The Rookie Graveyard

hudson was one of the last picks in the draft. those other guys were almost all lottery picks. the reason they are proving themselves is because they are better. if hudson was going to be good enough to merit playing time right now, doc would have seen it in practice already. clearly doc and danny think that he is better served sharpening his skills in the d-league, where he can get quality reps. i know doc prefers vets, but he also showed a good amount of faith giving playing time to rondo and perkins earlier in their careers. i trust his (and danny’s) evaluation of the talent we have on the team.

one more note: they needed to do this to give more playing time for TA (especially when quisy comes back) and raise his trade value a bit, since it was obvious that no GM wanted to touch him with a 30-foot pole this offseason despite his expiring contract.

our best perimeter defender and the reason hes with us is because he still has potential he was putting up 20pts a game before he got injured .. i believe in tony he has great potential he can score and defend really good.. and i wouldnt say this is necessarally a rookie graveyard same as the vets if doc got rookies with great talent and the right mindset he can mold em look what he did with tmac and also big baby who was a second rounder. i mean these are guys being drafted second round not all of em are going to be terrific nba players .. not every player will be a steal that doc and danny draft especially that late but they do have a good eye for talent .. i think lester hudson will be a solid scorer not a pg but a sg running off screens driving to the basket the d-league is just to get him some playtime.. but the future looks bright giddens and walker i think are special players

Think about this, a players playing career is short. If you can play and the coach does not play you. That cost’s you millions now and in the future. That’s a great financial situation for the team but bad for the player.

We have absolutely no idea how good the young guy’s are because Doc refuses to play them. Doc has never played a rookie on the strength of the rookie’s game. If someone is hurt and he has no choice them and only them will he play the rookie or young player. Eddie House is useless if he’s not shooting 3’s. He’s not a pg, he can’t dribble, no D. He can shoot the hell out of 3’s but that’s it.

Hudson I think is 6’3" fast, strong and he was second in the nation in scoring in college. But he can’t hit the floor

why do you consitently compare lester hudson, a 24 yr old 56th pick in the draft, playing on a team full of veteran competing for a title, to lottery picks/ mid first rounders playing on worse teams?
its ridicoulous
Lester hudson isnt brandon jennings or Tyreke Evans, or even DeRozan for that matter.

If he could play and proved himself in practive, im sure he would get the minutes, as did an out of shape 2nd rounder in Glen davis his rookie year

I’m a Hudson advocate too, but Hudson did all that against lower competition. That doesn’t mean he stinks, but that’s how it was. The NBA level is ten thousand times more different than the level Hudson played at in college, and right now it very well may be starting to show. Why do you and the OP keep exclaiming that Doc doesn’t want to play rookies when you can’t prove that they’re just enough in practice? Giddens isn’t even a rookie anymore and he still can’t get minutes AND the Celtics haven’t picked up his option. That’s Doc’s fault? And Gabe Pruitt? As far as I’m concerned, the validity of this topic ended when you didn’t mention him, cause you’re now ignoring facts and putting your spin and ONLY your spin. People thought he could backup Rondo too, but he couldn’t even make the KNICKS. He’s on the Lakers D-League team now for crying out loud! Did Doc mess him up too?!
 Also, we haven’t even played half the season yet, and there’s still a chance for Hudson if Doc feels he only needs to be in D-league for a couple of games before coming back. Hudson didn’t even have to join Walker immediately when he went, and now his stay with the Red Claws won’t even that long, so it’s not like Doc’s just ignoring him.

…a few points and questions:
1) How do you know? You have inside info? No, you’re assuming he hasn’t done well, because, you think, otherwise Doc would play him. That’s my whole point. That this is Doc’s big flaw. Doc is psychologically blocked from playing rookies when his vets are healthy (except in garbage time of course).
2) Every report I’ve read about Hudson in practice has been positive. He works hard, listens well, works a lot with Rondo who said he’s very tough on him on D, KG has said he’s very good, even Doc has said a good word or two.
3) In the little time he has had on the court, he has run the point very well. A whole lot better than House/TA, that’s for sure.
4) As for Giddens and Pruitt… I don’t get that connection at all. Pruitt was bad, and JR is borderline-to-bad. We’ve SEEN their games. Lester’s game looks like it could be great from what we’ve seen… he lacks just one thing: Playing Time.
5) This reputation as the rookie graveyard of the NBA may come back to hurt the team in the future. When the vets are gone, Doc will have no choice, but by then no one will want to come here and for good reason. But… maybe that part of it doesn’t matter, because Doc won’t be here either by then. And that will be a good thing, because while Doc is excellent for the team we have now, he will absolutely SUCK at building a team from the bottom up.

that’s for sure……I would like to see a trade maybe Randoplh and Morrow from GS for House and the big red head and also T. Allen….

You don’t get the connection between Giddens and Pruitt? People said the same thing about them; Doc didn’t play them enough, and when Pruitt was released, some people wanted him to stay and assumed he’d do well with another team and we’d wonder what Doc didn’t like about him. Well, that went well for Pruitt. Hey, at least you said you knew he was bad, so I’ll give you credit for that. I’m willing to wait and see if Giddens does well on another team, assuming he’s released. But right now, here’s all we have; Pruitt being cut by the Knicks. You don’t have anything else to prove your point and you know it. Also, maybe I’m just being naive, but don’t you also think one of Doc’s assistants are also evaluating Hudson and the other young players to see if they’re good enough to contribute? Why are we just assuming it’s Doc, Doc, and just Doc?

 So on that note, of course I can assume Doc (and friends) hasn’t seen enough in his eyes to play Hudson at PG YET, and that’s the key; Hudson as a PG. Doc may feel that Hudson isn’t ready just yet to run the 2nd unit, and I can buy that for the time being, because he is a SG first. You want to harp about his long range shooting, and I’m willing to too, but that comes with recognizing he was a SG in college.

On top of that…didn’t I just say Doc is only putting Hudson in the D-League for a couple of games, since he can’t find time on the Celtics, and then will bring Hudson back to the Celtics again?! I don’t know why you’re trying to imply that Doc is burying Hudson before 30 games into the season when let me repeat a) Doc didn’t send Hudson to the D-League with Walker when he could’ve, and b) Doc is only sending Hudson to the D-league for playing time, and then will bring him back. He already said he’ll do that.

You also claim that no one will want to come here after the vets walk to the sunset. Now who’s assuming? Who has Doc shafted that other players will say “oh I’m a rookie so Doc hates me : (”? Powe? BBD? Rondo, Mr. All-Rookie Second Team Selection? Pruitt, who got cut by the Knicks? Giddens, who might face Pruitt’s fate for all we know (but we’ll see)? Walker, who just came out from injury and may still play for the Celtics this season? Who there supports your fifth point?

Your 2nd and 3rd points are supported by the fact, I repeat, that Doc will only have Hudson play for the Red Claws for a couple of games before going back to the Celtics. But oh no, Doc wants to hide Hudson away in some rookie graveyard, not give him playing time since he hasn’t gotten any lately.

Please…