Night And Day
by Jeff Clark on Dec 22, 2009 10:04 PM EST
in Boston Celtics Games
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PrintWell, everything that went wrong in the first half went right in the second half. Amazing.
- Earl Watson: scoreless in the 2nd half. (after 18 in the first)
- Pierce put up 19 points in the 2nd half (after only 2 in the first)
- Perkins added 13 of his own in the 2nd to finish with 19.
- Ray gets the game ball though. He was all over the court with great energy and some sweet 2nd half shooting.
- The energy level on defense went up 3 notches which keyed the turnaround.
- I like the way Paul kept on playing through his shooting slump. Showed leadership.
- Scal provided some good energy off the bench tonight.
- Wow, 24 points and 18 rebounds for Murphy tonight. Is it just me, or does he kill us every time?
- I don't know what Doc said at halftime, but it appears to have worked.
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Pierce was pretty active only on defense in the first half
but didn’t get his offense going until the second half – but boy, did he own the game in those last few minutes.
Rondo was 5 for 6 from the line – is it time to stop picking on his free throws?
agreed
Loved the way Paul played despite missing so many shots.
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
And yeah, Ray definitely was the player of the game
He was the most consistent performer, especially on offense. Shot the lights out tonight – 9/14 from field and 9/9 from the line.
’Sheed was very, very effective in the post on defense tonight – but looks like he hurt his shoulder. I missed a chunk of minutes of the game – was there a particular play that he hurt it on?
Odd Game
I’ll second that. But a win is a win, especially without KG.
Orlando will be a test.
Scal?
I guess I keep missing all of the good stuff Scal is doing on the court.
I was impressed with the defensive effort in the second half
especially, as Brick points out, because KG wasn’t there.
Great?
Scal played 22 minutes, was 0-5 from the field, had a total of 2 points and 3 rebounds. And the man he was guarding had a huge night. Again, I don’t get it. The guy, plain and simple, is awful.
easy now
I thought Scal had a lot of hustle and played mostly smart ball
he’s limited for sure, but he wasn’t terrible in my opinion
people’s opinions will differ though, and that’s ok
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
yep - that's a pretty concise and accurate way to put it
Doc’s opinion obviously being the most important.
Okay 'great' is probably not the right word
he was ‘great’ at providing what is expected of him.
He played within the team defense, assisting with switches and, in the minutes I saw, made his man move the ball laterally or shoot from range – which is what Doc wants. ’Not much to do if they make tough shots.
Late in the 3rd – early in the 4th he got a key rebound, was fouled, made his shots, and helped contribute to two defensive stops that helped the C’s push out to a lead finally.
I'm with you. Zero production from Scal and he switched late defensively
on the other team’s big white guy jump shooter.
Most of Troy Murphy's first half points
Came before Scal entered the game.
He was shut down for a long time other than a couple of free throws through the 2nd period and well into the second half until he did get a jump shot and a 3 pt shot with under 7 to go in the 4th. I can’t tell from the play-by-play log if Scal was still in the game for the jumper but Perkins was on him when he made the 3 because I remember that one.
Folks need to stop for sec and look for what Doc sees in the guys that causes him to put them out on the floor.
I see why doc put him there.
He can hit long range jump shot and he hustles on defense. But that doesn’t mean he’s doing it tonight. One more 22 min performance like this from anyone will get a L from the magic.
Might be a little harsh on him:P.
just want to praise the guy when he actually have some production.
your post implied Scal was to blame for Murphy's big night
but the game logs don’t correlate with that.
On a team where he is probably the 5th shooting option and his defensive responsibilities are on the edge of the paint, there is no way Scal will ever put up a lot of points OR rebounds no matter how well he does his job. So, just how do you plan to measure his ‘production’?
I would measure it by how he did at guiding his man to the left or right on a defensive sequence so the play went into the help side, or how he helped to box folks out of the paint or set a pick on an offensive possession. You NEED guys who do that on the floor so that the other guys can get the blocks or rebounds or score points. And you need them to play smart and not make stupid mistakes. That’s his role. None of that stuff shows up in the stats as ‘production’.
I’m not going to get into a ‘Scal is awesome – vote Scal for the All Star Game!!’ debate. He’s not that. But he, like everyone on this team that gets minutes, is contributing to why this team is one of the elite teams in the NBA. Unless folks think they really know more than Doc and his coaches, they are going to have to just reach down inside and admit that maybe, they need to open their eyes to try to see what the coaches are seeing.
what if some one complain about Pierce's bad night?
It’s that mean he doesn’t see what the coaches see in him? Again?
With Garnett out Doc had no one else to guard Murphy
otherwise why would any sane person play Scalabrine? We’ll see how “valuable” he is when his contract expires. He’ll be lucky to suit up for a D-League team.
by lemonade sky on Dec 23, 2009 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t know what you or Doc were seeing in him last night but I wasn’t seeing much that was positive.
His man was all over the offensive boards. Even when Scal was trying to box out his man, his man would just go over him to get the rebound or deflect it.
His defense was lackluster. He isn’t the one that changed the energy of the game. It was the bench players that came in after him, House and TA, that started changing the energy level.
I’m sure Doc used him instead of Williams to guard Indy’s more perimeter-oriented big men but he just wasn’t getting enough done out there from what I was seeing.
one memory lapse
I did forget that Scal did do a good job trying to draw that charge that the refs completely ignored. That was a very good play on his part that the refs inexcusably ignored.
The Refs...
Can they call the game with some consistency?! Perk was being targeted. That scal no call was ridiculous…
Good to see Pierce yet again grind his way into the game.
forgot about that
that no call on the offensive foul Scal should have drawn was just horrible. In full view of the refs. no excuse not to call that. It’s not like Scal flopped—-Watson drove right into him.
lousy game by the refs. can’t believe the hacking Indy got away with. Not saying the C’s didn’t get away with some stuff to but the more blatant missed calls were in Indy’s favor.
it was the best of times and the worst of times in reverse. even tho pp couldn’t throw a rock in the water in the 1st half it wasn’t for a lack of effort and you just knew he was going to come through. i was even glad perk got the t because he wasn’t taking any guff from anyone. he is a beast.even tho the c’s prbably are at or near the top at getting t’s- some of it i blame on doc. do you ever notice how much he carps at the refs? it’s constant and i think sometimes the refs take it out on the players, especially the beast. i know doc says to the players- " let me work the refs-you play the game. " i think he is a pest to them and it rubs off on some of the calls. just my 2 cents.
actually Doc seems about average for carping on refs
most every NBA coach does it. Working the refs is part of the game.
Though it would be interesting to know how Doc ranks
among coaches for drawing Ts.
Is it possible that the refs as a group have it in for the Cs?
Yes it is. Blame it on Rasheed Wallace. After Sheed yelled at and threatened one of their own, I wouldn’t be surprised if Bill Kennedy made a few phone calls to his fellow criminally incompetent fools refs. We need to get past this nonsense. Hopefully it’ll die down in a week or two.
Wow - "the refs hate the Celts" - when the ft margin was the difference
After watching the C’s get call after call in the 2nd half, I was thinking, " well, the fans won’t be crying about the officiating THIS TIME…"
I’m not sure what game you were watching, but here are the facts -
Start of 3rd quarter, score 57-42.
Celtics fts:15
Pacers fts: 6
End of 3rd quarter, game tied 77-77
4th, Celtics fts: 11
Pacers fts: TWO
26-8 FTS IN THE 2ND HALF, and there’s complaining?
Celts would have had to shoot 31% from the ft line in the 2nd half to lose this game!
by nba is the worst on Dec 23, 2009 8:06 AM EST up reply actions
I didn't have a particular problem with the refs
other than the missed charge call when Scal got run over.
But the ft ratio in this case were reflective of how each team was trying to score. The C’s repeatedly drove into the paint, while the Pacers shot from the perimeter. You don’t draw fouls from the outside.
It isn’t indicative by itself of whether there was bias either way on the part of the refs.
I’m beginning to think that NBA refs just hate fans and purposely act inconsistent as all hell, regardless of the teams in order to drive us into a frenzy …
Points in the paint - Pacers 28, Celts 26 - doesn't support your assessment !
Some homer view is to be expected – but over 3X as many fts in the 2nd half unequivocably favored the Celtics – and yet some of the fans here STILL complain.
Funny!
by nba is the worst on Dec 23, 2009 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
points in the paint doesn't include
points scored off free throws from fouls earned by driving the paint. If the shot is not made, it doesn’t show up there.
I agree that some folks can’t resist the homer view that the refs are always screwing us. I think that in general, the refs screw the visiting team in every arena – but not always. Mostly I think that a certain few of the refs are borderline incompetent or of questionable integrity, period, regardless of the teams.
FT difference
was due to how each team tried to score. C’s drove to basket, Indy shot jumpers.
To be completely fair, on those occasions when Indy did go to the basket, they got foul calls OR in Earl Watson’s case, a key non-call for a charge or in Luther Head’s case, a key non-call for traveling
Indy got away with a lot of hand swipes throughout the game, particularly on drives by the C’s and on rebounds. I’m not saying the C’s didn’t benefit from some non-calls too but not to the same extent.
by slamtheking on Dec 23, 2009 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
Double your pleasure
Celtics win, Lakers lose! Savor these moments. They are sweet, sweet, sweet!
a little premature
I saw the score on sportscenter and thought the game was over. apologies.
by KY Celts fan on Dec 23, 2009 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
lakers win tonight
another 40 point game for kobe,, and a mild scare when he fell to the floor and hyper extended his left knee… but just walked it off and took a deep sigh of relief
the guy has to be made of rubber
he breaks, jams, hyperextends, etc. every bone in his body, and still continues to score. he has to have like Wolverine healing power or something. it’s infuriating.
by KY Celts fan on Dec 23, 2009 1:32 AM EST up reply actions
maybe he exagurates his injuries
to make himself look tougher..
Unfortunately, he's really is injured (almost certainly)
That knee buckle was serious. Very. (I just put up a fanpost about this.)
But please PLEASE do not gloat over this… do you really want to fight the Lakers without Kobe? I don’t. If he is ok… I’m glad.
stop posting bs stuff..
it was just a hyper extended knee.. happens all the time
a little of subject
I hear guys on tv sayin it ,I hear LA fans sayin it ,I hear it but guess what it is not true not even close.So this is what’s been sayed over and over we are too old and not deep and have a hard time against young athletic teams, and the lakers are the deepest biggest team in the nba , well someone needs to do their homework….Age? Practically no difference in age we are practically even but we’ve been tagged with old legs because of one injury to KG…I will not deny that we are veterans who have logged a lot of minutes but no more than the lakers core…Size bynum 7 ft ,gasol 7ft , odom 6’10 …ok perk 6’10 kg 6’11 sheed 6’11 other bigs powell 6’9 baby 6’9 walton 6’8 williams 6’9 do the math…..depth bench position for position we both use an 11 man rotation and are more productive at every step goin down the bench sheed better avg than odom marquis better avg than brown baby better than powell sheldon better than walton house better than vujacic so on and so on check the stats…and yes young athletic teams that are good are tough but atlanta is for real the same way portland is to LA chicago was one of the best teams in the nba last year after makin moves to aquire salmons and millerin the second half ,in the same way houston took LA seven without yao. So I guess we are just held to a different level .But I’ll say this you can keep tellin yourselves those lies its cool but one thing for sure and two things for certain My celtics never give up never quit never just put they heads down .Lakers are almost famous for it you gave up and didn’t even bother to play the pistons in the finals ,and gave up a 30 point lead to us in the finals then in game six put your tail between your legs and sat down I personally would have ceased being a celtic fan if I witnessed that from my squad.*nd for the record I am not a laker hater I love the game I truely like some players on LA but the truth is the truth and ya’ll been livin a lie…
by reggie_35 on Dec 23, 2009 1:50 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Ah Reggie...
KG is 6’ 13", not 6’11". Take a look when KG is standing next to a 7 footer.
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