Paul Pierce Sidelined with Knee Problem
by Greg Payne on Dec 23, 2009 3:49 PM EST
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PrintCSNNE.com just broke the following news:
Paul Pierce will miss the Celtics' upcoming four-game road trip, and may be sidelined for as many as two weeks, because of a knee problem that required a medical procedure on Wednesday.
Team owner Wyc Grousbeck said Pierce began feeling discomfort in the knee after Tuesday night's victory over Indiana. He described the problem as an infection that required drainage, but said he wouldn't describe the procedure as surgery.
The Celtics.com twitter adds:
Paul Pierce underwent arthroscopic irrigation on right knee to clean an infection at NEBH today; he's expected to miss next 2 weeks.
Clearly this is terrible news for the team, especially in the wake of Kevin Garnett's thigh bruise, no matter how minor that injury might be. This obviously makes the upcoming four-game road swing much more difficult, but it will test the mettle of this group. Let's see how they respond to this adversity.
So who can explain in layman's terms what arthroscopic irrigation means?
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Ouch!
Not cool. Let’s hope Wyc is more forthcoming with Paul’s injury than when he was with KG’s…
by GroverTheClover on Dec 23, 2009 3:55 PM EST reply actions
Hey birdbrain
Where is that quote about nonbelievers come from?
by Warrior Spirit on Dec 23, 2009 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
BBD the man, the myth, the legend.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
and what is this non-belief that BBD (we retired that after the Magic-beating bucket, didn't we?) is so schooled in that he's advising the rest of us about it's efficacy? (look it up)
He should study the effects of “belief” as a generator of positive energy, especially as a member of a title-hunting team…
You seem to be taking the comment very seriously
but, FYI the quote is from around the time he made the game winner. I just tend to believe in the concept and thought it was a good quote. His efficiency numbers are quite good under my criteria so everything is all good in my book.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
sheesh...
what else can go wrong? how ironic that the elder of the big three is in prime condition. knock on wood thanks Ray for being the professional athlete that you are. Now take the reigns just like Jesus Shuttlesworth would! I can’t wait to see how RR and Perk compensate for this.
"I was like a kid in a candy store running around with his head cut off ,,,," 0_o
by CaliforniaGreen on Dec 23, 2009 3:55 PM EST reply actions
oh noooooooo
the doom has never left the Celtics
in some sense one could just sense it!
by friedgreentomatoes on Dec 23, 2009 3:57 PM EST reply actions
Awesome
Now we know why Walker was called up, i assume TA will start, and we will see alot of Scal at Sf, thats wonderful.
Matty you will be pumped!
TA for the start!!!
When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"
Indeed
TA has always played his best when starting, just stay with Vince/Pietrus and continue taking care of the ball. Only 1 TO in his last 4 games, need that trend to continue because this is a tough trip.
not a chance...those 2 are going to abuse tony and scal...and who scores besides
Ray?
by celticinorlando on Dec 23, 2009 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
Its going to be Rondo and KG (if healthy)
otherwise, we are in big trouble for this game.
and obviously sarcastic
relax
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
by Jeff Clark on Dec 23, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
kind of hard to sense that....
"I was like a kid in a candy store running around with his head cut off ,,,," 0_o
by CaliforniaGreen on Dec 23, 2009 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
Really?
Get rid of Paul Pierce “the stiff” and bring in Bill Walker the star??
sarcasm does not translate well to the digital realm
“this stiff” maybe as in the older guy…..
"I was like a kid in a candy store running around with his head cut off ,,,," 0_o
by CaliforniaGreen on Dec 23, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
it was obviously sarcastic… I know sarcasm doesn’t transfer well but there’s no way that i could possibly be serious.
by jesse_stoneham on Dec 23, 2009 6:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Terrible seems a bit overboard
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
here is your definition
Arthroscopy involves direct visualization of the joint by a videofiberoptic device. therefore……………..Arthroscopic lavage (another word for irrigation) is often recommended when medical therapy fails to reduce osteoarthritic knee pain and improve functioning. Lavage entails either large or small volume saline irrigation of the knee.
more detail?
Is it Soup Yet?
you generally see this done on infections for those who have had arthroplasty
(knee replacement) because the new knee develops an infection – not sure why PP would have an infection but he did have an infection in his elbow as well as I recall
Is it Soup Yet?
lavage means "to wash" based on a french verb
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM51H6VPfq4
a link to a video of a knee being drained
“Lavage” means ‘washing’. To lavage a joint means to wash out any blood, fluid or loose debris from inside the joint space.
Arthroscopic lavage is generally combined with arthroscopic debridement, where fronds of joint material or degenerative tissue are removed using a combination of injected fluid and a small vacuum, i.e. both washing (rinsing) and sucking. ‘Arthroscopic’ means that this is done using a tiny incision at the joint, where a thin arthroscope is pushed into the joint to inspect the structures.
Excessive growth of irritated synovial membrane causes it to increase its surface area by buckling into fronds, and the fronds may become inflamed and pour destructive enzymes into the joint space, causing joint swelling and joint surface destruction. Removing this excess material via lavage frequently resolves arthritic knee inflammation or pain.
Arthroscopic lavage is a minor part of an armamentarium of procedures which are now available to help reverse the damage of early arthritis. There is, however, controversy about the value of simple lavage and debridement for the older patient with established osteoarthritis.
Please note
…that the press reports include mention of an “infection”, and antibiotics.
not sure but.....
arthroscopic irrigation sounds like minor surgery to me. anything with the word arthroscopic in it does not sound good. hope he makes it back in time to get in shape for the playoffs, cuz if celts and lakers make it to the finals together, i want nobody to be injured. that would be the best finals in a long time. the last two champs going at it for 7 games.
no w/ this terrible injury it looks like orlando I'm sorry to say.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
Don't hit the pnic button
We still have a competent team fellas, this does not mean us not getting to the playoffs, it just means we are going to fight harder to win
this is where ubuntu comes in to play
by Warrior Spirit on Dec 23, 2009 4:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This is very weird
Arthroscopic irrigation is what it sounds like… they use a scope to get into the joint and “irrigate” it… i.e., clean it out with fluid washes. It’s typically used for SEPTIC joints… i.e., joint that are severely infected (since the joint is a closed space, antibiotics alone are often ineffective… it’s kind of like an abscess in that sense.)
Since they used the word “infection”… that adds up to: PP has an infected knee that required cleaning out. And he’s surely on major antibiotics now too.
This is all COMPLETELY out of left field. What the hell? WHY would Paul Pierce have an infected knee?? They don’t just get infected, like you get a sore throat. In healthy people, knees get infected only after surgical procedures. But Paul hasn’t had any surgical procedures to this knee… has he? I haven’t heard of any.
I do NOT understand this at all. But some conclusions can be drawn: (1) Something has been going on with PP that they haven’t told us about. (2) He has a SERIOUS problem in his knee. If he’s infected enough to require irrigation… it’s serious.
Amazing how they keep things from the whole world. Just like last year.
Btw… not worried about KG. A “bruised leg” is no big deal. (Unless they’re lying about that too….. ugh.)
Interesting how… it looks like neither Kobe nor Paul are going to play on Christmas. What else is coming, lurking around the corner?
I do expect it... but it's overshadowed now
…by this thing with Paul. Which is much weirder and more mysterious. This is not the whole story… too many missing parts.
He's fine
He played the rest of the game and didn’t show any loss of movement. I don’t think a broken leg would keep Kobe from playing a Christmas game against the Cavs.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
he's had knee issues for years
this isn’t out of left field at all
it is surprising that he needed surgery all of a sudden, but the fact that it is the knee is no surprise at all to me
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
to be honest his lift
the past few games has been pretty weak for paul even and I was going to post something about him being hurt but, I didn’t want to be that guy.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
But you don't get a knee infection
…because of long-standing knee problems. You get it if you’ve had a procedure recently to that knee. What procedure? He must have had something done… whatever it was, it means he has had ongoing knee problems requiring medical attention, all this time.
Interesting… he was talking recently, in his blog, about how he will be remembered, about what happens when he retires. I wondered then why he did that… I think this is part of it. Things have been going on with his health…. about which we are only now finding out.
I thought
he was getting it drained as recently as before the season, but I could be misremembering things
and of course I know less about medicine than Doc Rivers, so I’ll slide off to the side and let the grownups talk now
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
A recent drainage procedure would do it
If he had one recently, that could cause the knee get infected. That is about the BEST complete story this could be. It would mean that he has some ongoing arthritic issues that require knee drainage from time to time, and that one of those times caused the knee to get infected. About as benign as this story can possibly get. Let’s hope that’s the case.
by DRJ1 on Dec 23, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
they said 2 weeks
I’m hoping that is the case
I’ve also got just a little bit of doubt (see this morning’s post)
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
not a chance he allows james to take the entire stage...kobe will play
by celticinorlando on Dec 23, 2009 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
Not if
he has a torn MCL, or worse. Not even Kobe. We’ll see. He’s probably getting his MRI right now.
Not sure what you're asking
About the MRI? No WAY is he not going to have an MRI… I can guarantee that. About the torn MCL? That’s what the video looked like… and one of the reasons they need an MRI. It will all get clearer very soon. Tomorrow, probably.
Meanwhile… we’ve got our own troubles, don’t we.
Do you know
that he hurt his knee in the Thunder game last night? Here’s a post all about it: http://www.celticsblog.com/2009/12/23/1213702/kobe-strains-knee-theyll-say-hes
And here’s the video…. see ~0:50: http://espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=291222013
i knew..but it is treating as being minor...
by celticinorlando on Dec 23, 2009 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
What torn MCL?
It was a mild hyperextension, at best. You aren’t able to apply any pressure whatsoever on the knee if he tore his MCL. He played the rest of the game and attacked the basket with authority just to ensure that he was fine.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Actually...
…you can finish a game with a Grade I, or even a Grade II MCL tear. (Leon Powe played several minutes after tearing his ACL, which eventually required surgery from which he is still recovering.)
And that was not “mild hyperextension”. The amount of pain indicated something worse. Combined with the image of the knee as it hit its worst angle, it looked like the MCL had to be damaged, at minimum.
But we will know by Christmas for sure. If he plays, he must be ok. If not, not. They’re not going to let him fool around with his knee… and I don’t think he would want to.
it swelled up
indicating a build-up of fluid, in addition to inflammation – both indicative of an infection.
Inside a joint, antibiotics are less effective. Hence the arthro procedure to drain it.
Its not an extreme procedure and he indeed should be back in 2-4 weeks. Assuming they didn’t do anything structural while in there (such as scraping cartilege, repairing torn tendons, etc.) then he shouldn’t require casting so the recovery should be quick.
Look for any evidence that they have him in a cast or traction as clues that they did more before panicking.
I had an infection in my knee
when I was 20 and it spread throughout my legs and hips. It was much more serious than what paul has. I would not have been able to play with it. They drained fluid from knees and I recovered within a month. I did not get back to full strength with things like squatting and jumping for 3 to 4 months. So I think his time frame to %100 should be around 2 months but they’ll have to watch his minutes.
Hopefully shorter
…since his problem is not very severe, according to what has been reported anyway. But of course we don’t know how much of what they’ve reported is true, nor how much they’re hiding. Just like last year.
like I said above
Your clue that there might be something more serious will be whether they have the leg imobilized (traction and/or a cast) which would be required if anything structural was done (tendons, ligaments, cartilege, etc.). If you don’t see one, then you probably can assume it was exactly as they say and it should be fine in 2-4 weeks.
If he’s in a cast for a week, though …
Tony
He’s playing for his next big contract, if he goest off during that period of time then he could command a huge pay day.
I am predicting he goes off to the tune of what he did that week before he got hurt.
Even though it is Kobe who lands awkwardly on his knee....
…only KG & PP will be sitting out several games?!?!
There are no two ways about it....
The Celtics are CURSED!
bite your tongue
"I was like a kid in a candy store running around with his head cut off ,,,," 0_o
by CaliforniaGreen on Dec 23, 2009 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
How else does one explain...
Bias…Lewis…draft lotteries of `97 & `07…KG`s knee last year???
{there were several other misfortunes as well}
What about that whole
landing Paul miraculously at 10, trading for KG and Ray and winning a championship. I agree we’ve had a lot of bad stuff over the years, but cursed teams don’t have that kind of positive fortune as well.
www.greentownsfinest.com
by Prof. Clutch on Dec 23, 2009 7:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
yep...wish they would have added 1 more legit wing instead of thinking giddens, tony
or walker could fill that roll…..we have not legit SF right now….pathetic
by celticinorlando on Dec 23, 2009 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
true, but I'll take a healthy KG and Ray with supporting cast...
Missing PP will be tough, but if Kg can play full strength, we should do okay on this next trip, then hopefully we’ll hold down the fort til the truth is back…
go get Gomes
please?
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
by Jeff Clark on Dec 23, 2009 4:58 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
walker and scal for gomes???
sign me up
"I was like a kid in a candy store running around with his head cut off ,,,," 0_o
by CaliforniaGreen on Dec 23, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
I'm glad everything so far at least seems to be minor.
I mean, it is a creaky old and/or oft-injured group they send out there. Maybe they’ll all get it out of their systems and healthy for the spring.
Gary Washburn reports/tweets:
Celtics owner Grousbeck said team will not pursue player to replace Pierce. “We’ve got a full roster. We’re not going to cut anybody.”
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
That's a good sign
that they are confident in the recovery of both Pierce and Daniels is probably going to go as expected.
That’s the shallowest role on the team (slashing SF who can drive the lane). Behind those guys, you are looking at TA and Sky Walker. If they really thought Pierce was more seriously injured, they would definitely have to go get someone.
They might be able to sneak by if Daniels was out for more than they think, but not Pierce.
You want TA in that starting line up
you need TA in that starting line up. God help us.. lol.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
BIG BABY
i heard the commentators yesterday on the game and they said that big baby will be back for the road trip which if its true is brilliant news!!!!I LOVE THE MAN,HES AMAZING!!!!!!
Yes clearly we have reserves coming back
just in the nick of time.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
he might go...but Doc said he doubts he gets off the bench and plays
by celticinorlando on Dec 23, 2009 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, and BBD isn't exactly a replacement for PP
BBD is a fine player, but his skills are totally different than PP and a big part of this offense is designed to have KG/Sheed/(& BBD) open the lane by drawing defenders out of the paint and the slashers then attack it. With both PP and Daniels out, that leaves us with just Rondo, TA and Walker as our main ‘slashers’. Ray does some of that, but usually works the perimeter and along the baseline.
But it will definitely be a good thing to get BBD back! He helps in many other ways.
so no PP, no Baby, no Daniels and a gimpy KG....
how again are we going to beat Orlando???
by celticinorlando on Dec 23, 2009 5:13 PM EST reply actions
just no way to match up with Orlando without pierce....they have no
replacement for PP…Tony? Walker? Giddens? Scal? those 4 guys offer ZERO…injuries are really starting to hurt this team…..
by celticinorlando on Dec 23, 2009 5:16 PM EST reply actions
Is this the same knee
that he hurt in Game 1 of the Finals? Seems like he’s been tweeking that same knee from time to time since last year.
by Las Vegas Asian on Dec 23, 2009 5:16 PM EST reply actions
none of this matters
None of us can prove anything until May….
"Memphis then used a pick-and-roll to get Conley free and he drove past Shaquille O'Neal for the go-ahead layup."
if boston thinks they can win right now without baby, PP, Daniels and with
TA and Scal getting heavy minutes…they they are nuts…they need to make a move…they don’t have enough and when they lose 3 out of 4 next games…maybe danny sees that
by celticinorlando on Dec 23, 2009 5:32 PM EST reply actions
losing 3 out of the next 4 games
won’t be a reason to panic and make a move. They should still beat enough junk teams even with a depleted lineup to make the playoffs.
If Pierce and Daniels have setbacks that indicate that they won’t be back in a timely fashion so as to put making a big run IN the playoffs at risk – and I include if they look like they would really fall in the seeding so they never get home court as something they would want to prevent – then they would probably have to make a move.
Terrible news
im getting flashbacks to last year
something is telling me things will start to get ugly from here on out, hope im wrong
i have to agree with you...Starting Friday...it is going to get ugly
by celticinorlando on Dec 23, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
this could turn into a real motivator for the c’s. pierce has been quiet the past couple of games anyway. so we’ll probably see some real good team bball in the next couple of games!
quiet the past couple of games ???
Did you miss the Pacer’s game?
How to Cope
Well, TA’s minutes will obviously go up whether or not he starts. And I’d like to see KG play some SF with Sheldon Williams at the 4— certainly that’s what I would do against Rashard Lewis.
To give a big chunk of Paul’s minutes to Scalabrine would not be a good thing. They’ve called Bill Walker up, and it makes no sense to do that if Walker isn’t allowed to play.
walker wont get off the bench unless there is heavy foul trouble..
by celticinorlando on Dec 23, 2009 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
You're Probably Right
But that doesn’t make it the right thing to do.
No worries, for now
I don’t care if we don’t have the NBA’s best record. We don’t need HCA. What we need, more than anything, is to be HEALTHY IN JUNE. That’s all. HCA is meaningless in comparison to that overriding imperative.
This thing with Paul is just a small taste of how important health is to the season’s outcome. I’m thinking of it as a warning… do NOT abuse your vets in order to get the nearly-meaningless HCA. Rest them, protect them, get them healthy… and stay healthy once June rolls around.
Why would they panic when these are minor injuries?
If the C’s are telling the truth (and of course that is always in question), these are minor injuries and don’t require blowing up the team. The biggest issue I see is that Scalabrine is going to get a lot of playing time on this trip and that makes me very unhappy. Garnett is playing Friday and I fully expect Tony Allen to continue to play very good basketball.
An infected knee is not minor
Pretty serious. A few decades ago, before arthroscopes, he would be out for many weeks, because he would need open knee surgery. It’ll probably turn out ok, but not certainly. Meanwhile, PP is out for 2-3 weeks… also not minor.
But you’re right… no need to panic.
Where did you read 2-3 weeks?
What I have seen is four games right now and maybe two weeks. I see your name is DRJ1, but are you a medical doctor? I am going to give the Celts one more chance with the injuries and believe them again (as we all did last year with KG and were wrong). If they lie again, all credibility it lost.
See the main post
“Paul Pierce will miss the Celtics’ upcoming four-game road trip, and may be sidelined for as many as two weeks, because of a knee problem that required a medical procedure on Wednesday.”
He’ll be on big-time antibiotics for that long. Plus the healing from the procedure. So, assuming he get over the infection easily… yes, 2 weeks is about right. At best.
It says FOR AS MANY AS TWO WEEKS
Just wondering how that translates to 2-3 weeks.
For a 'normal' person, 2-4 weeks would be about right
to recover fully from a knee drainage procedure (assuming no structural repairs were done).
For an NBA caliber athlete, with primo-med care, nutrition and rehab – he’ll probably be at full strength in less time – call it 1-3 weeks. And there are motivations to start playing before being 100%.
So, Pierce coming back to play within 1-2 weeks is probably not an unreasonable estimate.
But you never can tell – there are a lot of variables. If I see a cast on him for more than a day, I’d be very worried.
Forgot to mention
Next time I have any kind of inury, I am going to come to this board for medical advice - :-)
lol thanks
Don’t worry the C’s will lie and say you’ll be back in a few days for no apparent reason…
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
Neither Bill Walker nor JR Giddens
has done anything to deserve to start in Pierce’s absence. However, I must admit I would prefer either of them over Scalabrine as the backup to TA. My guess is unless he screws up, TA will get 35-40 minutes a game on this trip.
Not Likely
I don’t think TA is capable of playing 35-40 minutes at this point, whether he screws up or not. Rivers should increase his minutes slowly. Put TA in a position to succeed, not in a position to fail.
In fact, I can make a strong argument that Bill Walker ought to start, not TA. You are sometimes better off bringing the more experienced player off the bench.
I agree - Walker starting could work!
Dominating in the D-league means at least competitive in the big league – and pt means experience (which adds value) whether he remains a Celtic or not. This opportunity , forced as it is, should be used for Walker to get real minutes and acclimated – even though starting him is unlikely…
by nba is the worst on Dec 24, 2009 8:10 AM EST up reply actions
Personally, I like that idea.
Walker has been starting in the D league and so that fits the ‘tempo’ and minutes both He and TA have been playing in recent weeks.
Plus physically, I like Walker’s strength – that makes his game a closer clone to Pierce. Tony is fast as all hell, but having both him and Rondo on the floor as starters is a little scary to me – will they out run the rest of the offense in the half-court? Could make for some exciting fast breaks, but the regular offense needs timing and power as well as speed.
Sigh …
This would be a good time for Ray to have one of his 34 pt games, hitting bomb after bomb.
What Concerns Me
… is not this particular procedure. What concerns me is that Pierce had his knee scoped in the offseason (most likely) and it hasn’t healed properly. Maybe he tried to come back too soon.
Are these issues going to be chronic, or will a procedure to irrigate the infection and kill it with antibiotics put an end to the problem? I note in passing that Tom Brady had a similar problem (infection) after his knee surgery.
This infection is secondary
…to some other procedure he recently had. Probably some kind of drainage. Which would mean he has a problem of fluid accumulation in the knee, probably arthritis of some kind, and the last drainage procedure caused the infection. That’s about the best complete story I can think of. From there, the possibilities get worse. But the drainage-causing-infection explanation sounds right.
Seriously, are you a doctor?
If so, then it makes sense with all the medical information you are doling out here. If not, you ought to stop pretending you play a doctor on TV.
Lol
I know what I’m talking about… is about all the personal info I want to give out.
And you can look all this up online… it’s all out there, somewhere.
You act like you know what you are talking about
My guess is you don’t and you should stop making medical daignoses on a message board and pretending you are an expert. Or at least I would hope no one pays attention to your drivel.
It's your right
to think whatever you want to think.
What I think is that you should try looking some of these things up before drawing conclusions. But hey… it’s all good.
You also are probably dead wrong about Kobe too
Given that he did not even have any treatment on his knee today. The knee that you are already telling people is a torn or badly sprained MCL!
i have had a acl reconstruction and done a lot of reading about knee surgery and issues and this DRJ1 knows what he is talking about
Now this is ridiculous
Of course I have no details on Paul’s injury, or Kobe’s. It’s all speculation based on the available information. Enough now.
I would also ask that you respect my privacy.
DRJ1 I appreciate
you clarifying some things, no matter what or who you are. I checked up on what you were saying and you seem to be spot on.
www.greentownsfinest.com
by Prof. Clutch on Dec 23, 2009 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks Prof
Now… you must tell us, here for all the world to see. Are you a REAL professor?!? LOL
I would never
divulge that kind of information normally. But yes, I am the real Professor. And rather clutch at that. Haha.
Hey man, I don’t know why Vinnie was baiting you so much but you did a good job not falling for it.
www.greentownsfinest.com
by Prof. Clutch on Dec 23, 2009 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
He's using Wikipedia and you are checking with Wikipedia.
Of course it’s spot on. Even exact same words.
I concur with pretty much what DRJ1 has posted on this
though I am a little more reserved in suspecting there is more to it.
As I’ve said above, the tell-tale sign that will indicate there is more to worry is if Pierce is in a cast for an extended time, because that will indicate they want to immobilize it – which would only be necessary if they had to do something structural.
Until then, this is not a panic situation yet.
No, he's not.
Most of the things he said here is from the first couple paragraphs of Wikipedia’s “arthroscopic” page. It’s funny.
You are confusing your posters
…not that it matters one whit.
So who can explain in layman’s terms what arthroscopic irrigation means?
It means he got fluid drained from his knee.
big deal he'll be back in a couple of weeks
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
Does anybody think Big Baby can play SF when he returns?
He lost wait, he’s in much better shape… If Scal can do it I dont see why Davis can’t.
Follow me @jimmy_toscano
You really want him
Running through screens while trying to cover a three? Not happening.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
against the right lineup
sure. There are going to be times when he might make sense at the 3 because you want size or his particular offense.
But not in the normal set. He isn’t fast enough. Its that simple.
but if you really wan't size up front
it makes more sense to move KG to th 3, with Perk and Sheed in there at 5 & 4. So BBD only makes sense for this in a second or third team rotation.
Deep Breaths
Fellow OCD (Obsessive Celtic Disorder) fans, this is just a blip. As long as the team is learning, this will make them better in the long run. Happy Festivus LJ
P.S. Orlando Prediction: Rajon 18 pts 14 dimes 10 boards 1 block and a dunk on Howard (again).
Didn't have time to read four million posts...
so I apologize in advance if this has been said already. But this could be a blessing in disguise. Getting Paul healthy is priority number 1, but this is good for TA too if he gets to start because if he continues to play as well as he’s been playing lately it could be great for his confidence now and down the stretch.
P2 is the man.
No you didn't repeat
and I was thinking the same thing…about TA and Walker.
by Tom Halzack on Dec 24, 2009 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
Time to............
Let Tony Allen play to show case him to be able to trade him and his valuable expiring contract in February for a player of better talent.
Let Bill Walker play to see what the kid has finally and to get him some experience for the playoffs as he can be the wing defender we so need against teams with strong, athletic small forwards.
And let Lester play...
…because he could be the backup PG we need.
the truth hurt ..
it is going to be a tough stretch just when things looked really good to play the magic this happens if we start to slide and lose ground in the race for the top spot with the cavs and magic danny boy has to make the nocioni trade cause tony allen scal baby davis or giddens aint going to do squat this could get ugly in the next few weeks lets see what this team is made out of and we are going to see just how good doc rivers is as a coach..
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