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The Time is Now for Tony Allen

The ups and downs of Tony Allen's stint with the Celtics have been well chronicled and whether you love him or you hate him you cannot deny that he has received more opportunities with this team than practically any other Celtic this decade. Between the knee surgeries, the thumb surgery, the ankle surgery and the off-the-court incidents, the Celtics have had plenty of chances to give up on Tony, but they have yet to do so. 

Just when you think he's down for the count, he's somehow dragged back into the larger scheme of things, to the point where this team continues to acknowledge after every major injury that it will continue to count on Allen for significant production.

Well, one could argue Tony's lucky to still be on this team and despite everything that's happened since he's been drafted, he's about to receive his most important opportunity yet. With Paul Pierce sidelined for the next few weeks with that infected knee, Tony's minutes are bound to increase in some way, shape or form.

Doc Rivers has a few options in this case: He could start Tony at shooting guard and bump Ray Allen to small forward, he could start Tony at small forward, or he could start Scal at small forward and have Tony serve as Ray's primary backup. Those are just a few of the scenarios we might see over the next few weeks. But whatever ends up happening, Tony Allen needs to make the most of the minutes he is given - for himself and for this team.

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The jury is still out on Tony this season. Sure, he's put a nice string of games together since he's been back in the lineup, but because of his history we have not been able to proclaim he's officially reliable. Many of us are expecting to see the dark side of Tony's game rear its ugly head any day now. We've been seeing the Tony Allen we expected to see all along, but because of the inconsistencies he's known for and because of the migraines he's given us in the past, it's impossible to gauge where he's actually at right now. Is he actually capable of playing significant, productive minutes? Is he only playing well because his minutes have been somewhat limited? Is he finally in the right state of mind to consistently produce for this team? Does he need some sort of guarantee that the minutes will be there in order to play well?

It's impossible to tell. But with Pierce's injury comes Tony's best chance to prove something to pretty much everyone (his teammates, his coaches, the fans and himself). His minutes could potentially jump to around 20 per game, which is enough to be considered a mainstay in the rotation and is enough to tell whether a player is doing more harm or good for his team. With the increase in minutes stretching over at least a two week period, Tony can basically make or break his importance to the Celtics this season. If he can consistently produce over this stretch (and by produce I mean limit the turnovers, play solid defense and attack the hoop in a controlled manner), we might have to admit (and for some of us, it will be against our will) that he's finally a reliable player of sorts who demands a place in the every day rotation.

However, if his stints on the court are marred by inconsistencies and are defined by the sloppy play many of us have come to expect from him, then we'll know once and for all that he doesn't deserve a significant role with this team. If this stretch doesn't work out for him, maybe all he's good for is playing the limited minutes he was playing up until Tuesday night's game against Indiana. Maybe that's all he's reliable for. Which is fine...once Pierce gets back. After all, up to this point, Tony's always been better in small doses.

Two weeks of games should be enough of a time frame to come to come to a reliable conclusion about a guy like Tony. There's a rather simple line of thinking with it: If he's consistent and plays well then he can be considered reliable. If he's not consistent and screws up too much, then we'll know he can't be counted on. If Tony were a rookie, maybe two weeks wouldn't be enough time, but he's been in the league long enough now and he's been already been given enough chances, so two weeks of games should serve as an adequate barometer.

Tony will probably see extended time with the other four starters (assuming Garnett is back), which could actually be his biggest challenge. The starting five of Rondo, Allen, Pierce, Garnett and Perkins have the formula down pat. They work fluidly and know each other's games well enough to simply make it work. Tony Allen doesn't have that luxury. When Pierce missed time back in 2006-2007 with that stress reaction in his left foot, Tony stepped in and played admirably (he averaged 11.5 points in the 33 games he played in that season). But he was playing alongside guys like Al Jefferson and Gerald Green on a 24-win team. Tony's now stepping in for Pierce on a team that could win 60+ games and has championship aspirations. For some, that's a pretty scary thought.

If I were Tony, I'd have Eminem's "Lose Yourself" blaring in my headphones before every game over the next two weeks.

Some might want to argue that Bill Walker being recalled from the D-League means he'll find time in the rotation and I hope that's true. But I doubt he'll take the majority of the minutes away from Tony, only because since Tony's return, he's received the minutes and not Walker. If Walker was the guy for this scenario, he probably would have been playing in place of Tony weeks ago. However, if Tony's game doesn't live up to what it needs to be, then maybe Walker will earn an extended preview to show whether or not he can be relied on instead.

This opportunity will probably make or break Tony Allen for the season and for the future. With his contract being up at the end of the year, I would say that this is Tony's last significant opportunity with this team, but some way or another he seems to always be in the picture, whether we like it or not. So while I can't honestly say this is his last opportunity, this is certainly his finest one. Now it's up to him to decide what he wants to do with it.

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Is the key issue with TA and has been for some time now. We can’t forget he is not yet completely over his ankle woes, and so I do not see this as some sort of audition at all. Too many minutes too soon, and TA will be back on the shelf yet again. It will be Pierce’s replacement-by-committee while he is out, and Tony will only be a piece of the puzzle.

by KJ33 on Dec 24, 2009 3:00 PM EST reply actions  

Heard a story about TA

that on the eve of one his comebacks from an injury (the next day was big game) that he was totally drunk out on the town late…….this of course came well after his legal problems and “his posse” issue.

While I wish him well, if this story is true, then he has had plenty of chances to “deserve” to be in the NBA and playing for the Celtics. Either produce in an outstanding manner Mr Tony Allen, or I hope he hits the road and stays gone for good…..NO MORE CHANCES!!!

Is it Soup Yet?

by Master Po on Dec 24, 2009 3:04 PM EST reply actions  

I love Pierce, but this will make for an interesting couple of weeks

Tony will be an important part of the rotation no matter how he is used by Doc with Pierce and Daniels out. Size match ups will be an important consideration, but this good will be a chance for T. Allen, Walker, Giddens and Scal to earn playing time and demonstrate how they can contribute. After this we could be even deeper with the three players likely returning in January. These opportunities are very important for that reason and should make things interestingly different for a week or two.

by SteveZ from Edgemont on Dec 24, 2009 4:13 PM EST reply actions  

Too Many chances

I loved the Marquis Daniels signing at the beginning of the season, because I figured it meant this bonehead wouldn’t see the light of the court again. You can guarantee it every game that he is in, he will have a dumb turnover, and then in transition foul. Why has Marquis been out this long, did he break his hand? I sincerely hope TA gets packaged with Scal at the deadline for a guy like Raja Bell, who will bring veteran toughness and a given skillset to our veteran team.

by Tradetime on Dec 24, 2009 4:26 PM EST reply actions  

yes, essentially Marquis 'broke his hand'

Specifically, it was an injured thumb.

I believe it was originally injured some time ago (preseason?) and slowly, slowly got worse – and especially got aggravated when he caught a bullet pass in practice from Rondo. Marquis described it as a ‘Nolan Rondo’ fastball.

Unfortunately, hand injuries, like foot injuries, often take quite a while to heal.

by mmmmm on Dec 25, 2009 1:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Next we'll have Pierce out for a couple of months.

Anyway here’s to TA making the most of his chance. I do warn some of you to manage your expectations with regard to TA and you won’t be utterly disappointed.

"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said

by Birdbrain on Dec 24, 2009 4:38 PM EST reply actions  

Tony Allen will be ok

I expect TA to have a decent game. He won’t be mistake-free, but based off of last several games I expect him to continue the trend towards positive play. Yes he has been up and down..some could honestly argue mostly down, but I’m just of the belief that you can’t keep an old dog down for long.

As long as the Celtics (And TA) play Team Ball tomorrow,the headlines tomorrow night on ESPN will read:

“Celtics Pull off a Christmas Night Miracle in Orlando…without Paul Pierce.”

No disrespect to ORL, but if everyone steps up as a Team, then Boston can pull this out.

If we lose, then it wil be as a Team…it won’t be all on TA’s shoulders. This is one of the main reasons I have been a Celtics Fan for almost 30 years now…they play Team Ball. Do that tomorrow and they win.

And Tony Allen will be a part of it.

Not In My House! Denied!

by Celtics18and19 on Dec 24, 2009 6:27 PM EST reply actions  

tony adds some serious athleticism out there. when he and rondo are up on the opposing guards, that is a nightmare for them, and they are really good at keeping an eye on each other, seeing that the other one is causing havoc, and cheating into the passing lanes to take advantage of the other guy’s pressure. it is fun to watch, and I too will enjoy these next couple of weeks and I will root for TA all the way.

And BTW, this will be the test for TA in terms of taking care of the ball more than anything else. He can’t try to do too much and turn it over because of pp being out, let RA, and Rondo and KG and Perk and sheed do their jobs, scoring the ball. limit turnovers.

This is gonna be fun

by chicagogreen on Dec 24, 2009 8:04 PM EST reply actions  

oh please ..

yeah the time is now for him to be traded in a package for nocioni tony allen lol lol lol lol..

by lohaus#54 on Dec 24, 2009 8:45 PM EST reply actions  

DEFENSE..

Is one thing I like about Tony Allen, very aggressive & his steals.. The thing I don’t like about him is his being inconsistent especially offensively.. He commits a lot of errors.. Unless he corrects this, he is really a liability to the team!!! I’d rather gamble on Bill Walker than him..

by BOOMBOOM on Dec 24, 2009 9:24 PM EST reply actions  

I hope for the best..

I am happy that TA may get some extra minutes. I’m not going to judge him if he has a bad game or two. He has been playing great for anyone coming off an injury. Even with his inconsistent play in the past, I never felt like he didn’t have the ability to be a solid player. He has had many injuries and not enough minutes over his career. Despite this he has still started 25% of his games. Without a doubt he has needed to mature, and I hope he finally puts it all together.

by B-ball on Dec 24, 2009 10:44 PM EST reply actions  

Misconception

It really irks me when people call Tony Allen a “dumb” player or a “bonehead.” That just reveals the poster’s bias or his lack of knowledge of basketball. Tony’s problem is that his brain gets ahead of his body, not that he is a dumb player. He rarely misses an offensive or defensive rotation.

John Wooden said, “Play fast but never hurry.” If you watch Pierce for any length of time, you will understand what Wooden meant.

Tony hurries. He has difficulties letting the game come to him. That makes him an impatient player, not a dumb player.

TA isn’t going to make Celtics fans forget Pierce during this upcoming stretch. It will take a team effort to compensate for the absence of Pierce. Ray Allen will have to step up, and so will KG. IMHO the critical factor will not be TA, it will be the ability to KG to guard small forwards. If he can do that, the Celtics can go big (KG, Perk, Sheed) and create problems for alot of teams.

by Brickowski on Dec 25, 2009 12:29 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Agreed

As I posted elsewhere, my biggest concern with having Tony out there with the starters is that he needs to slow it down so the offense can actually have a chance to work with him instead of outrunning his own team. I"m not talking about the fast break here. Running the half court requires timing. You can’t drive past a defender so fast that your teammate hasn’t had a chance to plant his pick.

He is definitely blessed with wicked speed and if he can harness that – wow.

And that’s only going to come with time.

by mmmmm on Dec 25, 2009 1:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Excellent Point

How many times have we heard that Perk’s improvement on offense is because he’s slowed down his game. How many times has Doc said the team is playing too fast and needs to slow down. This comment has also been made about Scals. TA definitely can help the C’s if he “plays within himself”. With his recent play he’s earned the chance for more playing time. It’s pretty much his last chance if he wants to remain a Celtic (or even an NBA player).

"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
"Criminally Negligent Officiating"--Tommy Heinsohn

by TrueGreen on Dec 25, 2009 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

All this may end up moot

for two reasons.

1) Scal is expected (according to SportsNet Central) to get the start at SF against the Magic – that doesn’t mean Tony won’t get a lot more minutes than before, but not as many as I think some of us (me) expected.

2) Doc’s latest press conf statements say that Paul will probably be back sooner than originally estimated. As in maybe just a small handful of games, not even 2 weeks. We’ll see, but that is good to hear.

by mmmmm on Dec 25, 2009 1:42 AM EST reply actions  

Tony will be fine

He will be fine. My faith in him remains unbroken. The team also needs his young heart and strong and fast legs. His energetic injections on defense and fastbreaks are a breath of fresh air for us, a dose of carbon monoxide for the opponent.

by gustusias on Dec 25, 2009 1:59 AM EST reply actions  

I smell a trade

… because Wyc said they’re not trading. These guys live and breathe misdirection, so I think a trade could be around the corner. Nothing huge or blockbuster. Most likely somebody like Tyrus Thomas, for Scal and JR (or some other combination of bench guys). Thomas could be plugged in right away, and could be expected to replace PP’s D fairly well.

I really doubt what Doc said about Paul coming back sooner. From the story… 3am call because of pain, immediate drainage followed by irrigation, infection… he might make it back in 2 weeks, if everything goes perfectly. Perfectly means that they chose the right antibiotic, that the bug is not resistant (god forbid), that he’s not sicker than they’re telling us. This knee infection business is pretty serious… in the life-threatening category, as opposed to your typical NBA orthopedic injury. If it takes 3 weeks… so what? Just get well, Paul.

by DRJ1 on Dec 25, 2009 2:18 AM EST reply actions  

TA provides much needed athleticism

As long as he limits his field goal attempts to finishing off fast-break lay-ups…I`m OK with him on the floor.

by Title 18 on Dec 25, 2009 8:38 AM EST reply actions  

IMO, This is the modus operandi of TA. He gets his confidence back, and quickly becomes over confident. Then he turns his mind off, and thinks he can go on his instincts. And he forgets that he isn’t a teenager on the local court and he does something dumb. Then he quickly loses all his confidence, or Doc yanks him and he steeps on the bench, and comes back in and starts to “think”. And then he starts to hesitate, and becomes bad Tony. Then he gets frustrated, and and does something really dumb, and gets injured.

If he has become humble, then he will have out grown this repetitive behavior. If not, and he blows this last opportunity, Bill Walked will have to step up, warts and all.

by johnnymost on Dec 25, 2009 8:44 AM EST reply actions  

What Last Opportunity?

I think Tony is gone at the end of the year no matter how well or how poorly he plays. He should go to a “helter skelter” team like Golden State or the Knicks.

by Brickowski on Dec 25, 2009 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

TA had a decent game today

16 pts (but with more than a few totally foolish jump shots), 4 boards and some good defense. Stop the stupid shots and he’s good for the rotation.

by jdn on Dec 25, 2009 6:20 PM EST reply actions  

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