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Perkins vs. Bogut Had an Old School Feel to It

Heading into last night's game against the Milwaukee Bucks, rookie Brandon Jennings had my attention. It would be my first time seeing the kid play and after a rookie goes off for 55 points, it's difficult not to want to see him for yourself. I figured Rajon Rondo would present a formidable defensive challenge unlike anything Jennings had seen in his still very young NBA career and for the most part I was right.

While the plight of the point guards was entertaining (mainly due to Rondo being one rebound shy of a triple-double and finishing with 11 points, 13 assists, nine rebounds and five steals), the battle of the big men stole the show. Kendrick Perkins and Andrew Bogut did not appear to like each other on the court last night, but Perk was pivotal to Boston's success and Bogut was one of the main reasons Milwaukee kept it close for far too long.

The final lines for the pair:

Perkins: 7-8 shooting, 15 points, 5 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals, 0 blocks, 2 turnovers

Bogut: 11-17 shooting, 25 points, 14 rebounds, 5 assists, 1 steal, 2 blocks, 7 turnovers

Advantage to the Aussie, I suppose, and give him credit for playing so well against one of the NBA's premiere interior defenders. But the tussle itself between these two was worth watching, as the paint proved to be quite the battleground last night.

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I missed out on the '60s, '70s and '80s when the vast majority of the NBA's big men actually played in the paint and brought legitimate offensive repertoires down there with them. Hook shots abounded, along with the five to seven-foot turn around and didn't the '80s serve as the 8-10 foot jumper's hay day? I've watched a ton of footage from the decade and I swear EVERYBODY had that shot, including the majority of the league's big guys.

Now come back to last night and with Perk and Bogut going at it, one might have felt like we had taken a step back in time with the moves we were seeing. Bogut was an absolute whiz with the hook shots, whether they be of the stop and pop kind or of the sweeping brand. It looks like he's turned that shot into his go-to move, although, when the Bucks needed him to utilize that go-to move when they were hanging on for dear life with minutes left, Bogut came up empty on two consecutive possessions, primarily due to outstanding defense by Perk (and a helping hand from Rondo the first time around). But despite Bogut's shortcomings in the final few possessions, he really does possess a nice touch down low, and in terms of old school post moves, he's right up there for tops in the league today (along with guys like Al Jefferson and Pau Gasol).

For Perk, has any NBA center in today's league mastered the short fade away jumper in the lane the way he has? He typically begins his move on the right block, backs his man down and buries him into the paint to the point where his defender is almost under the rim, then plants the right foot, turns, fades, and buries the shot. Speaking of go-to moves, Perk has shown he can fall back on this shot whenever he needs to, particularly early on in games when he's establishing his own rhythm.

I think it's fair to say Bogut is a naturally more gifted offensive player, meaning he did not need to develop as much of his offensive game as Perk did when he entered the league. When Perk first stepped onto an NBA floor, if a dunk wasn't an option, he pretty much wasn't going to score. But it's a testament to Perkins' work ethic, along with Clifford Ray's tutelage when we recognize how Perk has developed into a legitimate offensive threat.

But last night it was nice seeing two legitimate interior players really play where their respective games thrive. Bogut didn't drag Perk out to the perimeter, but instead went at him relentlessly down low, and even though I might be forced to say Bogut got the better of Perk for three and a half quarters, watching a skilled big man with legitimate post moves go up against an equally legitimate interior defender is arguably a rarity in today's game. Many of the 6-10 and up guys in today's league possess outside jump shots, or prefer the perimeter in general. But the paint really was a battleground last night and it was somewhat captivating seeing these two continue to go at it, with the hook shots and the up and unders and the reverses, especially when their teammates cleared the lanes and just let them play each other straight up.

I sure hope Perk treats Rondo to a nice dinner when this team heads off on its next three-game road swing, because of the 13 assists Rondo racked up, a bunch of them went through Perk in the paint. As much as we talk about the unspoken on-the-court chemistry between Rondo and Kevin Garnett when they're executing their alley-oops, the relationship Rondo shares with Perk is equally crippling to an opposing team. With Perk always parking himself down low, whenever Rondo slices through the defense and draws the help defender, he can usually count on Perk being wide open mere feet away from the basket. And if Perk isn't always in pristine position, he's usually lurking somewhere nearby, cutting to the hoop or battling for position for an offensive rebound.

I'm not entirely sure which big men helped spark the wave of the 15-18 foot jumper. Perhaps it was Hakeem Olajuwon or Karl Malone. Or maybe it was those drafted in the mid-to late '90s like Garnett, Rasheed Wallace and Dirk Nowitzki. Whoever was responsible for the transition, Perk's had to deal with a steady crop of perimeter based big men this season, including Channing Frye, Andrea Bargnani and Mehmet Okur, which takes Perk out of his natural defensive element.

But Perkins vs. Bogut proved the NBA can still go retro every once in a while, where the emphasis isn't necessarily on the pure athleticism, but rather on the quickness and the finesse, as well as the intelligence it takes to play quality low post basketball. It's difficult to tell whether the big men of tomorrow will resemble a Bogut or a Perkins as opposed to a Garnett or a Nowitzki, but regardless, games like last night's proved that we can still be treated and reminded of the NBA's low post glory days from time to time.

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good read

good article. I too miss the days when big men played in the post. last night wasn’t exactly Parish vs Kareem but it was gratifying to see 2 centers playing where they belong — in the paint.

by slamtheking on Dec 9, 2009 1:41 PM EST reply actions  

I agree, good write up

Props to Bogut. He had a lot less help on both ends than Perk did. Bogut is a pretty good big man with a history of injuries. I like his scrappy attitude. You are right it did have an old school nature to it.

by Wildblu1 on Dec 9, 2009 2:03 PM EST reply actions  

I started Bogut!!!!

Sweet!

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by BS Patrol on Dec 9, 2009 2:21 PM EST reply actions  

Advantage to the Aussie "I suppose"??

Greg, are you kidding me? He dominated Perk, both statistically and perceptually. There is no supposing about it. He is much stronger than I realized. He is the only center who seems to muscle Perk without any trouble, even more than Howard. This was just one game, but let’s call it for what it was.

by footey on Dec 9, 2009 2:23 PM EST reply actions  

That's just me

Fighting to give Perk some love whenever I can haha. What’s funny is Bogut has the rep of not being a physical big man…someone who lets a physical defender get the best of him…If he keeps playing like he did last night, I’m sure he will wipe out that reputation.

by Greg Payne on Dec 9, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Turnovers

Can’t ignore turnovers. Bogut cost his team 7 shots. That’s a huge number.

by Fan from VT on Dec 9, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

mainly it was the hook shot

Bogut was deadly as poison with his hook shot. When any big has that shot working, it is basically impossible to defend. Perk looked helpless at times until late in the game when he started to shift to Bogut’s chest side as Bogut turned to take the shot. That worked a ‘little’ better at disrupting the motion and the shot, but not much. FWIW – KG also couldn’t stop Bogut on that shot.

On the other hand, Perk was himself extremely efficient whenever he got his hands on the ball down in the post. Bogut didn’t exactly dominate Perk defensively. I’d say neither could do much to stop the other from scoring. And Bogut turned the ball over seven times – something Perk used to do but has really cut down since he doesn’t put the ball on the floor so much anymore.

When comparing stats – dont’ overlook that Bogut played 40 minutes while Perk only played 30.

by mmmmm on Dec 9, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

bogut wasn’t better. he outworked perk , ie until the latter stages of the 4th period when perk battened down. too much shoot and flee with the c’s and not enough holding off the boarder.

by nazzbo on Dec 9, 2009 3:15 PM EST reply actions  

Bogut has to be a force for his team to have a choice..

Perk is like a 4th option. It’s really hard to compare them statistically as Bogut gets the ball almost every trip while Perk every third or so..

But yes, Bogut is turning into a nice young player..

by BWC on Dec 9, 2009 3:30 PM EST reply actions  

I just love

that Perk has stopped putting the ball on the floor so much this season. That was his achilles before, he’d receive the pass, dip the ball down near his knees, and always end up getting stripped or blocked.

It’s been a huge positive change in his game that he now knows to go right up with it, or how to do a head fake effectively.

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by Prof. Clutch on Dec 9, 2009 3:30 PM EST reply actions  

impressed with bogut

I have always been a Perk fan and this year he has really taken his game to another level. But not having seen Bogut play much I was very impressed with him last night. I know he has a reputation of a guy who doesn’t like to get pushed around and doesn’t bang. But last night he rebounded and showed considerable offensive touch in the low post. Beyond that he seemed to relish playing a physical center like Perk almost as a statement in the face of his critics. Kudos.

Also you gotta give it to #9 he found ways to get Perk the ball in the tightest of places.

by jasail33 on Dec 9, 2009 3:32 PM EST reply actions  

the return of the 15-18 jumper

It was well before akeem & malone…it was probably even earlier but in their heydays Dave Cowens, Elvin Hayes and Bill Walton were great at that shot (1970’S).
Not sure why the c’s didn’t continue putting the ball into the post via perk, kg or sheed as they could do whatever they wanted down low.
Very impressive game by bogut I’ve never seen him play so well

by 2short on Dec 9, 2009 3:36 PM EST reply actions  

This Round to Bogut.

Late in 4th quarter, Perk finally figured out he had to keep Bogut from going to his left (it reminded me of Delonte West) Next time they matchup, the disparity won’t be so great.

 As for Perks offense, two words, Rajon Rondo!

by Little D on Dec 9, 2009 4:12 PM EST reply actions  

Congrats to Bogut

Bogut has obviously worked hard on his game, particularly his left hand.

Hear that, Perk? Left hand? If you look down, you’ll see that you have a left hand too. Maybe you’ve just forgotten.

by Brickowski on Dec 9, 2009 4:49 PM EST reply actions  

Great read

I too long for the times when a back to the basket game was stashed in every guy’s back pocket bigger than 6’5. I remember growing up in my formative years in the late 80’s/early 90’s (I’m 26 now) and being slightly taller than my classmates the first thing I learned before age 10 was a baby hook, right and left hand. My offensive game never moved much beyond that, but standing a solid 6’4 or 6’5 (depending on who I’m talking to and if there is anyone there who is actually 6’5) now, I can walk into any pickup game and get 2 or 3 baskets on 5 shots with my baby hooks. I miss good low post only power players.

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by Tom Bellinger on Dec 9, 2009 4:56 PM EST reply actions  

I just think

It’s really fun to watch when two really good low post guys go at it. I mean I missed out on Kareem/Parish or Kareem/Walton or whoever…so these matchups are like candy for me

by Greg Payne on Dec 9, 2009 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

perk vs bogut ..

that was a battle last night you can see that both players were battling in the paint to get there position and i do,nt think they like each other bogut is going to be a all star but dosent get noticed because he plays for the bucks and perk should be considered this year for the all star game if he does get the nod to play in it he will show everybody why he is a beast …

by lohaus#54 on Dec 9, 2009 6:27 PM EST reply actions  

I seem to remember Wilt Chamberlain had an impossible to stop baby hook

by johnnymost on Dec 9, 2009 7:03 PM EST reply actions  

In time the torch will pass from the big three to the dynamic duo

Perk and Rondo have great chemistry, and both still have a lot of upside. If they play together for the next decade it could be a lot of fun to watch. I hope the Cs can develop one or two more really good players to go with them (not to ignore the next two to three years where they will have great talent around them).

by Silverlock on Dec 9, 2009 11:08 PM EST reply actions  

stockton and malone?

kind of come to mind when you think of teams built around a pass-first PG and a strong Big.

‘Need at least one more – preferably a scoring machine in this case to complement Perk & Rondo’s defensive strengths – to make a real championship team.

Boy – wouldn’t Kevin Durant make an awesome complement to Perk & Rajon? THAT would be an awesome ‘Big Three’ for years to come.

Sigh … dreams …

by mmmmm on Dec 10, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Great Article Greg and I agree with "mmmmm"...

Bogut was unstoppable, but so was Perk..even more so. Perk only missed one shot, and committed fewer turnovers.

The wonderful thing here is that Perk will continue to get better offensively and defensively. He’ only 25.

But props to Andrew Bogut, though. He’s extremely solid. Good to know that these two old school centers will be going at it for next several years.

And I agree with “Silverlock”, too….Perk and Rondo will make the Celtics Transition a lot easier over the next several years.

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by Celtics18and19 on Dec 10, 2009 6:26 AM EST reply actions  

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