Sam Presti Scores Again
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There is probably a ceiling to how much a fan base can enjoy a 13-41 team. But it's hard to imagine that Thunder fans aren't close to it considering what they have to look forward to for the years to come.
Oklahoma City GM Sam Presti hit it big again yesterday, acquiring Tyson Chandler from New Orleans for Chris Wilcox, Joe Smith and the draft rights to DeVon Hardin.
The center becomes the fourth integral piece of the promising foundation the Thunder are building. While he has been saddled by injuries this season, Chandler has only fallen short of 70 games played once in his previous seven seasons in the league. When healthy, he will add a legitimate defensive presence in the middle for this team. He will also immediately be the most prolific rebounder on a squad that has no one averaging so many as seven boards per game.
While he will find scoring a bit more of a challenge without Chris Paul throwing him alley-oops on a regular basis anymore, Chandler's tenacity on the glass will likely get him his share of garbage baskets without taking a ton of shots. Once back to full strength, he'll almost assuredly help the team's 21st-ranked defense, and he will join three young players who already know a thing or two about putting the ball in the basket.
Kevin Durant needs no introduction. As we discussed in Monday's awards column, the one-time Texas Longhorn is having a bonkers sophomore campaign. The lanky forward continues to show that he can score from anywhere on the floor. He is hitting nearly 43 percent of his threes, pulling up smoothly from mid-range and causing opponents all sorts of trouble when he decides he wants to attack the rim. The NBA's fifth-leading scorer has already put up at least 30 points in 15 games this year, breaking 40 in three of those efforts. He has earned double-digit attempts at the free throw line 11 times, including a 24-of-26 in his 46-point show against the Clippers in January. Durant is tied for the team lead in rebounding to boot. The smiling face of the franchise is likely reason enough for fans around the league to watch every night.
But he isn't alone. Drafted fourth last June, Russell Westbrook took over the starting point guard's role earlier this season and currently pushes the offense for the team that plays the seventh-fastest pace in basketball. The UCLA product isn't a natural point guard by any means, and as Welcome to Loud City's Mr. Pappagiorgio reminded me recently, Westbrook has plenty to learn about becoming a creator for his teammates.
But he plays fearlessly, attacks the rim hard and has already come up with several awe-striking performances for this team. Westbrook has gone for 20-plus points 10 times, including four 30-plus point games. He is averaging 15 points and nearly five assists per game. Sure, he turns the ball over too much and hasn't shown that he can shoot. But he turns 21 in November and has plenty of time to develop as a player. He isn't the most fun player in the league, as WTLC's Pappa claims, but he sure is exciting.
Not to be lost in this shuffle is Jeff Green, the Georgetown product whom Presti selected for the then-Sonics with the fifth pick acquired from the Celtics in the Ray Allen trade. The second-year forward does a little bit of everything, scoring 16.6 points and grabbing 6.6 boards per game, while playing a bit of defense, too. But it is his shooting that has really made the noticeable improvement in year two. Of the 14 shooting zones tracked by NBA.com's sweet hotspots page, Green has improved his percentage in 11. Only 93 of his 728 field-goal attempts for the season have come from the other three spots. He has also jumped from 27.6 to 41.5 percent shooting from beyond the arc, hitting nearly as many threes (73) so far this year as he took all of last season (76). That's the sign of a guy who worked over the summer.
Chandler is 26 years old. None of the other three are older than 22. The Thunder have Green and Durant on rookie contracts through 2011 and Westbrook through 2012. Chandler and once-promising former Nets power forward Nenad Krstic have player options for 2010-11. Beyond that, the Thunder's only commitments past 2010 are to Nick Collison and Kyle Weaver. Collison and his $6-plus million per year could be gone by that point, and Weaver will make less than $1 million in 2010-11. In the meantime, Presti has done a fine job accumulating draft assets, highlighted by his earning a total of three first-rounders from the Suns and Spurs in exchange for the monumental task of holding on to Kurt Thomas for half a season.
The two worst-case scenarios are that Chandler plays so well that the Thunder can't afford to keep him after 2010 (presuming he opts out) or that he fails to get healthy and busts, thus deciding to take his option in 2011. One of those two supposedly bad situations involves the Thunder getting an excellent year from an upper-level defensive center and then extra cap room in the summer of 2010. The other leaves them with a large expiring deal to trade in 2010-11. And no matter what, they still have Westbrook, Green and Durant and whomever Presti manages to acquire with his stock of draft picks. Not exactly awful.
With all this looking at the future, it's worth remembering that the situation is already improving in the short term. Sactown Royalty's Tom Ziller writes on occasion about frustrating it is not just that the Kings lose regularly these days, but how often they simply fail to compete. The same was true of the Thunder at season's start. Under P.J. Carlesimo, not only did the Thunder drop 12 of 13 to start the year, but the team lost nine of those games by double-digit margins. Since Scott Brooks took over, the team has gone 12-29 and lost only 10 of the ensuing 41 games by double-digit margins. Not the most impressive stat around, no doubt, but this is a team taking small steps. They have played a bunch of overtime games, lost two one-possession games to Denver and beaten Utah, Detroit and Portland at home.
The Oklahoma City Thunder have one of the game's most impressive youngsters. They've got two more recent draftees who aren't half bad, as well as an abundance of future draft picks. Management is committed to making the team better, as evidenced by today's trade. Combine that with the fact that the team is playing hard for its new coach and becoming more watchable with each passing week, and 13-41 sure isn't as bad as it could be.
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Recommended reading: Pappa has some quick thoughts on the Chandler move at Welcome to Loud City. Meanwhile, At the Hive's ATH tries to sort out the ramifications of what amounts to a salary dump for his beloved Hornets. As is the case so often with ATH, his piece is entertaining and informative, and it even features the author doodling in Microsoft Paint.
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How true this is SW
The Sonics Thunder have made themselves a legit force to be reckoned with in the very near future. A core of Green, Durant, and Westbrook is already one of the best (if not the best) young core the league has to offer, and Kyle Weaver could turn out to be a tour de force. The Thunder are not only acquiring offensive-minded players but also guys who can play a bit of defense as well (Durant’s been working on his – and he certainly has the athleticism and length to improve further on that end) and Chandler is the perfect fit for a team that was in desperate need of a big man. Collison was never a true center (although I like him as a PF) and it’s clear Nenad would not be a long term solution. This team has the potential to turn themselves around very quickly. They just need the time to work together and develop some chemistry.
by Slick on Feb 18, 2009 2:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nice article, Steve. This team would be so much more fun to watch if they wore green Sonics jerseys.
They could be a veteran pg away from competing at a high level. Imagine this team with Baron Davis? scary..
by D Dub on Feb 18, 2009 2:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I can’t help but wonder if the Thunder made their move too early in the process. Is their young core that close to becoming a Championship caliber core?
by Who on Feb 18, 2009 3:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
But is it really making their move?
Despite Chandler’s potential contract situation, he is only 26. I don’t think that’s making their move too soon, but I may be misunderstanding you. BTW Who its nice to see a comment of yours again. It’s been a while.
by Slick on Feb 18, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A combination of two things:
(1) Draft Pick — The Thunder are currently tied for the third worst record in the league. But with 30 games left, Tyson Chandler is good enough to to bring the Thunder to the 7th or 8th worst record in the league. Which likely leaves them around the midway point in the lottery in a questionable draft class.
(2) Salary — They still have good maneuverability but Tyson will get $12mil a year which ties up a good portion of the cap. Plus, how much more salary can they afford to take on in free agency over the next two off-seasons when they need to pay Durant and Green in two years time?
I mean this solely in terms of one thing — top tier talent — because the Thunder have just worsened their two best avenues to adding another top player to their core with this deal, particularly the draft pick. As we get to next season and the year after that pick is only going to fall further down the list as the Thunder become more successful.
So, that leads me to a question, is their core — Kevin Durant, Tyson Chandler, Russell Westbrook and Jeff Green — that strong? Is that the core of a Championship contending team in 2-3 years time? It’s fairly clear they’re going to be good, but is it going to be that good? What level of certainty, uncertainty is on the table?
This could turn out to be a fairly large gamble for the Thunder. How much better would this trade look in 12 months time after they’d gotten their final high lottery pick and perhaps spent some FA money? I think it would have looked a lot better.
Did they make their move too soon?
Did they close off doors prematurely that they shouldn’t have closed off?
I don’t know, but it’s a question that has been bobbling around in my head since I heard about the trade yesterday. It feels early — pins a lot of hopes on the guys they already got.
by Who on Feb 18, 2009 5:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Presti is impressive.
This team will be very good soon, and it’s ALL because of some savvy managing by Presti.
At the beginning of this year, I though Durant’s career path would be a #1 on some bad teams, then eventually become a #2. But I have to admit, I was wrong. He is on his way to being a dominant superstar.
D Dub,
They need depth and time. No way would they bring in a vet PG. Westbrook is coming along nicely. Why mess with that? This team has to grow together.
Any team with Baron Davis might as well be a team without Baron Davis. Dude’s always hurt.
by wondahbap on Feb 18, 2009 3:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Take it from a long time Celts fan, putting together 4 or 5 hot prospects and letting them grow does not work. Veteran teams win in this league, there is no way around it. Just ask John Paxson.
If they want to compete any time soon, they need to decide which 2 or 3 guys from their young core they want to keep, and then fill out the rest of the starting lineup with Vets. I picked the pg position because that is the primary decision maker on the floor. Just look what Mike Bibby did for ATL, he may not be a great player but its his veteran experience that turned that franchise around.
You just can’t expect to keep these guys together past their rookie deals, the team will fall apart just like Paxson’s Bulls have.
by D Dub on Feb 18, 2009 10:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
long term
Nice job Steve, but i think Durant’s gone from there long term. My guess is that Ainge has his sights set on him for 2012-2013 just like a lot of other gm’s.
by celty86 on Feb 18, 2009 3:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Oh wow! What improvement!
Only 34 percent of their losses are by double figures. This team is two or three years from a championship for sure. First you lose by single figures. Then you win it all.
Also, saying that Green has improved in 11 of 14 zones is a good way to make a 2 1/2 percent increase in shooting percentage sound better than it is. As a basketball player, these zones seem really arbitrary to me. Certainly I don’t think that shooters think about what zone they are in.
Still, you’re right that adding the three-point shot to his game has been huge. That’s a great point. It’s helped him spike his eFG up six percent to over 50 percent. That’s a nice number.
by willpowell on Feb 18, 2009 4:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
By the way, the Thunder’s announcers are brutal.
I can’t say this often enough, they’re just awful. In the second quarter last night they were taking turns complementing each other’s phrases doing so three or four times in about five minutes, and then made about 5-6 tries at continuing on the other’s imagery/metaphors (something about ice cream and Durant’s layup?) and failing miserably on each occasion. They force everything, and are constantly not in the rhythm of the game.
They kill they joy out of the game for me.
by Who on Feb 18, 2009 5:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm skeptical
I agree that it makes sense for OK to build for the future by trading veterans for a 26-year-old. But on the offensive end, I have bad memories from Chandler’s 2005/06 year, when he was just awful, with hands worse than Greg Kite, and even a lay-up was outside his range. This is now the experiment to see how he does without CP3: I predict it will be 2005 revisited.
So I guess I don’t see this as a huge win for OK. Chandler, a career 8/9 player, is someone you can compete with in the sense that Perk is someone you can compete with, if the other guys are good enough. (Actually, Perk is a better shotblocker, statistically.) It’s risky to project either Westbrook or Green as being a Big Three caliber guy, though I think they’ll be good. Durant is unreal.
So I’m sort of with Who on this. Maybe OK doesn’t need two more years after this of paying $12 million per for a C who is “good enough” (not that this isn’t an achievement; it is) but not really a star.
And nice read, Steve.
"People don't understand, if you can't live the rest of your life off one year in the NBA, you can't live off 21." -- Keon Clark
by Eeyore III on Feb 18, 2009 5:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well, they’ve rescinded the trade—Chandler failed the physical—so I guess all of this praise for Presti and detailed analysis was a bit premature.
by Brickowski on Feb 18, 2009 11:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I've been waiting for the first comment along those lines
and sure, the discussion of the trade may be moot, but the rest of the OKC sentiments were a long time coming. They’ve still got a nice core to build around, and I’ve got no problem with Presti realizing he had damaged goods and rescinding the deal.
Most of the analysis focused on parts of the team that were already there, and that credit is certainly still Presti’s.
-sw
Manuel Aristides Ramirez is the greatest hitter I've ever seen.
by Steve Weinman on Feb 18, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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