Rumors: Celtics Interested In Bell, Sheed, Others
by Jeff Clark on Feb 18, 2009 8:24 AM EST
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The Boston Celtics reached out to the Charlotte Bobcats about trading for proven playoff performer Raja Bell, a league source said. So far, the Celtics don’t have anything in return that appeals to Charlotte.
The Bobcats are telling people that they have a possible two-for-one trade percolating and need to keep a hold on a roster spot.
Boston lost guard Tony Allen to thumb surgery on Tuesday, and he could be out until the playoffs. For months, the Celtics have unsuccessfully tried to trade 2008 first-round pick J.R. Giddens for a draft choice.
Hey, you've gotta like Raja's history with Kobe Bryant.
Please keep in mind, the Celtics have already refuted Wojnarowski's rumor that Giddens was being shopped and the Magic shot down a rumor that he reported that the Celtics were asking about JJ Redick. So take his rumors with a grain of salt for now.
Also, from the Herald:
The Celtics have investigated what it would take to trade for a big man such as Brad Miller, but they don’t have the kind of high-priced players (especially ones with expiring contracts) to make the deal work under the salary cap.
"It’s tough," coach Doc Rivers said. "We’re just going to have to wait and see what happens with the trade deadline and then with guys buying out and then maybe looking at the D-League. I don’t know what we’re going to do yet."
The Miller rumor (as well as anyting to do with Marcus Camby) just seem to be a stretch to me. To get either one you are talking about dealing away a minimum of 3 guys that get a lot of minutes and you almost have to include Perkins to make the salaries work. Thanks but I'll pass on that.
As far as the D-League option is concerned, that's obviously not ideal, but at this point I think the bar is set pretty low. All you need to be is a 7 footer with a pulse and you might just beat out Patrick O'Bryant on the depth chart.
Update with a few more rumors:
Old friend Starbury will reportedly be bought out after the trade deadline and will not be traded.
Walsh said he'd like to make a trade, but it won't be for Stephon Marbury.
After Thursday's 3 p.m. deadline, the Knicks hope to reach a settlement with Marbury, who would likely join the Celtics after Boston traded Sam Cassell yesterday to open a roster spot.
Also WEEI is reporting interest in Rasheed Wallace and even some longshots:
According to sources close to the situation, Ainge has aimed high and taken a shot at trying to acquire a guy like Rasheed Wallace, Marcus Camby and even Amare Stoudamire (who appears to now be off the market).
However, the efforts have come up short thus far — largely because the Celtics don’t exactly have a ton to offer.
If true, you can't blame Ainge for not looking under every rock. However, this will all most likely amount to sound and fury, signifying nothing.
"I'd say it's more than likely that nothing happens," one source within the Celtics organization said.
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Looking into the D-league?!?!? Just shoot me now!
We need veteran players. We have 4 young guys who are pretty much useless for the playoffs because they won`t play. Danny needs to trade Giddens, POB just to make some room. And sign some veterans, please! I would much rather have Wells, Horry, Pollard at the end of the bench than young players who can`t and won`t play…
by thebirdman on Feb 18, 2009 7:00 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Trade POB and Giddens
I suspect it isn’t that easy…
by cordobes on Feb 18, 2009 7:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. Contrary to what some believe, we’re not exactly holding a boatload of assets to move here.
by CoachBo on Feb 18, 2009 7:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
giddens was a stupid pick. I understand why danny took him ( to replace posey) but giddens was a reach and there were other players we could have grabbed that would have helped us. the moment he held out I knew drafting him was a mistake. the kid has bust written all over him
by Red2 on Feb 18, 2009 7:39 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Why?
1. Danny did not select Giddents “(to replace posey)”.
2. Anyone Danny picked would not break into the rotation this year and probably next.
3. Giddens didn’t hold out. He signed late and we don’t know the reason. Glen Davis signed late last year because he wanted a contract that would make him a free agent after this year. That was worked out with his agent and Danny.
"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
by TrueGreen on Feb 18, 2009 7:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Getting embarrasing the extent of how noone is interested in anything off our bench…noone in the league wants our scrubs
by TheAncientRivalry on Feb 18, 2009 7:46 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Why?
Our bench is made up of complimentary players to fit around the starting five. They are all in the lower salary bracket. These players, for the most part, work for this team. They might not fit the needs of another team. Also, because of their low salaries any significant trade would probably not be possible. We can trade one low-salaried player for another. There are probably many trades of this sort that could be done, but they wouldn’t necessarily improve the team. I don’t think it’s embarrassing at all.
"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
by TrueGreen on Feb 18, 2009 7:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Anybody defending the off-season now?
We’ll be looking to supplement our championship-contending squad with D-leaguers.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
by Roy_Hobbs on Feb 18, 2009 7:47 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
A mid-season round of dumpster diving to critique, Roy?
Ready, willing and able …
by CoachBo on Feb 18, 2009 7:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll defend Ainge's offseason...
I’d rather we be where we’re at than overpaying for what was available. What would you have rather him done?
God bless and good night!
by BrickJames on Feb 18, 2009 9:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
precisely
what exactly was danny supposed to have done? we have no cap space…
by WillyBeamin on Feb 18, 2009 10:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
We still have around $2.4 million of our MLE left, so it’s not like we couldn’t have spent if we didn’t want to. Also, there were potentially better minimum salary players than POB.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
by Roy_Hobbs on Feb 18, 2009 10:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So you are upset they didn't use the remaining 2.4 million
to fortify the bench? I love when this place gets in to arm chair QB mode. This should be a great place for the next 4 months win or lose.
'We circle all the games' - KG
by Birdbrain on Feb 18, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sure...
This team has holes, which even ownership has acknowledged. Another poster pointed out that this team doesn’t have money to spend, which just isn’t true. The team chose to go in another direction; to blame that on not having room under the cap just isn’t accurate.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
by Roy_Hobbs on Feb 18, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
if we had resigned posey
for what NOH offered him we would be paying even more of a luxury tax, meaning we would be over the salary cap…please fill me in on how that is not accurate, I know you follow the salaries of the team closely roy.
by WillyBeamin on Feb 18, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, the salary cap and the luxury tax are different things...
… and neither precludes the team from spending money. Teams over the cap are granted certain exceptions to use as they see fit, and the Celtics did not see it fit to spend a portion of it.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
by Roy_Hobbs on Feb 18, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
but a team over the salary cap pays more luxury tax depending on how far over the cap they are correct?
we had a MLE to offer posey, he got signed for more then the MLE. What could danny have done differently? we did not have the cap space to sign posey. period.
if you’re not talking about posey in particular, my apoligies.
didn’t we use part of the MLE on house? and I don’t think we’re the same team without eddie, he’s proven he’s a valuable piece for his salary. so what does that leave us with?
I think it’s pretty unfair to call out ownership given injuries are a large part of our problem right now. with a healthy scal and tony we’re not nearly as “desperate” for bench play. the one move you can knock them for is POB at backup center, but what other backup center would take 2 mil?
by WillyBeamin on Feb 18, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A couple things...
1) The luxury tax is a dollar for dollar penalty. For every dollar you go over the luxury tax, you pay a dollar to the league. That’s why you sometimes hear people suggest that a given player’s salary is “doubled” under the luxury tax;
2) Posey’s contract was not for more than the MLE. He signed a four year deal at MLE money; Danny offered a three year deal for the same annual salary;
3) We did sign Eddie with the MLE. We could have offered him a similar salary with “non-Bird rights”, but it wouldn’t have been quite as high. Who knows if he would have took it.
As for my philosophy, it never was Posey at all costs. It was resign Posey, or upgrade in other ways. The team left $2.4 million on the table and signed busts like POB, rather than investing that money into upgrades elsewhere. That’s disappointing to me. This team is essentially entering the playoffs minus Posey, Brown, Sam, and maybe Tony from last year’s roster. That’s a clear downgrade, and I don’t think that it was the wisest of off-season decisions that led to this state.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
by Roy_Hobbs on Feb 18, 2009 2:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
so we can agree...
that replace POB with a serviceable center and we’d be pretty happy with the off-season?
I’m of the opinion that you can’t really blame danny for not giving posey that 4th year.
by WillyBeamin on Feb 18, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Precisely. Danny needed to replace skillsets – and he’s replaced little or none of the ones Roy outlines.
I’ve been saying since August this bench is a clear, indisputable downgrade. Roy’s right again. This off-season was a clear attempt to get by on the cheap, and we’ve got a few weeks to correct it or this season is going to end early.
by CoachBo on Feb 18, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
But what’s your definition of overpaying? Aren’t we overpaying Tony Allen and POB? And Giddens?
by cordobes on Feb 18, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No
What good is a 200K salary as filler in a trade? The numbers chosen were picked for good reason, I have faith in that.
God bless and good night!
by BrickJames on Feb 18, 2009 12:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd still defend it too...
Danny did what he needed to do, and now we’re positioned to pick up whatever veteran hits the waiver wire, as well as positioned to pick up a nice veteran (read: better than Posey) in the offseason, which will be a seller’s market and thus allow the Cs to stretch their dollar. People on the Internet love to second-guess things—but they rarely understand the context of what their criticizing, nor the long term ramifications of what they advocate for….
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Feb 18, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ain't Neccessarily So
Anybody defending the off-season now?
We’ll be looking to supplement our championship-contending squad with D-leaguers.
I doubt it and we might not do anything. We might keep working with Davis, Powe and Pruitt to get them to improve their games. We might shorten the rotation. We’ll be playing Eddie more at the 2 and have him on the floor with other scorers. We might add Scott Pollard or someone like him. But, I very much doubt us bring up a D-leager (excluding Giddens) to get us over the top.
"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
by TrueGreen on Feb 18, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Third Team Option
I believe detroit owes us from the Sheed deal a few years back.
Time to call in that chip.
by OW_Holmes on Feb 18, 2009 8:00 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
rumors coming out fast and furious
hard to keep up with them, …and it is still most likely that it will all be for naught
"Would I rather be feared or loved? Easy. Both. I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." Michael Scott
by Jeff Clark on Feb 18, 2009 8:10 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
d league options
i’m sure there are a few gems in the d league who could fill a pressing need on our bench. a defensive minded 3 who could spell PP for a few minutes, a sharpshooter or shot blocker. players have had success comming out of the development league, look at what ramon sessions has done…
Or: i’d be psyched if we could snag robin lopez in a phoenix/chicago deal
by arctic 3.0 on Feb 18, 2009 8:17 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sessions was as much of a D-Leaguer
as Walker, Pruitt or Giddens. He wasn’t a call-up, he was drafted.
by cordobes on Feb 18, 2009 8:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What Makes You Think This?
If there was someone like this he would be playing for another team. If there is someone like this Danny can sign him to a 10 day and if he’s that great he could be signed for the remainder of the season. We do have an open roster spot. But if we are to get anyone who can really make the team better it would need to be an experienced vet, preferably with playoff experience. I don’t think you’ll find someone like this in the D-League. Don’t forget, we are out of the developing young player mind set. We’re going for it all and we don’t need a project. POB was a gamble, on the cheap, that probably won’t work out. Signing POB didn’t ruin our chances of making something happen that could really help us.
"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
by TrueGreen on Feb 18, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Player Assessment is not a perfected science
There’s probably somebody in the D-League that could help us under the right circumstances, it’s just a matter of identifying that player and putting him in a position to succeed.
But you’re right, it would be a longshot….
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Feb 18, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Shakespeare
Really, quoting Shakespeare in a basketball column? Especially Macbeth . . . .forbodes ill!
“sound and fury, signifying nothing.”
by tmcdon on Feb 18, 2009 8:25 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
thats how I roll
"Would I rather be feared or loved? Easy. Both. I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." Michael Scott
by Jeff Clark on Feb 18, 2009 8:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Conveniently omitted the phrase...
“told by an idiot” = ]
God bless and good night!
by BrickJames on Feb 18, 2009 9:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Stoudamire, Camby, Wallace
This means Ainge was willing to trade starters or even to break up the Big 3? Colour me as skeptical.
by cordobes on Feb 18, 2009 8:29 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Another rumour
There is still potential that the Celtics can sign a free agent big man, which would solve depth issues there, such as Micheal Doleac, Scott Pollard, or Othella Harrington. Stay tuned…
http://layupdrill.com/2009/02/mcgrady-done-for-the-season/
I prefer a D-Leaguer to Othella Harrington.
by cordobes on Feb 18, 2009 8:30 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don't hate the idea...
of Scott Pollard. actually if healthy and available I like that move quite a bit.
by WillyBeamin on Feb 18, 2009 10:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually This Might Happen
When Pollard was here he looked trim. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was worked out. And he could probably give us 10 split up minutes. He knows the system and he could help the team if healthy. He does know how to play and could be just the guy to play the PJ Brown role.
"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
by TrueGreen on Feb 18, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
danny tries. what else can we ask for. let’s hope he succeeds and doesn’t come up with a raef.
by nazzbo on Feb 18, 2009 9:03 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Rasheed?
At a minimum, the Celtics would have to send out salaries equal to $11,064,000. I don’t see how we could accomplish that without trading Perk or Ray. Either that’s a made up rumor, or Danny has lost his mind.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
by Roy_Hobbs on Feb 18, 2009 9:03 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
there's zero way we land sheed
i doubt we land anyone who’s not an utter scrub (juan dixon, etc)
God bless and good night!
by BrickJames on Feb 18, 2009 9:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
His best shot was in the offseason with the MLE and the LLE. I’m fine with House. He’s been pretty good for the money, but TA and POB? Good lord. Now, as everyone knows, we have little to trade with and nobody wants our scrubs. The offseason was the time to assemble the bench.
by Mencius on Feb 18, 2009 9:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There will be useful players available, especially guards. Teams may need the Celtics to facilitate a deal. And after the deadline, there will be plenty of guys waived.
What concernes me is that the rumored deal of Szczerbiak (and goodies, probably Hickson) for Antawn Jamison will go through. That would make winning the East very, very tough.
by Brickowski on Feb 18, 2009 9:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
yep what Cle does is probably more important than what we do.
by wahz on Feb 18, 2009 10:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If there is a way...
to get Raja Bell. I LOVE that move.
by WillyBeamin on Feb 18, 2009 10:27 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Bottom line: If it were even possible, and it’s not under the cap rules, ownership would have to spend more in cash and assets to now replace Pose than it would have cost to just keep him. It was obvious then that it wasn’t a big overspend and it looks worse now.
Looking ahead, if we can upgrade the back up center position or get a REALLY GOOD shooter(Bell)without changing the roster at all we still have a shot. BUT Scal will have to play like Posey jr, Powe will have to play like he did against NO, and TA will have to come back to play D in the playoffs
by wahz on Feb 18, 2009 10:29 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’m sure Posey is available if the Celtics are willing to take on that contract. The Hornets were rumored to have been shopping him heavily but there were no takers. So they unloaded Chandler instead, leaving them zero chance of winning anything in the forseeable future.
by Brickowski on Feb 18, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tony + POB + Giddens
For Posey + Ely. Done.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
by Roy_Hobbs on Feb 18, 2009 11:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Will he drop the last year of his salary?
'We circle all the games' - KG
by Birdbrain on Feb 18, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Where do I sign up on that one? We give up absolutely nothing.
by CoachBo on Feb 18, 2009 10:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sheed in Boston?
I have need 4 Sheed, but not in Boston, that would be weird…..the most likely thing that will happen is Marbury would come here and if not, nothing will happen and we go to war for #18 with what we have.
by Scalablob990 on Feb 18, 2009 10:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I could see Sheed coming to Boston...
… but not until next year, as a free agent.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
by Roy_Hobbs on Feb 18, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yep it does look like we grab Marbury and maybe Horry
by wahz on Feb 18, 2009 10:44 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
yep. Talk about a chemistry downgrade: Cassell/Starbury
We absolutely should try to get Posey. I know it won’t happen but the most obvious move would be that. It can be a future salary dump for NO and they can take back TA, Scal and whatever
by wahz on Feb 18, 2009 11:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No Posey
Posey had played like crap this year and has shown why he’s not worth his contract.
by Brickowski on Feb 18, 2009 11:09 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
No, he hasn't
We all know you hate the guy, but that’s simply untrue.
by cordobes on Feb 18, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t hate Posey. I’m just not willing to reacquire him based on what he did last year. He’s in decline and not worth anything close to his contract.
by Brickowski on Feb 18, 2009 11:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In decline?
More revisionist history from this board.
by CoachBo on Feb 18, 2009 10:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pose is not gonna happen
…because he has a 4 year contract and they will not be willing to take that on now, just as they were unwilling last summer. He would be great to have, but can’t see it happening.
by DRJ1 on Feb 18, 2009 11:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He's overrated by this board.
'We circle all the games' - KG
by Birdbrain on Feb 18, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sheed is unrealistic but
I’d rather we get a legit center and go to war with Pruitt/Walker than try to get a guy like Horry and still have a hole in the middle.
by illantari on Feb 18, 2009 11:11 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
The rumours look like garbage, nothing to any of those possible trades.
by Who on Feb 18, 2009 11:33 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Rumors
I bet they end up with Swift from OKC. 3 mil. Workable.
by celty86 on Feb 18, 2009 11:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Swift
Swift is still hurt, isn’t he? Besides, he’s not much better than POB.
If you want a backup big man on the cheap, someone like Melvin Ely is a better option. If you are willing to pay more, then Nick Collison should be the target. He gives you sound, fundamental play at two positions. Same with Oberto if he comes on the market.
by Brickowski on Feb 18, 2009 12:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Ely as the C’s fifth big in the rotation — but I don’t think he adds anything more that Powe and/or BBD bring to the table. I think both players should play ahead of Ely.
by Who on Feb 18, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If Charlotte wants to save money and get cheap prospects
Walker, T Allen, Powe, and OBryant for Bell works. We could give them cash too and a draft pick its not my money so whatever it is to make it work we’d be well off to try.. Charlotte has to see value in TA and Walker and the cash. Powe probably leaves after the season. Bell gives us a guy like Posey and he’s only a 2 year contract. Id hate to lose Powe but Id then try top pick up a long big off the wire.
by wahz on Feb 18, 2009 12:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
well IF they are talking they have to talk about something
I am just showing that a package like that is what will have to happen for it to work. We have some value in our youth, even if its not a lot, and we will just have to throw in cash and picks if needed to do anything at all. Its a bad situation
Danny needed to appreciate more that a core of the big three, Rondo, Perk AND POSEY was worth keeping. He knew he needed to replace Posey and its been easy hasn’t it? Adding someone like Bell is perfect and it won’t be easy at all
by wahz on Feb 18, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Would you guys do
RA, Perk & JrG for
Sheed & Rip
Sheed wants out, and Rip hasn’t played that well this year.
by OhioGreen on Feb 18, 2009 12:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’m not willing to include Perk in most deals. His contract and contributions relative to his contract are too valuable to give up. Especially if the team has to be tight with it’s money over the next three years. So no I wouldn’t do that deal.
Rip for Ray by it’s lonesome is somewhat tempting mainly due to Rip’s younger legs — but probably not enough to break up the Big Three and Championship core.
by Who on Feb 18, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope
Ray is better than Rip, and Perk is a better defender than Sheed. Plus, we can have Sheed for just the MLE next season, most likely.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
by Roy_Hobbs on Feb 18, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Some Sense
Ray has outplayed Rip in every game the teams have played since Ray came here. Sheed is contractually not possible to get. He’s nice when he plays, but he too has done nothing against us in 2 years. Sheed has the physical ability to help us. And the fact that he and KG are friends might give him the mental motivation to play. With things as they are Perk, Davis and Powe will give us more than Sheed would in terms of intensity.
"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
by TrueGreen on Feb 18, 2009 7:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rumors
Brick,
Swift was DNP-Coach’s Decision last game. He has only played 17 games this year out of 54 so he must of been hurt as you said. He’s been averaging 14 mins a game in the one’s he’s played. I admit, I kind of forgot about him. Back a while ago there were a lot of posts about how he was Danny’s binky. As for Collison, I like him a lot but he is a forward not a center. Not sure how good of a back up to Perk he would be. BB has a lot more girth than Collison to bang with.
by celty86 on Feb 18, 2009 12:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
All we need is a long big
Last I looked the Celtics had the best record in the NBA and had played the most games. Brickowski is right about Posey. Now that most of you have gotten off Scal we don’t have any ugly contracts like so much of the NBA. Posey’s contract in NO makes Danny look smarter. Raja Bell sounds good if the price (Leon, BBD) isn’t too high.
I’ve watched POB in garbage time. He doesn’t really look terrible to me. Nice low post instincts, soft touch, verrrrry long and tough to shoot over. Yes, looks a bit slow. Somebody tell me why he isn’t better than Scot Pollard , Robert (Hasn’t shown anything yet) Swift or any big in the D league?
by Wildblu1 on Feb 18, 2009 12:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
POB Is Not Better Than Pollard Because
Pollard will beat the *&^% out of the guy he’s defending for the few minutes he’s in there. Pollard can rebound without leaving the floor because he knows how to box out his man. I also think Pollard is stronger. And Pollard has the experience. POB has some nice skills, but he’s too soft to play for this team.
"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
by TrueGreen on Feb 18, 2009 7:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The only 2-for-1 deals that would net Raja Bell are:
Allen/House
Scal/Davis
Scal/POB
Scal/Giddens
I’ve left off Walker, Pruitt and Powe b/c I don’t think they’re looking to deal them. I’m not sure why CHA would do any of the deals including Scal since they have Diaw, Radmanovic and Wallace.
Tony Allen + Eddie House for Raja might tmept them since House would almost certainly opt out to get out of CHA after this season. But that seems like a lot to give up for Bell - though he is sort of a combination of House + Allen.
by Gainesville Celtic on Feb 18, 2009 3:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Skeets just dropped this rumor
nothing to do with the Celtics, but…
J.E. Skeets: And we’ve got a little birdie droppin’ this … feel free to chew on it …
Rumor: Miller and Salmons to Bulls for Gooden, Nocioni, Simmons, Ruffin.
"Would I rather be feared or loved? Easy. Both. I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." Michael Scott
by Jeff Clark on Feb 18, 2009 3:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nothing likely to happen?
So basically Ainge has forfeited this year :/
by Marqui on Feb 18, 2009 4:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
lol
yes ainge is quitting on his 44-11 celtics… quite the shame.
by WillyBeamin on Feb 18, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fire Ainge. 44-11 isn’t nearly good enough. Plus they’re as good as gone from the playoffs. Just ask anyone at TNT or the LA Times.
by Brickowski on Feb 18, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So what if they have a good record? The Cs have shown multiple times this season that their weak bench just cant keep up with the other championship caliber teams.
by Marqui on Feb 18, 2009 5:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Their bench will be fine. Rotations get shorter in the playoffs anyway. Besides, their bench may lack scoring, but it is not weak defensively. In fact, on defense it is one of the better benches in the league.
by Brickowski on Feb 18, 2009 7:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Again, Someone Makes Sense
For the first part of the season we’ve played the bench mainly as a unit. As the season has gone on we’re mixing and matching subs and starters. Also, the bench has won some games for us. The starters have let us down at times. This, I truly believe is due to the front-loaded schedule. Also, we lost a few games, that even though we deserved to lose, we could have won, if not for the officiating.
I would also add to Brick’s statement that with House at the 2 and with Ray, Paul, KG or Rondo on the floor House can give the bench the scoring we need from it.
"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
by TrueGreen on Feb 18, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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