I would still like us to trade a couple of guys away if possible. At least Giddens for a second rounder or something similar to open up a roster spot…

I’m glad you’re optimitic about Smith. I’ll keep my fingers crossed. I still can’t make up my mind if I’d like Marbury though.

If we can land Smith that would be sweet.

I’d rather bring back Sam than bring in Marbury if we’re picking up an experienced PG if for no other reason than Sam knows the system and isn’t a locker room cancer.

If Sam/Marbury come in, POB is the likely cut. Shame to give up on a young 7-footer so quickly but Smith could realistically produce as a back up for another 2 years.

I have little interest in Smith, and no interest whatsoever in Marbury. Neither one plays defense, and Smith, at 6-9, is not much taller than Powe or Davis. If you need a 7-footer, go after a 7-footer, e.g. Chris Mihm.

As for the guard position, I don’t see anyone out there better than Pruitt, and that includes Marbury, who never played defense in his life.

i would prefer smith but mihm is very nice if he’s available.

Give me a break. we’re better off without mihm..NO THANKS

Smith sounds good, and raja bell would be ideal(although thats very unlikely)

Talent alone doesn’t win championships, and the assumption that Marbury— after sitting out the whole year— will suddenly become motivated to play the right way upon joining a new team is wildly optimistic. There is a reason why his teams have never won, and there is something to be said for a second unit that doesn’t allow 12-0 and 14-0 runs as it waives at opposing players on their way to the basket. Sure, Marbury can creat scoring opportunities— but mostly for himself.

As for Joe Smith, he is a 6-9 mid range jump shooter. That’s it. He’s not a good defender, and barely adequate as a rebounder at the pf position. He can’t play center. He is not, in my view, an upgrade over either Powe or Davis, both of whom have championship rings (while Smith does not).

Now Fabricio Oberto would be a different story. He’s gritty, tough, and has always played the right way. If he get waived, Ainge should be on the phone the very next second.

I aslo like the idea of trying to pry away young veterans with upside from teams that may be looking to dump salary. I’d be interested in guys like Thabo Sefolosha, Julian Wright, Renaldo Balkman and Antoine Wright. Each one of thiose guys would be a nice long wing defender off the bench, which IMHO is what they really need, not another big man or point guard.

I’d go that way. You want to have unprotected sex with a known HIV positive person? That’s Marbury to the Celtics.

And Brickowski is right on. Joe Smith is barely taller (if he is) than Leon or Baby and has been know nmost of his career as an underachiever. Also, as Brickowski has said in many posts, rotations get shorter in playoffs. Worrying about 10-12th man is dancing on head of a pin. There are no good long big men out there that are better than what we’ve got. Chris Mihm ! He gives you ten good minutes and two weeks in the trainers room.

Just round the team we’ve got into playoff temper and condition and we can play anybody. One caveat…if we could pry Bird Man Anderson from Denver that would be an active big man. He cost Denver less than $1 mil. That was a good signing and they probably wouldn’t give him up.

Smith is no 10-12th man.

I think everyone has been forgetting just how much of a talent Marbury really is. If he was perfect, he wouldn’t be in the sorry situation he is in now.
But f he can’t get motivated to play “the right way” now, then the guy is literally the biggest bum in the history of sports.
I find it hard to believe he can’t play “the right way” for 3.5 months.
As for Smith, we should be worrying about depth, even if it is the 10-12th guy. One of the main reasons we were successful last year is because Danny left no stone unturned.

Assuming that TA may not be back soon, then need a taller version of him who can guard Kobe or LeBron in the secong and third quarters, so that Pierce or Ray Allen don’t have to do it. IMHO that’s the key to success in this year’s playoffs.

And don’t tell me that Posey filled that role last year. He did not do a good job on either of those players.

Great posts so far. I’m not very familiar with Joe Smith, but if it means I don’t have to see BBD come in as a “backup center” anymore, then I’m for it. But there legitamitely should be a taller person available. I can’t stand watching Oberto (the flop master), but I’d agree with Brickowski that he would be a decent option.

However, I disagee with Brick on Pruitt. The second unit struggles greatly, and most particularly b/c we don’t have a PG who can pressure the opposing defense. This in turn takes House (and Allen if he’s in there) out of their game, and leads to rushed jumpers, turnovers, and forced shots by Leon & BBD, and others. Pruitt at this point does not have the skills, experience, or fortitude to provide what the Celtics need off the bench. It’s crazy to think that Pruitt would be more valuabe in the playoffs than a motivated Marbury.

That was a great point brought up. And right now I’m drawing a bit of a blank. Pierce won’t play 48 minutes, and it’d be real nice to have a go-to-guy (that isn’t very TO prone) who could somewhat lock-down the star of the other team. Any ideas?

if anyone else mentioned this but both Smith and Marbury have played with KG and you have to believe KG would have to give his blessing meaning he could keep Marbury in line. We need another vet pg.

http://forums.interbasket.net/f6/nba-nba-pre-draft-measurement-4427/

I have a bunch of other links as well if anyone wants them but its from Googling

almost all of the guys are1- 2 or so inches shorter than listed in media guides so the relative heights matter. Its reasonable to guess he has 2 inches on Leon and we all know he can jump higher

Smith has had multiple knee injuries and his arms are not nearly as long as Powe’s I’ll take Powe on the glass ANY DAY over Joe Smith.

Gabe vs. Stephon: Advantage Gabe. Reason: he’s had 2 years to learn the Cs’ system, he is very aggressive and good on defense, he has shown flashes of brilliance on offense, and he gets along with everyone. Now is his time to shine. Doc has said he’s going to give him a shot, and (of course) hopes he makes it. Marbury would be coming in ice cold, with a history of (very) bad chemistry, and NO knowledge of our system. KG lately has been talking about maintaining team “harmony” if there’s to be any new players… a broad hint that Marbury (a) is potentially dangerous, and (b) better behave himself if he does come.

Joe Smith vs. Oberto: Advantage Smith. They’re the same height. Joe is the better defender, better free throw shooter and better athlete. And Joe seems like the one that would fit in better. Given two equal players, always take the one that WANTS to be here… he’ll play his heart out.

Tony Allen, JR Giddens, POB: That’s the order of players I would get rid of if the need arises. Tony Allen first, if at all possible (but that would probably have to happen today), because he is extremely injury prone and a knucklehead. JR seems like the guy nobody ever invites for Christmas… if you’re gonna ignore him anyway, dump him if you need the spot. And then POB… I put him last in this group because at least he’s 7’1" and has some potential, I suppose… though he is a knucklehead too and I am not at all sanguine about his prospects.

Smith + Marbury = Banner 18

This is my feeling as well. Those of you touting Pruitt or Sam at this point are nuts. Marbury bring scoring off the bench, which we sorely need. And Smith brings a reliable perimeter shot, which I think we need more than length.

If we can land both, we will be in the drivers seat for banner 18.

I don’t know what to make of Joe Smith. I’d definitely want Danny to sign him if he were available, because he is a quality player and does add something different to the bench.

However, like Brickowski, I’m not convinced he’s an upgrade over BBD/Powe. More different, than better.

Us getting Joe AND Marbury would be so nice. But at this point im just hoping we get at least one.

I’m not in the Joe Smith camp, but Oberto isn’t getting much time on the Spurs. I’m still for the Leon/BBD plan. Very good point about who picks up LeBron and Kobey when Pierce is out. Time to see what Walker’s got. He wasn’t afraid of Lebron during preseason.

Well, why isn’t Joe Smith playing that much? If he were that good, he wouldn’t be getting bought out.