Starbury On His Way to Beantown?
Update: I just got word via email that the Marbury buyout from NY just became official.- Jeff
With Stephon Marbury soon to become a free agent after receiving a buyout from the Knicks, the Celtics are now a front-runner to sign him once he clears waivers, according to an NBA source. Marbury has expressed interest in joining the Celtics. An NBA source said the Celtics are strongly interested signing the two-time All-Star and will likely offer a contract to him to fill their final vacant roster spot once he becomes a free agent. Boston filled its 14th roster spot by signing forward-center Mikki Moore today. Celtics president Danny Ainge said today that now with Moore signed, the team will now focus on signing a combo-guard or wing player.
The Herald, meanwhile, is reporting that Marbury is "very close" with the Celtics on a contract.
Said one source to ESPN.com: "Look for Steph to get bought out today."
Another source close to the process indicated that Marbury and the Celtics have already commenced discussions on a contract.
Last three seasons of Steph's stats and career averages post jump.
| Career | FG | 3PT | FT | Rebounds | Misc | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Year | Team | G | Min | M | A | Pct | M | A | Pct | M | A | Pct | Off | Def | Tot | Ast | TO | Stl | Blk | PF | PPG | ||||||||||
| 2005-06 | NY | 60 | 36:23 | 5.8 | 12.9 | 45.1 | 0.6 | 1.7 | 31.7 | 4.1 | 5.4 | 75.5 | 0.4 | 2.5 | 2.9 | 6.4 | 2.6 | 1.1 | 0.1 | 2.4 | 16.3 | |||||
| 2006-07 | NY | 74 | 37:06 | 5.3 | 12.9 | 41.5 | 1.7 | 4.7 | 35.7 | 4.0 | 5.2 | 76.9 | 0.5 | 2.4 | 2.9 | 5.5 | 2.4 | 1.0 | 0.1 | 2.5 | 16.4 | |||||
| 2007-08 | NY | 24 | 33:30 | 4.6 | 11.0 | 41.9 | 1.2 | 3.1 | 37.8 | 3.5 | 4.8 | 71.6 | 0.7 | 1.8 | 2.5 | 4.7 | 2.0 | 0.9 | 0.1 | 2.4 | 13.9 | |||||
| Career | 823 | 38:12 | 7.0 | 16.1 | 43.4 | 1.2 | 3.7 | 32.6 | 4.6 | 5.8 | 78.5 | 0.7 | 2.3 | 3.0 | 7.8 | 3.1 | 1.2 | 0.1 | 2.4 | 19.7 | ||||||
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no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no……alright fine. But don’t talk.
Reporter: About a year ago I asked about the Celtics-Lakers thing and you said you'd really only seen it on TV. Now you've been through it, can you talk about playing the Boston Celtics for the NBA championship?
Kobe: It Sucks.
by indeedproceed on Feb 24, 2009 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Exactly my thoughts
Just play the game, Steph.
Don`t open your mouth.
by Casperian on Feb 24, 2009 7:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is when
the Big Ticket really makes his presence felt. He’s going to have to keep this guy on a short leash. Doc must love having KG be the enforcer in the lockerroom. Saves a lot of headaches.
by The Real Large James 2 on Feb 24, 2009 6:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It just doesn't work that way.
But this may still prove to be a great move by Ainge, who always has one eye on the future of the franchise. To benefit from the post-Marbury bump you must first have Marbury on the team.
Minnesota Timberwolves 1998-1999 25-25 Last Season with Stephon
Minnesota Timberwolves 1999-2000 50-32
New Jersey Nets 2000-2001 26-56 Last season with Stephon
New Jersey Nets 2001-2002 52-30
Phoenix Suns 2003-2004 29-53 Last season with Stephon
Phoenix Suns 2004-2005 62-20
New York Knicks 2007-2008 23-59 Last season with Stephon
New York Knicks 2008-2009 24-32…
by The Walker Wiggle on Feb 25, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Brilliant
Now THAT is some sharp analysis! Great job TWW!
by Thruthelookingglass on Feb 25, 2009 9:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"excellent..." -- M. Burns
This is good. This is really good. Go get ’em Danny.
by teaguelife on Feb 24, 2009 6:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Marbury being Marbury
Does anyone really believe that Starbury will be his disrespectful self in front of Truth, Ticket and Jesus? Really?
He is being presented with a three-month opportunity to erase many years of reputation-destruction – he will seize it, and the Celtics will raise banner 18.
by steinalive1 on Feb 24, 2009 6:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It's Now Earth, Wind and Fire
A week or so ago some Boston broadcaster named Truth, Ticket and Jesus as “Earth, Wind and Fire”. Ray, of course, is “Earth”. But, as to Marbury. I don’t like him, I don’t think he can help us more than the group we have to use at backup point. But, what is there to lose? It will be a short, low budget contract. The worst that can happen is he won’t play. He will not be able to upset the group chemistry we have. At best he can be very good for us. We know he is a skilled player. If he wants to continue to play in the NBA he will want to show every GM that he can work and play well with others. And putting him in the presence of Danny, Doc, KG, PP and Ray may be just what he needs to grow up. I also don’t think Marbury would like to upset Perk.
"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
by TrueGreen on Feb 24, 2009 6:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
fingers crossed
if he indeed joins the C’s. I’d love to see him have a huge, POSITIVE impact and help us get No. 18.
And I’ll confess to being curious at how Marbury attacks the reserves on the other teams.
That said, if the scenario doesn’t turn out so rosy, Marbury has proven quite capable of not playing at all. So long as the powers that be know if and when to pull the plug, I will hold my nose, fight the bile and cheer for . . . gulp . . . Marbury if and when he becomes a C.
by Thruthelookingglass on Feb 24, 2009 7:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it`s Blood, Sweat and Tears?
by Casperian on Feb 24, 2009 7:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's Good, But
Who’s who? I think “Blood,Sweat and Tears” applies to all of them and possibly everyone on the team.
We need to finally get an official name for three great players.
"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
by TrueGreen on Feb 24, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Starbury is an impact player...
Now, let’s see which way the impact is.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
by Roy_Hobbs on Feb 24, 2009 6:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'll reiterate my question in the forums
Are we giving minutes to Walker, or killing PP? Or is Doc’s plan to teach Gabe to play the three? (end sarcasm)
by illantari on Feb 24, 2009 6:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Please Read The Lips Of Doc
Doc goes to great lengths to reduce the minutes of PP, Ray and KG. He says it all the time. He wants them ready for the playoffs, not burned out. I don’t know the stats, but if you look at them you’ll probably find they are pretty close to 35 minutes, which I believe, is the max amount of minutes Doc wants them to play. But there are extenuating circumstances. If the bench is playing well we can hold a lead and the three can sit. Notice last nite. If there are days off coming up the minutes might be extended. Doc is usually very strict on KG’s minutes. He’s more lenient with Paul and Ray. Doc knows what his players can do. It is very important to get home court advantage, especially for the Eastern finals which will probably come down to the Cavs and Celtics. I don’t think home court is as important in the finals. I actually think, because of the 2-3-2 format that it could be a disadvantage. I just wish people would stop harping on minutes. I really believe Doc knows exactly what to do.
"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
by TrueGreen on Feb 24, 2009 8:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he was just saying
that it would be nice to have capable backup swingman and it would be great to see someone step up because now that the roster spots have been filled with a big man and a guard, and TA is injured, there’s no slashing wing bench player….unless we try and give walker minutes
by Slick on Feb 24, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome. Red always said Danny was lucky, and he is.
by Mencius on Feb 24, 2009 6:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hard to call it "luck"...
When this has pretty much been his plan since day 1….clearly he had more than a “crapshot chance” at this transpiring…he knew that Marbury was a likely buyout and that there would be plenty of available players off waivers this year – and there were…
Boston PASSED on Mutombo to hold out for a big that could shoot and he worked the Marbury angle ALL FRICKIN SEASON to the point where Marbury was bought out and already ready to come here…
Masterful management and foresight instead of impatience is what i say…
by BillfromBoston on Feb 24, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that was sarcasm, Bill
Only you and me and couple others believe it was actually a plan though…
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Feb 24, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Clearly, there was a method. It was a plan/hope, in that it certainly was not entirely in Danny’s hands. There was an element of luck involved.
I’m a huge Danny fan though, and of course he knew that there was a likelihood of some decent players being bought out, and that we’d have a pretty fair shot at landing a couple of them.
That notwithstanding, Red always said Danny was lucky, and he is. It’s good to be both lucky and good, and Danny is both.
by Mencius on Feb 25, 2009 12:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm assuming...
… that he’ll clear waivers as of 10:00am Friday.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
by Roy_Hobbs on Feb 24, 2009 6:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We need a 3
Hopefully TA can be healthy come playoff time.
by Champzilla on Feb 24, 2009 6:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Marbury can play the two and Ray can play the 3. Marbury is a combo guard scorer. This would be a very good pickup. Marbury can score off the bench, play with Rondo or House. Good move.
by liamail on Feb 24, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wha-wha-whatttt??? he did get bought out? wow
by TheAncientRivalry on Feb 24, 2009 6:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
OH BOY!!!
Hold on to your hats fellas… It’s gonna be a wild ride!!! haha
Hope he plays up to his capabilities… what are they again? heh
by RichT24 on Feb 24, 2009 6:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well.... May need to take a shower after it is all over.
Best possible move under the circumstances, but you can’t help but feel a little dirty after this one.
by Hondo on Feb 24, 2009 6:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
"Well.... May need to take a shower after it is all over. "
Heck with it… we’ll do the walk of shame when the season’s over :-)
by Mencius on Feb 24, 2009 6:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's hope it is because
we are once again covered in champagne and beer.
by Berkcelt on Feb 24, 2009 7:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If we get him for chump change, and then cut him loose once the playoffs are over, I’ll be happy. He hasn’t learned his lessons in his entire life. Why would this be any different?
Also, how does this fit into Doc’s treatment of players, practice etc? If Doc makes allowances for Marbury, then it undermines his control over the rest of the team.
by amenhotep04 on Feb 24, 2009 6:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Doc
how does this fit into Doc’s treatment of players, practice etc? If Doc makes allowances for Marbury, then it undermines his control over the rest of the team.
This is Doc’s greatest strength, people management. Doc is incredible at treating all his players as individuals while at the same time not giving preferential treatment to any player on things such as practice. Also, with PP, KG and Ray, Marbury will not miss a practice unless he has a darned good reason, something Doc would do for any player. In fact, the opposite of missing practice is more of a problem to Doc. Often Doc has had to not allow a player to practice. This is a team where players cannot be kept off the court without a fight. KG would have played last nite if it were up to him. Doc will not allow him to practice or play until he gets a medical OK. Last summer, when Perk was recovering from shoulder surgery Danny caught him playing in Texas and had to stop him. Doc wouldn’t allow him to practice in pre-season until he was OK’d by the Doc and Eddie LaCerte. Marbury has never been in this type of situation. As much as I don’t like him, we need to give him a chance. And as you say, if it doesn’t work out he won’t be back next year. He probably won’t be back anyway, even if he does well, because we could not pay him very much.
"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
by TrueGreen on Feb 24, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
marbury hasn't played all year
I’d be pretty surprised if he wasn’t itching at a chance to get back on the basketball court, this is the guy’s life after all.
by WillyBeamin on Feb 24, 2009 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he will be a difference-maker...
…but I really would much rather the Celtics win a title without Marbury than with him
by mattyweb on Feb 24, 2009 6:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If Ainge really is lucky...
Starbury will blow out his knee walking into the Garden. As I said before, Anyone who is willing to justgive up a entire season for 2 out of 20 million dollars is not someone who is suddenly going to see the light. Hopefully getting another contract will be motivation enough for him but I have a bad feeling about this.
by furball2323 on Feb 24, 2009 6:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Why does he owe the Knicks anything?
Get over yourself. He’s doing the knicks a 4 million dollar favor by doing a buyout at all.
He didn’t sign himself to that contract. He didn’t bench himself. He has every right to two million dollars that he’s giving up.
Would you give up 2 million dollars?
God bless and good night!
by BrickJames on Feb 24, 2009 6:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree...
Marbury may have his problems, and some of them may be troubling, but the deal with the Knicks is not one of them. He was ready to play, they SIGNED A CONTRACT… and then decided they didn’t want to honor it, wanted to back out, have him eat a couple of million bucks. Huh? He was right to resist them, and I tell ya, it shows some character on his part to take the deal even now. I think (but am not sure) that he will still lose money on the deal. And obviously, money is in short supply these days…. this is no time to be throwing away any of it.
by DRJ1 on Feb 24, 2009 7:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not about him owing the Knicks
It’s about him wanting to continue his career. Do you think KG would sit out the year over 2 Mil.? Especially when he has the chance to pick which team he plays for and can go play for a champ. Mind you, they were going to pay him 17 MIl. It’s not like it was 2 mil or nothing. It was 17 mil and you get to play or 20 mil and you take a season off. I’m willing to bet right now that KG would pay each of us 2 mil if it would allow him to play tomorrow night.
by furball2323 on Feb 24, 2009 9:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
question repeated...
would you give up 2 million dollars?
by WillyBeamin on Feb 24, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes!!
Pay me 17 Mil to play for the Celtics and I’m a happy man!!!!! Again, it wasn’t 2 mil or zero, it was 20 mil to sit at home or 17 to play for the World Champion Boston Celtics. I’ll take option B all day!!!!
by furball2323 on Feb 24, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Now that that's (almost over)...
How quickly will he learn the offensive sets? Sam had a lot of problems with those last year. What about the defense?
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
by Roy_Hobbs on Feb 24, 2009 6:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Exactly, the defense. If he regains any form resembling his old self I’m sure it will be negated by getting beat by the opposing player.
by amenhotep04 on Feb 24, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd say about a month until he's comfortable
Just in time for the playoffs to begin…
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Feb 24, 2009 7:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Valid point...
…but the backup PG minutes with the 2nd unit should be easy – all Pick-and-Roll with him as the ball-handler…its the play off-ball that will be tougher, but I don’t think it’ll be that bad…
by BillfromBoston on Feb 24, 2009 8:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it is good
Steph will be a god boy we hope
by tommyfan on Feb 24, 2009 6:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Steph
Steph was awesome when he played against us in preseason, he really did seem like he was in the best shape of his life. Hopefully he can score and run the offensive. I can’t wait to see a Starbury to KG alley oop like the old days.
by Champzilla on Feb 24, 2009 6:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
POB looked good in the off-season, too
by Casperian on Feb 24, 2009 7:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You had it right the first time – for some here.
As for Marbury, there’s absolutely nothing I like about him or his game.
But you have to weigh this by the alternatives. I want another title this year. Marbury is better than any of the alternatives – at this time.
Ergo, he gets a chance.
by CoachBo on Feb 24, 2009 7:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The team just got an All Star...
caliber talent for the NBA minimum…
While i’ve never liked Marbury’s “me first” attitude or his failure to live up to his talent, i certainly wouldn’t say there is “nothing I like about his game.”
This guy is tailor-made to be the 6th man, focal point play-maker and scorer off the bench…sure there are some questions about whether or not he’ll bring baggage with him, but I think there is a very strong possability that he’ll fit in just fine…
…this sounds more like sour grapes to me…Ainge just masterfully filled two need areas for exactly his price-point by being patient and not caving to the will of those that felt that the off-season was the only chance to improve this team.
If Marbury maintains his attitude and plays his role, you are looking at the ONLY team in the NBA with 5 All Star caliber players….this move could be a “check-mate” move putting Boston squarely back into favorite status…
by BillfromBoston on Feb 24, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A stretch?
Love him or hate him, Starbury is no longer an “All Star caliber player”. If he has his head on straight, though, he can fill a role.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
by Roy_Hobbs on Feb 24, 2009 8:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If hyperbole won a title, this thread would single-handedly deliver Banner 18.
Marbury isn’t an All-Star, and he hasn’t been for awhile. If he wants to contribute, he will.
by CoachBo on Feb 24, 2009 9:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta say that Danny is both lucky and good to get legit NBA help for pennies on the dollar. Bravo, Danny.
by Mencius on Feb 24, 2009 6:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Eddie House
I do love when Eddie House plays the 2 spot, he doesnt need to create his own shot anymore.
by Champzilla on Feb 24, 2009 6:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Good point Champ.
yeah, that could be lethal.
When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"
by Green17 on Feb 24, 2009 6:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This Is The Whole Point
Eddie needs to be at the two. We’ve been doing it lately in different ways—by having Pruitt, Ray and more recently Rondo play the point when Eddie is in. Marbury would only be insurance.
"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
by TrueGreen on Feb 24, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have to add
I hope KG really does have Rondo’s back, because if Steph starts demanding more minutes, we could have a problem.
by illantari on Feb 24, 2009 6:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Of course KG has rondos back, as does the entire team and organazation, isnt it obvious?
KG is closer with sam then he is marbury, and Sam can be a whiner himself and it never became a problem
by TheAncientRivalry on Feb 24, 2009 7:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There Is No Way Marbury Will Make Any Demands
Rondo doesn’t need to have anyone covering his back. He’s proven himself to the point where even the “big three” say we need him to win. If Marbury can earn the starting job over Rondo that would be fine. But, there is no way that will happen. Rondo is a much better player, especially for this team. Marbury is only a backup if he comes and he may not even be the first point off the bench.
"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
by TrueGreen on Feb 24, 2009 8:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope he and KG film another commercial:
by teaguelife on Feb 24, 2009 6:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don't know how to feel about this.
I don’t doubt the fact that KG will have a sit down with Marbury to talk about the sweetness of proving your critics wrong. Then, it’s in Marbury’s hands. It all depends on the way in which he chooses to prove his critics wrong. Ideally, I’d hope he would want to prove to everyone that he isn’t a cancer and can be a team player. But, he’s completely capable of being selfish and wanting to show everyone that he can still ‘ball’.
If Marbury keeps his cool and embraces ‘ubuntu’, then we will have an all-star caliber guard coming off our bench. And that is an incredible thought.
by BOSPORTS on Feb 24, 2009 6:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If Marbury Comes Here
Danny and Doc will have a short talk with him and tell him he comes here with a clean slate. Period. Then the ball is in Marbury’s court. If he gets this chance he should take advantage of it. It will then be a win/win situation.
"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
by TrueGreen on Feb 24, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know this is silly but...
Can you imagine if we had Posey instead of TA and these two other additions? We’d be an iron lock for the title.
by Mencius on Feb 24, 2009 6:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I like our chances as it is
by TheAncientRivalry on Feb 24, 2009 7:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I do too.
Was just saying that swap out TA for Posey and it’d seem like a lock.
by Mencius on Feb 24, 2009 7:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
didn't we sign house with part of the MLE as well
so it would be TA and House for Posey
by beantownboy171 on Feb 24, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh. Can we get Stern to void that?
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by CoachBo on Feb 24, 2009 10:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yes yes yes
Thanks ainge. Now we have 5 allstars (Rondo Soon). #18 here we come. Just play team ball don’t do what cassell did last season.
by Change on Feb 24, 2009 6:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If nothing else...
… this soap opera will be great to watch. “O boy”.
So THIS is what KG’s been up to…. AHA!
by DRJ1 on Feb 24, 2009 7:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Waste of a Roster Spot
I guess Ainge wants to preserve the honorary “Sam Cassell Memorial Chair” on the Celtics roster, reserved for chuckers who play no defense.
by Brickowski on Feb 24, 2009 7:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
very in a million years
did i think steph as a celtic….i never liked him but will learn to do so if he is a “good” teammate."
i hate the lakers and dolan….but if they helped us i’d root for them too.
This window is very small. With Le Bron becaming a man’s man I think we need to win 18 this year & next.
So Steph will obey & preform or else…..
by tommyfan on Feb 24, 2009 7:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Brick
You’re describing Danny as a player. See a pattern?
by The Real Large James 2 on Feb 24, 2009 7:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i am not a marbury man, nor a big mikki man, but, the cost is low and we have to trust danny. last year he got us pj after we speculated about pj all year. now it’s steph time. one must appreciate danny’s patience and his willingness to play poker. cassell while wild and crazy was a good influence on the team and helped win a few games for us. dan is not a sit on the hands guy and always seems to have a plan c-f, going. he’s had his bombs but banner 17 is waving and we have another great record this year. i will gripe if these 2 new guys goof but i won’t be an -i told you so.
by nazzbo on Feb 24, 2009 7:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Danny's Gamble
Confucius say The greatest mistake you can make in life is to be continually afraid you will make one.
by charlie chan on Feb 24, 2009 7:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
well played
"Would I rather be feared or loved? Easy. Both. I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." Michael Scott
by Jeff Clark on Feb 24, 2009 7:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
word
When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"
by Green17 on Feb 24, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Re: "Danny's Gamble"
“There is nothing to fear, but fear itself”—Franklin D. Roosevelt
"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
by TrueGreen on Feb 24, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
POISON Mistake
“The undiscerning mind is like the roots of a tree; it will absorb all that it touches – even the poison that would kill it.”
The young undiscerning minds on this team will hopefully not put their roots to close to this poison thug who has poisoned everything and everytime he tried to put down his own rotten roots on every team he touched.
Terrible day in Celtic history
Is it Soup Yet?
by Master Po on Feb 24, 2009 7:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
can we have Charlie and Po go head to head in a Confucian philosophy-off?
When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"
by Green17 on Feb 24, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is why Po is the master...
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
by Roy_Hobbs on Feb 24, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
Bleed Green. What does it mean?
by CelticsHooRah on Feb 25, 2009 1:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am not looking forward to having to root for this clown..
but i guess you have to go out on the limb to find the fruit… hopefully all doesn’t come crashing down.
by D Dub on Feb 24, 2009 7:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wow, the similes run deep today, and what an eventful day. It’s been fun.
by Mencius on Feb 24, 2009 7:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
After his first 20 point outburst, it'll get much easier...
to root for the clown…
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Feb 24, 2009 7:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would like to have your optimism
I would fill it in bottles and sell it on the asian market.
Big in Japan, Baby.
by Casperian on Feb 24, 2009 8:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who's willing to bow at the feet of the great one, Danny Ainge
Looks like the plan to play it conservative during the offseason and go for waiver wire additions after the trading deadline has paid off again. Y’all can keep saying he’s lucky, but I think he’s got a plan…
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Feb 24, 2009 7:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I'm bowing
Although, you have to admit, there was luck involved as well.
by Mencius on Feb 24, 2009 7:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes and No
The luck aspect of this purported signing is that it just happens to be at a position we desperately need to shore up—backup point guard. That’s very lucky.
The non-luck aspect is that Danny knew SOME veterans were going to be bought out after the trading deadline (that being an emerging trend in the last 5 years) and that, with the salary structure of the team, combined with the remaining free agent options on the board after Posey took NO’s offer, it was more prudent to go conservative with the offseason pickups because we were almost guaranteed of getting someone off waivers who was both BETTER and CHEAPER. So, you go cheap in the offseason, let those players prove themselves in the first 4 months of the season, sell off the losers (POB and Sam, in this case) and then improve via the waiver wire. We save money, possibly unearth some bargain basement players (a must with our salary structure) and add short-term veterans at the end of the season. Genius all around. And it was all planned from the beginning.
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Feb 24, 2009 7:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course there was luck involved...
Any job where you don’t hold all the cards will require some degree of luck – but chance favors those who prepare for it – Ainge clearly weighed the probabilities and assumed a calculated risk – it has paid off…now Marbury has to do his part…
by BillfromBoston on Feb 24, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And of course there was a high probability of decent players being bought out
A couple of you seem to take issue with the term lucky. Clearly, Ainge knew that there was a great probability of some decent players being bought out and that we being the champs, would have a pretty good shot at signing a couple. Seeing as we are not the only team in the league trying to sign players, there was some element of calculated risk. But as Red once said, Danny is indeed lucky. Lucky and darned smart.
It’s not an either / or thing.
by Mencius on Feb 25, 2009 12:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have a feeling . . .
Marbury is just going to come in here and play and do as he’s told without drama to prove people wrong.
by rrc589 on Feb 24, 2009 7:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Me too.
Funny thing is, Marbury tried to do just that in NY this year, but it was the Knicks who created the drama. From what I’ve read, he came into camp in the greatest shape in a while, agreed to come off the bench, but then was told they didn’t want him and he wasn’t in their plans. I think D’Antoni had already made up his mind before he even got to NY that Marbury would not play for him.
by Bankshot on Feb 24, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
D'Antoin is a notorious dink...
..his winning ways in Phoenix overshadowed many of the problems that led to his eventual removal…
by BillfromBoston on Feb 24, 2009 8:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Now THAT is an image from my past...
…and a painful past it became. Let’s home those two can go a long way to relieving that pain.
by Big Ticket on Feb 24, 2009 7:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Painful ?
I can’t tell if you are serious or not. I wouldn’t say marbury leaving the twolves would be “painful”. Maybe Len Bias dying after draft night is painful.
by Champzilla on Feb 24, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I'm serious
For a team that never had anything or went anywhere, to develop a tandem considered the new Stockton-Malone, only to have one of them throw a fit and demand a trade because he couldn’t make as much money as the other. As a fan, that was painful.
by Big Ticket on Feb 24, 2009 8:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Champ that’s unfair.
When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"
by Green17 on Feb 24, 2009 8:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah... well...
I’ve come to expect it from him… not really surprised by his comment.
by Big Ticket on Feb 24, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
whats unfair, I don't get what I said wrong ?
by Champzilla on Feb 24, 2009 8:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wolves fans are allowed to be bummed about that promising duo breaking up. I don’t see how Bias is even remotely something that should be brought up.
When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"
by Green17 on Feb 24, 2009 8:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How am I suppose to know he is a wolves fan ? I apologize for my comments relating to Big Ticket’s response, I meant no harm if he was upset by them. I thought he was kidding in all honesty by saying marybury leaving was painful, thats why I asked if he was serious, I thought most people hated him.
by Champzilla on Feb 24, 2009 8:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously? Unless there are two dudes on the blog under the name Champzilla you’ve been in the chat room with BT many times.
When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"
by Green17 on Feb 24, 2009 8:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't bother Green...
He knows. It’s not the first time he’s used this “I’m innocent” act when I questioned his animosity towards me. I’m over though… don’t really care.
by Big Ticket on Feb 24, 2009 8:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Big Ticket
In all honesty, If you were upset by my comment I am exteremly sorry. I thought everyone hated marbury, thats why I thought u were joking. I don’t have any animosity towards you, I think you are a great poster, I like reading your articles, I haven’t been in that chatroom in months.
by Champzilla on Feb 24, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Steph will be highly motivated
If he screws up, he must know that NOBODY will wanna touch him next year. So from his point of view, his performance in what’s left of this season is worth much, much more than the paltry sum he will be paid for it. It’s worth the many millions he could command in coming years IF AND ONLY IF he hits a home run for the Celtics this season.
I suspect that other considerations… pride, work ethic, ubuntu, etc…. that motivate guys like KG and the gang do not apply very well to Marbury. But this motive… money… undoubtedly does. So yeah, he could really shine for us. And from the Cs’ POV, close to nothing is lost in taking this shot.
by DRJ1 on Feb 24, 2009 7:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
Bad attitude, highly skilled players can pull themselves together when they want to (Terrell Owens, for example)…it’s just a matter of presenting the proper situation for that…luckily, we’ve signed Steph in the middle of the perfect storm for his resurgence…he been vilified be almost everyone, sat out almost the entire season, he’s wants another contract, he’s coming to a team that needs him, and all he has to do is play well for 2 months or so and he’s golden again. That’s a huge carrot, easily attainable, and the Boston Celtics stand to gain from it. Then, after he gives us what we want, we let him sign elsewhere next season for a bloated contract someone. Win/win for both sides.
This is totally a Red-like move.
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Feb 24, 2009 7:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's it to a T...
…its all lined up for him, he’s not my kind of guy, but he’s not that dumb…he knows how to get what he wants out of life and for once in a blue moon those priorities align with what we want…
by BillfromBoston on Feb 24, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
calculate risk
I feel this is a calculated risk…
with everthing leading to the playoffs…this added help would do wonders in keeping our big 3 fresh for the playoffs….
if starbury doesn’t pan out….well…he is used to the DNP stats anyway…. ;)
by celtpinoy on Feb 24, 2009 7:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
starybury
he will change cuz he wants to win the big one. and i want all the celtic players to check him including garnett. we need this. cuz all my laker friends are talking ish on me and im from california born a rise as a boston celtics fan since birth
by 2liveNdieNBoston on Feb 24, 2009 8:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’m on the fence on this signing.
So no new wing, huh? That’s just lovely.
by Who on Feb 24, 2009 8:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Eh
KG definitely had a massive influence in Boston, but he also had some talented vets willing to buy into a system. He couldn’t save mildly talented headcases like Ricky Davis or Mark Blount. Unfortunately that’s where Marbury resides in my mind. A mildly talented headcase.
by LuckyNumber07 on Feb 24, 2009 8:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Larry Bird Would Take Out Marbury If Need Be
When Dennis Johnson first came here he showed some disrespect to Coach KC Jones in front of other players. Larry Bird didn’t see it, but players who did came to Bird and told him what happened. They asked him if Bird wanted them to take care of the situation or if Bird should do. Bird told the guys that they should take care of it and if the problem persisted Bird would take DJ out to the parking lot and beat the #%^& out of him.
Times are different, but I don’t think Marbury would be a problem if he comes here.
"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
by TrueGreen on Feb 24, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't Worry
I was a Knick fan my whole life until recently and I can assure you guys that Steph is not the cancer they make him out to be. He had more friends on the team than enemies. The Knicks treated Patrick Ewing like garbage, then turned Steph into a scapegoat. They lost me as a fan along with thousands of others because they have no class. Steph will help the Celtics offensively, but he is a much better defender than given credit for. He just had the misfortune of being stuck playing with one dimensional players like Crawford and Curry who were completely lost on the defensive end of the court. Everything you’ve read coming out of NY needs to be taken with a grain of salt- they exaggerate and lie A LOT.
by formerNYKfan on Feb 24, 2009 8:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Qs
I am a realtively new NBA fan ( 3 years ) can some one answer these for me?
I am huge KG fan and a boston fan via KGs trade to boston
1. Can marbury after sitting on the bench ( well in this case not even being in team practices) be a good player for about 15-20 mins? Is that easy for pros to do?
2. Will he buy into the fact that Rajan is the present and future for Boston?
3. I have never seen too many games of marbury is he a good shooter in clutch situations?
4. And the last Q i have is good team defender? When ever i watch boston i remeber the movie 300 where King Leonardas says some thing the effect any problem with one defender is going to burst up the team defense of the whole team.
by uk7 on Feb 24, 2009 8:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Try At Answers
1. Not sure, especially not sure if he can learn the defensive system
2. He has no choice but to know that Rondo is the MAN here.
3. He’s a good shooter and ball handler and can take it to the basket and finish. Don’t know if he can do this in a TEAM concept.
4. Don’t think Marbury has looked up the term “defend” in the dictionary. He’s not known as a defender, but neither was Ray Allen or Paul Pierce. I knew Pierce could defend, but chose his spots because until KG and Ray came he was the whole offense and couldn’t expend the energy on defense. I was totally unaware that Ray, despite his good reputation, could defend and be as a complete a player as he is. Again, probably due to the situations he was in. So it’s possible that Marbury could defend. Especially on this team where the team comunicates so well on the floor. The other players can coach him on the job if need be and he’s got the ability. Eddie House is another example of a guy not known for his defense. He’s not the greatest, but he works real hard at it.
"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
by TrueGreen on Feb 24, 2009 9:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Some guy at my work just merrily walked into his office singing...
Steppphhhon… Stephon-Stephon-Stephon!
Which is weird… because I’m in California. No idea if he’s referring to Marbury, but I’m somewhat intrigued now.
by Big Ticket on Feb 24, 2009 9:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Stephanie
He might be in love.
by Champzilla on Feb 24, 2009 9:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
More than anything I hate the Star on his head,
BUT I guess I can live with seeing it for 12-18 minutes a game.
IF he
1. Shuts his mouth
2. Tries to play a little D
3. Tries to believe in team basketball
Otherwise, kick him in his ass and tell him to hit the road.
If the Cowboys could only play like a team with passion and unity like my beloved
Boston Celtics, I would be happy.
by Captain Comeback on Feb 24, 2009 9:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
the way i see it
steph brings the ball up 4 the second unit,he won’t get trap like House @ he can dish it off 2 mikki moor to hit the 8 footer if not keep the rock and take some one off the dribble.
by flinttown on Feb 24, 2009 9:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Im really not sure about marbury, but its nice to have some exciting news amidst all the injury scares.
by spinz on Feb 24, 2009 9:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'll Take Gabe Pruitt
Marbury is going to go behind picks and shoot the ball. He isn’t going to the rack. And he’s no Eddie House as a shooter. He shoots 41% overall.
On defense he will waive at his man on the way by.
His teams don’t win. And if he plays significant minutes for the Celtics, they won’t win. Hope I’m wrong, but I don’t thinks so.
I’ll take Gabe Pruitt any day.
by Brickowski on Feb 24, 2009 10:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Go ahead and take gabe pruitt, and enjoy him doing nothing and sitting on the bench in the playoffs regardless of whether or not we get marbury
by TheAncientRivalry on Feb 25, 2009 7:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But..
He can create his shoot and pass, two things Eddie House can’t do. And he does get to the rack on occasion, especially if he’s as motivated as we think he’ll be… And imagine what playing with Marbury will do for Eddie (and TA when he comes back). Everybody on the 2nd team will benefit from this signing.
If he doesn’t play defense he won’t play…seriously, I’m pretty sure he can defend the point better than Eddie House. It’s a matter of learning the defensive schemes….
His teams haven’t won. Doesn’t necessarily mean he’s the reason why. I don’t see our winning percentage taking a hit with him here…
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Feb 24, 2009 10:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Danny is a cagey strategist, knows the business, Doc can handle Steph...
and KG said in an interview this year that he would love to play with “Steph” or have him on the team, or something like that…
Thinking deeper into this situation, i guess the two things that stand out are these:
1. There are not very many proven point guards available right now, and so marbury is a good option for the C’s, especially since they have a tight system to fit into. P’oB never did, C-YA… but he didn’t damage us. Same w/marbury, he’ll learn it or not play much. Worth the risk…
2. I can’t see very many good big options out there beyond Mikki and Joe Smith, and i would take either of them. Another good pickup.
danny has put the C’s in position to have a strong bench for the playoffs. Kudos…
Hope the positive factors mentioned by all above posts allow steph and MM be their best and help the Celts win it all…
by jyrecelts on Feb 24, 2009 10:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Boston is relaying on their "strong team culture", Pistons said basically the same time about AI. It’s eerie how similar the situation will be, Outspoken defensive big man(Sheed, KG) and lazy on defense one and one shooters(AI, Marbury) don’t mix. Maybe Marbury and KG will reclaim their Wolves duo days, I doubt it.
by Fundefined on Feb 24, 2009 11:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nowhere near the same
AI was acquired as the star attraction, to start, play 40 minutes a game and be what he always was. Steph is being brought in as a bench player to play 15-20 minutes a game on the defending world champs. We don’t need Marbury and KG to reclaim their Wolves duo days, Steph is not being looked at to play such a significant role.
by KJ33 on Feb 24, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Pistons traded their “strong team culture” when they sent Chauncey packing.
by Berkcelt on Feb 24, 2009 11:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Way, way different scenario
Detroit traded for Iverson for cap space. End of story. Any decent play Dumars gets from this team is gravy. Come this summer, it’s going to look like a stroke of genius when Iverson and Wallace come off the books and GMs are practically begging Dumars to take their crappy contracts for nothing. In a basketball sense, Dumars made a calculated risk with short-term risks and very few long-term ones. To his credit, Iverson hasn’t really messed with the chemistry of the team as Curry has wrecked the team with his awful rotations and inability to design a decent offensive set. Curry is likely gone after this season and the Pistons have a crapload of cap room to rebuild around Stuckey, Hamilton, and Prince.
by BCR on Feb 25, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
KG "Wouldn't be opposed" to marbury
according to the Globe, KG said marbury has a very high basketball IQ. sounds god to me…
by jyrecelts on Feb 24, 2009 11:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
There's still a chance for some luck
Maybe some GM will go out drinking tomorrow night and in a drunken stuper put in a waiver claim for Steph. We could be saved yet!!
p.s. Don’t get me wrong, I hope I am wrong about this. And I will love eating my words if I am.
by furball2323 on Feb 24, 2009 11:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Uhm
Everyone here realizes that even at his best (All-Star, third team All-NBA), Marbury was as flammable a defender as you can get? The guy hasn’t played for a year and while he can provide good driving and ballhandling skills, he was never a good shooter and ankle injuries have robbed him of a lot of his athleticism. Now, I’m not saying that signing him isn’t a good idea — it doesn’t hurt the Celtics to try him out — but he’s not the panacea people are making him out to be.
by BCR on Feb 25, 2009 12:27 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sam cassell and Pj Brown were both on their last legs, no?
by TheAncientRivalry on Feb 25, 2009 7:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If Danny is foolish enough to sign this cancerous scumbag, he should be fired after the inevetable first round exit.
by iowa plowboy on Feb 25, 2009 12:49 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
ONE guy is not going to take down THIS team
all he can do to the team is help… maybe even a lot…if it doesnt work out, we can cut him any time.
the only person this doesnt work out well for is Gabe. I didnt think Doc would play him in the playoffs anyway, but his minutes will go down the rest of the season. Better luck next year Gabe.
by greenteam18 on Feb 25, 2009 1:13 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’m not so sure. If any single player can bring down this team, it’s Marbury. He’s a loser from day one. Oh, he and his agent will say all the right things, but don’t believe a word of it.
by Brickowski on Feb 25, 2009 4:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Word.
Doc would start Marbury over Rajon except Rajon gets more rebounds in 5 minutes that Steph gets in a whoe game.
Steph. STEPH? Isn’t that an infection? Like STREP or STAPH?
by wahz on Feb 25, 2009 1:30 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Stephon is physically prime, but...
His ankle injury is long gone… in pre-season, he looked and played great. But…. I just read this… and found it a little, uh, disturbing….
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-38-233/Stephon-Marbury-Talking-Points.html
Oh well, we’ll soon find out apparently.
by DRJ1 on Feb 25, 2009 1:32 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Let's play a little more into the "What Ifs" of the whole Marbury acquisition
Let’s say everything worked out with him this season.. he stayed in his place and knew his role, rose up to the occasion ONLY on times when we needed him to do so and got us that 18th banner.
After that supposed successful run, do you think we’d still sign him up for a MLE contract perhaps? If he really does turn over a new leaf and pans out great for us, I wouldn’t want to get rid of him after a single good run.
Yeah, I know I’m counting my chickens before they’ve hatched already, but I’m pretty stoked about having him on board.
by Wax on Feb 25, 2009 1:38 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
$$$
I’m with Salmon and Bill on this one…. Danny had this calculated out from the beginning. He has to. He has 3 big contracts to pay and the rest he has to filter into the overall payroll structure. It’s moneyball in the NBA. It’s easier to get the role players than the stars. In a few years hopefully he’ll be at it again with KD.
by celty86 on Feb 25, 2009 6:54 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Off subject
But looking closer at that pic with KG and steph from there days in Minnesota, that tattoo KG has on his arm isnt even visible anymore, maybe he got it removed?
by TheAncientRivalry on Feb 25, 2009 7:22 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Let's Wait
Let’s wait a few days and see who else gets waived. Maybe a player will come available who isn’t a chronic loser.
by Brickowski on Feb 25, 2009 8:26 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Same thing...
To the people who are complaining that he’s going to be a distraction, just remember a few years back. This is the same situation that Boston teams, not just the Celtics, have been going through for a few years now.
Patriots in ‘04 sign Corey Dillon, who had a bad reputation, plays for the Pats, doesn’t say a word, all’s good.
In 2005, the Red Sox signed David Wells a pitcher with kind of a bad reputation.
In ’07 Pats sign Randy Moss, another one who has a bad reputation, first season, he sets a new TD record.
My point is that players, regardless of their past, will behave like saints when they are on a team that gives them a chance to win. Marbury had absolutely no chance of winning a title in New York, just like Corey Dillon had no chance of winning a title in Cincinnati, David Wells had no chance winning a title with the Padres, and Randy Moss had no chance of winning with the Raiders. Marbury will be just fine, he will be a good boy, he’ll play behind Rondo without grumbling, and come June, Marbury will have himself a ring and the Celts will have an 18th banner made to go up in the garden
by Mr. Faz on Feb 25, 2009 3:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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