C's Fall To Pistons

we got nothing from our backcourt. When KG is out, Ray has to produce for the C’s to win.

- Refs were terrible, again. A lot of bad and missed foul calls (especially by Bynum early), and that turnover at 2 minutes was a kicked ball by Prince. Which they missed, of course. But they did not lose this game for us.
- Three people mostly caused this loss: Doc, Ray, and KG.
- I think Doc fails to have the guys adjust their game to the refs. I.e., I think he fails to recognize that sometimes, like today, the refs call every touch on a drive, but no offensive fouls. If he saw that, he would have everybody ADJUST to that reality and drive, drive, drive. And yet, everyone except Paul kept taking the outside shot until very late in the game.
- Ray had a bad game. It happens.
- The other team member at fault is KG. For sitting out so long with his mystery “injury”. That’s a separate post… suffice to say that it’s getting old already… and disgusting.
- Ugh

Nice photo of an offense foul. We ran out of gas in that game. Too many minutes for PP.

New Rule -

Whenever the Celtics are on a fast break, Eddie House is NOT allowed to pull up for a fifteen foot stop jumper. He never makes those, and it usually just leads to a long rebound to the other team leading to a fast break and a score.

Is this not the perfect time to give Walker meaningful minutes?

That is why the C’s lost today. Rondo was bad and Ray was horrible. Marbury is still trying to learn the system, but was in the game when the C’s made their run ahd had some nice assists. I also think Doc was outcoached when the Pistons went with a big lineup and Doc had guys like Marbury and House guarding guys 6-7 and 6-9. What today proves to me though is for the most part if Rondo has a mediocre or bad game, this team is in trouble. KG or no KG, this team should not be losing to the Clippers on the road or to a sub-.500 Detroit team at home.

I thought Doc got out-coached today.

There’s been a lot of slippage since the Clipper game. Slow rotations, a complete lack of defensive intensity (only 3 steals today), Rondo being timid and the offense playing slow, Ray Allen a little off, Paul Pierce and his thumb, trying to work Moore and Marbury into the lineup, etc… The next 2 days of practice should be big. We need to put an end to the slippage.

Doc’s rotations have been suspect. He keeps saying he needs to limit Paul and Ray’s minutes, and then he does nothing about it during the game. Hell, Paul Pierce even volunteered in the post game press conference what the rest of us have been yelling for 2 months—Bill Walker needs spot minutes at this point in the season. I’d rather lose with Bill Walker getting valuable minutes on the court than lose with Paul Pierce playing 47:41 and us still getting the loss. Doc needs to step up his game. Moore played too long in the 1st half, Marbury was a decoy for most of the game (those 2 picks at half court might have had something to do with it), and then Doc rides Eddie House down the stretch, which is fine until he starts missing….Doc waited 3 minutes too long to replace him with Rondo. This was also the perfect game to go small and increase the pace of the game. Doc didn’t do that either. Doc needs to get better and it starts with playing Bill Walker and getting Paul’s minutes back down around 35 a game.

There were the typical questionable calls (Detroit averages 22 free throw attempts a game, and went to the line 40 times today) and certain Pistons playing out of their butt (Hermann comes to mind), but we still should have won—we had the lead in the 4th quarter and just couldn’t make the plays down the stretch. Disappointing loss and shows me that we’re trending in the wrong direction—the last three games have been poor defensive efforts, and Rondo’s not playing the way he needs to play. Of course, we’re really missing KG, Scal, and TA right about now….

On the bright side, Powe was great in limited minutes (best +/- of any C), Baby’s maturing right before our eyes (great balance of inside and outside play from Baby today, great offensive boards too), and Marbury’s passing alone was a thing a beauty (the Marbury/House lineup is good offensively—usually—but it’s defense isn’t so great—Marbury was vicitimized by Hermann and Hamilton and House waved at Bynum as well). And even though Marbury was clearly thinking too much out there, his presence alone was a stabilizing factor (he had the team’s 2nd best +/-). And TA was styling on the bench and was on his feet a lot trying to cheer the team on as best he could…good to see him again.

Mrabury was a +6 for the game and Rondo was in the minus. In the 2nd quarter the game was virtually tied when Rajon entered. By the half we trailed. 4th quarter we trailed by seven, enter Marbury. Rondo comes back in with the scored virtually tied at the 4:30 left in the game mark. We lost. Iwant to know what was the difference having Marbury on the court instead of Rondo? I keep asking myself why Doc consistently leaves Rondo out of the game in the game’s most crucial part, most of the last twelve minutes. That is the 2nd loss in a row in which we failed to function closing the game. Before that the Marbury-pierce- House unit was functioning well. Then Doc substitutes Ray Allen for Stephon. That was also the time we began to fall apart. They put tremendous pressure on our guards, We coukldn’t even advance the ball to set a play up. We tried and tried and only screwed up worse. Then Rajon comes in and fore a while it seems like our problems are solved but we cough up the ball, again and again. Horrible finish. I wish we didn’t freeze up like that but let us also remember that Garnett is not playing.I hate to lose, but recognize that the Pistons were beatiful to watch closing out that game. Very smooth and great defensively.

This may be my last post (or close to it)… wanna say thanks for the good times, such as they were. Go Cs!

like figuring out where to go when Rondo is on the fast-break instead of moving to exactly the spot Rondo’s trying to get to. This caused at least 3 collisions between the two, and each time Rondo was forced to discontinue his drive to the hoop and bring the ball back out. In time, hopefully Mikki gets out of the way.

DRJ1 is quitting blogging to pursue a rap career.

This team is vunerable right now without KG and especially without scal being the utility guy that he is being out too , having to start BBD, working in marbury and moore, pierce playing way to minutes with a bad thumb…we cant expect to win with all that and subpar games from ray and rondo….Hell we should be thankful that we got out of that west trip 3-2 and even got that win against the pacers and had a chance to win today…we need health, rest and practice time or we’re in trouble

.. after that sad, sad game. We were just flat outplayed.

I think the C’s literally played 5 against 6 in that Blazers game, lol.

Yeah Im willing to let this loss slide…but the clippers loss? ugh that was still unnacceptable, it definetly shouldve been another digit in the win column, and if they lose homecourt by 1 game that will be the game I personally look back to

So they’re barely .500 in the Barfbury era. Maybe wehn Gabe Pruitt gets off suspension we’ll have a backup guard who can bring it up against pressure and guard someone.

I thought the Pistons played a great game today. Some times it comes down to basics—the team who shoots the ball better wins. I thought the C’s were actually getting slightly better looks but they just couldn’t get the shots to fall. The Pistons are obviously a better team without Iverson, BTW.

Even though the Piston shot way more free throws I just can’t fault the refs on this one. I thought it was called pretty evenly. The Pistons took the ball to the rim more often and they were rewarded with more frees. Simple as that.

I agree with the coaching comments (the C’s seemed to repeated get stuck with bad match-ups). That plus the absence of KG (felt mostly on the defensive end) and a horrible performance from Ray ended in a loss.

But hey if its any consolation, Mikki More sucked too.

And while were at it, I have a question for Glenn Davis. Glenn, now that you are scoring a little, do you think you don’t have to rebound any more?

Big Baby needs KG there to scare him into his role.

is a joke. I guess it’s not Doc’s fault that he has Marbury in the game trying to guard guys who are dix inches taller than he is. Also, and you know I am not a homer, Marbury was fouled on at least one of those steals by Bynum.

There is a reason why even the barely mediocre Knicks wanted no part of this guy. You all want to think that Ainge got something for nothing. In fact he got NOTHING for nothing.

On defense he’s all grabbing, holding on and false hustle. Gabe Pruitt is TWICE the player Marbury is, and the only question is how many losses it will take before Rivers and Ainge admit it.

usually when we lose, i am annoyed, angry, frustrated,etc.—not today. sure ray was outplayed by rip, but don’t tell me ray was dogging it. he worked hard -his shots missed-rips’ hit. we win or lose based more on how rondo plays and he had a so-so game. if kg is here, we win big. mikki was out of it. perk was super. the pistons needed it more. rest pp coach.

How does it go?: Outcoaching Doc is so easy, even a caveman can do it. Is that how it goes?

we’re probably going on a long losing streak :(

… to suggest all we need to do is A) Get everyone healthy/off suspension, B) Work the new guys into the rotation and C) Hope someone among Pruitt, Walker or Giddens becomes somewhat of a contributor?
Anyone?

I think Pruitt plays better D than Marbury, but there is no way Pruitt brings more offensively at this point in his career. Pruitt is too timid and indecisive on the offensive end. Plus, he is always smiling. What is he always smiling about our there? I don’t trust people who always smile.

This one will be on Barfbury, not KG’s absence.

Brick,

Did Stephon steal your girl or what?? Let it go buddy. There are more fish in the sea:-)))

Smitty77

Gabe pruits shining moment came off an alley hoop pass that he almost threw down with one hand.. that is the only thing ive ever seen him do and he didnt even make the shot.. hes not nice

yeah bynym did strip marbury but he also almost did the same thing for rondo but rondo gotthe call.. Ive seen rondo make ulgier turnovers when the game is on the line so lets calm down brickowski