Gerry Callahan Reads CelticsBlog
Here's what Gerry Callahan (Herald) had to say about my article from yesterday:
The Celtics are just one game behind Cleveland in the race for best record in the Eastern Conference with six weeks to go, but many people are encouraging the defending champs to ease up, like Usain Bolt, down the stretch. Get healthy. Get rested. Get Bill Walker and J.R. Giddens in the game. And give away the edge that made it possible for this team to win it all last year.
Is that about right?
The headline on one Celtics fan blog yesterday asked, “Is second place that bad?” That noise you heard was Red Auerbach choking on his Hoya de Monterrey from beyond the grave. Maybe second place wouldn’t be so bad if this were baseball or football or Q-school. Sometimes in sports, homecourt advantage is just one small factor, like the direction of the wind or the hemorrhoids of the homeplate umpire. And sometimes the homecourt can give you a bigger edge than A-Rod’s cousin. You want an example? See Banner No. 17.
First of all, let me start off with the fact that I like Gerry's writing and I'm honored to have been mentioned in his column. On the other hand, (and I say this with a smile) would it have killed him to mention the blog by name? I know blogs are killing the newspaper industry, but we also link to their articles and increase author name recognition at every chance.
That aside he does make some good points and presents them in a clever way. I just disagree with his central premise. I think I made it clear that home court would be the ideal. We all know what happened in last year's playoffs. The first two rounds have been hammered into our heads by the local scribes all year long.
However, I still say that the reason last year's playoffs stood out so much was the fact that it was so unusual. How often do you see a series where no team picks up an away game? And by the way, ask Detroit if the Celtics can win on the road in the playoffs. Ask the Lakers. If the Celtics couldn't win on the road "Celtics fans would still be wondering if that Al Jefferson-for-KG deal was a good move" as Gerry would say.
Allow me to turn this around on Gerry.
The bottom line is the Celtics have a better chance of overtaking the Cavs in the next six weeks than they do of beating them in Cleveland in the playoffs.
Really? Is that so?
So a team down 5 players (including 2 of their top 4) has a better chance of finishing out the regular season with a better record than a full strength Cavs team? Or are you simply conceding that the Cavs are going to thump the Celtics in the playoffs and we need every last inch of help that we can get? I guess having the best starting five and a whole team with Championship experience doesn't create the same level of confidence that it used to.
So by all means, run Paul and Ray into the ground. Rush players back from injury. Go ahead and push the team past their limit on mile 18 of the Boston Marathon. Just don't come crying to me when they sputter and fail on Heartbreak Hill.
Understand that this is all a little tounge in cheek. I don't think our opinions are that divergent from each other. I understand that home court is important and I'm sure Gerry understands that this is a good team facing some injury concerns right now.
I'm not saying to pull a Usain Bolt (unless we are so far ahead of the pack that we could do so and still finish first - like we did last year). I'm saying Doc needs to bite the bullet and give the stars some added rest (which he admits he has to do). I'm saying that we can't rush the injured players back (which everyone says is the right thing to do). I'm saying the players on the court should always play to win the game but the fans should be prepared to let a few games slip and not hit the panic button.
But hey, I'm just an anonymous blogger. What do I know?
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by the way
another “Celtics fan blog” (Celtics Hub) agrees with me
http://celticshub.com/2009/03/10/the-great-home-court-debate-does-it-matter/
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
by Jeff Clark on Mar 10, 2009 9:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Of course they do:
that’s because you’re right :P
Honestly though, in short: injuries and fatigue should be avoided like the plague near the end of the season. Keep them benched a bit, lose home court and beat the poo out of them on their own turf in the play-offs.
I for one can’t wait [till the play-offs start].
- Dirk
by Kiorrik on Mar 10, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no question
There is no question that getting healthy is more important, none.
A full and healthy Celtics squad can beat team in the league on any court in the country.
Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk
by mcpu40 on Mar 10, 2009 9:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree...
However, I still say that the reason last year’s playoffs stood out so much was the fact that it was so unusual. How often do you see a series where no team picks up an away game?
Last year has turned home court into THE determining factor in everyone’s mind. People often ignore coincidence in sports. Last year was coincidence. I feel as though nobody thinks we would have won last year without home court. I completely disagree with that. The best team almost always wins in the NBA, and we were clearly the best team last year. Not to say homecourt isn’t big, but as usual Jerry Callahan is way off base here and Jeff you are right on. By the way kudos on calling him out for not mentioning the blog by name, that was filthy on his part.
SCOTT
by Vegas Scott on Mar 10, 2009 9:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t call it filthy, just not very nice. Now if he had copied Jeff without crediting the idea to this blog that would’ve been filthy.
by Reddo on Mar 10, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks
for getting my back guys!
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
by Jeff Clark on Mar 10, 2009 9:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You shoulda said ...
“Here’s what Gerry Callahan (hack for dying mass-media birdcage liner) had to say …”
Anyone who cares about the Cs knows that this is THE place to come. Can you imagine anyone saying “If you’re a Celtics fan you’ve got to read the Herald every day”? What a joke!
"People don't understand, if you can't live the rest of your life off one year in the NBA, you can't live off 21." -- Keon Clark
by Eeyore III on Mar 10, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeff, you make complete sense
I too think that hitting the playoffs with a limp is a waste of the season.
However, I also think the onus is on our remaining players not to concede, not to make excuses, and to play even harder and headier than ever before. Friday was a great example of such an effort. I can accept losses where we scrap tooth and nail, I cannot accept surrender from these Celtics. If we do that, we’ll hit the playoffs with a full head of steam regardless of whether we have the pole position.
There is enough talent left on the C’s to continue to win without killing PP and RA. I expect that they will continue to win.
by Thruthelookingglass on Mar 10, 2009 10:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
of course we need to rest or stars. the challenge for doc is to get the feel of the game and have the big 2 in the game at the right times. good luck doc.
by nazzbo on Mar 10, 2009 10:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
KC Jones
KC Jones won two titles as a Celtics’ coach. I love KC Jones. But for the most part, long-time Celtics’ fans don’t remember the KC Jones Era fondly. What they do remember is KC Jones running his starters into the ground during the regular season, and then the starters not having any gas in the tank for the playoffs, or, worse, injured and unable to play.
Killing yourself to win home court is a strategy not proven superior to going into the playoffs healthy, circling the wagons, and going tooth and nail to steal a road game.
I’ll take the latter approach over the KC Jones approach.
by OW_Holmes on Mar 10, 2009 10:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“I feel as though nobody thinks we would have won last year without home court. I completely disagree with that. The best team almost always wins in the NBA, and we were clearly the best team last year”
Well said, I’m in complete agreement. It’s like we won a championship and still are afraid to call ourselves the best team from last year. I have to wonder if this is a Boston thing… If we hadn’t had home court advantage, we would have won on the road! How can you look at a team with KG, paul pierce and ray allen and not think its better than any other team in the league??
by JunkyardDawg on Mar 10, 2009 10:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
JunkyardDawg
The Celtics played poorly on the road in the playoffs for two reasons. 1) They were learning how to play playoff basketball on the road; (2) they didn’t need to win on the road.
When they needed to win on the road. They did.
If we get healthy and stay healthy, this won’t change.
As someone wrote recently, I have a tough time seeing any team beating us four out of seven games, even if all seven were on the road.
Damn straight.
by OW_Holmes on Mar 10, 2009 10:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Callahan don't even KNOW Jeff...
And yet he gon come all up in here and try to Juuuuudge him? Callahan, please.
by Mencius on Mar 10, 2009 10:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it is a zero-sum game
I think the question itself is faulty. I don’t think they need homecourt to win, but I don’ t think the answer is to concede second, take the foot off the gas, and just count on a full and healthy roster being enough. As soon as the team starts to pursue things other than winning the game in front of them, things can get murky. As fans, we have the luxury of looking into our crystal ball and “choosing” which scenario works best. I think the team, whomever plays, has to go out and execute and try to win each time it takes the floor, for its own collective psyche.
As soon as they approach a game, and see their coach approach a game, as if winning it is not the #1 priority, something suffers from that. In the end, if the Celts do get healthy, which is not a guarantee whether PP or RA scale back 5-10 min of playing time a game or not, then yes, a full healthy squad is preferable to a banged up one. But in the meantime, they can’t purposefully treat the rest of the slate as a glorified exhibition tune-up for playoffs, rest guys as a winnable game goes up in smoke. Going .500 to the finish, but having everyone back, does not ensure anything. There has to be some positive momentum.
Many teams with such injuries never get back all the way, so it is important they keep pursuing things in the meantime as a championship club, and let the return of players sort itself out. Many a team has lost its edge “waiting” on the return of a star, only to fall short when that return does not solve all the problems. It is a delicate balance in trying not to burn out the remaining studs, but at the same time, keep up the intensity that will be needed. Too often, the idea is contrasted as an all or nothing proposition which it is not.
Keep trying to play for the best record possible, and try to get the team healthy, they are not mutually exclusive options.
by KJ33 on Mar 10, 2009 10:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Celtics Fan Blog.
Ugh give me a break with that characterization.
And…wow that point of view. I don’t see how one could make an argument that we have a better shot of winning homecourt with half a team than we do of taking one game in Cleveland.
When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"
by Green17 on Mar 10, 2009 10:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How I approach adversity measures the thirst in me
These next few days/weeks will display how strong and determined this team really is. I don’t doubt they’ve already displayed their heart during KG’s absence, but now they’re basically being plagued with injuries to an almost laughable degree. The fact that they haven’t already collapsed shows a lot of character.
by BOSPORTS on Mar 10, 2009 10:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who is Callahan, anyway?
Just another reporter for a “used to be ok” newspaper who needs a “blogger’s” help order to fill up his column. To be perfectly honest, Jeff, I haven’t read the Globe or the Herald in 10 years. Your opinion is much more important to me than a newspaper’s (you know what you are talking about, whether I agree with you or not) . The newspaper reporters today aren’t even knowledgeable enough to credit ideas directly…and this one wouldn’t even have taken any research time….
by thirstyboots18 on Mar 10, 2009 10:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There Will Be No Championship This Year Without HC Advantage vs. The Cavs
That’s the bottom line. The league will bend over backwards for a Cavs victory, and there is no way the Celtics can win a playoff series playing five against eight at the Quicken Loans Arena.
by Brickowski on Mar 10, 2009 10:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gerry, is that you?
would explain lots of things! – j/k
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
by Jeff Clark on Mar 10, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish I could say this doesn't worry me.
But I can’t seem to shake this fear and my distrust of the league office.
by Thruthelookingglass on Mar 10, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't you mean
I’m saying the players on the court should always play to win the game but the fans should be prepared to let a few games slip and not hit the panic button.
Isn’t it time to “Break the glass”, not hit the panic button?
http://www.celticsblog.com/2009/2/11/755585/in-case-of-emergency
by chunnamark on Mar 10, 2009 10:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think that's a false dichotomy - the one in the poll
You can get to the playoffs healthy and in good form, while not conceding HCA. We’re too close now, there’s time to reassess the situation and rest people in a week or so. During KG/Rondo absence, I would try to do whatever it takes to win the games; then we’d see what to do.
I think it’s very important to keep winning every game, especially with Orlando still very close. Historically, how many teams went through 3 series without HCA and won the NBA title? I’d say very, very few, no?
That said, it’s always annoying when MSM writers make references to the blogosphere like that one – anonymous, no link…. They’ll never learn…
by cordobes on Mar 10, 2009 10:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the poll...
asks what is more important – it doesn’t say that they are mutually exclusive
I think everyone agrees that we want both, I’m just asking in a hypothetical – if you had to chose one…
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
by Jeff Clark on Mar 10, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But why would you need to choose one?
I’d rather have both. I want to avoid having none. But these are all distortions. By making the poll you’re suggesting that the hypothetical is somewhat probable, and I doubt that’s the case.
I, for one, think it would be a tremendous mistake to play these games as they were late season pre-season games.
I don’t understand why people are thinking that resting Pierce some additional 6 or 7 minutes per game in the next week or so will have such an impact. That would mean, what? 40/50 minutes of additional rest? He plays more than 3000 minutes during a season, the effect of that resting will be close to nothing. Giving him a game off later on the season will save him almost the same floor time.
I’m not opposed to, at some point, to consider running bigger risks of losing games in order to give some players more rest. Right now, it’s time to keep the pressure on Cleveland and to keep Orlando away. When Rondo and Garnett return, we’ll have a clearer picture of where we are, we’ll have more quality players available to play and we can afford to limit some guys minutes without hurting the team competitiveness so much.
by cordobes on Mar 10, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok, feel free to not vote then ;)
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
by Jeff Clark on Mar 10, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe you could clarify it. For example:
Should the next few games be played like
a) They are late season pre-season games
b) They are important regular season games
A poll like this would make more sense, because it’s the decision that Doc will have to make and where people disagree.
Of course only a Lakers or a Cavs fan would prefer the Cs to have HCA but a tired and unhealthy team. But that’s not Callahan’s point at all.
by cordobes on Mar 10, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
CLE can win in Boston!!
You guys are talking about home court like Cleveland or LA can’t win in the Garden…!
LOL!
It’s like get home court and you can just show up for the games at home and get a W…
In case you guys don’t know this, LAL and CLE can each come here and win a game !!
Home court is not that relevant…
Being healthy at full strength is !!!
We can win in Cleveland! Stop looking in the past to predict the future and trust the game planing skills of our head coaches and the toughness of our players…
by drogbagarnett on Mar 10, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Of course we can win in Cleveland and LA, of course the Lakers and the Cavs can win here. What’s your point?
If anyone is of the opinion that there can be a chance that we’re good enough to win it all if we have HCA but not good enough to win it all if we don’t have HCA, I’ll have to laugh.
by cordobes on Mar 10, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cordobes
sounds like the same poll to me
Callahan says:
Pierce and Allen each played 45 minutes in Sunday’s loss, and Doc insists he’s not going to do that again anytime soon. He’s going to be careful, he’s going to be cautious. That’s all well and good until they’re on a plane to Cleveland for Game 7 of the Eastern Conference finals.
so he’s saying to keep playing Paul and Ray 45 minutes – which means he thinks HCA is more important than staying rested
I like my poll just fine, but if others don’t like it, no biggie
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
by Jeff Clark on Mar 10, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with Callahan there
But since when playing Paul and Ray for 25 minutes in the next 5 games, and play the games like they’re pre-season games, will guarantee or give better probabilities of having any kind of significant improvement in terms of rest and health for the playoffs? That’s what the poll suggests.
Of course is no biggie, but I hope Doc doesn’t buy this nonsense of playing reg. season games like they’re pre-season ones or that now is the time to start to worry about resting for the playoffs. If anything, now is the worst time possible for that.
by cordobes on Mar 10, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that we can still get HCA (without running PP and RA into the ground). Things have to break our way, but we should not just concede….the bench has to step up and show that they are worthy of minutes, and a few losses by LA and Cleveland (like the Lakers loss last night) would help, too. However, if that does not happen but we go into the playoff healthy, we do not have to beat them…they have to beat us…we are the champions until proven different.
Just because bloggers are not “paid professionals” does not mean they are not smart, articulate “writers” commenting, with a good amount of knowledge. This is why newspapers are failing at a record rate, while blogging has taken off. Reporters don’t feel they have to “report the facts” they think they have to “educate the masses” and that just makes them….bloggers of the print medium. I am not interested in a reporters “view” in sports, in finance, or in politics. Just the facts please.
by thirstyboots18 on Mar 10, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gregg Popovich begs to differ
It´s not a bad thing to give your stars some rest in a game you think you can win without them.
What is a bad thing, imo, is to play your starters only 20 minutes in the last two weeks before the playoffs start, only to see them struggling with their game when it matters (see last year´s playoffs).
They were on a roll, played great basketball, and then Doc rested them in the last games, since we blew tanking teams out of the water. I think it´s smarter to rest your team in February, and get them in the best shape possible in April.
by Casperian on Mar 10, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem is...
…that they can’t win games without playing Ray and Paul heavy minutes in the next few days, with Garnett, Rondo and half of the bench out with injuries.
Pop doesn’t have a chance of getting HCA. I don’t think last season playoffs are a good way of making your point – the Spurs were clearly tired during the Conference Finals, maybe Pop should have copied Doc and rested them more in the final weeks.
by cordobes on Mar 10, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, come on...
the spurs are known to let it slide in the regular season only to pick it up in the playoffs. They do it every year. Besides, Ginobili was injured for half the season. He was also injured in last year`s conference finals, and imo, that was the main reason why they lost to the Lakers. They didn`t look tired to me at all.
Doc had the chance to rest the starters pre-KG injury and didn`t. With a vet team, chances are you´ll face injuries sooner than later.
And why did Ray and Pierce play heavy minutes in games like Sunday, where it was obvious that we would need a nearly herculian effort to win?
My point is that you always have to see the context..
If KG was out for 1 week, I´d be ok with Ray and Paul playing heavy minutes. If this would be the start of the season, I´d be ok, too. But it´s a whole month towards the end of the season, and Doc himself said he should rest them more, as did Pierce. I´m simply concerned about the shape of these two in the playoffs, and feel as if this should be our priority.
by Casperian on Mar 10, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would you make that same question
had we won the game on Sunday? We came very, very close of winning it. If Doc had felt the chances of winning were extremely small, he’d certainly had rested them. But he was right, we had plenty of opportunities to win the game.
Because I can’t remember anyone questioning Doc after the Cavs game.
I agree with your point about the context, but I see it differently. I think that playing the next games as pre-season games is conceeding HCA, because we aren’t winning many that way.
I think that’s too drastic when there’s still more than a month till the playoffs and things are so close. KG will be back in a week, ditto for Rondo. I think we should focus on doing what it takes to win these games and then re-assess things later on.
by cordobes on Mar 10, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t feel bad about newspapers loss of readership. It’s natural. We can get the news from the comfort of our homes… all we could ever hope to read, for the mere cost of an internet connection. It’s just natural that they’d lose circulation.
As to paid sports writers and we fans, those who visit sites like CB are truly fanatics, and there are many, many fans that are at least as knowledgeable and articulate about the Celtics as are the paid scribes. In the end, we’re all watching and responding to the same stuff and expressing opinions about same. I don’t regard Callahan’s opinion as having any special value just because he’s getting paid to express it.
Lucky him for that. He ought to just count himself as fortunate rather than having an inflated sense of the value of his own opinion.
by Mencius on Mar 10, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gerry
Callahan is an embrace-your-ignorance racist. After i heard his opinion of Metco students- i’d pretty much heard all i need to hear from him on any subject.
No coincidence, he’s wrong on this one too.
by radja9697 on Mar 10, 2009 10:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gerry Callahan
Gerry is a joke of a human being. The Metco comment should have ended his career and his partner’s too. I have no respect for either of them. On top of being a waste of our planet’s limited resources Callahan also has no idea about anything related to hoops.
If he did know anything about hoops he would know that celticsblog.com is THE place to catch up on anything and everything related to the Boston Celtics. Or maybe he does know that and that’s why he trolls our blog looking for inspiration for his stories. Keep up the good work Jeff.
by 6oston's 6east on Mar 10, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With All Due Respect
I echo Radja’s sentiment. If I said what Callahan and Dennis said about Metco students I’d be out of job. Callahan is a pompous, bombastic Rush-light.
by The Real Large James 2 on Mar 10, 2009 11:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In fairness...
…it may be tricky for the Herald to mention CelticsBlog by name because their main newspaper rival stole that name for their blog.
Anyway, as everyone else is saying, this question isn’t a zero-sum game. Playing the kids more in the Orlando game and resting PP and Ray a few more minutes might have given the vets that extra bit of gas left in the tank to pull off the comeback at the end.
by MattD on Mar 10, 2009 11:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Take a lesson from the Spurs
If there’s one thing we’ve learned about the NBA playoffs from the Spurs, its that you don’t have the same streak effect as the NFL. In the NFL, getting hot in time for the playoffs is extremely important. Look at the Giants last year ago or Pittsburgh this year.
In the NBA a veteran team with championship experience and the right mindset can and often does turn the switch off and on effectively. I’m not saying that we should intentionally throw games but we shouldn’t kill ourselves to win them either. The NBA playoffs are long enough that you can play yourself into shape which is exactly what happened last year as well.
On an endnote, there’s been a lot of talk that the 1 seed’s path to the finals is easier than the 2 seed because you don’t have to play Orlando int he conference semis. This assumes that Orlando even makes it there. Detroit, which is Orlando’s matchup in the first round if the playoffs were to start today, could very well win that series. Also, from last year, the Celtics probably had it much tougher than Detroit in getting to the conference finals but they still won.
So to recap, winning all 18 of these last games and getting the 1 seed is really not all that important in the larger sense. Good NBA teams play at their best in the playoffs and I think that’s exactly what the Celtics are gonna do this year.
by Reddo on Mar 10, 2009 11:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree with your take, Jeff...
Callahan is simply wrong that we have a better chance of making up two games in the standings than we do of winning one game on the road. It can be done.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
by Roy_Hobbs on Mar 10, 2009 11:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Great job all around, Jeff
On the hoops-related points and the semi-tongue-in-cheek “blogger take.”
Well played.
-sw
Manuel Aristides Ramirez is the greatest hitter I've ever seen.
by Steve Weinman on Mar 10, 2009 11:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
by the way
I don’t know anything about his Metco comments (my head is usually buried in the sand about non-C’s related news) so my comment about liking his writing is only to indicate that Gerry typically has a way with words – which I obviously don’t always agree with
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
by Jeff Clark on Mar 10, 2009 12:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Have to agree with Jeff
With all these injuries, catching the Cavs may just be too much right now. Save PP’s and RA’s legs for the playoffs.
Re: the characterization of CB as a “fan blog,” I guess it is technically accurate, but it also tells me Jerry is a little out of touch. For many Celtics fans—I have to imagine thousands of us—this is our primary source of Celtics news and commentary. I really feel bad about what’s happening to newspapers, but I don’t think newspaper writers help their business by thinking of blogs as a “fan thing.” We readers are just fans, sure, but the people behind this site approach it like pros and put together a professional-grade product.
by Cousin It on Mar 10, 2009 12:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Our road woes last year were strange
A team with vets who’ve experience the playoffs had more trouble than teams of inexperienced role players with one all star. Not only that, but these inexperienced role player teams had just as much experience playing together as the Celtics did. So was it a mental thing? Delonte, Sasha, Wally, etc. were mentally stronger than KG, Allen, Pierce? It’s strange.
Going into the playoffs, you’d think a team with that many elite vets would be fine on the road during the playoffs and inexperienced role players would be more fragile.
What set the rest of the teams apart mentally from the Celtics last year? Have they overcome whatever that was? These are the things people need to look at when assessing how the Celtics will fair on the road this upcoming playoffs.
by BOSPORTS on Mar 10, 2009 12:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's called bad referring favoring the home team
Plain and simple !
Go back and check the last two games we lost against Atlanta and you will understand…
As for the NBA King on his own floor, no need to add anything…
As much as you guys want to avoid pointing this out, Refs in the NBA have that much power to influence a game…!
You have to play perfect to overcome a motivated home team, their fans’ support AND those bad refs…
We did it in Detroit and LA but it took them a couple of bad experiences to learn to fight through it…
Now for someone to come here and tell me this team can’t win away because they struggled in the first two rounds last year is ridiculous… Just ask LA and Detroit…
To me, it’s all about how much the Refs will be willing to discredit themselves in favor of the home team we play against that will determine our performances away from the Garden during the playoffs…
by drogbagarnett on Mar 10, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cavs healthy??
I don’t want to be a stickler but the Cavs have had their entire starting lineup on the floor exactly once since January 2. They are by no means healthy. They are healthier than they have been in 2 months, but its looking like they won’t have all 5 starters on the floor until the very end of the regular season.
by jek29 on Mar 10, 2009 12:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
fair enough
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
by Jeff Clark on Mar 10, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Without your health, the HCA does not matter all that much. Whoops, memories of 1987 popped into my head all over again. But we did lose a key game 5 at home against Milwaukee that made us play two more tough games than we had to back in 1987. HCA puts the burden on the team with it to keep it and not be labeled as playoff chokers.
Our situation is not ideal here with Rondo, Garnett, Davis, and Scalabrine down with injuries. I guess we’ll find out quickly if Stephon Marbury can contribute to the cause of getting the Number 1 seed.
Boston Celtics - 2008 World Champions
by QuinielaBox on Mar 10, 2009 1:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
One more thing
Trying to will your team to a road win in the playoffs is one of the most frustrating things a sports fan goes through when making a “career” out of being a fan of one team. But if your team breaks through in a hostile environment, it is one of the most rewarding and memorable moments. Hopefully, we can get one at the “Q” this year (it is my namesake you know).
Boston Celtics - 2008 World Champions
by QuinielaBox on Mar 10, 2009 1:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice read, Jeff. The print media continues to show how out of touch they are.
We need our guys healthy, so we’re gonna have to find a way to get HCA without them.
Winning in Cleveland on April 12th is becoming the most important game of the season. A win on the road would be a huge mental edge for us. And if we can stay within one game of them, we control our own destiny in a way and could clinch with that win.
There is a lot of basketball left to be played and I don’t expect Cleveland to win all of their remaining games. We have a lot of home games over the last 3 weeks of the season and we are not out of this yet.
Keep the faith. This is what UBUNTU is all about.
by D Dub on Mar 10, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No fans from any sport should even try to contest your statement Jeff
Is being Healthy at full strength and playing away more important than being injuries-plagued at less than half strength and playing home shouldn’t even be a question to wonder about for any fan in any sport !!!
BOS vs CLE is the only reason why this discussion is coming on our fan base..
We could not have home-court advantage last year and still beat the best of the West and the highly experienced second best of the East… So much for home-court…
I can even state here that we wont need home-court to raise banner 18 if everybody is heathly and we play at full strength! Mark my word and pray for no more injuries…
by drogbagarnett on Mar 10, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that's the problem
No fans from any sport should even try to contest your statement Jeff
Nobody did it.
However, play reg. season games like they’re pre-season games doesn’t mean you’re going to healthy at full strength; just like playing these next few games to win doesn’t mean you’re going to be injured plagued at less than half strenght.
Huge fallacy going on.
by cordobes on Mar 10, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeff- Take it from a guy who lives in the same town as Callahan and has dealt with him in the past.
If you disagree with him, then you’re likely making a brilliant point.
by Toine43 on Mar 10, 2009 3:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And doesn't he techincally have to mention you if he quotes you?
What ever happened to citing one’s source?
by Toine43 on Mar 10, 2009 3:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Callahan is suuuuuuuuuuuuuch a drama queen
Obviously he had to suggest that it would be impossible for the Celtics to beat the Cavs without homecourt advantage. Otherwise people might forget what a girly-voiced, sensationalizing little homo he is.
What amazed me about the article was that he forgot to talk about how Manny is the scum of the earth and how he’d like to spit in the faces of Pedro’s children.
by celticsmaniac on Mar 10, 2009 4:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Callahan
I like Gerry – he says what he thinks and his opinions are always well thought out even if you don’t agree with him. As for saying he knows nothing about BBall – you are a clown with no idea of his history if you think that.
At any rate the newspaper columnist is a dying thing – I think newspapers as an aggregator of news will thrive on, but distribution (hello Kindle 2) is going to change. Clearly they should have at least have provided the URL to the blog in the online version of the story. (Space constraints might trump form in print.)
by Brendan on Mar 10, 2009 5:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh wow! A Brickowski sighting!
Is that bellyaching downer machine back for good?
Hey Brick? where were you all these months? When the Celtics won it all were you in such negativity-fueled denial that you had to go and hide in the plains of siberia until you could find a new reason to guarantee failure? Did your brain just short-circuit with disbelief and your family had to send you to the nuthouse until KG got hurt so you could start forecasting doom again?
That’s all we heard for months from you
the KG trade = the Herschel Walker trade
KG is going to make about as much of a difference as Herschel Walker
hahahahahaha. what a dumb thing to say. you’re never gonna live that down.
by celticsmaniac on Mar 10, 2009 6:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
???
I’ve been here pretty consistently since the season started. And I never compared KG to the Hirschel Walker trade. I think you are confused, celticsmaniac, or perhaps just back from Uzbekistan?
by Brickowski on Mar 10, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never said Callahan knows nothing about basketball…I said I don’t care what he thinks. He appears to me to be a lazy sports reporter (columnist) who steals his columns from the blog (without giving proper credit) instead of finding original information. Will none of the personnel of the Celtics organization talk to him? Even if they won’t, that seems like a line for a column. Who, where, when…..they are avoiding him….
If he wants to blog, let him join and blog. If he wants to write columns he should develop his own material, or give proper credit to credible sources.
by thirstyboots18 on Mar 10, 2009 6:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Playoffs, playoffs, playoffs
This is the priority. Obviously we should and will fight to be in the best position at the end of the regular season, but nobody remembered the 66-16 when we were tied 3-3 with the Hawks last year. With all our players ready we are able to beat any team in the league
by greenwise on Mar 11, 2009 6:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
1987 Celtic Playoff and Injuries
http://www.nba.com/history/season/19861987.html
Hopefully history does not repeat. During the 86/87 season injuries hurt the Celtics depth and the Lakers won the championship. The Celtics had the starting 5 but Walton and Wedman were out with injuries. The above NBA article explains it. Health is important.
by CelticsWin on Mar 11, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

























