Scal Out For March, KG Jogging
Celtics forward Brian Scalabrine is slated to be out the remainder of this month after being diagnosed with post concussion syndrome. Scalabrine suffered his third concussion this season against the Nuggets on Feb. 23 and has not played since. He is currently resting and won't begin monitored basketball workouts until he shows improvement. Celtics coach Doc Rivers is hopeful that Scalabrine can return to action on April 1 against Charlotte.
Celtics.com has updates and quotes as well.
"I don't even know if I am supposed to tell you this. Looks like he's gonna be out a month. I think the return date is April 1st. That's not a joke. I didn't get into the evaluations, but they did say out a month. I was hoping maybe a week out, but the good news is he'll be back in time for the playoffs. That's a good sign."
On the other hand, he didn't have much to say about Garnett.
"He's moving a little better. He's jogging now," Rivers said, noting that there's no target date for Garnett to return to practice or basketball activity.
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Get Your Rest & Get Well
Get better, Brian. You can only help the team.
:( :( :(
Get well soon Scals.
I wonder if they shouldn’t just shut him down for the year. This stuff is dangerous, and April 1 is a bit late for getting PP rest as well.
for KG, “2-3 weeks” was the original estimate. 3 weeks would be the end of next week. Doesn’t sound like he will be ready by then which is going to leave basically no realistic shot at all for hc against Cle. Well I for one will be rooting for a miracle. One win at a time and we have to beat Cleveland.
If those are actual concussions scal has its a bad idea to come back this year.
Homecourt Advantage is Overrated
You kill yourself for 82 regular season games over something that the other team can take away in one playoff game. Let’s be the other team this year and focus on stealing home court during the playoffs.
Home court was over-rated in last years playoffs. It took 7 games for the 1st 2 rounds because RA was in the slump of a lifetime and the officiating in the Hawks series was atrocious. Still, the odds favor the home team and it’s an edge we’d rather have.
I don’t think anyone has any real idea about when Scals will return. This just tells him to not even try for the next few weeks. Too bad, as he really had become part of the rotation on merit, but concussions are not to be taken lightly.
Scary news about Scal
A diagnosis of “post-concussion syndrome” means that someone suffered a concussion but now a bunch of other things are happening that the doctors can’t identify or figure out how to treat. Serious stuff with implications well beyond a basketball career.
I've always thought that PCS was a diseased caused by
…judicial systems that incentive litigation.
You’re right, but generally PCS don’t last forever. Worst case scenario, his career is at risk, but if he had any kind of neurological damage they wouldn’t be calling his condition a PCS. But hopefully the symptoms will disappear at some point in the future, even if it takes a couple of months.
how can we be hopeful about him being here for the playoffs when he’s had 3 concussions in one season, this is career ending stuff.
by xmuscular ghandix on Mar 3, 2009 3:22 PM EST reply actions
I think there is some confusion over what appears to be incorrect terminology. Brian is, from what I can tell, experiencing post-concussive SYMPTOMS. Post-concussive SYNDROME is different. The first involves normal sequelae from brain trauma while the latter involves the persistence of symptoms beyond a three month period (not due to repeated concussions). Most symptoms from mild traumatic brain injury resolve relatively quickly (days to months depending on various factors). Typically, only 10-20% of folks have symptoms lasting longer, and as someone else mentioned, many of these folks have secondary incentives (litigation) that likely account for symptom persistence. Psychiatric overlay may account for much of the rest as the person believes symptoms are due to the concussion rather than depression or anxiety.
For several reasons, athletes are well known to recover quicker than the general population. They are in peek physical condition, have immediate access to the best healthcare, and most of all, they stand to lose a great deal if out for any extended period of time. They are notorious for attempting to return to soon due to the pressures placed on them, and are often more than willing to risk health if needed (pressure to use steroids is another example of this behavior).
As we (those in neurology and neuropsychology) have become more aware of the culture and pressures faced by athletes to return quickly, we are now pretty good at identifying problems and preventing them from returning too quickly (although admittedly basketball is WAY behind football and hockey in this regard). Thus, I doubt Scal came back too soon. The problem is he just keeps getting concussed after returning. The problem with that is every time there is a concussion; it causes a disruption in the brain’s ability to regulate neurotransmitters and to effectively metabolize glucose, oxygen, and other nutrients needed to work properly. Only rest over time can help the recovery process, although various treatments to increase recovery rates are being researched. There is a prominent theory that each concussion lowers your threshold to recover from a subsequent concussion, especially if not fully recovered from the previous one. Thus, each subsequent is concussion becomes more severe than it would otherwise be, and recovery takes much longer. There is also greater likelihood that symptoms will become chronic and greater risk of developing dementia later in life. End of diatribe.
ugggghhhh….we need KG…and even when he does come back hes gonna be far from basketball shape, and it takes him a while to do that…we’re vunerable without him especially with working in the new guys (locker room included)..the celtics are trying to find their chemistry all over again right now, and when the injured guys come back, they will once again try and get that chemistry back…this sucks…
get well KG, Scal, and TA
by TheAncientRivalry on Mar 3, 2009 4:50 PM EST reply actions
LET THEM REST. Get Moore, Pruitt, Walker, Giddens, and (God help us) Starhead some real time and see what we have. We’ll be a comfortable but more critical, rested and ready 2-seed. We can win at least one playoff game in the messiah’s arena if we are rested and deep.
why play pruitt and giddens now? …I see no reason for that, thats gonna help nothing for the playoffs.
You act like we’re 8 games behind cleveland, which if that was the case, I might agree…but we are a whopping 1 game behind them, theyre playing there best basketball, and we have no KG and are working in playoff contributors Moore, and ‘starhead’
by TheAncientRivalry on Mar 3, 2009 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
Great rundown on concussions Jon...
after reading all that I agree with above posts, Brian Scalabrine should not come back this year. Not because he may not be recovered, here’s hoping he will be fine (symptom free) soon enough. He should stay out BECAUSE HE MIGHT WELL GET HIT AGAIN< AND THAT ONE MAY BE ONE TOO MANY TOO SOON> and cause his brain to cross that “threshold” of permanent damage. From what Jon wrote about concussions, I think Scal would be vulnerable for six to 12 months while he gets back to solid again, not just symptom free.
But why guess as an amateur?
Let the Doctors decide what is best. For someone without specific medical knowledge or Scal’s case, I think suggesting he should either sit out X amount of time or come back sooner is ignorant. Of course it is a kneejerk reaction to say, “sit him out for the year” assuming that reduces his risk of recurrence. But if the medical info says he is no more likely for it to happen let’ s say , if he comes back April 1, than Oct. 1, why should he sit out?
Because armchair Drs. “think” he would be better off taking the rest of the year off? If the Doctors recommend that course, then he should sit out, but if he gets cleared medically, there should not just be some arbitrary decision that it “must be better for him” if the medical wisdom says otherwise.
of course the doctors should make the decision, not some "fan"
yet… in pro sports the pressures to get out there and earn your $ or contribute to winning or just to be “tough” are such that doctors sometimes decide on an “acceptable risk” level that is definitely not as conservative and over-protective as “general public” medical care. If you were not a pro athelete and got hit twice in a week in pickup games and had Scal’s symptoms and went to your HMO that doctor would definitely tell you to forget basketball for awhile.
































