I Miss Gino

Everyone remembers the Gino phenomenon of a year ago. When the Celtics were putting the finishing touches on a blowout win, Gino came on the screen and danced us home to victory.
It just seems like we've seen a lot less of Gino. With the injury issues and the post-Christmas hangover, our win-loss record is off of last season's remarkable pace.
But it isn't just the win totals that are down. Our point differentials are down from a year ago. Last year we scored 10.3 more points than their opponents. This year it is only 8. By my (very) rough count, we won 22 games by 20 points or more last year. So far this year, there have only been 9 games like that.
I'm not going to disparage a 19 point win that much, but honestly, why were the Thunder leading anytime after halftime? Why were they within 3 after 3 quarters? No disrespect to Oklahoma City..., no, scratch that. Disrespect intended; this shouldn't have been close.
With a tip of the cap to Dancin' Daylon, I really miss Gino! Blowouts are fun for everyone (except the other team of course). The coaching staff gets to sit back and relax (or start thinking of the next game). The starters get to rest. The young players get a no-pressure chance to play. Fans have the option of enjoying the rout or heading home early to beat traffic.
So, why aren't we seeing more blowout wins? Is this year's edition really not as good as last years? Is the rest of the league catching up with us? Or are the Celtics simply pacing themselves more?
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I think it’s a combination of four things:
1) The team is pacing itself / is playing with less energy, as it has less to prove this year;
2) The team isn’t quite as good as last year’s;
3) As defending champion, every opponent is gunning for them; and
4) Injuries.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
Roy not as good?
We have the exact same starting lineup as last year, with 3 distinct differences:
Ray Allen is a hell of a lot more comfortable with his role this year. Those long stretches of poor shooting no longer exist.
Rajon Rondo is obviously a lot better, we see that on a nightly basis.
Kendrick Perkins is making a strong bid for most improved player this year. He’s just been awesome.
So really it’s not the same starting 5. It’s better.
You can go back and forth all day about which bench is better, this years or last years. Bottom line is that as long as Powe comes back, the 4 man rotation of Marbury, House, Powe and Davis is more than sufficient to win a championship. I also think that rotation is easily better than last year’s bench. Posey was a great role player, but Glen Davis and Leon Powe have shown signs of being legitimate starters in this league throughout the year. I would not trade them for anybody right now.
The answer Jeff is of course injuries and pacing themselves. This team wanted to break records last year. This team wanted to win every game they played, simply out of principle. This year they understand that the only thing that really matters is a title. Doc’s done a great job and I am convinced this team is better than last year’s. However, there is no question that the Cavs, Lakers and Spurs are all improved as well. Keep in mind, that great regular season almost ended to the 8th seeded Atlanta Hawks. I think Doc has that in the back of his mind as he gets ready for the playoffs.
SCOTT
by Vegas Scott on Mar 30, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
agree with the above
it can’t JUST be the injuries, we were mostly healthy until recently
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
Healthy until recently? Well, wait a second:
1. Perk got hurt when we were, what 27-2?? And Tony was hurt soon after. And though almost all of us want to disparage TA, he at least caused Ray and PP to not play more then 40 minutes because Doc would use him. We went in a pretty severe tailspin
2. Perk came back and got healthy and we ripped off another 10 in a row, right?
3. KG then goes down at the all star break and he will have literally missed a 1/4 of the season.
4. The schedule was absolutely brutal. And about when it leveled off, KG went down.
5. A lot of other teams are clearly better.
Are we playing with less energy? I really feel we are trying as hard but are out of synch because of the injuries and new additions. I think the effort is there, but its the energy exerted by a man in a strait jacket trying to get free.
Although I am one of the posters who believes the posey move was a nightmare, I also agree that Baby, Powe, Rondo, Perk, Scal and Ray Allen improved so much that it made up for him. And I think Moore will help some and Marbury will help quite a lot.
Were we not as good? We were not as good because of injuries, scheduling, and integration. Come playoffs we will be better. A lot of players improved. We need to be healthy. Even if TA is available and Powe is healthy and everyone else is healthy, that would do it.
I am sure all of us fear KG is hurt worse than we know. Recall how he was limping in Dec. Its gonna be sickening if he takes games off in the playoffs. But lets think positive
By the way, I had a dream we were playing a 4th game against Cle in the playoffs this year.
And although I couldn’t see what the score was. it was clear that the game was in Boston, and we were up 3-0 in the series! In the dream I was absorbing that and realizing it meant we beat Cle twice in Cleveland. As I watched the game we looked totally dominant everywhere on the floor.
we’ll see
interesting
I’d like to see a breakdown of who was injured during each of our losses. If I have time I’ll do it, but if someone wants to save me the time I’d be happy to give credit where it is due.
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
update
Roy Hobbes took care of this in the forums, one of us will have a post on it in the next day or so
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
I agree…But im not sold on this team not being as good as last years…I think the schedule has been twice as hard, twice as many injuries, the other teams are twice as good, especially the top-tier teams, and the celtics arent playing with as much urgency in every single game..
Ill hold my judgement until after the season on which team is better, because you never know they could suprise us and win a title in less games then last year (more games then any team ever)
by TheAncientRivalry on Mar 30, 2009 8:07 AM EDT reply actions
Also, something Im suprised that hasnt been talked about is how the Celtics effected the NBA last season…they had a major impact on each team they met in the playoffs, and each team learned from last years champ
Atlanta- There whole rejuvinated franchise has to do with taking the celtics 7, where the young team learned to compete and play defense for 48 minutes, and taking the eventual champs to 7 spurred there momentum right into this season
Cleveland- Has so much confidence from taking the celtics 7 and a completely rejuvinated spirit, and hell-bent on getting homecourt and playing with 100% effort every night (sound familiar?) …there chemistry is as good as last years celtics or better, and the bench enthusiasm is straight from what they saw last year from the celtics..basically theyre trying to repliacate the celtics season with getting homecourt throughout and winning it all.. they took alot from last years celtics, and I think most of their confidence comes from taking the eventual champs 7
Detroit – it worked in an opposite manner for these guys…losing again in the ECF, Joe Dumars had enough, fired the coach and traded Billups…and have endured there worst regular season in a while
LA—- everything they do this season is an attempt at revenge against Boston while trying to take the blueprint of how we did it at the same time…there consistent season has everything to do with getting homecourt, because they feel they need it against boston
by TheAncientRivalry on Mar 30, 2009 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions
excellent points
I hadn’t thought of that before, but you are absolutely right
not only that, but you’ve seen a few teams really embrace the team-defense concept more based on the Celtics success
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
it also had an effect on how good cleveland and atlanta have been at home especially cleveland)
Sweeping the eventual champs at home will do that…everyone was laughingf when we couldnt win on their home floors…aaha now what?? cleveland is on verge of being one of the best home teams of all time
by TheAncientRivalry on Mar 30, 2009 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I think last year was an aberration, of sorts.
You had three All-Stars who were out to prove critics wrong; you had complimentary pieces (Rondo and Perk) who were out to prove that they belonged on the same court; you had a bench made up of folks who were wanting a huge payday (House and Posey) plus a few vets who were wanting their first rings (Scal and Brown); you had rookies who wanted to show they could ball with the All-Stars (Davis and Powe).
It was an electric combination, as we all saw. It worked exceedingly well.
So, there was going to be a let down this season. Personal and team objectives remain the same; but the urgency to prove something isn’t there.
Well said
Good to see you around, GLS.
-sw
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by Steve Weinman on Mar 30, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
lack of focus
One of the problems has been a lack of focus or certainly, less-intense focus.
They aren’t hellbent on beating every team into the ground from tip-off this year and they’re more complacent/careless with taking care of the ball. Put those two things together and you’ve got a team that allows other teams to stick around in the games longer which results in more games with closer scores —>some of which become losses that would not have happened last year.
Last night’s game was a perfect example. Lack of defensive focus in the 1st half and extremely sloppy ballhandling/passing. If the C’s focussed from tip-off, they would have put the game away before the 4th quarter.
having said that
looking at the box score, I still can’t believe that they only had 12 turnovers for the game when they had 10 just a couple of minutes into the 3rd quarter. Shows what taking care of the ball can do — less turnovers = more shot attempts = more points for C’s = less points (fastbreaks in particular) for opposition.
I agree 100% re lack of focus. this is a team that can beat cleveland and atlanta short handed but struggles to beat the Thunder and loses to teams like the clippers. There are way too many games this year where we didn’t start playing until th 3rd or 4th qtr. the 2 orlando games are good examples of that. One would think that this team would come out focused every night but without garnett that leadership isn’t there. Pierce never has been and never will be a rah rah guy. he can flat out take over a game but it’s rare that he comes out on fire. rondo also loses his focus and there have been a lot of games where he is too complacent. when he plays hard and is focused we win. I still hate his defense. What’s up with that???
You guys just wait till the playoffs start.
I’m betting that that’s exactly when the foot will be on the gass.
I’m hoping for a 4-1 series in the finals, Boston vs L.A. ofc.
- Dirk
Everything else aside
I’m confident that we can beat anyone in a 7 game series with this team. Can’t wait for the playoffs.
A sense of perspective is in order
Winning 60 games by an average of 8 points is pretty damn good. Continuing to compare this team to last year is flawed in so many respects. So many things are different, both within and outside, that it makes comparing the 2 teams in a vacuum almost impossible. If last year never happened, nobody would ever turn up their nose at 60 wins and 8 by 20 or more. Every year is its own journey, individually unique, and should be judged as such. This team does not have to be as good as or better than last year’s to win it all, just better than everybody else. If they don’t win it all, it doesn’t necessarily mean they aren’t as good, it could mean the competition is better.
Last year's starters vs. this year's
a way to measure how much of an influence injuries this year has had on MOV would measure the Celtics’ margin of victory for games in which the regular starters all played this year vs. last year. If the MOV is higher or comparable this year to last, then since the total MOV is lower this year, it would be reasonable to conclude that 1) the starters are better or comparable this year to last, and 2) that injuries have influenced total MOV this year (too bad basketball reference doesn’t have an easy stat to use for this…now I have to do this since I suggested it!)
or for the whole team
or MOV could be measured only when everyone in the top 9 in the rotation was healthy… imagine that Powe/TA/Scal being out right now also influences MOV…
Psychological Preparation
While injuries have certainly played a factor in the Celtics recent problems and that Doc is correct when he says the most important issue right now is to make sure his team is healthy by the time the playoffs begin, I think what he must also focus on is the fact that the team needs to prepare psychologically as well. The psychological factor is something that coaches who have won championships in the past (e.g., Red, Pat Riley, Phil Jackson) have always regarded as being essential for a team to repeat as champs. It will be difficult to repeat because we lost home court advantage, but this proves all the more how essential the psychological factor is just as important as being physically prepared for the playoffs. It will take a combination of Doc Rivers and Kevin Garnett to get this team “psyched” for the playoffs so they can battle for wins offensively and defensively both at home and on the road.
by Larry Joe Bird on Mar 30, 2009 11:30 AM EDT reply actions
Replacement for Scal?
Speaking of injuries, since Scal will not likely play again this year then is it possible for the Celtics to sign someone to fill his spot in time for the playoffs? I know a player is eligible for the playoffs if he was waived prior to the March 1st deadline. I think this rule also applies to other free agents. All they need is a veteran who can play solid defense, especially perimeter defense, which the Celtics have lacked this year.
by Larry Joe Bird on Mar 30, 2009 11:47 AM EDT reply actions
For the Cavs, every game is a cakewalk
They’re blowing out teams this year even more than we did last year. They’re playing super well. This could be their year (sigh).
"People don't understand, if you can't live the rest of your life off one year in the NBA, you can't live off 21." -- Keon Clark
The Cavs have been blowing out teams???
The claim that the Cavs having been “blowing out” teams of late is one that is seriously misleading. It is a myth that may be based on the fact that they have a 15-1 record in the month of March. While they have certainly managed to put together an impressive record during March, it is entirely wrong to say that they have been “blowing out” teams. In their last sixteen games (all in the month of March), the Cavs have won by ten or more points five times mostly against teams with losing records. In each of the five games they won by ten or more points, they played against two teams with winning records, Miami (39-34) and Dallas (43-30). The other three teams they beat have losing records. They are the Nets (30-43), Bucks (31-43) and the T-Wolves (21-53). Out of their 15 wins this month, they beat eight teams with winning records and seven with losing records. They have won by an average of 8.75 ppg in their 15 wins for March. They lost only once (to the Boston Celtics by a score of 105-94).
Fans were right to complain about the Celtics losing to the Clippers, but while the Cavs beat the Clippers during their match earlier this month they could only manage a four point victory against a team that currently has an 18-56 record. The Cavs also should have blown out the Clippers by over 20 points.
I am not trying to water-down the Cavs record for the month of March or their recent winning streak. They have accomplished what they wanted to do all along this season: win home court advantage. But to say that the Cavs have been “blowing out” teams of late and have been striking fear into their opponents is a misnomer that should not be applied to the them, especially when teams with losing records like the Clippers (18-56), Kings (16-56) and Knicks (29-34) played competitively against the Cavs this month losing only by 4, 3 and 5 points.

























