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KG Shut Down For Now

Ok, maybe now you can worry just a bit more.

Quotes from today's practice: (via Celtics.com twitter)

Doc on KG: "After watching him today we're just gonna shut him down until the soreness goes away. Our goal is the last three games."

Perk on KG: "I could tell he's not 100%, he was limping, but he's a warrior. I'd take a 70% KG in the playoffs but we want him healthy."

I'm still hopeful (though no longer confident) that KG will be back and ready to play at somewhere near full speed by the playoffs.  Here's what concerns me more at this point: KG, Powe, and Tony Allen might all return in time for the playoffs, but there's no guarantee they'll all be 100%. And even if they were, the bigger concern is that it will take a little bit of time for them to get back into the flow and for Doc to fix his rotations accordingly.  That's time we don't have and places a huge burden on Doc to play coach and doctor at the same time.

Another quote from Doc (Globe):

"I just think we've got to be smart about it," Rivers said Sunday. "It's just like when somebody says somebody is going to be back in a week or two, that's not a guarantee. If a guy gets sore, do we play him because we say he's supposed to be back playing? You just use your common sense."

Interesting comment on Ray and Paul (WEEI):

As for others who just became more important, Rivers knows the burden falls to Paul Pierce and Ray Allen.

“We’re not going to play them more minutes but clearly there’s more pressure on them,” Rivers said. “I understand that. That may be a reason to cut their minutes a little bit as well. Bottom line is we’re going to be healthy when playoffs start and we’re going to do whatever we can to have the legs.”

CelticsHub revisits an excellent interview with a knee expert.

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Copious amounts of re-tweeting going on today, huh, Jeff?

In a span of five minutes, I think you, me and RedsArmy all wound up reposting that.

Social/news networking tools continue to expand…

-sw

Manuel Aristides Ramirez is the greatest hitter I've ever seen.

by Steve Weinman on Mar 31, 2009 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

the Celtics are getting good at dispersing the news quickly

they beat Dickerson to the punch this time, and the Globe hasn’t even updated their blog yet

"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V

by Jeff Clark on Mar 31, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

semantics

when KG got hurt, everyone was worried
when he was diagnosed with a sprain and the timetable was set for a few weeks off, it made me feel a lot better
when he came back on a “pitch count” I was confident he’d work into shape
now with this setback (yes, it is that now), it has me worried again

"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V

by Jeff Clark on Mar 31, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough, Jeff. My posts will indicate I am frustated with how minutes have been handled as well as KG's situation,

but there have been surprises both ways. I was worried in Dec when he was limping down the runway. I was worried when Perk hurt his shoulder. In perks case, he really does seem ok. And ray has played too many minutes but he seems ok, too. KG could have been ok

by wahz on Mar 31, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe

if he gets pushed back even further, I’ll be the first to admit I was wrong to not worry

"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V

by Jeff Clark on Mar 31, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not worried but...

I’m beginning to wonder if the staff isn’t just retarding the announcement that KG’s injury may be worse than expected. Still, considering that he did get back on the court just after his injury in Utah, and that he played a couple of games since, where he seemed healthy, I think there are just precautionary measures and I agree with it.

I hope KG will be able to get back in the rythm of the team for the playoffs tough, because this long absence could bother him.

by Drucci on Mar 31, 2009 12:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Yep, I'm worried a little

We’re probably going to go into the playoffs with little or no time to get our starting five back on the same page chemistry-wise, which means that our typical Celtic defense might be missing in action…

We have enough juice to win as an offensive team (which is what we are without KG) in the 1st round, and possibly the 2nd round, but we’re going to need everybody on the same page and playing Celtic defense by the 3rd round. And it doesn’t sound like it’s probable KG will ever by 100% this season. That does complicate things a bit…

Bottom line: we’re going to have a limited time with everyone healthy and we’re going to have to jell super fast.

by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Mar 31, 2009 1:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m a little afraid to be honest.

by RebusRankin on Mar 31, 2009 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I would really hate

for Gerry Callahan to be right about this

"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V

by Jeff Clark on Mar 31, 2009 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

...or him be right about anything for that matter.

Oh and Celtic “fan” Bill Simmons also conceded the title to the Cavs in his mailbag today.

When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"

by Green17 on Mar 31, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

...to be later referred to...

…as a reverse jinx, no doubt. :-D

-sw

Manuel Aristides Ramirez is the greatest hitter I've ever seen.

by Steve Weinman on Mar 31, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

why did he practice today

I thought he wasnt’t practicing until Thursday? Why/When did that change

by GaBerkowitz on Mar 31, 2009 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah...

The only thing that I can think of is this: they looked at the schedule (2 games over 10 days) and figured that if KG wasn’t right today, that he should be given as much time before the playoffs before begin to get healthy…

by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Mar 31, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s done. It shouldn’t take two months to heal from a strain/sprain whatever

by LarBrd33 on Mar 31, 2009 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

agreed.

i wish i sided with the optimists on the board, but from a medical perspective, this is bad, bad news.

the full quote, according to the globe is this:

“After watching him move today, we’re just going to shut him down,” said Celtics coach Doc Rivers at practice this afternoon. It probably won’t be for the year. He’ll probably play by the end, last couple of games, or last three games. It’s just not progressing the way we anticipated it would progress."

“It probably won’t be for the year”. and we’re supposed to be feel good?

by csung on Mar 31, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

not good

you know what’s next, right? done for the season…Im in full-blown panic mode, and Im not sure why other’s aren’t(especially on this site)

by OutofServicePervis on Mar 31, 2009 1:28 PM EDT reply actions  

here's what concerns me

KG, Powe, and Tony Allen might all return for the playoffs, but there’s no guarantee they’ll each be 100%. And even if they were, the bigger concern is that it will take a little bit of time for them to get back into the flow and for Doc to fix his rotations accordingly

"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V

by Jeff Clark on Mar 31, 2009 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, Doc's rotations

Good point, Jeff. Doc’s going to have WAY too many options come playoff times, and he’s probably going to go with his gut alot, since there will be little practice time or recent game experience to gauge progess…

You can expect KG to play…if he CAN play…but Powe and TA might get squeezed out or receive only spot minutes…

The terrible thing is: we’re not going to have barely any time with the entire team together to build chemistry…we’re going to have to use the playoffs to do that! The margin of error just went razor thin on us.

by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Mar 31, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

not worried about too many options

you can bet Walker goes to the bench and if we have Powe and KG in the lineup that Moore becomes a situation big man at best

however, imagine if Powe looks sluggish, does Doc stick with him or insert Moore? if KG has a limp but fights through it, how much will Doc risk his long-term health by sticking with him in the playoffs? these things give me pause

"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V

by Jeff Clark on Mar 31, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

If everyone was healthy and had a couple games to play before the playoff began, I’d be much more confident in Doc’s ability to handle things. Historically, he’s struggled with too many options, or having options that don’t significantly differ from one another. Sluggish Powe versus Moore is one such conundrum; rusty TA versus rookie Walker is another.

KG, I think, will gut it out like the warrior he is…Doc’s challenge (and he’s got a couple weeks to think it over—Doc, I really hope you think it over) is how to get the most out of KG while still limiting his playing time somewhat…realistically, KG shouldn’t be expected to give more than 30 minutes a game the rest of the year, except under dire circumstances. What will Doc do?

by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Mar 31, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

my prediction...

we get #18 without KG. Take that LA!

by hpantazo on Mar 31, 2009 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

My guess

KG sprained or seriously sprained his MCL. That’s a 2 month injury. That’s my take on it. 18 wasn’t coming our way anyway this year.

by richardlight on Mar 31, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

That is disappointing news.

by Who on Mar 31, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

woah woah everyone

go look at the replay, his strain/sprain did not look bad whatsoever. given 2 months off, while still working it back into shape should give plenty of rehabilitation to Kg and his knee. however, did anyone maybe think of this a ploy to maybe ease the eastern conference’s worries of Kg in the playoffs? but then bring him right into the playoffs 100% and tear s*** up? while everyone is thinking he’s only 70% or whatever??? Doc is a smart man and it wouldnt suprise me that he would continue the trend of the mid season-kg-injury like last year with his abdominal strain, which eventually lead to banner 17.

you never know people! keep the hopes high
go celts

by Rondo-ism on Mar 31, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

You can rationalize anything...

That sure could end up happening…and I’ll never count out KG or his ability to play in pain, especially come playoff time…

That said, Doc or Danny don’t play games like that…KG’s sitting because he’s hurting and HCA is no longer in play…

Lost in this news of KG is the news of Scal—he’s still having headaches, which makes his return this season highly unlikely…which sucks, because in some ways Scal was the best KG-replacement we have…

by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Mar 31, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think more and more...

scal could be done for his career. This is the sort of thing that even if he comes back it’s only going to take one serious hit and he’ll be concussed again, risking permanent damage. I mean the man steps in for charges on the regular so I just don’t see how he can safely play NBA basketball.

Then again, I’m not a doctor, I’m just basing this on my observations of other pro-athletes who have had multiple concussions.

by WillyBeamin on Mar 31, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

If basketball were football, maybe...

Ryan Church of the NY Mets suffered similar concussion problems last year for the Mets…and he missed like 2 months during the season and was pretty rusty once he came back…but after an offseason of rest he’s back and as good as ever. I think Scal can make a similar comeback after a summer of inactivity…

Concussions in basketball are rare and once Scal gets enough rest and the headaches quit occurring and he can work out, run, and play basketball without getting headaches, I think he’ll be cleared to play. I expect he’ll be back good as ever next training camp….

by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Mar 31, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

baseball and basketball

are two very different things when it comes to head injuries.

when, if ever, does a baseball player take an impact like a basketball player does when they take a charge?

I can only think of running into a fence… which doesn’t exactly occur every game, scal taking a charge (or trying) does.

by WillyBeamin on Mar 31, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

The point was, they're rare in both sports

Ryan Church’s concussions were MUCH more violent than Scal’s…one involved an outfield collision (two players running full speed into each other) and the other one was a play at 2nd base where Church slid into the shortstop’s knee.

Sure, you fall down some in basketball, but head injuries are relatively rare. The important thing is that Scal takes the requisite amount of time to rest and recooperate. He came back too fast last time…he shouldn’t have been practicing the day after he got elbowed by Dirk and then he should have waited the recommended 6 weeks before coming back from the 2nd concussion. With 4 months plus of rest his brain, he should be ready to go next year.

by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Mar 31, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it too late to start tanking for a draft pick?

(Yes, I know we traded it.)

All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino

by Roy_Hobbs on Mar 31, 2009 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

hopefully we have round 1 of the playoffs

to round into form… because at this point we are not going to hit our stride before the playoffs start.

I’ll venture a guess and say this year’s first round match-up won’t be as talented as Atlanta was last year, who came out and proved last year was no fluke. So hopefully we have that luxury of winning in 5 or 6 games while getting our “swag” back.

by WillyBeamin on Mar 31, 2009 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I keep thinking back to his first 2 games back...

Anybody else out there now questioning the decision to play KG in back-to-back games against the Spurs and the Grizzlies? It was after the Grizzly game that KG began complaining of soreness…

Why play him in a back-to-back situation that early in his return? Didn’t make sense at the time and now it seems quite short-sited.

by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Mar 31, 2009 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Yep. I’ve been thinking about that a lot. Hopefully this just means he aggravated it a little. And they are taking advantage of the schedule to get him some extra rest. If that’s the case the big problem now is they won’t have any chance to build up his minutes. I wonder if Danny and Doc are cocky enough to use the first round to build him up—i.e. not play him his usual 33 (to 40) minutes.

by Berkcelt on Mar 31, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

KG was cleared to Play, and why wait to find out what the knee is gonna do?

Doc is not a doctor. he relies on one of the finest medical teams in all of pro sports and when they tell him “He’s ok to play” then Doc decides what, whether or not to believe them?!? no, he plays KG. If the knee isn’t fine, it’s not on Doc, it’s on the medical staff.

by jyrecelts on Mar 31, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Slip Slidin Away

“You know the more you near your destination the more you keep slip slidin away” – Paul Simon.

Worrisome and then some. Have to keep the faith

This news just in also: Scal just woke up from a nap on the couch and is hungry for lime ice cream…..I’ll keep you updated.

Also this breaking news: Mikki Moore (also know as the Ganja Foul Machine – GFM) just got out of his car and fouled a pedestrian across the arms. He has three fouls today already.

Is it Soup Yet?

by Master Po on Mar 31, 2009 1:43 PM EDT reply actions  

MASTER PLAN

This is all part of the master plan…
Moore will get more minutes now…and really get it going.
The sky is NOT falling.
Don’t worry, ’bout a ting…cuz every little thing is gonne be all right.

Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk

by mcpu40 on Mar 31, 2009 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Amen

More time for other Celtics to step up their games. KG will come back just in time to surprise teams who are counting him out.

Perk and Powe... the Next Big Thing

by FLCeltsFan on Mar 31, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why did we give KG such a large contract? At this stage of his career and the inevitable injuries he shouldn’t be making 20 to 25 mil. Al makes half as much (I know he’s hurt too) and he’s not half the player. Let’s hope KG can come through this yr, b/c next yr the chances of injury to Ray/Paul/KG will get only higher.

by johnnyrondo on Mar 31, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

The answer, my friend

Is hanging in the rafters.

Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk

by mcpu40 on Mar 31, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

what he said

"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V

by Jeff Clark on Mar 31, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

a ten year deal

would have been worth every penny

"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V

by Jeff Clark on Mar 31, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not 20-25 anyway

His contract goes down pretty significantly starting next year…per shamsports, it’s roughly $16.5M next year, then $19M and finally $21M in the final year. Altho it’s too bad in a way they didn’t have it descending in value instead of ascending. It seems like it would be more in line with expected production.

by Berkcelt on Mar 31, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

in theory

the cap should be going up in future years, which might be why they do that

of course the economy changed that this year

"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V

by Jeff Clark on Mar 31, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

gee wiz...

we won a title man… worth every penny.

Big Al just tore his ACL at the age of 23… KG has a knee sprain at the age of 32? during a career in which he has sustained no major injuries…

by WillyBeamin on Mar 31, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

KG was under contract last yr, so this new contract didn’t buy the title fwiw

Yes once you get into your 30’s injuries become more nagging

by johnnyrondo on Mar 31, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

the trade would never have happened

without this new contract in place, so that’s a mute point.

by WillyBeamin on Mar 31, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bingo.

Also not sure if this is clear, but this year is part of KG’s old contract, not the extension.

by Berkcelt on Mar 31, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol Drucci… and not a bad idea

by johnnyrondo on Mar 31, 2009 1:55 PM EDT reply actions  

All this

is just to throw off teams that are scouting us for the playoffs. They are all thinking that KG won’t be back for the playoffs and so are getting over confident. Then, like a knight in armor, KG will come back and wipe the floor up with all of them. KG will be back and he will be healthy.

Perk and Powe... the Next Big Thing

by FLCeltsFan on Mar 31, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I doubt it is a ploy, although I would like to believe so. Keeping KG out means that the main 5 may not have their rhythm come playoffs, which apparently was one of the reasons they struggled against Atlanta last year.

by jurrasicearl on Mar 31, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

SIT OUT

I wouldn’t be surprised if he sat out round 1…
Without KG – The C’s, if POWE can come back, can take Miami, Philly, Detroit, or Chicago in the 1st round.

Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk

by mcpu40 on Mar 31, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Time to rest Ray, Paul, and Rondo too

OK, so KG’s out till the 12th of April at best, maybe longer. I think we should treat those last 3 games as—ideally—our playoff warm up games.

In the next four games, then, I’d systematically rest Paul, Ray and Rondo. Since the #2 seed is still in play, I wouldn’t hold any of them out of the Atlanta game this Friday and then make sure to just rest one of them in the other 3 games, giving us a decent chance to win all those games….Personally, I’d rest Rondo this Wednesday and then Ray next Wednesday and Paul on the 10th of April. Since TA is expect back on the 8th of April, resting Paul and Ray in the games next week would open up increased playing time to force feed TA some minutes in his return.

And then when April 12th comes, we try to play playoff worthy rotations (minus KG’s minutes, which will still be limited) and attempt to build chemistry, timing, and good flow heading into the start of the 1st round.

by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Mar 31, 2009 2:01 PM EDT reply actions  

The Sky Just Fell Down!!!!

…seriously lets stop freaking out people.

When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"

by Green17 on Mar 31, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

It's a definite complication

But I’m sure the majority of us still like our chances…

by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Mar 31, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

every single series is going to be an uphill struggle with or without KG. No freebies this year. We could be out in the first round. and then we have to play Orlando, Cleveland and LA on the road. I’ll be impressed if we beat Orlando.

by LarBrd33 on Mar 31, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

PREPARE TO BE IMPRESSED!

Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk

by mcpu40 on Mar 31, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Twitter reports video on this coming soon on Celtics.com

No doubt it’ll be full of official media catch phrases.

by illantari on Mar 31, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Win anyway

It’s obvious that KG’s injury was never just “muscle strain”. And it’s probably not a simple sprain, or they would have just said that (plus there was no discernible lateral or twisting motion on that play). Something else is going on, which the team has chosen not to talk about. That’s their modus operandi.

As for this newest story line… If KG was out for 6 WEEKS and is still not right, another 8-10 DAYS ain’t gonna fix it.

It’s not clear to me that 50 percent of KG, or even 70 percent, is as valuable to this team as a 100% Baby/Powe combo. Our D takes a hit – but not a huge one if everyone does his job in the team scheme. And we lose 1-2 alleyoops per game. Oh, and a lot of chest thumping and $#&@^$ bombs. What we gain is ENERGY, hustle, and recently, a lot of double-doubles.

We better gets used to the idea that we may be going into battle without KG, certainly not with a 100% KG. If the Cs can still win it all… that will be something to see and remember forever.

by DRJ1 on Mar 31, 2009 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Twitter

Am I the only one sick of this word yet?

Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk

by mcpu40 on Mar 31, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

And Tweet is worse

And I’m sure there will be worse ones in the future…

by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Mar 31, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hated it all along

… sounds like a bug that keeps buzzing around your ear, won’t leave you alone

by DRJ1 on Mar 31, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope the team is just being overly cautious. I pray KG (and all the others) will back and healthy to contribute in the playoffs but if he can’t so be it. I don’t believe this year is the team’s last chance to win so I wouldn’t want him rushing back and getting seriously hurt. Injuries are sadly a part of the game. Celtics have a number of strong willed players who’ll continue to play on for the championship and I’ll just be here cheering for them to repeat anyway.

by twinbree on Mar 31, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

What we have:

Is a fighter’s chance and the fact that everybody is now going to count us out. We really haven’t had much to motivate us this year and perhaps KG’s injury—and the subsequent lack of respect regarding our championship aspirations—will be what brings the best out of us. Guys like Rondo, Perk, Baby, Powe, House, and Marbury still have big chips on their shoulders and each and every one of them will have to play better than they did last year. Throw is some wildcard moments from TA, Walker and Mikki Moore and gut check moments from KG, Paul and Ray….and we have a storybook ending, part 2.

by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Mar 31, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice post...

…I agree in full

Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk

by mcpu40 on Mar 31, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly!

That’s what I wanted to say. Only you said it so much better :-)

by twinbree on Mar 31, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

hope you are right

"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V

by Jeff Clark on Mar 31, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks, y'all

What I forgot to add: we know what it takes to win. We all remember how hard it was to win it all last season…the Cavs will have to face that same sort of challenge this season. Are they mature enough to handle it? MJ didn’t win until he was 29…LeBron’s only 24.

by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Mar 31, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

He'll be fine

It took him no time to be vintage KG when he came back for limited minutes. Give him max rest time.
I’m more worried about Leon. There’s very little news about him, or am I missing it?
Good to see Tony on bench. He will be ready shortly
Scal….I’ve been a long time supporter (and that wasn’t easy at times)….but I suspect his career is over. He may be back in Camp but his next dinger won’t take much. Very little hope to see him again this year. Too bad. He was quieting his critics.

by Wildblu1 on Mar 31, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice post Salmon

I agree with you and I trust the team, I’m sure the Celtics will fight hard and get the results for their efforts.

by Drucci on Mar 31, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions  

2009 is the new 1987...Celts cannot get a break!

Bias dies…Walton suffers career ending injury…McHale plays with broken bone in foot in Finals…Parish sprains ankle in Finals

KG…Powe…TA…Scal…

How come Kobe or LBJ never get injured for a change?

by Title 18 on Mar 31, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Nodody's dead yet!

Let us not tempt the gods with such talk.

by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Mar 31, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

That never works...

And since when does anyone want the other team’s best player to get injured? That’s crap. I want Kobe and Lebron to stand there and take their beating like a man. And as a fan of basketball, I’d never cheer for any player to be injured…I just want them to lose.

by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Mar 31, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Way to go

Way to go, turning a joke into serious pontification. But ok, let’s go there. Say it happens that KG, our best player, is out of action in the playoffs — a random twist of fate that puts us at a major disadvantage. Are you honestly saying that you would not be even a little pleased to hear that the best player on the opposing team was also out, so that the playing field is leveled? Really? If so, you are certainly holier than I.

by DRJ1 on Mar 31, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't be sad

But I’m not going to spend any brain power hoping/thinking it might happen either.

by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Mar 31, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely, SaMP

Agreed completely.

-sw

Manuel Aristides Ramirez is the greatest hitter I've ever seen.

by Steve Weinman on Mar 31, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least Marbury is playing better

Wasn’t that the company line yesterday?

This is a disaster. The 70% KG that Perk talked about is not enough. I can’t believe we have to worry about the 1st round, whether it’s Philly, Miami, or Detroit.

by csung on Mar 31, 2009 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Seriously, I'm not sure what your issue is with the Marbury piece from yesterday

Not a word of that suggested that Marbury having a good game against OKC was some cure-all for this team’s health and other issues. It was merely an assessment of what had happened on Sunday night.

I don’t get the sniping about that.

-sw

Manuel Aristides Ramirez is the greatest hitter I've ever seen.

by Steve Weinman on Mar 31, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm not sniping about the marbury piece

or at least that’s not what i meant to be doing.

i’m just not celebrating the fact that marbury had one good game against a terrible team after a dozen bad ones.

the rest of the marbury piece was on target. but it’s pretty insignificant compared to today’s news.

by csung on Mar 31, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

No doubt it's insignificant compared to this news

I simply didn’t understand the relevance of bringing it up again.

That said, fair enough – water under the bridge. Thanks for clarifying.

-sw

Manuel Aristides Ramirez is the greatest hitter I've ever seen.

by Steve Weinman on Mar 31, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

misplaced frustration

is another way to describe my post here.

i’ll try not bring up the marbury thing again….unless you post about him after an otherwise unimpressive win. :-)

by csung on Mar 31, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

No worries, we're all good

Although I didn’t write back in the other thread, I just saw and appreciated your clarification over there as well.

As a quick glance through the thread (or in the forums will indicate), seems like we’re all a bit testy today.

-sw

Manuel Aristides Ramirez is the greatest hitter I've ever seen.

by Steve Weinman on Mar 31, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Self included*

-sw

Manuel Aristides Ramirez is the greatest hitter I've ever seen.

by Steve Weinman on Mar 31, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

sigh

This is not good news. I’m not so much worried about KG — he will be fine. I’m worried about our continuity as a team. We have no time to hit a stride on our way in to the playoffs. I’m not incredibly worried about the first round, it’s that second round matchup with Orlando that’s going to be the problem. If we’re not playing Celtic defense with all hands on deck, then we’re going to be in big, big trouble.

by dobbs on Mar 31, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions  

1987 Here we go again!

I knew when they sat him out the last few games something was up. All of a sudden he comes back in limited minutes , then were going to sit him. Oh basketball Gods, be gentle and kind please heal our boys for the playoffs.

If the Cowboys could only play like a team with passion and unity like my beloved
Boston Celtics, I would be happy.

by Captain Comeback on Mar 31, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I am worried…hopefully he can come back for the playoffs…

by thebirdman on Mar 31, 2009 3:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Whatever

Obviously things aren’t going our way. Can’t kill Paul and Ray because of all the unjuries. I say now we just play jazz — i.e. give Ray and Paul rest while playing everyone else. No use in killing ourselves over seeding. If we’re not healthy, we’re not going to win. No matter the seed.

by BOSPORTS on Mar 31, 2009 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Not suprised…Ive seen this coming, and Ive been concerned about KG all year quite frankly

by TheAncientRivalry on Mar 31, 2009 4:11 PM EDT reply actions  

1987

While we all want the C’s to repeat, realistically, if the C’s are able to repeat 1987, that will be quite an accomplishment, only a failure in that it won’t be winning it all again. After all, the C’s made it to Game 6 of the NBA Finals, to hear people today, getting out of the 1st round will be an accomplishment. And even with all those troubles, that team was one bad out of bounds call and Magic baby hook from tying up the Finals 2-2 with Game 5 in Boston.

by KJ33 on Mar 31, 2009 5:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed…I hear alot of people say “1987 all over again” …in reality I’d be shocked if this team got to game 6 of the NBA finals (and that would be quite the accomplishment) with no KG or KG limping up and down the court and alot of other minor injuries

by TheAncientRivalry on Mar 31, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not 1987, I refuse to accept that

Game 6? Without KG, the C’s are not making it to the NBA Finals.

In 1987 Bird, McHale, and Parrish were playing more mpg because of some key injuries (Walton, Wedman).

In 2009, wait, Allen and Pierce are playing too much because of some key injuries.

In 1987 LAL won 65 games and BOS won 59 games. LAL had home court advantage.

In 2009, wait, it could be very close to that again.

in 1987 LAL breezed through the West, practically sweeping every round. BOS needed 7 games for the 2nd and 3rd round in the Eastern Conf.

In 2009, wait, it looks like that could happen again.

in 1987 there was a critical “bad out of bounds call” in game 4 at BOS.

in 2009, wait, there are bad calls against BOS all the time because clearly David Stern wants King James and Kobe to go at it in the Finals.

Nope, it’s not 1987 all over again. It’s 2009. And things will be different (wink).

by Berkeley1297 on Mar 31, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

just don't see him getting close

to 100 percent before or during the playoffs….obviously it is worse than thought if surgery was put on the table…..i honestly don’t expect much KG until next season

by celticinorlando on Mar 31, 2009 5:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Kobe vs LeBron

In the NBA finals. Book it, Dano.

If the Celtics do get past Cleveland, Glenn Davis will be a rich man, a very rich man.

by Brickowski on Mar 31, 2009 6:30 PM EDT reply actions  

And you will be very disappointed

Especially if Stephon contributes in any way.

by KJ33 on Apr 1, 2009 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

We Knew...

…what we were getting when they traded for KG, that is a reliable and gifted league veteran with lots of miles; so the intent down the stretch is to run him sparingly and smartly now and more importantly throughout the playoffs – banner 18 is there for the taking as I keep the faith.

Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk

by mcpu40 on Mar 31, 2009 7:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Wait until the Playoffs

If KG is not playing pain free in practice then wait until he is needed in the Playoffs, that is if he is able to play. Maybe he doesn’t play very much in the 1st round of the playoffs or just play when needed in the series. At times hang back on Defense and rest on Offense, Big Bill Russell used to do that at the end of his career when he needed to. Maybe next year we pickup an extra big man to play and help out.. Anyway KG get well soon.

by CelticsWin on Mar 31, 2009 7:09 PM EDT reply actions  

wow so many posts

everything is gonna be alright (i hope) he actually looked not bad in those minutes he played when he got back… taking some rest be happy with the 3rd seed i dont see any problem with it since we are not dropping to 4th in any chance so why risk it

by hiro on Mar 31, 2009 7:25 PM EDT reply actions  

all the more reason

to root for the Celtics.
NBA where the impossible happens.

by tommyfan on Mar 31, 2009 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

No worries

There is no way to know how to interpret this. Yes, it’s possible that his injury is worse than expected and they are not telling us that just yet. It’s also possible, that BOS anticipates a very grueling 7 game series with Cleveland and cannot afford to have key players return prematurely (thus being worn out by the Eastern Conf Finals). At current pace we are only 3-5 games behind last year’s record. That’s pretty damn impressive considering the number of injuries this year.

So, I choose not to worry. I have faith (and not blind faith) that the C’s will bring it together. The 1st round should be a good warmup to shake off all the dust and get everyone focused. Last year also, the 1st two rounds entailed finding the rhythm on the road. We’ve done it before, we can do it again, with or without home court advantage.

Somewhat of an aside: KG, Tony Allen, and Powe are getting extensive time off for their injuries. Rondo, Davis, and Ray Allen had almost no time off. Allen, I can somewhat understand (hyperextended elbow can heal reasonably fast). But BBD and Rondo sprained their ankles, and those do not heal that fast (continue to be vulnerable to reinjury for almost 6 weeks). I’d be more worried about Rondo and BBD. KG with a sore knee can still be effective. Rondo and BBD need their ankles for their style of play (lot of quick turns).

by Berkeley1297 on Mar 31, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

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