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Celtics guard Ray Allen has been suspended one game without pay for elbowing Cleveland Cavaliers forward Anderson Varejao in the groin, it was announced today by Stu Jackson, NBA Executive Vice President, Basketball Operations.

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Totally Absurd - Disgusting

I hope all you people in here who thought his actions were so abhorrent, so classless are happy. Political Correctness will kill the world and the NBA.

Viva Clothesline Rambis!!!! Viva Chief Girly punching Lambeer! Let them play!!!

Free yourselves from mental slavery – no one but yourself can set you free!!!

Is it Soup Yet?

by Master Po on Apr 14, 2009 5:34 PM EDT reply actions  

right on brother

the late 1980’s is where it is at

by celticinorlando on Apr 14, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think there's a middle ground somewhere between too much political correctness and men elbowing other men below the belt

Good for the NBA on the ruling, and good that it couldn’t come at a less damaging time for us.

-sw

Manuel Aristides Ramirez is the greatest hitter I've ever seen.
Abounding hitters, no clue about the pitching staff: Beware the Bizarro Dodgers!

by Steve Weinman on Apr 14, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

what middle ground did we find here?

Are you suggesting he should have been suspended more games and this is in fact a compromise?
I guess we agree to disagree which is OK. I just see no reason to suspend either one. What they did not warrant a suspension – just a technical foul and move on.

Is it Soup Yet?

by Master Po on Apr 14, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

'middle ground'

would have been if Ray had found a way to respond to whatever Varejao did to him without elbowing the guy in the groin – and then both had received technicals.

In this instance, Ray went to an extreme and suffered a penalty accordingly. Fair all around in my book.

-sw

Manuel Aristides Ramirez is the greatest hitter I've ever seen.
Abounding hitters, no clue about the pitching staff: Beware the Bizarro Dodgers!

by Steve Weinman on Apr 14, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im dissapointed in you Ray....

Next time wind up and step into it and bring him to the ground.

by angryguy77 on Apr 14, 2009 5:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Good thing Ray elbowed Varajao.

If he’d have done that to the messiah, Ray’d be deported.

by Finkelskyhook on Apr 14, 2009 5:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Mandated rest is probably a good thing anyway. Get Gabe some major minutes tonight.

by Finkelskyhook on Apr 14, 2009 5:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, rest Pierce while you’re at it too.

BBD’s sick? Screw it; rest him, too. You have an excuse.

by Tai on Apr 14, 2009 5:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Need 8 Guys To Suit Up

If not it’s a forfeit. Doc finally will get his chance to play.

"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
"Criminally Negligent Officiating"--Tommy Heinsohn

by TrueGreen on Apr 14, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remarks

1. As said above Ray gets his day off and TA will probably get much of his minutes which is good.
2. Varejeo’s throwing Ray down by holding his arm and jerking him down was much more of an infraction than what Ray did. What Ray did seemed accidental to me as he was getting up and there wasn’t much force in his action. There was alot of force in Varejeo’s holding Ray’s arm and putting alot of pressure on it. Verejeo should also have been suspended. His play was more dirty than Ray’s

"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
"Criminally Negligent Officiating"--Tommy Heinsohn

by TrueGreen on Apr 14, 2009 5:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I love Ray but he was in the wrong this time.

9 + 20 + 34 + 5 + 43 = 19

by silvershamrocker on Apr 14, 2009 6:03 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

True Green Please...
Varejeo’s throwing Ray down by holding his arm and jerking him down was much more of an infraction than what Ray did. What Ray did seemed accidental to me as he was getting up and there wasn’t much force in his action. There was alot of force in Varejeo’s holding Ray’s arm and putting alot of pressure on it. Verejeo should also have been suspended. His play was more dirty than Ray’s

Ray Allen elbowed Varejao in the nuts (or whatever Varejao has…based on his limited reaction it’s up in the air). Whether you think he meant it or not, really doesn’t matter. You cannot do that, and I think the NBA did the right thing here.

SCOTT

by Vegas Scott on Apr 14, 2009 6:18 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Agreed, Scott

-sw

Manuel Aristides Ramirez is the greatest hitter I've ever seen.
Abounding hitters, no clue about the pitching staff: Beware the Bizarro Dodgers!

by Steve Weinman on Apr 14, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

How dare you!

Nobody disagrees with me…I’m right 100% of the time…or at least that’s what I tell myself…

SCOTT

by Vegas Scott on Apr 15, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m sure you “can’t do this”.

On the other hand, the way the league is handling this stuff, you apparently can put people in the hospital with serious injuries. Go figure.

by kozlodoev on Apr 14, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Varejao Started This

Varejao pulled Ray hard to the floor. He could have injured Ray’s shoulder or elbow or twisted a muscle etc. Varejao didn’t react very much so Ray couldn’t have hit him that hard. (My first impression was that Ray’s hit was accidental, but I saw it again on replay and it looked on purpose). Regardless, he didn’t hit him hard, there was no potential for injury. Scals was hit much harder when he received his last concussion. Varejao did not even get a concussion. The refs did not call a blatant foul and did not eject Ray. Ray did not deserve to be suspended, Varejao did. By the way, thanks for the spelling on the Cav guy. Non of this matters. It’s the principle of the thing. If you are going to suspend Ray you need to suspend Varejao. You also need to suspend the guy that hit Scals the last time and you probably should suspend Nowitzki for elbowing Scals and starting his concussion cascade. There is no consistency in what Stu Jackson does.

"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
"Criminally Negligent Officiating"--Tommy Heinsohn

by TrueGreen on Apr 15, 2009 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's not about intent or who started it though....

Trust me, I understand what you are saying. Varejao did start it, absolutely. However, since we are about 6 years old, there are certain things that we are taught you do not do on the basketball floor or in any sport (even boxing!). One of those happens to be a cheap shot at someones groin. It does not matter if he meant it, that’s a man’s family jewels. You can cause serious injury when you do that, not to mention how painful it is! The real debate however is if Varejao does not have anything between his legs, should it still be a suspension?

I can see the David Stern and Stu Jackson reviewing the footage in their office now….Stern turns to Jackson “so uhm does he have any junk or not?” Stu responds dumbfounded “seems inconclusive to me, let’s suspend Allen anyway because it feels good!” Because the truth is, if he has nothing there, it’s just another elbow.

SCOTT

by Vegas Scott on Apr 15, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

WOW!! -- from the ESPN report

The frizzy-haired Varejao had his own take.

“You don’t hit a man in his [groin],” he said. “He doesn’t like Brazilians or he doesn’t like my hair.”

by prov1ml on Apr 14, 2009 6:35 PM EDT reply actions  

We will have forgotten about this by next week

This suspension means as much to us as the elbow did to Varejao.

by Thruthelookingglass on Apr 14, 2009 6:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Well played sir…well played.

by neyvit on Apr 14, 2009 6:47 PM EDT reply actions  

$167,000 is what it cost ray

Players don’t like getting suspended for that reason alone. He would have preferred just to sit one out. Now, the NBA charity fund just got a big chunk of change.

by csung on Apr 14, 2009 7:04 PM EDT reply actions  

It's What Ray Gets Paid Per Game

I think.

"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
"Criminally Negligent Officiating"--Tommy Heinsohn

by TrueGreen on Apr 15, 2009 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Meh who cares? I know I don’t. The only thing I care about is whether Ray’s absence from the floor will spare me Reggie’s speech about the three point record.

by twinbree on Apr 14, 2009 7:09 PM EDT reply actions  

as penance, and in the spirit of compromise i vote we should have to hire the Brazilian female beach volleyball team

to cheer for the celtics when they met the cavs in the playoffs. I will certainly be happier watching those games

by wahz on Apr 15, 2009 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

ray got thrown down

he showed a glimmer of a fighting spirit that could have done the rest of the celtics good if they had a dose of it -!!
i just wish he would have landed it with a little more force!!

by CELTICZ4LIFE on Apr 15, 2009 3:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Ray deserved to be suspended

The fact that sideshow bob is a dirty, flopping, annoying tool who needs a haircut doesn’t change the fact that Ray made a dirty play. And it was blatant too. Of course he is going to get suspended.

If he’d done this to DWest or Gibson or Mo Williams, I’d be more annoyed though. Sideshow Bob deserves to be elbowed where a normal man’s baby-rocks would be.

Forget Quit Snitchin’, how about Stop Floppin’.

Big brother no longer needs to watch, because the world is convinced he is.

by Schupac on Apr 15, 2009 10:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Will be remembered

What ever the “correct” call should’ve been and whether or not Ray was in the wrong….he’s not gonna forget that throw to the ground in the PLAYOFFS!!

by Cfan07 on Apr 15, 2009 12:03 PM EDT reply actions  

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