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Anything's Possiblllllllllllllllllle!!!

Rain, rain, go away, please come back another day.  There will be time for gloom, we'll make room for doom, but I have no care for that today.  If and when this season ends, there will be plenty of time to write the epitaph on the year that was and ponder the years to come.  Today we talk about today.

Go ahead world, write us off.  Dismiss us.  Forget about us.  That works for me.  If there's one squad in the league that can rally around the "us-against-the-world" mentality, it is the Boston Celtics.

The Captain of this ship, Paul Pierce, is locked in and ready for the playoffs.  You want intensity and leadership?  How about Pierce barking at his teammates mid way through the Wizards game, rallying them to victory on and off the court.  Kind of reminds you of a certain maniacal 7 footer doesn't it?

Ray Allen has gotten used to being ignored on this team.  With so much attention on KG and Paul, it is easy to overlook the quiet superstar that simply goes out and delievers game-in-game-out.  But let's consider for a moment what we have with Ray.  He's THE best shooter in the game and deserves mention in the conversation of greatest shooters of all time.  He's no one-trick pony either.  For years he carried the Sonics as the star player and primary option on offense.  He can and will step up his game in the playoffs.  He's even got healthy ankles this year (just ask Sasha Vujacic what he can do on half-healed wheels).

Just in case the world hasn't met Rajon Rondo yet, they are about to get a steady dose of reminders that the kid is grown up.  Its no longer about "potential" with Rondo.  He is, hands down, one of the best point guards in the game.  He can dominate a game without taking a shot outside of 3 feet but don't look now, he's also adding that 12 foot jumper that everyone said he needed.  Rondo's already a star, it just may take these playoffs for everyone to notice.

Not a bad start there huh?  Ask anyone what the model for NBA Championships is and they'll tell you great defense and three star players.  I submit that they have the three stars and the defense ain't all that bad either.  Certainly the Celtics will miss the reiging Defensive Player of the Year.  But they still have the mastermind Tom Thibodeau working on diabolical schemes to throw any offense into turmoil.

As I said yesterday, this team will not go quietly.  Ubuntu is not just for teams at full strength.  This unit no longer has to worry about overconfidence or complacency.  They shouldn't fail for lack of focus or motivation.  If anything they'll be locked in and hyped to make their fallen teammate proud of them.  It is what he would want.

Anything IS possible.  The Celtics are the defending Champions until someone does something about it.  Write them off at your own risk.

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This team has developed a winning mentality thats still there without KG…are there chances significantly lower? yes…but hey Im still PUMPED about the playoffs anyways, and i love that picture and this article…thanks

by TheAncientRivalry on Apr 17, 2009 7:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Awesome, Jeff.

runs through wall

(the same wall I spent the last five hours banging my head against).

by Bent on Apr 17, 2009 7:49 AM EDT reply actions  

mission accomplished then

totally my intent, glad to hear it

"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V

by Jeff Clark on Apr 17, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

They Got Game

we need that classic Jesus Shuttlesworth game play and a lot of The Truth!!!

Kick in the door waving the 4-4.....all you heard was poppa don't hit me no mo'

by CaliforniaGreen on Apr 17, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've always been kind of known for my Cynicism. . .

But after reading your article this morning I carved a C into my forearm with a rusty fork.

Bring it on.

by lovethecees on Apr 17, 2009 8:08 AM EDT reply actions  

And from the congregation ...

Amen! Thank you Jeff! I thought Bob Ryan summed up my personal sentiments pretty well, but a little under the enthusiam mark you hit there. You said it perfectly. We might be more dangerous to the Cavs than we were last year based on mindset alone … Imagine if we do it and KG comes back healthy to try for a matching three-peat bookend to what the Lake-show had to start the decade? Now because of diminished expectations and understanding of Garnett’s significance, even if we don’t see that golden dream , we will have made a mark on history. No one is going to forget this 2009 team even if they can’t catch the 2008 tiger. But we have the best puncher’s chance in the league to stop a Kobe or LeBron title this year. It’s going to be fun knocking out whoever stands in our way to those two rivals.

PGDB

by CeltiCpRide79 on Apr 17, 2009 8:11 AM EDT reply actions  

KG isnt coming back…the injury isnt healing, and isnt going to heal until its taken care of. the celtics will not risk playing KG, and if they make the finals, will obviously take there chanes without him, because that would clearly mean they were playing good basketball and wouldnt need a guy who hasnt played competetively in 2 months, has a sore knee and isnt in game shape…cmon

by TheAncientRivalry on Apr 17, 2009 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

he was talking about next year.

saying if we somehow pulled it off this year, then KG come back next year and we win 3 in a row.

by scurvmeister on Apr 17, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, my bad on that one…yeah that would be something else

by TheAncientRivalry on Apr 17, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Jersey made a run with Kidd, Carter and Richardson

I suppose we can make one with Rondo, Allen and Pierce.

Rondo has to be huge, Ray hot, and Pierce rested – and we’ve got the bangers to make something happen…

by Michael Anthony on Apr 17, 2009 8:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Except the Nets did not have to go through a team as good as Cleveland to get to the finals.

by Brickowski on Apr 17, 2009 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

and speaking of bangers . . .

One more reason we have to hope is our own Tower of Power, Kendrick Perkins. His improvement has been even more under the radar, but he too has a large role to play. Except for Ilgauskas, KP seems to have a knack for shutting down other centers while still maintaining enough presence underneath to cause potential penetrators some worry. And his hook shot really comes in handy now and again.

And talk about tough, Perk has been exuding one serious nasty attitude on the court for years now.

by Thruthelookingglass on Apr 17, 2009 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

richardson is a good nickname for richard jefferson

you made me think of sugar ray richardson, and it got my sense of time all confused. :-)

the nets did have the mighty todd mccullough. (hey, he was pretty effective until nasty injuries turned him into a professional pinball wizard – no joke).

by csung on Apr 17, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Celtics will fight until the end...

With or without KG, the Celtics will put up an epic fight in the playoff series.

They know that KG is down which means that everyone in the team needs to put their ALL in these upcoming Playoff games.

We will beat Chicago Bulls.

We will beat Orlando Magic.

We will beat Cleveland Cavaliers.

And finally, we will beat the Lakers again, with Bynum back and with them having their homecourt. No excuses this time, Lakers.

by AlexC on Apr 17, 2009 8:19 AM EDT reply actions  

I swear to God...

If the Celtics win it all, I will definitely buy the Celtics 2008-2009 Champions DVD. xD

I will love to see KG at the bench, standing up, and giving instructions to his team on the court. That would be exciting to watch and put more fight into our team. He could possibly intimidate the opponent with all the teamwork he’s yelling out from the bench. Haha.

by AlexC on Apr 17, 2009 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

this sure beat being a lottery

team….time to take chicago behind the shed

by celticinorlando on Apr 17, 2009 8:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Interaction + Impact

It will be interesting to watch KG’s interaction with the team from the bench and subsequent impact he can still have on the outcomes of games by being there.

Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk

by mcpu40 on Apr 17, 2009 8:23 AM EDT reply actions  

beyond fire

I think KG could really help our guys on defense, keeping our guys honest and observing little things to pass on in the huddle. Other than that, KG may distract the other team with invective, vitriol and smack talk. And if comes out in uniform, he will distract the other team’s coach who will have to just keep wondering . . .

by Thruthelookingglass on Apr 17, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

There were several challenge to put your money where your mouth is

Yesterday a number of folks were saying, if you believe in the Celtics winning it all, put your money down. My counterpoint would be do you really feel that good betting against this group. I, for one, would feel pretty nervous doing that. There is still tremendous talent on this team, and there is a lot of heart. The question is will enough guys step up their game. It will take people playing extraordinarily well. Consider the ceiling for Marbury, pretty high. We have seen brilliant stretches from Eddie, Leon, BBD, Perk and Rondo. If most of them play to their recent best (and that is not the most likely outcome), I would give this team more than a punchers chance. This train of course doesn’t go anyweher unless Paul and Ray play well, but that is what we all expect. I may not be putting money on the Celtics, but I am not stupid enough to bet against them.

by Silverlock on Apr 17, 2009 8:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Dead-on Silverlock. I mentioned in a previous post that I AM betting on the Cs.

I have 2 bets with guys at work on the Cs making the ECF. I would have been willing to bet they win it all, but my co-workers proposed the ECF bet. I may be deluded or in denial, but I’m believing this team can do it until they prove me wrong.

Here’s the funny part — I tried getting a third guy, a Lakers fan, to bet me on the whole shebang, and he DECLINED. Even a lakers fan wouldn’t bet against this team!

by Cousin It on Apr 17, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even if we dont win, cleveland or LA has to lose, and oh boy wont that be sweet,,,cavs fans are arrogant smug little blanks, they posted about KGs injuries, and a very low life loser said “lol @ pathetic celts fans”.

Thats a disgrace.

by TheAncientRivalry on Apr 17, 2009 8:35 AM EDT reply actions  

I concur

living in SoCal loving Celtic Green is not for the birds. I on the other hand love going against the grain lol

Kick in the door waving the 4-4.....all you heard was poppa don't hit me no mo'

by CaliforniaGreen on Apr 17, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Finally

At least someone else agrees with me. Thank you Jeff.

by Greg Payne on Apr 17, 2009 8:36 AM EDT reply actions  

this team is much better than

the team that made it to the ECF against Jersey…i don’t think offense will be an issue…all about defense

by celticinorlando on Apr 17, 2009 8:42 AM EDT reply actions  

true,

but i’m not sure the level of competition was the same then either

Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk

by mcpu40 on Apr 17, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it seems as though last years celtics really made other teams around the league make that next step, mainly the teams we beat last season en route to 17. we created a monster

by TheAncientRivalry on Apr 17, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Listening to Ray was encouraging. If they somehow could pull this off it would be mind boggling. Honestly though I’m still bummed. Yesterday was a tidal wave of bad news. Danny’s heart attack deserves our full attention but yesterday it was just the terrible end to an already really crappy day. They say there are several stages of grieving- Sadness, Anger, Rejection and Acceptance. I’d say I’m in phase 2 which is ANger. I’m pissed off that we’re back to that crappy bad luck BS we had with Reggie Lewis, Bias etc. I thought after 20 years of sucking it up that we were due for a good stretch. Sure we had last year but when we got the big 3 together I was hoping for a run longer than one year so I’m mad at the basketball gods. I’m also pissed at the Celts. They say they couldn’t have done anything different but I don’t believe them. SOmetime this summer, when KG has his surgery, we’ll find out what really went down but in the meantime we have been jerked around. Since Anger is irrational to begin with, I am also a little po’d at KG for his silence on the whole thing and for not getting surgery if that was in fact an option

by Red2 on Apr 17, 2009 8:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Can't be mad at KG

He is dying to be on the court and injuries to one of your best players always hurts a team. Still on the bright side there’s hope we will be 100% next season which we need. I rather him sit out and get behind the team to rally them to victories then to aggravate his knee anymore. They made the right decision shutting him down, now we can truly show who we are when we reach the Finals once again. Lakers and Cavs are no match when Rondo is playing at his best and two of the Big Three are firing at will. Big Baby and Powe can’t replace KG, but they can provide a extra spark for the position when needed. Marbury will have to get some big games and House needs to be Eddie Money we all know and love. Perkins got to the be the shot blocker and aggressive center that worries the other team. All together they can make a great run and quiet the doubters who have written them off.

by illestmcsgt on Apr 17, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

bench players are the key

TA, step up damn man, like we know you can
ed $, hustle shoot hustle.
Scal, FUNDAMENTALS.
Steph, grab those 9 assists and money Js.
Billy W, posteriZe LBJ.

by mec1 on Apr 17, 2009 9:06 AM EDT reply actions  

The biggest myth in all of sports is...

…that the Celtics are somehow a “lucky” franchise!

PLEASE!

This is the 6th time a serious injury has cost Boston a title :

1958—Russell`s ankle
1973—Havlicek`s shoulder
1982—Archibald`s shoulder
1985—Maxwell`s knee
1987—McHale`s ankle, Walton`s foot, Bias` death
2009—KG`s knee

Let`s not forget the draft lotteries of 1997 & 2007.

Sorry, one lucky shot by Don Nelson in 1969 does NOT offset all this other crap!!!

by Title 18 on Apr 17, 2009 9:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Word.

What Jeff said..

Nice job El Jefe.

When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"

by Green17 on Apr 17, 2009 9:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Guilty

If anyone bypass the frontpage this morning is either blind or numb…im guilty of sometimes bypassing it myself,and going straight to the forums.This morning is the best eyeopener besides a good cup of java ive had in a long time.Great stuff Jeff..Go Celtics all the way to #18!

by house_call on Apr 17, 2009 9:34 AM EDT reply actions  

In Wonderland

Alice: But I don’t want to go among mad people.
The Cat: Oh, you can’t help that. We’re all mad here. I’m mad. You’re mad.
Alice: How do you know I’m mad?
The Cat: You must be. Or you wouldn’t have come here.

More green tea anyone? How can I have more when I haven’t any yet?

Crazy isn’t such a bad place to be – Go Celt’s!!!

Is it Soup Yet?

by Master Po on Apr 17, 2009 9:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Can still win!

We can still win. We won 62 games. we are a very good team.

by liamail on Apr 17, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking about flying under the radar, have you guys seen this? The national pundits are picking us to be one and done:

2. Celtics vs. 7. Bulls: If Kevin Garnett were healthy, this would be a bad matchup for the Bulls. Without Garnett, the Bulls have a chance to make this interesting—and, more than that, to win it. Their depth and perimeter shooting will prove to be too much for the defending champs. Bulls in 6. (ed. note – this prediction was changed from its original version to reflect the news that Garnett will miss the playoffs)

Source: http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AmNos.QpvnrOafdYo7dXXpq8vLYF?slug=thenbaplayoffsarehereour&prov=tsn&type=lgns

by kozlodoev on Apr 17, 2009 9:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Good.

When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"

by Green17 on Apr 17, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Bulls finished strong, but...

No way they can do more than push it to seven games, and I highly doubt it will go past 5!

by nba is the worst on Apr 17, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bring it on!

I really love how everybody thinks we will lose and in the end they will all be proven wrong.

by illestmcsgt on Apr 17, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right on, Jeff...

Folks around the country — and even many casual local fans — probably don’t get the real depth and grit of this team. It has never been the Big 1. Ray and Paul are going to lead this ragtag fleet like the generals they are.

Now, they may not get all the way without KG, but they just might — and any team that isn’t afraid of seeing them in the playoffs should get some new scouts.

I’m looking forward to our men in green shocking the world again. what story could possibly top last year’s?

We’re looking at it.

Go C’s!!!

by Hal Jordan on Apr 17, 2009 10:03 AM EDT reply actions  

by the way

I didn’t even mention the masterful job Doc has done this year (Simmons covers that at the tail end of his article though)

"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V

by Jeff Clark on Apr 17, 2009 10:05 AM EDT reply actions  

"Just a small town girl living in a ....."

Don’t stop.

If the Cowboys could only play like a team with passion and unity like my beloved
Boston Celtics, I would be happy.

by Captain Comeback on Apr 17, 2009 10:14 AM EDT reply actions  

For once

…I completely agree with every word of this article.

All top tier teams have roughly the same talent base. It comes down to heart, and teamwork, and coming back from 24 down.

The more you write them off, the stronger this team gets. Let the naysayers naysay. Our guys have said it a million times: No excuses. They will be locked and loaded and woe to any team that faces them.

by DRJ1 on Apr 17, 2009 10:18 AM EDT reply actions  

well said

Paul and Ray are mad scary duo,
No way Mo Williams (ie) is a better talent than who we have on our team
let other teams try to match up with us.

LBJ has a strong history of being utter shite in beantown, don’t expect that to change soon.

by mec1 on Apr 17, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

on the subject of "bad "luck"

I am a Laker fan so I will get that out of the way but i am also bummed by the KG injury as I have always been a fan and have worked with him on several occasions doing spots. Anyway,i have read a significant amount about “bad luck” here. By and large, we create our own good or bad luck. Early in the season when Boston was on that incredible 27-2 tear, i called a college buddy in Boston and said “as fun as this is for you guys, you have 3 over 30 players playing a lot of close games that look to me like they’re being staged in the NCAA tournament…balls to the wall. mark my words, injuries will be an issue” That was not a hyndsight is 20/20 sort of comment. I just could not see a team competing on that level with an 82 game schedule, particularly with a team whose 3 core players are on the other side of their career arcs, without any consequence. I love the Celtic grit and wish the Lakers had more of it, but some prudent coaching would have been immeasurably more helpful. Jackson is a master of pacing a team. So, as unlucky as it feels to lose KG, you have to also take a look at what contributed to that.

by lakersbluedevil on Apr 17, 2009 10:26 AM EDT reply actions  

true to a point

but it worked for us last year

"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V

by Jeff Clark on Apr 17, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Most of our injury issues this year have been related to young rotation guys missing an extensive amount of games. So this argument doesn’t quite work.

Garnett was averaging career low minutes since his rookie year for a second year in a row, so I don’t see how this could have been a concern.

by kozlodoev on Apr 17, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

There is absolutely no evidence

That if KG had only played 1/2 the minutes he did during that stretch, it would have prevented this situation. The bone spur appears to have been present from the beginning of the year, and no matter what steps were taken, it was likely he was going to have some issues. Unless you are suggesting that Doc outright sat him every other game or some such thing, the wear and tear is accumulated over many years, and playing 15, 25 or 35 minutes over 29 games was not going to be the difference. Sorry, it is 20/20 hindsight, because nobody knew this particular issue was going to arise.

by KJ33 on Apr 17, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don`t you love how ONLY the Celts are portrayed as old?

Career minutes played :

Kobe Bryant…..34,531
Paul Pierce……30,525

Ilgauskas….34 years old in early June
B. Wallace…34 years old
J. Smith……..34 years old in July

by Title 18 on Apr 17, 2009 10:49 AM EDT reply actions  

What About The Next Three Years?

I’ve already written off this year. I’ll be rooting for them, but Cleveland is just too tough, especially playing 5 on 8.

What concerns me is the next three years, when KG is still under contract. The Celtics have to make absolutely sure that the knee is properly taken care of during the offseason. And if a cameo appearance in the playoffs by KG risks aggravating the injury, he must not be allowed to play.

by Brickowski on Apr 17, 2009 10:51 AM EDT reply actions  

agree

long term health is the priority and I’m sure that’s why Doc and the staff are doing their best to rule him out for a return

"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V

by Jeff Clark on Apr 17, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

5 on 8 - LOL

Don’t forget about Joe DeRosa…

by nba is the worst on Apr 17, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

was away

kept away from the news… came back & i felt like my house was robbed….
as sad as this KG news …. is your article is great. GO CELTICS!

by tommyfan on Apr 17, 2009 10:56 AM EDT reply actions  

any news on chris mannix report today re: KG's injury?

dan patrick was reporting this morning that KG’s injury may be a lot more problematic than has been reported earlier. he was going to talk to chris mannix of SI about it on his show, but now i’m at work and can’t listen.

by csung on Apr 17, 2009 11:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Even if we don't get all the way to the NBA finals

we need to get ourselves to the conference finals and give Cleveland all they can handle. If KG is indeed done for the year I don’t expect anything more than that. It WILL however give us some serious confidence if we can push them and make them TAKE it from us. We have enough talent to give them more than they want, and if we are in it and win a couple games anything can happen. If nothing else it makes them worried for next year when we have a healthy KG and have added another chip. If we go in there and get run it doesn’t help our confidence, or our ability to attract a solid free agent looking for a ring.

by EJPLAYA on Apr 17, 2009 11:03 AM EDT reply actions  

"Anything IS possible"

You stated the situation perfectly Jeff. These words (Subject) in your last paragraph say it all.
All reason says the C’s should not repeat. But where was all reason in game 4 of last year’s finals when the C’s made the greatest comeback in NBA finals history. Where was all reason in the last Philly game when Paul Pierce was given the nite off and refused to take it. Where was all reason when we won all those games this year that all reason says we should have lost. How could we win the Cav’s game at home when the ref’s were wearing Cav uniforms. When it comes to the C’s “All reason” doesn’t mean a thing. Let’s just wait and see what happens. I don’t know if they’ll win or lose, but I’m sure not writing them off. Danny and KG, get well soon.

"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
"Criminally Negligent Officiating"--Tommy Heinsohn

by TrueGreen on Apr 17, 2009 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Would love it!

Portland vs. Orlando in the Finals!!!!

by Title 18 on Apr 17, 2009 11:11 AM EDT reply actions  

really? Id actuallty rather watch a cleveland vs LA finals then that…

One of those teams winning it all would be just as amazing as the celtics repeating

by TheAncientRivalry on Apr 17, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Add To All Reason

It makes no sense for us or anyone who does not know all the facts to talk about KG’s injury in definitive terms. This is a link to today’s Boston Globe article that discusses it: http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2009/04/17/on_eve_of_playoffs_celtics_lose_garnett/

DiNubile theorized that high-tech medical scans may be failing to identify the true source of the damage.

Still, Feiler cautioned that it is always risky to jump to conclusions about an athlete’s true condition without having access to complete medical records.
“That’s what gets hard with a lot of these comments,” Feiler said. “Does that really describe what’s going on or not?”

Several Doctors, all of whom know none of the facts make statements. The above quotes from some Docs who know none of the facts make sense. The article also states that the Celtics team MD who does know the facts as best of they can be known is not allowed to comment because of NBA rules. Medical records are also private so none of us or anyone else really need to know.

"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
"Criminally Negligent Officiating"--Tommy Heinsohn

by TrueGreen on Apr 17, 2009 11:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Starbury the Microwave

I want Starbury to come off the bench, with blazing guns. Yes, he can drive and dish for some House MD 3ptrs, however, I want him to do what Vinnie Johnson did, against us, some twenty plus years back.

In essence, Starbury keeps the opponents best players working, every single quarter of the game so that in Q4, it’s all Truth time! Remember, that’s where Pierce demolishes all opponents.

by TitleMaster on Apr 17, 2009 11:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Great read

Actually got me pumped.

I am READY for these playoffs. I am wearing my Cs gear with pride here in Columbus, and if they meet in the playoffs I’m wearing it with pride in Cleveland (and carrying a baseball bat for self preservation).

Ubuntu.

Big brother no longer needs to watch, because the world is convinced he is.

by Schupac on Apr 17, 2009 11:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Powe

Now is the time for Powe to step into the picture. The guy has maintained huge numbers for his time on the floor. And he has done most of his damage, just going one on one, with sure determination. This is his time to get quality time against the best. He may emerge as the biggest surprise to the Playoff world. Big Baby also has the Biggest opportunity to establish himself.

I am glad that this team has had a month or more without KG, to adapt their game to being without his presence. Marbury also presents another high quality player that could emerge as the playoffs intensify. Should be very, very interesting.

If we could win without KG it would crystallize the notion of having emerging young talent take up the slack as the big three start showing the signs of wear.

by Bozo on Apr 17, 2009 11:57 AM EDT reply actions  

we have already overacheived so whatever happens is gravy. as for the future I guess we’re going to have to be satisfied that we won one. kg, pierce and ray aren’t going to get any younger

by Red2 on Apr 17, 2009 12:05 PM EDT reply actions  

It's been a long time. I grew up outside of Boston and watched..

Havlichech, Cowens, White, and Silas, then Bird, Parish, Mchale and my favorite was DJ. Twenty years ago I moved to Los Angeles (help me!) and became a Clippers fan. How could any Bostonian root for the Lakers?

  I’ve been a season ticket holder for the Clippers for the past 10 years or so and it’s been a miserable experience.

  I just wanted to come back and see if I could remember what rooting for a real team is like. – Minus the Pitino “I’ll kill this team if it’s the last thing I do.” – years.

  I hope everyone welcomes me back, it’s been a long time.

by eastie Rich on Apr 17, 2009 12:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Welcome back Eastie Rich

You had to bring up the Pitino years. That was as low as it gets. Gastons as owners and that little peacock. You should come back. I’m in Hawaii coming back from work in Japan and my wife came out and is in bed saying “Not here. You aren’t on that Celtic Blog are you?”
But, that’s what it is. The team has been an utter joy to watch the last two years. No KG means keep your money in your pocket but as you can see above you can be totally irrational and it is warranted.

by Wildblu1 on Apr 17, 2009 1:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks Wildblu1, I was getting tired of getting laid into on the Clippers blog.

It’s so delusional there, almost 45% of respondents want to keep Dunleavy as coach and GM. It reminds me of Pitino.

What I wouldn’t do to be back in Boston with a real team in a real city. But our business is here so we’re stuck.

by eastie Rich on Apr 17, 2009 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Good to see the bloggers soldiering on......

I for one would like to see what this team can accomplish without Garnett.

I suspect that Rondo, Perkins, Powe, BBD will have key inputs.

Who knows, maybe Tony Allen can shut down Lebron.

Truth is stranger (I meant better) than fiction.

Boston Celtics - 2008 World Champions

by QuinielaBox on Apr 17, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Doc and Mikki Moore

I know there’s not much of a choice Doc but PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE make it MIKKI LESS not MOORE!! The guy gets knocked over with a stiff wind. The sad part is he’s not doing a flop that’s all it takes!!

by Celtics9Lakers2 on Apr 17, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorry lads

it’s ovah. We’ll have a good run but we ain’t bringing it home this year. Shades of ’82 when Cs fans chanted BEAT LA to the victorious Sixers at the garden. (One slight glimmer of hope……Portland vs, Lakers. Hope for that match up.)

by The Real Large James 2 on Apr 17, 2009 3:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Hell yeah,

Pass the Green Kool-Aid… we Celts fans are not fair weather… Again I say, this team is going to surprise everybody… And if not, the they’ll make it an attempt worth watching.

Go C’s! Let’s do it for KG!

by Hal Jordan on Apr 17, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

An attempt worth watching.

Hal Jordan-F.Y.I.-That’s why they get payed millions.

by Celtics9Lakers2 on Apr 17, 2009 3:26 PM EDT reply actions  

correct -- and rightly so!

And we also know that $$$ doesn’t always equal drive… lucky for us, the whole C’s roster from top to bottom has drive to spare!

by Hal Jordan on Apr 17, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clippers

Eastie Rich…..It`s bad enough watching the Clips on KTLA, with Ralph Lawler {1st too 100 pts. wins!} and Celtic flop Michael Smith.
I lived in the SFV for many years.

by Title 18 on Apr 17, 2009 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Man the local Clips crew is miles better than most of the homers I hear. Except my homers that is.

by Thruthelookingglass on Apr 17, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just listened to the Clipper rep. lie about the offers the team gave to STHs on ESPN.

What a lame excuse for a franchise. What I wouldn’t do to have a real team to root for. o.k. I can root for the Celtics and always have, but it’s not the same when you live in stupid town usa.

by eastie Rich on Apr 18, 2009 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

ride or die celtics fans....

time to bring the thunder….all we can ask is they play with Celtic Pride…rather lose a Celtic fan than win with any other team..there is no substitution

by celticinorlando on Apr 17, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Right now

We have to focus on what we need to do in the first round then play each game like it’s our last. More reason to take the Bulls out and show we ain’t going no where!

by illestmcsgt on Apr 17, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Someone said Bill Walker on the King...

You kidding right? He couldn’t even shut down Caron Butler. He is an okay player, but he will never be an all star unless he develops a shot like Vince Carter. He also can’t penetrate like TA either. With Scal coming back, let’s hope Mikki Moore and Walker will sit on the bench.

I still say we will be in Cleveland by the ECF!

by tmak26b on Apr 17, 2009 5:16 PM EDT reply actions  

There’s one thing I don’t understand:

The Celtics are 18-7 without Garnett this season. This projects to a 59-win season, which would still be the #4 record in the NBA. And that’s not even considering that we were down to 2 1/2 big men for quite a nubm

Of course, 25 games are obviously not a representative sample, and playoffs are all about matchups, but I think everyone needs to calm down a little bit.

by kozlodoev on Apr 17, 2009 5:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks

Really, thanks I needed that. Almost exactly what I told a friend earlier today. Still… Thanks!!

by RO33 on Apr 17, 2009 5:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice write up

tomorrow cant get here sooner, seems its taking foreverrrrrr

hops around in one place in pierce jersey

"....you can't handle The Truth"

by kheeko on Apr 17, 2009 5:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Great article + Hi Eastie Rich

Jeff- you stated what so many of us are thinking and feeling- but much more eloquently that most of us could.
And Eastie Rich, you’re always welcome on C’s blog. It must be just awful having to root for the Clippers. I know when the home team sucks, it’s hard to be really interested in the NBA. So tomorrow you get to watch the C’s stomp the Bulls during breakfast.
BTW, I lived in Eastie twenty years ago myself, but it’s even more congested and screwed up now- they never did close the Meridian St. bridge :)

by kenmaine on Apr 17, 2009 6:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope you guys return to the Finals.

I’m a Laker fan, and the Garnett injury is a bummer. I feel like we need another crack at you guys. So I’ll be rootin’ for you guys in the playoffs.

I want you guys to take out the Cavs, please. I want to hear about Lakers vs. Celtics and not this Kobe vs. Lebron garbage. I’m getting so sick of Lebron. I want to hear about TEAM vs. TEAM. I’ll hand it to you guys, the Celtics are the epitome of TEAM. I’ll respect that.

by Chobe B on Apr 17, 2009 7:01 PM EDT reply actions  

We'll take it.

If the Celtics need to be the ones to stop the Kobe vs. LeBron talk, then so be it. I appreciate the comment Chobe B.

by Thruthelookingglass on Apr 17, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let's take comfort in a lesson from the past.

Of all NBA championships ever won by any team in history, only ONE of them has required Kevin Garnett.

Let’s go Celtics!

by nachoman on Apr 17, 2009 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Great post

I hope you guys win in the East.

I respectfully disagree about Rondo. I think the kid is still in the potential stage. With Garnett out, the Celts’ record wasn’t that stellar. And with a roster like that, if Rondo was one of the best in the game, he “could” have took over and win your team more games.
I remember someone said if Rondo can shoot a jump shot, he’d be in the Chris Paul level. I think it’s safe to say that’s an exaggeration.

He is very good. But still not there. Just my two cents.

by Azrael on Apr 17, 2009 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I Don't Think You Get Ubuntu

Not one of the Celtics is a top scorer. There is only one Celtic that can truly take over a game and he’s called “The Truth”. This is a team that plays as a team. It’s one for all and all for one. To say the Celt’s record wasn’t stellar with all they’ve been thru again shows you don’t get it. We won 62 games this year. Last year we won 66. We lost a game where the refs allowed 6 players to play against 5 (Portland). If it was 5 against 5 we had a chance to win. We lost 4 games more than last year with all the turmoil on the team so you can’t say our record isn’t stellar. It’s amazing. We have an all star player that was given the next to last game of the year, a meaningless game for us, the nite off by the Coach. That player refused to take that nite off and was critical to winning a game that we really didn’t need to win. Now, as to Rondo. I’m not saying he’s the best pg in the league, but I’m saying you don’t understand his game. Rondo is peculiar in that he is a pass first point guard. That means he sets up his teammates to score. Guys like Chris Paul are shoot first guards and thus have better stats. I think Rondo has outplayed Paul in every game they’ve played. As to Rondo’s jump shot, he really doesn’t need one, but regardless, you probably haven’t seen him hit jumpers lately. I also think his field goal % is among the best among the leagues pg’s. The Celtics play as a team. In most games no single player stands out. It is only when they aren’t playing well that one player needs to do more than he usually does. Rondo has taken over games when needed. The Celtics also have a thing called “feed the pig”. That means that if a play is working well they run it over and over again until it doesn’t work anymore. If a shooter is hot, that guy gets the ball over and over until he stops hitting. I agree with your very last statement about Rondo and that is very scary. Yes Rondo can get better. That is scary. In closing the three top players on the team point to Rondo as the guy that allows them to win consistently. These three players are future Hall Of Famers and they are talking about a guard who is really in his third year. He didn’t play much his first year and in his second year he was the starting point guard on the World Champion Boston Celtics. Chis Paul nor any other point guard in the league started for the Champs. What Rondo means to this team speaks for itself and he needs no comparisons made between other players. The big ring and the “Gold” ball speak for Rondo and his teammates. Sorry for the rant. But yesterday was a bad day for Celtic fans. We were told KG is unable to play in the playoffs and even worse our GM suffered a heart attack. Thankfully he is okay.

"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
"Criminally Negligent Officiating"--Tommy Heinsohn

by TrueGreen on Apr 17, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great Post, TG, and true rant... RROONDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We got guts and heart, talent and coaching… they’re gonna have to take it away from us…

by jyrecelts on Apr 17, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huh? Do you watch all the Celtics games? When Rondo plays well, so does the Celtics. Rondo was also hurt in the two weeks after the Orlando game. He was noticeablely slower. Now he seems to be back at 100%, watch out folks.

by tmak26b on Apr 18, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hello. Best wishes from a Suns fan but Celtics admirer and well-wisher. Here’s hoping your team gets to the Finals and beats either the Los Angeles Fakers or the Cleveland Have-a-Beers.

by lonesomepoint on Apr 17, 2009 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

PLAYOFFS!

Like some of you, I spent the better part of 2 decades following a team that didn’t have a hope of being a Finals contender (briefly interrupted by a Cinderella appearance in the Conference Finals ).

The fact that this team finished with 62 wins coming off an extended post season with all of the injuries they suffered tells me this team has more heart and determination than anyone gave them credit for.

Most of the experts predicted the C’s would drop off this year. If you had told them half the roster, included KG would miss big chunks of the season, they would have penciled the team in for 45 wins.

I don’t think the C’s overachieved or coasted. They had teams giving them their best shot every night. And they still won games.

For me, this season’s performance is even more impressive than last year’s.

I can’t wait to see more.

by LuckyNumber07 on Apr 17, 2009 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

BTW, this seems to be a well-moderated forum. No flaming.

Here are the rest of my nicknames for NBA teams (some teams have names that can’t be mocked):

Sacramento Queens
Golden State Pacifists
Los Angeles Clinkers
Utah Spazz
Dallas Mud
Houston Rocks
San Antonio Squirts (or, San Antonio Spuds)
Denver Nougats
Memphis Pandas
Chicago Fools
New York Hicks
New Jersey Nuts
Atlanta Hogs
Miami Cold

by lonesomepoint on Apr 17, 2009 8:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Think I need to find a way to give you a tommy point. And thanks for the kind thoughts too. ; )

by Thruthelookingglass on Apr 17, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

very well written mr. clark, inspiring and honest. C’s 09 lets go get another one!

by Ahmeddatruth on Apr 17, 2009 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

PP should’ve been vocally leading the Celtics team more than the last quarter of a meaningless last game of the season. KG was new last year and he seemed to have more control and influence on the Celtics team than PP did after being in Boston his whole career. It’s about time he stepped up and spoke up.
All the best though to Mr. Ainge. Get better soon.

by NBA FAN on Apr 18, 2009 12:44 AM EDT reply actions  

34 lincoln has never existed, 20 celtics is a much more rounded player. 34 celtics takes over games and creates his own pace regardless of whether 9 green is on the court or not. this teams success relies completely on themselves, and to know what each teammate is capable of in a game setting. to push each other and get the best out of one another, but, to at the same time not force the issue and exploit each strength which, to a young team who executes incorrectly, can become a weakness. a healthy tony allen and a budding starrrrrrrrbury can benefit from a shooter like eddie house. and eddie house can shoot.

by MichaelJCraven on Apr 18, 2009 1:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Drive and eastie Rich

F.Y.I. eastie Rich-I’ve been a Celtic Die Hard and have bled Celtic Green for 40+ years win or lose and always will. I also have eyes and a brain. Without K.G. the C’s will not win it all. One thing L.A. and Clevland learned after last year is they have to bang heads with the Celtics to beat them. Without K.G. the C’s don’t have the heads to bang. Mikki Moore can’t bang heads with his shadow. If K.G. can play 30 minutes a game we can win it. No K.G. no championship. THAT’S MY OPINION AND I"M ENTITLED TO IT.

by Celtics9Lakers2 on Apr 18, 2009 5:03 AM EDT reply actions  

great one, jeff. yes i believe!

we need the spirit of ’69!

by celtsucka on Apr 18, 2009 11:45 AM EDT reply actions  

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