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Ray Of Hope

Thank you Ray Allen!!!

I've got to tell you, I've seldom watched a game with so much dread and pessimism.  Especially once Rondo went down with another ankle injury.  Every time the Celtics did something good, the Bulls answered right back.  Thankfully Ray Allen found his stroke in the 2nd half and sealed the game with a huge three pointer.

Hats off to Rajon Rondo too.  He looked a lot slower after the injury but still managed to top off a triple double. 

Updated thoughts:

The Good News

  • The goal was to bounce back and win the 2nd game.  Done.
  • Derrick Rose, though effective, was not the dominant force he was in game 1.
  • Big Baby had an excellent start and a good game overall.
  • I'm not sure I'd ever call Perkins clutch, but that's just what he was.  A key rebound and putback plus a key block down the stretch helped win the game.
  • That might have been the best the Bulls could have played (42 for Gordon, 10 blocks between TT and Noah) and we still beat them.

The Bad News

  • It is only game 2 and Pierce looks worn out.
  • Their frontcourt is playing much, much better than I gave them credit for.  Again, it reminds me of the way the Hawks altered and rejected shot after shot in the first round last year.
  • If Rondo's ankle swells up overnight, we're in a heap of trouble.  He's been our best player, hands down.  Without him, we're toast.
  • Our bench scored 9 points.

Next!

Now we have to go to Chicago and at least win a game.  I can't call it "steal" a game because I still think we're the better team.  We should be able to beat this team anywhere.  Maybe if Ray can stay on course for the whole game it will be better for us.  Our defense really needs to step up in a big way.  Doc and the staff were able to adjust to limit Rose a little more today, but now we have Gordon to worry about.  It will be interesting to see what they come up with next.

The bottom line is that the Celtics survived this game more than they won it.  Had they lost, it would have been the boxing equivalent of a one-two punch that would have left us staggering backwards.  Thankfully the Celtics got a good punch in just before the bell.  But not before feeling worked over.

We've seen the best they have to offer and we're tied 1-1.  That's a start.

Update on Leon from The Boston Globe

Leon Powe sprained his left knee during the first half of Monday night's win over the Chicago Bulls and did not return. Powe received an MRI on his knee during the game and is questionable for the rest of the series.

When it rains it pours apparently.

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 I want to go to Uconn and learn to play some ball

wow

by TheAncientRivalry on Apr 20, 2009 9:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Did you know VDN got a vote for Coach of the Year?

BEST TIMEOUT MANAGEMENT EVER
……………………….
Great game. It kind of irritates to lose like that. Allen hit a monster shot.

Joakim Noah: Better than you.

by Prevenge on Apr 20, 2009 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, it sure hurts to lose a close playoff game. Think the Bulls are playing so well to spite VDN? Man Gordon was frightening tonight.

by Thruthelookingglass on Apr 20, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ray giveth, Ray taketh away...(our victory)

good game tonight for the Celtics.

We’ll see you in Chicago thursday for Round 3.

...there's some folks that, if they don't know, you can't tell 'em.

by Envy on Apr 20, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's just ... we had two seconds left, but he took Gordon out and we had no timeouts.

For the second game in a row we had no timeouts to draw up something – anything! – at the end of the game.

Joakim Noah: Better than you.

by Prevenge on Apr 20, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

C.L.U.T.C.H.

That’s how you come back from a 4 point game…

by noro on Apr 20, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Walter Raymond Allen. . .

is a great name for a first born son, isn’t it? Has a nice ring to it 8-)

by MetroGlobe on Apr 20, 2009 9:57 PM EDT reply actions  

i could be wrong, but i think it is just walter ray, not raymond

by Berkcelt on Apr 20, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ray is back and...

Rajon Rondo: 19pts, 12reb, 16assists, 5steals, only 2 TOs. Current series Assist/TO ratio: 7.5 to 1.

by illantari on Apr 20, 2009 9:57 PM EDT reply actions  

RAY!
Ben Gorden was pretty ridiculous tonight…

by drod400 on Apr 20, 2009 9:57 PM EDT reply actions  

re; gordon

yep making shots and ignoring wide open teammates…it was an unbelievable shooting display

by Berkcelt on Apr 20, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

incredible

i cannot believe ray blew up like that in the 2nd half. but even more incredible i cant beleive ben gordon was playing with the easy button in his shorts

by threats13 on Apr 20, 2009 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Great title

Perk Rondo and BBD were also huge

nice nice win. PP puzzles me big time – any thoughts about what is his deal – looks lethargic and timid/???

Keep the faith

Peace

Is it Soup Yet?

by Master Po on Apr 20, 2009 9:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Pierce looks worn out

He’s had to play so hard during the regular season without KG, had to shore up the defensive load. You just hope he doesn’t give out before the playoffs end.

Bork bork bork!

by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 20, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

enigma

I think Paul is trying too hard to be calculating and efficient. As a result, he looks passive and lethargic. He’s in “technician mode” for some reason. I don’t think he’s tired or worn out. Cripes, look at that last game against the Sixers last week – he was playing out his mind like a wild man, yelling at teammates and stuff. Hopefully he He snaps out of it and goes into berzerker mode on the road in these next 2.

by MetroGlobe on Apr 20, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, like i said to my father: paul looked old out there tonight. father said: he is old.

I don’t know how much he played but i think it’s time for tony allen to get some of his minutes (and marbury’s too)

by Berkcelt on Apr 20, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

there is a great post

on Hardwood Paroxysm about game 1 in which several reasons are told why the author thinks he is injured. that might very well be the case. I really, really hope he’ll get better VERY soon

Once upon a time the Suns got out on the break... and along came Steve sucKerr

by Murcy on Apr 21, 2009 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Perk is a BEAST!

Perk, Rondo, Ray, Big Baby, PP … all stepped up big time in this game.

Perk and Powe... the Next Big Thing

by FLCeltsFan on Apr 20, 2009 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

thank you, ray. thank you.

by celtsucka on Apr 20, 2009 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

PP is Tired

his jump shots blocked easily Thank goodness Ray found his J in the second half as Rondo was relegated to playmaking as he was playing on one leg…BBD was awesome as well, great pick for Ray by the end…I hope DA did not watch that game..It sure makes my heart beat faster.

by bopna on Apr 20, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

“I hope DA did not watch that game..It sure makes my heart beat faster.”

That’s what I was thinking.

by Jordinho on Apr 20, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow! (cont'd)

That’s really an exciting finish and all, and I am glad to see Ray get back on track, but if we don’t start playing some defense it really isn’t going to matter. Giving up 30 pts a quarter is not going to get it done. It isn’t like we let them go off in one quarter, we consistently let them score on us. How they think they are going to have success against a young team playing their game is beyond me. We set the tone from the first of the game that we were just going to try and run with them. All that got us was injured and tired. We better play our game and stop trying to show that we can outscore them…

by EJPLAYA on Apr 20, 2009 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Leon is in the hospital

getting an MRI. Can we ever get a freaking break?

by C's09Champs on Apr 20, 2009 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

FREE GABE PRUITT

I realize that Doc Rivers isn’t very bright. But at some point he will have to use Gabe Pruitt or Tony Allen (on Ben Grodon) if he expects to win this series.

by Brickowski on Apr 20, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I’d go with Tony Allen. Couldn’t believe he didn’t put him in this game.

by Berkcelt on Apr 20, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are sippin on that haterade...

Doc Rivers isn’t very bright?? That comment is well…not very bright. To make matters worse you want him to play Gabe Pruitt? Let’s be realistic, the shots Ben Gordon was hitting were not guardable. When a guy is hitting step back fadeaway 19 footers, there is no defense for that. I completely agree with getting Tony Allen some run. I think Tony Allen can contribute at a higher level than Steph right now…it’s the safer play…Steph looks very unsure of himself out there right now…Tony Allen played the 5-10 minute role very well last year, so his confidence is a lot higher than Steph’s.

But seriously, Gabe Pruitt? Bill Walker is seeing the floor well before Gabe Pruitt does…If Vegas put out a line on most minutes played in this year’s playoffs….KG or Gabe, i’d take KG in a heartbeat.

SCOTT

by Vegas Scott on Apr 21, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agree on Gabe. He’s not playing and I see no reason for it. But I disagree about Gordon’s shots being unguardable. Some of them maybe, but Tony is a much more physical and in your face player than Ray. Plus Tony could neutralize Gordon’s strength advantage. I think he could have gotten BG out of his comfort zone.

by Berkcelt on Apr 21, 2009 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Some of them?

Were we watching the same game? I saw Ben Gordon make like 2 or 3 easy shots all night. 85% of his shots were at least somewhat contested tonight. Gordon went 14-24 from the floor tonight and only 3 of his shot attempts were inside the paint. He took 21 shots outside of 8 feet and 12 of them went in. He took 11 3s and hit 6 of them. Again, he was contested on 80% of those. I’d say about 7 of his 14 made shots were off balanced also. The guy was completely in the zone, nobody was doing anything about it.

SCOTT

by Vegas Scott on Apr 21, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just saw Ray getting to his shooting hand late quite a bit. I didn’t really track it so maybe my impression was wrong, but it looked like he was well elevated over the defense most of the time.

He was certainly making some tough shots, but Tony Allen is a better perimeter defender than Ray Allen, esp. on the ball. Looked like they made an adjustment at some point and Baby was showing hard so Gordon couldn’t get a catch and shoot. He was making a dribble move after that. I think Tony could’ve handled him better at that point. Would he have necessarily shut him down? I’m not really saying that. But Tony plays aggressive enough that he could’ve just taken some of those shots away or made Gordon a driver. It would’ve been interesting to see how he did then.

by Berkcelt on Apr 21, 2009 6:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

WOW

You get your money’s worth? Geez, Ray. Way to break out.

Great play all around. How about Rondo? Is that his first Playoff triple double? I doubt it will be his last…

by LuckyNumber07 on Apr 20, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Ray was the hero but Perk and Baby were immense. Thankfully, the refs swallowed the whistles in the 2d half which allowed Perk and Baby to get away with a lot of contact. Their muscle helped negate Chicago’s height advantage inside.

by TheRev72 on Apr 20, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Hat tip to the Bulls though...

These Baby Bulls are growin up right before our eyes I wouldn’t be very surprised if they knock us out…I hope Gordon does not have another game like tonight, He was just unconscious

by bopna on Apr 20, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Game of the year

Clearly, this game was the biggest one for the Celtics this year. So many things went wrong in the game, Rondo getting hurt, Gordon hitting all of his shots, Pierce getting blocked and turning the ball over everytime in the end, but the team kept fighting and Ray finally hit this amazing shot after an excellent second half overall.

This kind of games reminds me why I love this game so much and especially why I love this team so much. There’s been so much questions about its intensity and desire these last couples of weeks that I’m so glad that the Celtics won it. This game was clearly a must win, should the team have lost, it would have been “destroyed” psychologically like last year’s Suns after game 1 in San Antonio. Now the series is tied, and even if the Bulls will be tough to beat at home, I’m proud of the Celtics and this game will be remembered. Heart of a Champion.

By the way, talking of heart, I thought mine was going to stop on every play at the end of the game… Epic! I loved Doc’s comment in the postgame conference when he said first that he hoped Danny didn’t watch the game. :D

by Drucci on Apr 20, 2009 10:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Rondo just incredible

I would not take ANY point guard over him right now. Simply the most well rounded Point Guard in the league. I never heard about Rose all night. Even after Rondo rolled an ankle. It is just sad that injuries just keep getting us. We must get a pick in the first round of this years draft

by ctrey on Apr 20, 2009 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

wish i could listen to mike and tommy :( …but on the bright side anyone is better than Jon Barry…

by Berkcelt on Apr 20, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice win..but i feel like i am

waiting for the other shoe to drop…they look tired and are just beat up…with that…i dont expect ben gordon to do that again….need to win game 3 for some hope

by celticinorlando on Apr 20, 2009 10:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Mikki Moore: Minus 17
Stephon Marbury: Minus 15

by Brickowski on Apr 20, 2009 10:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Yea these guys are terrible and we really need get rid of them in the offseaon

by Marqui on Apr 20, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought Mikki Moore...

played well tonight…plus minus is the dumbest stat in basketball…there is no consistent science too it…it’s based more on the performance of the 4 players on the court with a player….80% of the result of a plus minus stat is not with the player being judged…therefore it should be irrelevant. Tony Allen should be playing over Steph though. He’s just a better basketball player right now. Even if this leaves us without a true point guard on the 2nd unit, we won a championship last year without one really (Cassell ended up getting benched later in the playoffs). If Leon is able to return, I think the best solution is to give all of the bench front court minutes to Leon. Also, I think the Celtics are better off going small at times than playing Mikki Moore. Pierce could be so dangerous at the 4. Not sure why Doc doesn’t go to that more often.

SCOTT

by Vegas Scott on Apr 21, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mikki

got called for garbage fouls, he didn’t do anything they over whistled him, ridiculous. hey refs stop whistling my boy Mikki

by tonyallenisbest on Apr 21, 2009 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dfence

Brick, I agree. During the game I’m wondering when Doc may throw Tony in there on Gordon even if to give him a different look. But then I realized that Tony really isn’t in Doc’s rotation at all. Too bad cause Tony may be the only one who can really stay with Gordon.

by celty86 on Apr 20, 2009 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Personally, I would have run Tony out there – for a couple of possessions at a time – on Gordon and then hustled him out of there before he did something stupid with the basketball.

Now that we’ve had the plaintive pleas for Tony and Pruitt, anyone care to log in for Bill Walker, J.R. Giddens, Gerald Green, Patrick O’Bryant, Darius Miles, Orien Greene and anyone else from the litany of Celtic bench fodder that have failed to earn Doc’s trust?

The reality hurts: Doc has six players he can play.

by CoachBo on Apr 20, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

eddie and powe make 7

love the comment, but which six do you mean. obv not mikki…

by Slick on Apr 20, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tony

I wish Doc would play Tony more and Steph less

by celty86 on Apr 20, 2009 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

about the defense

two issues…one, the refs called them for a lot of touch fouls early, which took some of the aggressiveness out. you cannot get into foul trouble when your team is depleted. two, a lot of the bulls shots were insane. ray played pretty decent defense on ben gordon, but he was hitting everything. same thing with rose in game 1. that being said, we’re not playing as well on defense as we need to, but these two factors have something to do with it.

by guy incognito on Apr 20, 2009 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Ray Allen with an elbow to the groin of the Chicago Bulls.

by jek29 on Apr 20, 2009 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Thank you...

…Vinny Del Negro for sitting Tyrus Thomas in the 4th and not leaving yourself a T.O. to advance the ball and set up a last shot.

by ChainSmokingLikeDino on Apr 20, 2009 10:23 PM EDT reply actions  

well, he IS from Boston (hometown)

perhaps he’s a double agent ;-)

...there's some folks that, if they don't know, you can't tell 'em.

by Envy on Apr 20, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vinny is from Springfield, MA

by Berkcelt on Apr 20, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

my mistake

I should have known better. He actually said that in a profile at the beginning of the season.

He just said we was a Boston fan growing up. Same result, though, eh?

...there's some folks that, if they don't know, you can't tell 'em.

by Envy on Apr 21, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

HE

...there's some folks that, if they don't know, you can't tell 'em.

by Envy on Apr 21, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Marbury Must Be Benched

He’s killing us, just like he killed so many other teams.

WAKE UP, DOC!!!!!

by Brickowski on Apr 20, 2009 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Meh

Marbury is playing scared, that’s all. Doc needs to tighten up his rotation and figure out what he wants to accomplish. Marbury should only be playing point guard…bring him in at 2 guard (like he did tonight) and it just gets Marbury to 2nd guess himself (he had a hard time figuring out the plays as PG—putting him at shooting guard where he’s asked to shoot is a mistake, since he still hasn’t gotten confidence back in his shot).

by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Apr 20, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

stop dissin the Star

he’ll be there don’t worry Brooklyn always finds a way!

by tonyallenisbest on Apr 21, 2009 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

actually, we can continue to play this way

but unfortunately, we will continue to be coached this way, as well.

...there's some folks that, if they don't know, you can't tell 'em.

by Envy on Apr 20, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

What up C's fans?

  Good win tonight for you guys, big shot from Ray. But I can’t help but wonder if the Bulls have all the momentum and confidence in this series right now. Think about it, they won Gm 1 on your floor, and they took you to the limit tonight. They could’ve just as easily won this game with the ridiculous way Gordon was playing tonight, and all the shots Thomas and Noah were swatting on the defensive end, not to mention PP being completely ineffective. If they played you this tough on your floor, imagine how they’ll be on their own floor with all the energy and fans behind them. Plus, there’s no pressure on them to win this series, it’s all on you guys. I wish ya’ll luck (although I wish my Magic better luck, we have our own issues to iron out).

by pjlawrence81 on Apr 20, 2009 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

that is because boston

is running out of players…bulls have played over their heads the last 2 games…we will see what happens

by celticinorlando on Apr 20, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

and...

…not to harp but there are a ton of “and how” and “not to mention” that say the way things tend to not go. pp will be play better odds are. ben gordon won’t be as unconscious probably. there are many variables to a game. who knows how they will turn out each time the teams take the floor. obviously i hope the c’s prevail but here’s to good basketball and friendly competition.

by ChainSmokingLikeDino on Apr 20, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm

I can eaily imagine the young Bulls tightening up on their home court as the reality that they could win sinks in, and the pressure rises. And the C’s know they have to win one in Chicago. Hey, we easily could be up 2-0 in this series, and we’re starting to show signs and stretches of playing the right way: we’re defending Rose better, rebounding better. All of us know this team has issues, but nobody is giving up while there are still games to play. (Well, a couple of people have, but they’re just annoying.)

by MattD on Apr 20, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

agree, let's have TA play gordon mid-game

and no pressure to win in game 3. we have 3 chances to beat them in chicago.

gotta like doc’s sub patterns tonight.

paulie will have his moment of truth.

channeling RFK right now: “let’s move on to chicaahgo and win there …”

by celtsucka on Apr 20, 2009 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I know that Celtics defense is there somewhere

We saw it in the Spurs game (though we had KG briefly) and the Cavs game at Boston. I wonder if it would actually really help to have Scal back, but with the way the Bulls play D I fear for his head!

by illantari on Apr 20, 2009 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

The Allens

Tony couldn’t come in for Ray in this game; Ray needed to stay in as he was the only offense. The ball wasn’t moving without him and for as good as Tony can be on D, he’s no Pippen or Artest. He’s still raw and we needed our best players on there to win tonight. I’m sure TA will come in the next game, as we may have to play small if Powe is hurt and Mikki is as poor as he was tonight. Either way, big win with Powe out, Rondo hurt and Ben Gordon en fuego.

by Jonny UT on Apr 20, 2009 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

In the first half...

TA was definitely needed (Ray still didn’t have it going). And by not playing him in the first half, Doc was afraid to play him down the stretch, when he easily could have done offense/defense substitutions for the last two possession (which both ended with Gordon jumpers).

by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Apr 20, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree. marbury’s rope was too long if you ask me. Tony might have been able to give PP a blow too. He was the one who really needed it in the second half.

by Berkcelt on Apr 20, 2009 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course ray was the hero, but my tommy point goes to rondo who played the whole 2nd half on 1 leg and managed the offense and did not let rose take him to the cleaners. that jump shot near the end of the game was also huge. perk and rondo have become all stars- it’s too bad about the injuries and the lack of depth. i agree with all the folk who were looking for tony allen. i guess we will see scal and i hope he doesn’t have to take any fouls to the head.

by nazzbo on Apr 20, 2009 10:48 PM EDT reply actions  

+1 up for Rondo

plus he kept us in the game, with the shot prior to Rays…..it was sort of looking downhill before Rondo took the ball into his own hands the beautiful crossover – swish to keep us in reach!!!!!!!!!!

"....you can't handle The Truth"

by kheeko on Apr 20, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

We officially have no bench.

Don’t get me wrong, that 3 was sweet.

But the Celtics played 6 guys in the 2nd half, unless you count Moore for 40 seconds and Marbury for 5 seconds.

This is what it looks like when you win the battle but lose the war, I am terribly sad to say. Unless we somehow can get by Chicago in 5 (doubtful) and get rest, we are toast.

by csung on Apr 20, 2009 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I think Doc has to play the bench guys

Just be smart about it. None of the 5 bench guys playing at once that we had in game 1. Control the pace so that things don’t get out of hand. Use TA for a few minutes here and there, especially around quarters and TV timeouts. Eddie when the matchups dictate. I’d play Pruitt over Marbury, frankly. But if Ray gets his offense going, that realy helps, because it lets us rest Pierce a bit — I’d always have Pierce or Ray out there, and ideally Perk or BBD. That may mean taking guys out earlier in quarters, and then bringing them back in sooner. If we get Scal back, that would help, as I worry about our bigs getting into foul trouble in Chicago. Hopefully Powe can play as well.

by MattD on Apr 20, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

without powe and kg

every game is going to look too much like tonight.

40+ minutes for ray, pierce, davis, perkins. an unproductive bench. opponents scoring over 100 without trying. some team taking us out, sooner of later. i love the excitement of the win tonight but it said a lot more about the celts to not come out and dominate (like the spurs did in the same situation).

i don’t want to lose but can’t say i’m looking forward to much about round 2.

by csung on Apr 21, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was fun to win like that

but I personally didn’t come out of it pounding my chest or anything.

We’re just not playing good basketball right now. Unfortunately, the Bulls are going to their court now with I think just as much confidence as they had after Game 1. This was a very close game pretty much the entire 2nd half. They hung with the Champs. I believe the home crowd carried the Celts through this one and not sure how it’d of turned out had they been playing away. I guess the same could be said about the Bulls had the courts been reversed, but I’m not concerned with how they’re playing.

It’s imperative that the Celtics start playing from the defensive end first and letting their offensive game be the result of effective defense. That’s how they won last year. It hurts not having KG out their because he’s our best defensive player and gives us a great deal of confidence. Rose is not taking it to the hole nearly as much if KG’s in there. Not to take anything away from Rose, but our defense has been easily penetrable – more so Game 1.

This series is going to be a grind.

by BOSPORTS on Apr 20, 2009 10:56 PM EDT reply actions  

If you expect their defense to pick up in this series

Youll be disappointed as long as KG is out.
Scal could possibly help though.

by Marqui on Apr 20, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do belive it can pick up

To the caliber as it would be with KG in? Of course not.

The Bulls are a good team, but their consistent penetration is unacceptable and a lot of the times the result of the Celtics missing on the defensive end.

by BOSPORTS on Apr 20, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Powe got hurt

That’s probably the biggest story out of this game going into Thursday. According to reports, ’it’s not good,’ whatever that means. He’s having an MRI at the hospital tonight, so you have to figure he’s out at least 2 games. The Cs are especially careful with Leon’s knees because he’s had reconstructive surgery on both of them.

Now, we only have 2 decent bigs going into Thursday, one terrible last resort guy (Moore) and one guy coming off a concussion who may or may not be available. Baby and Perk are going to have to play 40 minutes+ for us to have even a chance. Not good news.

by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Apr 20, 2009 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope Bill Walker is ready, because the way Paul looked out there tonight, he ain’t going to be able to bang much at the 4.

by Berkcelt on Apr 21, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

 we won and our guys played with a tremendous amount of heart, well at least the starters did. the bulls literally are playing out of their mind…I dont know who Ive seen play better then theyre playing right now against us at home..noone…so a hat tip to them.

by TheAncientRivalry on Apr 20, 2009 11:14 PM EDT reply actions  

If we were healthy

We would be blowing them out like we did in the regular season /

by Marqui on Apr 20, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree. They’re obviously a better now than when we blew them out (with KG) before. They’ve risen a little and we’ve fallen. I think the Celtics can definitely play better, but I have to give the Bulls credit.

by Berkcelt on Apr 21, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea your right they are definitely better now and deserve credit

But I still firmly believe this would be an easy series for us if we were fully healthy.

by Marqui on Apr 21, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

ah, sorry, i think i misread what you wrote…definitely would be easier if we were healthy.

by Berkcelt on Apr 21, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing like last year

No KG, likely no Powe, and an injured Rondo. Totally different than last year. No front court likely means a quick end to our title defense. I hate to say it, but the C’s appear cursed this year.

by vinnie on Apr 20, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone arguing pruitt should play is ridicoulous…obviously theres an argument TA should play, but then again I have no trust in the guy, he could just as easilly lose us the game, bite on every ben gordon pump fake then he could help us.

by TheAncientRivalry on Apr 20, 2009 11:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Anyone but Marbury

I’d rather see Bryan Doo in the game than Marbury. Or maybe Doc Rivers can suit up.

by Brickowski on Apr 20, 2009 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Brick, Brick, Brick, give the guy a break...

Doc is smart, he manages minutes and situations well enough to get us to the winning point in most of our games, and marbury will make a huge contribution, you will see…

by jyrecelts on Apr 21, 2009 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

stop dissin

stop dissin Star and Mikki you don’t know what you are talking about these guys can do it

by tonyallenisbest on Apr 21, 2009 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

think the bulls come back to earth in game 3

they have literally hit every jumper so far..and props to perk on the offensive glass tonight

by celticinorlando on Apr 20, 2009 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Time to be realistic

First, both a great and awful game to be at tonight. Awful mainly cos of the Celtics’ defense and great because of how exciting it was and that the C’s were able to pull it out. Now for the realistic. First, it appears Leon is going to be gone for the rest of the playoffs. They don’t send a guy for an MRI unless they think there is something major. That means our front court is now down to two bigs, and only one of them is really big. Scal will help, but it will be another small forward trying to play the 4. And forget about Mikki. Second, how do we know how well Rondo is going to respond to treatment on his ankle? Remember the last time he played after twisting it and then I believe he missed two games after that. Not a pretty picture we face and I believe the Bulls will win in either 5 or 6 games. Hate to say it, but…………………

by vinnie on Apr 20, 2009 11:22 PM EDT reply actions  

time to be realistic

We are the most storied and celebrated franchise of all time with more ghosts than a Haunted House ride in Disney World. We are the GREATEST TEAM EVER, with the most ridiculous turnaround in sports history. #18 is coming baby!! WE ARE BACK!! MAKE SOME NOISE!! LET’S GO!! Price of a playoff ticket $300, price of a hot dog $6, price of a Celtics T-shirt $20, Garnett’s face after Ray Ray knocks down the trey PRICELESS!!!

by tonyallenisbest on Apr 21, 2009 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

good win

still gotta come to chicago

It's tough to be around competitive situations . . . but I've been able to manage. I've been able to survive. (GOAT)

by Belize on Apr 20, 2009 11:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Jeff -- do you think the C's are the better team....

without Garnett, Powe and an injured Rondo? I just hope Rondo can play the next game, but do not think he will be anywhere near 100 percent. I would also say that I believe without Garnett and Power, the Bulls’ major front court advantage makes this an even series at best and my give the Bulls the edge.

by vinnie on Apr 20, 2009 11:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Too bad the Bulls coach loses games on his own

That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT

by Ozzie Montana on Apr 20, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Bulls are the better team with all our injuries

I think our team barley plays at a .500 level at this point

by Marqui on Apr 21, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

then go

hook up with Doug Collins if you think that, you can oooh and aaah when Gordon makes a free throw

by tonyallenisbest on Apr 21, 2009 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Our D wasn't bad... their O was just ridiculous

Gordon was just in a total ZONE tonight. Anything he threw up went in. Like Rose the night before. That’s hard to do night after night.

- The key is Rondo. If he’s out, we’re done. The way Marbury is playing, we effectively have no backup PG. This team’s destiny rests on Rondo’s shoulders.
- Paul will show up. He better, or we have no shot.
- What was that last play about? Is it possible that they called it for Ray to take a low percentage 3 when all they needed was an easy 2? I just hope that was a busted play.
- The Cs better step it up. There’s very little room for error this year. We need Paul AND Ray in BOTH halves of every game. Otherwise, we don’t make it, end of story.

by DRJ1 on Apr 20, 2009 11:53 PM EDT reply actions  

That was disappointing, but still Bulls/Celtics has given us 2 of the best games of the season

I thank the knees of Kevin Garnett for making it all possible.

That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT

by Ozzie Montana on Apr 21, 2009 12:12 AM EDT reply actions  

"anything is possible!!!!!"

(sorry)

USE THE SOFTWARE. Actions-> Rec/Flag. Reply to comments with the reply button. Rec good fanposts/fanshots so the crud gets pushed down.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 21, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

The key is still our D

We won. Ray Allen got out of the shooting slump in the perfect moment. All is good. But I still feel our intensity on D could be a notch or two higher. The Bulls kept coming back partly because they were hot but to a larger extent becasue we could not make stops.

The United Center has become a tough place to win for opposing teams. We need to play even better D to win there.

I won’t blame Marbury for his poor showing. He is not a sub and will never be comfortable as one. He needs to be on the court and play with the starters to be effective.

by This is NOT NOT our year on Apr 21, 2009 12:16 AM EDT reply actions  

I do blame Marbury

If you can play, play. I don’t get how being a sub makes it so much harder to do your thing. But at least he did try harder this time… more energy. He might still get it together. Even if he does though, we’re still going to be dependent on a healthy Rondo.

by DRJ1 on Apr 21, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Something special happened tonight...

Just realized that the REFS were pretty invisible in this game, like they’re supposed to be. No terrible calls, either way. Last game wasn’t too bad either (a little worse, but far from the horror shows we’ve seen). Same for the other playoff games I’ve seen. Is this a harbinger of change in the NBA, or a temporary fluke?

by DRJ1 on Apr 21, 2009 12:22 AM EDT reply actions  

I thought game 1 was garbage for the refs (in general, not just for the Cs), but Salvatore and Ed Rush are both pretty miserable. Tonight it was Javie and Garretson. I know some people don’t like Javie but I think he’s pretty good usually. Garretson is usually pretty solid too. They did a good job, pretty consistent, mostly invisible like everybody likes them.

by Berkcelt on Apr 21, 2009 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Series

Exciting game to watch, even as a Laker fan. The good news, Boston won and I would love a match-up with Boston in the finals. Bad news, it will not happen. What is most apparent as a neutral observer (honestly, would love to see Boston advance) is Chicago’s legs and length. This loss tonight did NOTHING to shake this young Chicago team…they took one from Boston and barely lost the second at the Garden. and nothing about the play is “fluky”…watching the second half of tonight’s game, you could see Chicago’s quickness prevail…a few of those final offensive boards were just lucky, long bounces…had they shot’s actually been closer, those would have been Chicaog’s and game over. Derrick Rose and Ben Gordon are as cold blooded if not more so than Pierce and Rondo. They have to feel good going back to the United Center. I read a lot about summoning up defense, or playing like last year etc….unfortunately, i think this is the boston team right now. What significant adjustments can be made with the current roster? Gabe Pruitt? TA? Walker? Come on. a couple of those names might well be future D-leaguers (no offense). 9 points of the bench, AT HOME, that is an incredible statistic.
Anyway, a very fun finish but sure a hell way too much work from a short handed team about to travel in the first round of the playoffs.
sorry

by lakersbluedevil on Apr 21, 2009 12:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Nothing to be sorry about

You’re right. We barely won against the 7th seed. After losing the opener. At home. Does not bode well.

The only light on the horizon is what Paul said… we haven’t brought our A game yet. Maybe when we do we’ll see a blowout… after all, the Bulls hit many ridiculous shots these last two game.

But they have youth, energy, talent and heart all going for them.
We on the other hand are a team severely depleted by injuries, and our captain is looking pretty tired.

Btw, hope your Lakers make it to the Finals. Hope to meet you there again, but I wouldn’t bet too much on it.

by DRJ1 on Apr 21, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

http://irudey.mybrute.com/
Fun little Time waster!

by Rudey on Apr 21, 2009 12:39 AM EDT reply actions  

I know your a Bulls fan and that you're down on KG.

But I actually enjoyed the clip.

Anyway, respect due to the Bulls.

by The Walker Wiggle on Apr 21, 2009 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

More then anything

just looking for what Celts fans thought about his antics.

:P

http://irudey.mybrute.com/
Fun little Time waster!

by Rudey on Apr 21, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

KG's face

Look at Garnett’s face he is unstoppable out there!! WE NEED YOU OUT THERE KG!!

by tonyallenisbest on Apr 21, 2009 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good, Needed Win...

But you have got to be worried. The Garden 2.0 was cheering like they won a championship, but it was just one game. That came down to the wire. Against the Bulls. At home. To say this game was a must win is beside the point. Losing at home against the number 7 seed in the first round for the defending Champs? Whether this team can even get out of the first round is still questionable, let alone against an actual playoff caliber team. Scary.

by LeBreaBean on Apr 21, 2009 12:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Right

Just would add… Bulls look entirely playoff caliber to me, these past two games. They would give any team a hard time. Versus Orlando, for example, I’d put my money on the Bulls.

by DRJ1 on Apr 21, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

My money is also on the Bulls!…this team is tough as nails and they have no pressure at all with them so they are flying under the radar…they hardly look like a seventh seed to me, they are obviously better than the Sixers and perhaps even better than Wade and the Heat( this team is also depleted they don’t have Deng)..If they advance then Orlando will have a hard time dispatching them as well…..
Remember, in the playoffs, you thow out every statistic you have against other ballclubs out of the window, there is a reason why each yr there is a top 4 seed that is knocked off by a lower seeded team and that is because the playoffs is an all new season, just because teams were barely .500 does not mean they cannot advance, just ask Dallas, Seattle,Miami and all other teams in the past that had to deal with lower seed but got the boot…..In the playoffs its all about matchups and if a team matches up pretty well with you, your going to have to grind it out to get out of that series.
      RONDO is our catalyst, I hope he can still be an aggressor in game 3 coz if he does not have his speed with this injury, then we are toast…It already is pretty evident he lost his legs in the second half I would guess he was playin on adrenaline and perhaps Cortisol shots.

by bopna on Apr 21, 2009 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

because we are the Champions!!

the crowd was cheering like they won a championship because we did win a championship!! and now we’re doing it again. We are the CHAMPS!!

by tonyallenisbest on Apr 21, 2009 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Guess I'm up on the street lingo

I thought it was just “Bulls Eye” since they are the bulls and he circled his eye. Like made bucket = bulls eye.

by Slick on Apr 21, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scal back for game 3?

With Powe probably out, he would really be helpful

by greenwise on Apr 21, 2009 1:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Im worried about Foul trouble

for our Bigs in game 3…With Powe out and the game played out in Chicago were they will obviously get some home cookin, I wonder who do we play if Perk or BBD foul out.

by bopna on Apr 21, 2009 2:05 AM EDT reply actions  

LET"S GO!!

We are on fire right now!! We just turned the entire series around and gained huge momentum, the Bulls thought they were going to Chicago 2-0 and now its tied. We have all the momentum now that Ray Ray has bought us back to life. Everybody get up off of your feet and make some noise. The Champs are BACK!! We’re going all the way we are unstoppable right now. Ray can score 50 points in a game you have to believe, he has to make more of an effort to run from one side of the court to the other and get open for the threes, he has to run hard every time down the court to get open. KG is a huge inspiration to us and he has to stay out there. We are going to shock the world and the rest of the NBA is scared now that we are BACK!! LET’S GO!! And did anybody notice how Doug Collins had an orgasm every time the Bulls made a shot and didn’t say anything when the C’s scored, I know he used to coach the Bulls but all his moaning and groaning and oooohs and aaaahs everytime the Bulls scored was ridiculous. BOSTON IS BACK BABY LET’S GO!!!

by tonyallenisbest on Apr 21, 2009 2:16 AM EDT reply actions  

?

I don’t know we went from 24 wins in one year to 82 including the playoffs the next, so I guess I shouldn’t be optimistic according to you. Gee whiz we only won 58 more games in 08 then in 07, crushing the all-time professional sports record turnaround of 43 wins and this is 09 where we have 63 wins already.

by tonyallenisbest on Apr 21, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

As real as it gets

I was at the Garden tonight and the atmosphere was intense.

I thought the ball was going to Pierce and when the pass went to Ray I had a flashback to the Lakers game in February when Ray didn’t get clean shot and the C’s lost by one. Even the quiet Bull’s fan next to us admitted the shot was a nice three.

by littlegeo on Apr 21, 2009 2:56 AM EDT reply actions  

awesome

you are a real fan! wish I could have been there at the game with you. would have been going bananas!!

by tonyallenisbest on Apr 21, 2009 3:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

dude please chill out with the “you’re a real fan” / “you’re a hater” comments you’ve made throughout here.

When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"

by Green17 on Apr 21, 2009 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

?

no clue what you are talking about, calling someone a “real fan” what is wrong with that. never once called anybody a hater

by tonyallenisbest on Apr 21, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

fans

the guy went to the game and I congratulated him and I said I would have loved to be there at the game with him. where does “you’re a hater” fit into that scenario? never once called anybody a hater

by tonyallenisbest on Apr 21, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

We fixed the roof, but the pipe burst

The Celts controlled Rose, but allowed Gorden to go wild. An all-around defensive effort is what is needed to win in the Bulls home court. A couple of convincing wins, like what the Rockets did to the Trailbrazers the other night and the Spurs did to the Mavs tonight, will do wonder to our confidence.

by This is NOT NOT our year on Apr 21, 2009 5:34 AM EDT reply actions  

we got lucky

we played pretty good but we have no bench & no defense with all the injuries.
if we get past the bulls it will be a miracle.
the bulls should be up 2-0.

by tommyfan on Apr 21, 2009 8:03 AM EDT reply actions  

yes

i agree…that is the reality. how this game could be construed as a “big momentum” change. winning by a last second shot at home against the 7 seed.
really?
really?

by lakersbluedevil on Apr 21, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Take Kobe and another key player out of your lineup

and see how well your beloved Lakers would do. Then comeback and talk smack here, ok?

by vinnie on Apr 21, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

so

when a laker fan talks smack its not good, agreed, but when a celtics fan enjoys a win they are smoking something. what exactly are we supposed to do, not root against the team but not root for the team? I get it, next time Rodman blocks Bird with 3 seconds left I’ll just turn off my TV don’t want to risk the chance of smoking something.

by tonyallenisbest on Apr 21, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

They are killing me.......

Why, Why, Why, do they continue to play so poorly as a team and just eat my insides out….. Why are we allowing the other team to hang on…… We should be killing Chicago, and yet we continue to allow this team to look like they are Champions instead of us….

Who wants it more??? Chicago or Boston

I’m at the point where if it’s going to be a rollar coaster ride all series, just end it now and put us out of our misery so we can look at the next champions in this town…. THE BRUINS

by Ancient Red on Apr 21, 2009 8:47 AM EDT reply actions  

it’s laughable to me that people are shocked the bulls are playing us even.All I hear on TV is that the Bulls beat the Defending Champs! Let’s get real. The Defending Champs are the team with a healthy Kevin Garnett, Leon Powe, Brian Scalabrine and now Rajon Rondo. The defending champs had PJ Brown and James Posey. The team we have on the floor right now is not that team and last night’s game was won on sheer determination. This might be the closest team I’ve seen to the 86-87 team which won on guts alone. Doc now has no choice but to play his starters pretty much the entire game. And when he goes to his bench he’s going to have to go small. Mikki Moore has been a complete bust and to be honest so has stephon Marbury. Doc needs to give stephon the green light and tell him to start playing and stop thinking. For the life of me I can’t figure out how Tony Allen doesn’t get time defending ben gordon in last night’s game. I would consider putting tony on gordon and ray on salmons and then play pierce on thomas. We need to find a way to beat their shot blockers and more importantly Pierce needs to get his head in the game. He has played without any urgency or purpose for 2 games now so hopefully he snaps out of it in game 3. It was emarrassing to watch him not get back on D during several breaks by the bulls. Winning this series is still an uphill battle; we’re getting nothing from our bench and so far we’re not winning any of the individual matchups with the exception on rondo and he is now hurt. someone on our bench is going to have to step up.

by Red2 on Apr 21, 2009 9:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Bulls not there yet

If anyone saw the Bulls lose their final home game to Toronto you’ll know that this team is not as perfect as everyone is gushing about. They are definitely vulnerable to giving up 3’s and honestly they are not a great halfcourt defensive team. We’ve allowed them to score at will in 2 games but I think if we can get them into a half court , grind it out game we will have great success against them. We need to control the boards and move the ball on O. If we do that we should get good shots.

by Red2 on Apr 21, 2009 9:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Their final home loss

to Toronto may have been “helped along” by the fact that they knew KG was not going to be playing in this series. Winning that LHG would have placed them against Orlando instead of Boston. Knowing that the C’s were a walking wounded bunch may have affected their ‘ability to play’ in that game.
In any case, they are obviously brimming with confidence now and are returning to their home court where they have played extremely well (minus the Toronto finale). We will need an outstanding effort from everyone wearing Green in games 3&4 to garner a split and take this series back to our home court advantage.
Just a thought.

by DrD on Apr 21, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

forget about PERKS?

guys dont forget PERKS! good job on boards and those important BS! he had a great game as well!

by poezappa on Apr 21, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

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