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Sources: Tony's Troubles Deep

Mark Murphy reports:

Two Chicago sources familiar with Allen and his hometown associates - past and present - yesterday connected a group of Allen associates to a fatal shooting in the parking lot of the famous Rock ’n’ Roll McDonald’s last August.

The group had been attending a birthday party for former Celtic Antoine Walker at the downtown club Excalibur when a fight occurred, extending into the McDonald’s parking lot.

Curtis Ellis, 25, was killed, and another person riding in the same car with Ellis was taken to a nearby hospital in critical condition.

According to both sources, this is the same group that was with Allen when the Celtics guard had an early morning fight with Marktwain Johnson and Nigel Odum in a Chicago restaurant in August 2005.

Though Allen was charged with aggravated battery, the charges from the 2005 incident were later dismissed.

One source said that Allen later offered to pay the medical expenses for one of the two men - which man is unclear - though Rahsaan Gordon, the attorney representing Johnson and Odum in a pending civil suit, denied that claim yesterday.

Allen will return to Chicago in July for a court date in the civil suit. At that time he will have to testify about the 2005 incident.

Both sources said Allen’s current troubles are somehow connected to last summer’s incident, and that the Celtics guard allegedly has incurred a heavy financial debt to someone in Chicago and he now refuses to repay.

I'm not going to pass judgement without knowing all the facts, but if these rumors are true, it sure sounds like Tony needs some new friends (and a few good lawyers and financial consultants).  All in all it seems like a very unfortunate situation.

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My guess is that the civil suit will settle, with a nondisclosure agreement going forward. 98% of civil suits do.

by Brickowski on Apr 25, 2009 8:56 AM EDT reply actions  

If these rumors are true ...

they prove that TA’s unbelievable stupidity is not confined to the basketball court.

"People don't understand, if you can't live the rest of your life off one year in the NBA, you can't live off 21." -- Keon Clark

by Eeyore III on Apr 25, 2009 9:39 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

It just goes to show you nothing good can come out of going to a party

with Walker. Also, he needs one more thing on trips to Chicago, a bodyguard.

by eastie Rich on Apr 25, 2009 9:40 AM EDT reply actions  

"a group of Allen associates?

hahahahaha….. Tony’s troubles reminds me of a quote from the old movie Cool Hand Luke

“What we’ve got here is… failure to communicate. Some men you just can’t reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it… well, he gets it. I don’t like it any more than you men.”

Tony spends most of his career injured, long rehabs, or messing around with legal trouble, court dates and basically being a distraction and not a steady quiet “producer”. Only moments of brilliance has he shown.

The NBA doesn’t pay people very long for that kind of low output and poor decision skills. My guess is that TA has just about worn out his welcome in Boston and in the near future will be forced to move on. Bad breaks and bad decisions and “some men you just can’t reach” I wish him well and hope the best for him – but I am not optimistic.

Is it Soup Yet?

by Master Po on Apr 25, 2009 9:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed.

I’m with you Po; TA’s days in Celtic green are numbered

by DrD on Apr 25, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

if this is true...

cut him. we don’t need that kind of garbage on the team or in our city

by hpantazo on Apr 25, 2009 10:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Paging Bill Walker

your time is…..now….er….next October, during training camp.

by GLS on Apr 25, 2009 10:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Send him home

I think his Celtics career is just about over. At this point, I would send him home and pull an Iverson with him. The team does not need this distraction.

by Kuberski33 on Apr 25, 2009 10:37 AM EDT reply actions  

i agree, send him home

if it’s true that he is being targeted, we don’t need someone like rondo or ray to get hit by a stray bullet

by hpantazo on Apr 25, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

A rather simple Google reveals a fairly detailed pattern of this kind of trouble for Mr.Allen .

http://sports-law.blogspot.com/2005/10/tony-allen-and-whataburger-incident.html

I concur with the above poster: It’s time to move on past this guy.

by CoachBo on Apr 25, 2009 10:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Interesting info

and interesting point about the correlation between permanence in college and future legal troubles. I didn’t know that. Thanks for the link.

by cordobes on Apr 25, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

no talent, no class

gtfo please

God bless and good night!

by BrickJames on Apr 25, 2009 11:45 AM EDT reply actions  

The odds of a writer using “Tony Allen” and “deadly shooter” in the same sentence just increased exponentially.

by theBird on Apr 25, 2009 12:37 PM EDT reply actions  

That's wrong

I couldn’t avoid to chuckle though.

Oh well, hopefully Allen and his “associates” will find some common ground and some sort of agreement is reached. And let’s hope the team can win on Sunday in order to avoid another trip to Chicago.

by cordobes on Apr 25, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ditto. Too bad there aren’t TPs for this thread. I would have been forced by the laugh to hand one out.

by CoachBo on Apr 25, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scratch “public defender” from the Tony Allen lexicon after his memory lapses today, as well.

by CoachBo on Apr 26, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Celts knew of these problems last summer...

When they resigned him.

A combination of Walker, Pruitt, Giddens would`ve replaced TA easily.
TA`s money, and then some, should`ve went to resign Posey instead.

by Title 18 on Apr 25, 2009 12:39 PM EDT reply actions  

where these's smoke, there's fire

Tony made it. He’s in the League, part of the 0.0001%.

Hanging with your old crew, if they are eff ups, is not keeping it real. Its ignorant.

You MUST disconnect from anyone that can poses a risk to damage what you’ve worked for, and it sounds like this crew is a problem.

We’ve ALL had those friends. Its OK to evolve and fade them. Do it TA, then look in the mirror.

by BirdNerd on Apr 25, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

No, all of us haven’t had those sorts of friends.

by CoachBo on Apr 25, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or as Don Corleone said:

“Honorable men go with honorable men…..”

by csfansince60s on Apr 25, 2009 6:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Nothing new...

Prof athelete… bars.. parties…fights..get into troubles. It all sounds like a broken record (or CD). Hopefully TA can sort things out before something more serious happens.

by greennwin on Apr 25, 2009 8:41 PM EDT reply actions  

According to David Stern, this sort of thing happens all the time.

by Brickowski on Apr 25, 2009 9:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Exactly what the Celtics needed, another distraction.

Please get a win tomorrow and let’s get out of there.

by C's09Champs on Apr 25, 2009 9:03 PM EDT reply actions  

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