Much Ado About KG
A whole lot is being made out of this picture, so I thought I'd address it here.
A lot of the outrage is coming from Bulls fans, so I can write most of it off as bitterness and misdirected frustration. I am certain that if Garnett was on the Bulls, none of those fans would have any problems with how he acts.
With that said, there's a growing sentiment around the internet community (ie. bloggers) that KG has gone too far this year. Like somehow he's flipped a switch and gone over the top with his antics now that he's on a winner.
A Stern Warning sums the sentiment up nicely:
The question is, has Garnett always been this intensely arrogant and he just got a free pass because he played for the TWolves and everyone felt sorry for him and the losing ways he had to put up with? Or perhaps he was always this loudly irritating and it was merely a case of noone hearing it (if a KG barks in the woods of Minnesota and noone is there, does it make a noise?). Others have the theory that his behaviour has ramped up as a result of him joining a star-laden championship squad.
I'm obviously biased, but I don't see any difference in KG. I've always loved Garnett, even when he was on the Timberwolves. I distinctly remember him growling and yelling at Tim Duncan in the same way he's yelling at Gordon in the picture above.
Look, I get it. I understand why KG isn't everybody's cup of tea. He absolutely is over the top. He does talk trash. He does get down on his hands and knees for no apparent reason other than to fire himself (and perhaps his teammates and the fans) up. He did clap in the face of some opponents. This is all part of who he is and if you don't like that, fine.
Just understand that this is the same over-the-top intensity that drove him to be a superstar. It is the same fire that drove this team to a Championship last year.
So what has changed? I submit a few things have indeed changed. First of all the exposure has indeed put him under a greater microscope. More people are outraged by his actions because more people are seeing them.
Secondly, he has tasted his dream and he's hungry for more. His bubbling intensity was brilliantly focused in part by Ray Allen's perma-cool and Paul Pierce's cold blooded swagger. He reached his goal of a Championship and came back this year looking for ways to stay focused on getting another one. When a hyper-intense guy looks for ways to fire himself up, yeah, it pretty much comes out as wild eyed psycho lunacy.
Finally, he's been taken off the court by an injury. We all wondered why he couldn't just sit on the bench during the regular season. Now we know why. He really can't control himself. He's so hyper competitive that his only outlet is profanity laced screaming at the opposition. In his mind, he's just being a good teammate, backing up his boys.
Like I said, not everyone is going to like it, but Kevin Garnett is who he is and always has been. I'll take him on my team anytime.
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People hate winners, Jeff.
Garnett’s a winner.
Of course, nobody’s mentioning Ben Gordon’s gestures, Noah’s yapping or any of that stuff.
by CoachBo on Apr 30, 2009 8:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree on all points there, CoachBo.
And I agree that KG acted basically the same way in Minnesota. He really ticked me off with some of those crappy Wolves teams he played on in his last years. He notably went at it with Perkins and Jefferson (those little guards we used to have).
I think it’s perfectly reasonable to hate/dislike guys on opposing teams. They’re trying to take it away from you, this is supposed to be competitive sports. We get to have heroes and villains here, that’s part of the fun.
by Berkcelt on Apr 30, 2009 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree too, CoachBo.
And you know, the controversy aside, one thing that stands out in that shot is that KG’s suit there isn’t half bad. Well-tailored threads.
by grnpeak on Apr 30, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Hate fires KG up!
with that said..no one does talk about how cocky the bulls are..for god sake every time they hit a 3 they do the little circle over the eye with the three fingers up…when rose gets going he claps in eddie house’s or marbury’s face…the C’s have much more class than the bulls
by CeltsGreen9 on Apr 30, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
last year that was a gang sign
this year, it’s "Ben Gordon’s just hit a 3’ sign. funny how time changes things isn’t it?
by IowaGuy on Apr 30, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great Point
I don’t see how anyone can get mad at KG for screaming at someone who prominently grabbed his manhood on national television. At least the “Big Balls” dance (made famous by Sam I Am) was hilarious to watch, and it made it seem like he was having fun. When Igoudala did that at the end of the season, and when Kobe has done it, it’s been funny.
Isn’t what Gordon did just as over the top as KG yelling “motherf___” every other time they show him on the screen? I don’t have a problem with either one. People who are upset with KG need to think about why they didn’t care about gordon’s antics.
by TakesItMakesIt on Apr 30, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it would be funny if...
The Bulls gametime music DJ had AC/DC’s “I’ve got Big Balls” cued up and ready to blare when Gordon hits a big shot. Seeing him strut back down the court clutching his while that song rains down – that would be funny. Otherwise it’s not.
by jyrecelts on Apr 30, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
KG
Kevin Garnett is one of the best things that has happened to the NBA since the post Jordan era began. If more guys were as passionate about their careers in the NBA the league would be that much better. He has become so visible because of the long quest he was on to get a championship, then to do it with the Celtics takes it to a new level. What really bothers me is that all the “KG Haters” out there don’t realize the same trash talking was going on in the 80’s, there was just a much lower level of media coverage back then from the number of tv camera’s at the games to the internet. Imagine today’s technology with the Celtics, Lakers, Sixers and Pistons?
by coachenew33 on Apr 30, 2009 8:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeahman... remember Lame-beer? Rodman? Detroit in the 80's was as foul as anything since
and your right, more coverage, more cameras, better production of ‘higlight reel moments’
by jyrecelts on Apr 30, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
kg is the leader of this team’s defense. rondo of the offense. i really think this affects pp and puts him in spots that make him uncomfortable. he accepts it but seems at sea at times. kg has been lucky over his career with injuries and he will get thru this one in time. boy do they miss his defensive presence. kg has many friends in the league so his wild ways don’t hurt him with the other players. fans could hate him all they want but when it’s over for him, his legacy will shine. he just won’t be able to post on this blog because of the profanity rules.
by nazzbo on Apr 30, 2009 8:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bulls fan perspective
First off, yes, of course a lot of it is bitterness and misguided frustration from Bulls fans. Any honest fan knows that this isn’t something unique to one particular fan base. That is pretty obvious though, so let’s not pretend that a fan base is immune to this kind of mentality because it isn’t realistic.
Honestly, I love KG’s enthusiasm, and the fact that he talks a ton of shit on the court doesn’t bother me one bit. I was really happy that he got his title last year and enjoyed watching Boston beat Kobe for the title. The only thing I don’t like about it right now is that he isn’t on the court, he is injured. In my opinion, he should tone down some of the shit talking toward the other team when he can’t even be out there on the court to back any of it up. It almost seems cowardly…especially when he is jawing at Ben Gordon who played through an injury in the last game (I think he played 51 minutes). Mind you, if Luol Deng was on the bench doing this towards Celts players I wouldn’t condone it one bit (although, it would be funny, because Luol is kind of a big pussy anyway).
That said, I hope KG comes back healthy next year and is back being the KG most of us know and love on the court…the nba just isn’t the same without him. (not to mention, as much fun as this series has been, I was looking forward to a Cavs-Celts rematch, but it just won’t be the same without your leader out there if you do meet)
by BLEIGH82 on Apr 30, 2009 9:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
thanks for your points
my only request is that next time you don’t use curse words – we don’t allow them in here and I don’t have the ability to edit them out of posts and I’d really hate to hide/delete otherwise good posts
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by Jeff Clark on Apr 30, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My apologies...didn't even think about it when I wrote it.
I’ll go get the soap from the bathroom and put it in my mouth for five minutes as punishment…
by BLEIGH82 on Apr 30, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
im a bulls fan too
and i agree with most of what you said. i’ve always liked and respected KG’s game and I don’t mind a lot of his on-court antics, but to be doing this on the bench is inappropriate.
by Calogero on Apr 30, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love that picture.
and I love the Celtics.
and I love KG.
That is all.
by teaguelife on Apr 30, 2009 9:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
cant help but admire the player who cares more about the sport in which he is playing than the money going in his pocket… need more like him..
by celticsfanregardless on Apr 30, 2009 9:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Exactly 180 Degrees from Mark Blount
That can only be good. Amen to this article.
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by Master Po on Apr 30, 2009 9:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well said Master PO
KG definitely is a GREAT improvement over STONE HANDS BLOUNT
by celtpinoy on Apr 30, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great Picture
Maybe opposing players don’t like KG’s presence on the bench but they’d like it a lot less if he were on the court! It can’t be easy sitting this series out, but he must know his physical presence is beneficial for his team and I admire him for playing this role of Ultimate Cheerleader in this hour of ultimate need. It shows humility, not arrogance.
by TruthSerum on Apr 30, 2009 10:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
re: bulls fans
i respect your opinions and posts. kg hates being on the bench not able to play, which is why he wasn’t during the regular season. he got a lot of crap for not being there to support his team and now that he is there supporting his team he’s getting crap for that too. kg can’t win!
by ipgreen on Apr 30, 2009 10:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Best picture of the year
And I hope to see several more of them tonight when the Celts finally get over the hump and win this series.
by vinnie on Apr 30, 2009 10:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's because he's winning
When he was with the Wolves he wasn’t winning, so his intensity was considered him passionately trying to change things. Now? He’s winning and doing the same thing. But because people want winners to be humble and not rubbing it in people’s faces, they disagree with his taunts.
He’s loud – always has been and always will. That’s just how he is. If he stops bringing that fire, I feel his game would suffer. In order to have confidence he needs to believe he’s giving everything. Energy just pours out of the guy whether he’s playing the game or watching it. Personally, I respect someone who shows similar intensity cheering for his team as he does playing with them. He can’t literally help out so he’s doing his best to verbally help his team. Maybe he feels he can be more verbally aggressive because he’s on the bench, I don’t know. But I love it.
by BOSPORTS on Apr 30, 2009 11:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Let People Think What They Want
We have KG and everyone else wishes they had him. We love to hate Noah, but we wish he was ours. As to how others, players, fans, media, the league react to his “stuff” we need look no further than Perk. The year before KG came here he and Perk had some “stuff” going on and Perk probably didn’t care too much for it. Now look at their relationship. I think that says it all if people want to put KG down. And remember when the C’s trained in Italy how KG bought suits for the younger and lower paid players. That’s who KG is and that’s what people should really focus on. That’s the KG I see.
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by TrueGreen on Apr 30, 2009 11:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
thank your lucky "star"
I would be thankful if i was a Bulls fan,that KG is on the sidelines,not in the games.
by house_call on Apr 30, 2009 11:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's perfectly natural
I can’t say I blame people for not liking him. A lot of it has to do with the fact that he plays for Boston. Most of the rest of the country hates Boston teams because 1. Boston teams are good, and they’re jealous. 2. Boston teams are good, but so many Boston sports fans (emphasis on “Boston” before “sports”) all over the country still act like we’re some sort of underdog, and get so angry when someone says “The Celtics are a bunch of ^#$^#ers!” Who care? We’ve won 3 major sports titles this decade, why do you care what the guy from Dallas thinks about your team? On the other hand, are we not allowed to support and defend our team, just because they won? That woudl make us underdog-bandwagon fans, and that’s the same as being a regular bandwagon fan.
KG’s attitude can easily be seen as an extension of this. Now that the Celtics are champs, everyone wants them to go around shaking hands, kissing babies, and not caring about this season, because they won last year, and trying to repeat is just too darn greedy. KG got a ring last year, and guess what? He wants another one! Badly! And there’s no longer anything he can do about it.
Maybe everyone has a point, and maybe it’s just sour grapes. But we’re the reigning champs, so I can live with angry blog posts. No skin off my back.
by CaptFamous on Apr 30, 2009 11:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Internet Hoax, imo
Check out sites like realgm or insidehoops, it`s where all this crap is coming from.
THE place to be if you`re 14. Your opinion is made there.
I remember when this crap started, and I saw who started it.
Threads were made by the biggest lunatic trolls imaginable, and everyone with an agenda jumped on the bandwagon.
14-year-olds, I`m telling you.
by Casperian on Apr 30, 2009 11:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
bottom line
KG will be paid a half a billion $‘s to play basketball when all is said & done…..and when is all said & done he will not have been overpaid…very few athletes you can say that about….he’s the man.
by Motown on Apr 30, 2009 11:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
flopping
as bad habits to get an edge go, talking too much and with too much profanity seems like a fraction as bad as the flopping which pretenders like Ben Gordon, prima donas like Kobe and Lebron, and the entire Spurs team have all used for years.
Anyways (as a player) if you don’t like his trash talk, ignore it. As a fan, why should I care what you think? I’m 100% convinced these people would like him if he was on their team. (When the T-Wolves with Blount and Davis beet the Celts a few years back, I found KG to be annoying and petulant, funny how that changed post trade.)
by Brendan on Apr 30, 2009 11:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In some kind, Kevin Garnett resembles Larry Bird after a won ring.
On-court humility? Not i me.
Kill’em all.
You dare dunk on me?
Take this elbow!
Intimidation, yeah!
In your face..!
It doesn’t really matter if they were the same before they won. They won and they will be judged how they handled it.
That is not a problem for celtics fans.
Btw, has anyone seen the interview-collage of KG on nbatv recently?
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by DOH on Apr 30, 2009 12:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If it were Kirk Hinrich or Derrick Rose or somebody mild-mannered he was yelling at, maybe I could see the backlash. But Ben Gordon is a fake tough guy from Mount Vernon who has been taunting the Celtics all series (crotch-grabbing, ‘bullseye’ hand gesture clownery), so cry me a river if KG — frustrated as hell for having to watch all of this, unable to do anything — yells at poor little Ben.
The people who are mad about this aren’t really mad about this. They’re either bitter Cavs/Lakers fans, or they’re Bulls fans sick over the way they choked away Game 5. Build a bridge and GET OVER IT.
by joebianca on Apr 30, 2009 12:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fake tough guy from Mt. Vernon, eh?
I don’t know. He looked pretty tough when he slammed into the ground after that fall and just popped back up and hit his free throws. I also thought it was pretty gutsy to play on a MRI-verified grade-2 hamstring tear.
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by MPG on Apr 30, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it was a miracle, just ask him. Like Rondo doesn’t pop up off the ground 12 times a game. The point is Gordon’s a clown who’s been showing his ass all series, and I’m supposed to be mad at KG for getting in his face after his team spits the bit?
by joebianca on Apr 30, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, it wasn't a miracle, just gutty.
A miracle would have been involved a wheelchair.
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by MPG on Apr 30, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
arg
“involved” a wheel chair.
Anyway, I don’t really understand the point of this. KG’s annoying to us, Noah’s annoying to you. It’s sports. Questionable calls happen, the games over. Moving on.
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by MPG on Apr 30, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont find Noah annoying
except for all the moving screens he gets away with. Perk’s the worst at that, though, so I really cant complain.
I do chuckle when I see Noah… I remember when he was drafted… this is going to seem remote, but does anyone else remember this? He got tons of funny comparisons to that “ugliest dog”:

http://www.collegehumor.com/picture:1679254
I still crack up when i see Noah. God, he is ugly.
by alskor on Apr 30, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you - I may have nightmares...
by jyrecelts on Apr 30, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah it is hideous
And the dog aint too pretty either!
by alskor on Apr 30, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I got nothin' to refute that.
On the other hand, his dad’s a pop star/tennis champion, he grew up wealthy in frakkin’ Paris, he’s an NBA athlete who makes millions, and he’s also a pretty worldly, intelligent guy.
So don’t feel too bad for him. Looks might not be his strong suit, but he got dealt a pretty sweet hand, no?
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by MPG on Apr 30, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that picture is awesome. Who cares what the rest of the league thinks. Maybe we wouldnt like it if he were on another team, but he’s not on another team. I’m proud to have him represent this city and team because that picture just sums up how I feel about this city and the Celtics.
by coreasaurusrex on Apr 30, 2009 12:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
After 14 seasons
KG is a cinch Hall Of Famer…yet plays with the type of passion you`d expect to see from a rookie trying to make the roster!
Like KG…we all should live every moment in the moment.
by Title 18 on Apr 30, 2009 12:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
don't apologize
it’s a good posting and I agree with all of it, but you shouldn’t feel the need to apologize for the way KG is. obviously fans of opposing teams are going to criticize KG, but I have seen many C’s fans posting on here asking ‘why the need for KG’s antics?’ The argument of such “purists” centers around the idea that “it’s not classy” and “it’s not the way the game should be played”. My question is: when was it ever played the way you’re referring to? I’m no historian but if guys like Bill russell continue to have reputations as trash talkers to this day I’m pretty sure it’s not a new thing.
bottom line is:
haters wanna hate. ballers wanna ball.
by JunkyardDawg on Apr 30, 2009 12:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I apologize for that terrible "Anything is Posssssiibbbleee!"
Awful. KG is scary sometimes… kind of lame. Wish he was playing.
by alskor on Apr 30, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AND...
I, for one, love that he’s doing it from the bench.. yeah he can’t play but he’s doing whatever else he can to help his teammates.
Guys like Bruce bowen, who stick their feet out when they’re guarding a guy whos shooting a 3 so that player will twist an ankle when they land; THAT is unsportsmanlike.
by JunkyardDawg on Apr 30, 2009 12:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
KG is maturing visibly through this, and I expect more as we progress
I think KG is like a boxer, he has always had just one type of attitude in his approach, “hit what’s in front of him”, and now that he’s outside the ring it seems he doesn’t know how to act. But he is a smart guy with great people around him who will continue to help guide him. No one wants the fire to go away, but KG is going to have to learn how to be ‘effective’ in his current predicament, and learn how to be fired up in a way that doesn’t distract or cause problems for the team. I know he can do it, I’m watching him do it as this series moves along. He is still maturing…
by jyrecelts on Apr 30, 2009 1:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You're right in that no one cared when he was playing for the T'Wolves
My problem is that he’s not playing this series. If Garnett was playing, then I don’t care what he does. Crawl around like a dog, cover himself with blood and engage in war chants, whatever gets him hyped. When you’re on the bench, it’s just a lack of professionalism and restraint to constantly be mugging for the cameras, trash talking opponents, etc. I get he is so wound up, and not playing is just killing him inside, but he’s not a rookie. There is something to be said for acting like an adult. Unless Garnett’s behavior in the real world is exactly the same as his behavior on the basketball court, he can ease up on the lunacy.
That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
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by Ozzie Montana on Apr 30, 2009 2:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fromn what I understand he is like that all the time, IRL
in practice, team meetings, etc… he’s kind of a weirdo.
That’s also the basis for the “KG isnt clutch” theory – he only has the one speed and he goes that speed all the time. Admirable in some ways… kind of unsettling.
by alskor on Apr 30, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand why people don't like him
I probably wouldn’t like him too if I was cheering for the opposite team but it seems obvious to me that there is no difference between Minnesota’s KG and Boston’s KG. The only thing that has changed is that he is now a champion so people who liked him as a loser can’t stand the winner now.
by Drucci on Apr 30, 2009 4:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice write up...
My favorite line -
“When a hyper-intense guy looks for ways to fire himself up, yeah, it pretty much comes out as wild eyed psycho lunacy.”
Definitely signature worthy :)
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