Boston An Option For AI?
Marc Stein writes about where Iverson may end up this offseason. One of the options mentioned is Boston, though it sounds like a longshot. (h/t Celtics Hub)
I need to stress that this is purely an educated guess from one of my guys who knows his stuff. But I was sufficiently convinced to share the speculation.
If the Celtics fail to repeat as champs, and if A.I. were willing to take a short-term deal to chase the ring that has eluded him, Iverson to Boston is not nearly as outlandish as it sounds.
Iverson almost certainly would have to accept the bench role he repeatedly has said he'll never accept again, which is a sizable impediment. But that probably would be the biggest impediment here.
Sorry, but I don't buy Iverson taking a backup role here if he wasn't willing to do it in Detroit.
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We are not some sort of dumping ground
for malcontent/misunderstood vets with something to prove. We’re a city trying to win championships. You’ve gotta be willing to fit in under category 2, and not just category 1 to come here.
My opinion on this would be.....
No way do I want him here playing for the Celtics. He would rather be where he has the ball all the time and can take more shots. He won’t sacrifice his game for any team even to win a championship. Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if in his career he never wins one.
wouldn't work with this celtics
4 years ago it would have been great having him here but not these days. completly different understanding of team basketball
No Chance
I would rather keep Marbury. He has been a model citizen thus far. Steph has played unselfish and has fully accepted his role off the bench. Marbury has proven he is willing to put the me-first attitude aside in pursuit of a championship. A.I. has proven the exact opposite. Keep Starbury and let A.I. go start for a bottom feeder.
Hmm...
Didn’t AI’s recent comments pretty much conclusively show that he’s not willing to be a bench player? Let him go to the Clippers, where he belongs.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
I don't want Iverson as a Celtic player...
He is the opposite of a Celtic. Selfish.
Unlikely, but possible
Marbury has said (on Twitter) that he would stay in Boston if the Cs want him. But that doesn’t mean they’ll be able to agree on the money. So he might leave. If he does, we’re short one backup PG next season… unless they wanna go with Gabe, which is unlikely. So they’d be looking for a veteran (read: inexpensive) PG with something to prove. IF… and that’s a big if… AI could bend himself around the thought that he could come off the bench in pursuit of a ring, it could happen.
He’s not a pure PG. On the other hand, I’ve seen him be a very willing passer. Detroit just didn’t work for him in terms of personalities and chemistry. I got the impression that he clashed with weirdo Rip. Never liked Rip, so I feel for AI.
You just can’t trust what you read in news reports about personalities. Remember all the terrible things that were said about Marbury? None of it was true.
With some flexibility on his part, AI could fit in on the Cs. But it’s all still very unlikely.
if Stephon does in fact leave...
we will bring back Will Solomon.
by scurvmeister on Apr 4, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Iverson isn't really a point guard, though...
… and already have enough backup SGs. Iverson may occasionally pass the ball, but his first choice is always to shoot.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
Remember all the terrible things that were said about Marbury? None of it was true.
The past doesn’t hold true when someone acts appropriately for a couple weeks in the present? And, AI isnt exactly the type of back up PG (…considering he’s an off guard) we’d be looking for. Agree with Roy here.
What the heck, one more time...
“UBUNTU”
EVERYTHING I have seen in print about marbury’s career path and increasingly wrong-headed attitude has been negative, and often slanderous, but hey, it’s sports-writing and politicians have it even worse. So when we sign the guy, I’m thinking, ONO, here we go – but I ALWAYS OPT FOR HOPE in my own life, and try to communicate that to others when possible. So I visualized Steph being on best behavior and able to play ball and help. So far so good over the last 7 weeks, he’s coming along, not enough weirdness to worry about, and lots of praise from peers and observers that his attitude is fine and he’s cooperative and enjoying all this.
I wonder how much it matters to a guy like marbury that the team he’s on has a concept like UBUNTU. If it goes over his head or he’s just not into joing in, of course, C-YA!!
But if he embraces it, I like the future scenario with him as a celtic…
…Iverson…? Hmmmnnnnnn…
Don't rule out Iverson coming to Boston based on what he says today
Iverson’s perception of his abilities hasn’t necessarily caught up with the reality that he is not the player he was three years ago. It will take a few months or even a year, but he’ll eventually accept that fact that he’s getting old. One thing that he’s said suggests that money isn’t as important to him as his legacy and a championship. So I think in the long run, if he has to take a bench role to play on quality team like the Celtics, he’ll do it. Remember we were told Pierce, Garnett, Allen would never work? How about that?
by The Village Idiot on Apr 5, 2009 12:05 AM EDT reply actions
missing the point
AI doesn’t want to back up stuckey or rip. i won’t defend him but it ain’t exactly vinnie backing up joe and isiah. he may very well be happy to finish his career this way, which would be a shame. he may very well be happy to finish his career on a real team. i hesitate to endorse the idea but to poo poo it is silly. you think danny’s not open to it? you think paul and kevin aren’t open to it? everyone use your melon for a moment… heart is something he’s always claimed. let’s see if after reflection he puts his money where his mouth is — here or elsewhere.
Old Archives Tell Truth
Once upon a time in here, not too long (for you recent newbies) uhhh…. back when Iverson rumors about coming to Boston were real and strong, many many expert posters in here were squirming and turning with glee in their tight Larry Bird panties that Iverson might come to Boston. It sounded over and over like a bad Dr Suess book rhyme “Oh my what a great fit he would be – surely anyone can clearly see how that would help our green Celtic tree – can’t you think like me”
In fact the rhymes and cries for Iverson sounds extremely familiar to the mind numbing more recent screams for Stephanie Starbury and how he can "take this team to some new heights previously unseen by mortal men!!!! Ahhh… as it turns out Mr Starbury is the one who is quite mortal, and and an average back-up PG at best. He hasn’t quit yet, or thrown a tantrum, so I guess in this regard we have broken new ground that all those other teams Starbury played for couldn’t – of course the season ain’t over yet.
And now….it seems that it is all thumbs down for poor Mr Answer Iverson in Celtic Blogland. The winds of change and opinion shift ever so quickly in here. Wish we could go back to the “Iverson Coming to Boston!!!!” stories and have the gracious Jeff Ranter Clark re-post them for all to read. You know….. just to see whose expertise was apparently quite “askew” on Mr Iverson as was Joe Dumars.
I remember crying NO NO NO to Iverson coming here but appeared to be one of a few local Celtic blog village idiots too dumb to come in out of the Negative rain pouring over my head. Now I can’t see any hands being raised for The Answer and my IQ seems two points higher (there is room for growth in my IQ and humbleness before someone else points it out for me).
Well I hope we get Iverson and keep Marbury for next season. Then all we need is three more old bad seeds (K-Mart might be available) to start a new Senior League team call the Boston Thugeltics – " Where Winning isn’t a Tradition but whining, bitching and quitting on your teammates are!"
Is it Soup Yet?
Yaaaa...but...
When the AI rumors were swirling, Boston had a vacancy at both the 1 and the 2….Iverson was being looked at as a starter…..
Personally, I think Marbury will be back to his old self with a full off-season and TC to work on his game and i’d rather have him back next year with a chance to grab some major minutes backing up the 1/2 like they’ve been working toward.
AI would mean the end of House, as he’d need all of Eddie’s minutes as well as Rondo’s backup minutes…Marbury still gives Eddie 15 minutes at the 2 and slots in with Ray playing the 3 because his pure playmaking allows for the small lineup.
Iverson isn’t the PG or the shooter necissary to slot in with House/Allen or next to Rondo – Marbury is showing he can move the ball around quickly and make smart decisions – all AI has ever done is dribble and probe for his looks.
Maybe the difference between Detroit and Boston in terms of team potential will matter, but if he couldn’t even play ball for one year before hitting free agency I don’t like the odds of him doing it for 2-3 more seasons on any team.
AI is all about winning, but he’s all about winning on his terms…he needs to be one of the cogs and won’t stop fighting to do it “his way” until he’s through – that’s my read on Iverson. His stubborn will to overcome is his greatest strength and weakness.
by BillfromBoston on Apr 5, 2009 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions
AI
I think it’s unlikely, but I wouldn’t entirely rule it out. As Stein says in his article, it would have to be contingent on the C’s not winning it all this year. While I don’t particularly love AI, I don’t see how you couldn’t possibly see Ainge rolling the dice on him if other free agents like Rasheed Wallace go elsewhere.
Again, I don’t particularly love the idea of AI; however, if the Cavs take out the C’s next year, they’re going to have to do something to upgrade for next year. While AI would be a gamble, if he panned out, he could be what gets us over the top.
Hopefully, though, we win #18 this year and we don’t have to go through that drama.
NO!
As a PG, I’d take Steph over AI in this situation.
Don’t need him, plus he’d gobble up minutes from our man Eddie House, who has been assassinating people with his 3-balls and energy.
I’d rather see what TA brings to the table in terms of slashing and attacking over AI, plus he plays D. AI is clearly not a point guard, never has been, never will be and is not a system guy.
Too late
This post showed up three days too late. April 1 is over, baby. We ain’t no fool to take this post seriously. Nice try.
wtf
Am I alone in thinking what AI said wasn’t that bad? if I remember correctly, all he said is that he doesn’t see himself as able to play the way Detroit wants him to play. yeah, he has to control the ball for a good portion of a games minutes to be effective, but he’s played that way and been asked to do it for his entire career. Detroit knew what they were trading for when they got him.
it was a long time ago, but Marbury used to be the same type of player, although not as good as AI. it took him years to change his game from a 40% shooting 25 point/8 assist guy to the 12/5 he basically got when he was playing with the Knicks. maybe Iverson sleeps on it for a while and decides thats the route he wants to take. maybe not…
Iverson is like antoine in that he is a “volume” player; he needs a lot of minutes and a lot of touches to be an effective player. he has never shot a high FG % but has relied more on getting any many shots as he wanted since he was the man. At this stage of his career he is still quick enough to get to the hole but deensively he’s not the player he once was and he is always going to get overpowered by bigger guards. I just don’t see how he fits in or why we would want him
Slow News Day
1. Iverson has always played his heart out and he would fit the KG-Celtics mojo. If Marbury can – and he is showing that – then AI can.
2. He’s lost a lot of his game, at least that’s what the box scores tell me.
3. I don’t think he’d bring that much more than Eddie does now and I definitely like a Marbury-Eddie combo over a Marbury-AI or AI-Eddie combo
Great talent (once), comes to play (and would for us), a head case (esp as talent slips?)>>>>>No thanks, AI but Good Luck
I'd be up for it...
…but they don’t ask us (though perhaps they sample the fanbase).
Allen is [was] a stunning talent.
And he could help hang banner 18 if it’s not taken care of this year.
Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk
Before what just transpired in Detroit, I really thought Iverson would do well in the backup role. I know a lot of people think Iverson is selfish, but I never felt that way so I was really surprised that he would rather retire than be a backup. He could really flourish off the bench with a team like the Celtics. That being said, I’d like to bring back Marbury. I like the Marbury/House tandem better than Iverson (who would probably take all of House’s minutes too).
The thugster will end up with a poorly run, perenially losing franchise. Name your franchise. The only franchise with an incompetent GM which won’t be in the running is Charlotte. Brown has already dealt with the thugster and won’t do it again.
No team who cares about winning will touch the thugster with a 10 foot pole.
Boston An Option For AI?
They would be crazy!! Iverson is a serious cancer!!
Let’s see if Marbury helps in the playoffs first.
Why did Ainge pick J.R. Giddens over Mario Chalmers??? Did he blow it or what?
First Marbury, and Now Iverson?
No thanks. If that happens I may have to take up golf.
Eddie House is a better player. Seriously.
Iverson’s strength is scoring while shooting a low percentage and without 3 point range. House’s strength is scoring while shooting a good percentage. It’s obvious to me.
it's a longshot...
to say the least but i never expected us to go after a fruitcake like stephon marbury either. and i always thought ai was a much better player than steph. steph from an attitude standpoint has handled himself well if the results have been somewhat lackluster. steph seems to be playing well next to my man eddie so i’ll give him that. i wouldn’t rule ai out ever and he’s definitely worth the inquiry imo but again right now he’s not of the mindset to handle a bench role. now would that change with more time to think, maybe a call or 2 from the big 3? it worked with steph. but ai would need to get at least 30 min a game to feel right and that would probably be the end of eddie house’s minutes and to me that’s not a good thing.
by bucknersrevenge on Apr 5, 2009 11:32 AM EDT reply actions
AI?
Don’t see it. If Ainge is going to spend the money it would take to get Iverson, he’ll spend it on a big instead. I see another back up point next year who isn’t currently on the roster. Maybe a vet (Dooling, Vaughn type, etc.) or maybe another drafted point. I wonder how much Ainge likes Lawson from NC?
"Hey dude, did ya hear? Allen Iverson might come to the Celtics - is that awesome or What!?"
“…..mmmmnn…nahhhhhhhhhhhh……………….”






























