CelticsBlog: An SB Nation Community

Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Sports blogs for fans, by fans.
New Blog: RSL Soapbox for Real Salt Lake Fans!

Best. Series. Ever.

Win or lose, this has been absolutely classic.

More photos » by Brian Babineau - NBAE/Getty Images

Win or lose, this has been absolutely classic.

Up until this point I've been hesitant to call this an "instant classic." That just seems to be one of those terms that is overused.  Besides, I'm not old enough to speak authoritatively on history. 

However, after last night's epic, I can't imagine there being another series that rivaled this one.  Yes, it is just the first round, so the stakes are somewhat lower, but it is still win or go home.

Whatever you are looking for in a playoff series is here.  Buzzer beaters, gutsy performances through pain, young players stepping up, cagey veterans never letting up, "playoff fouls," good (and bad) coaching, the list goes on.  ...and on, and on...

This series has included 7 overtime periods.  Seven.  This is history happening right here. 

Someday in the future you'll be having a conversation with someone about some future playoff series and how close it is or how many overtimes it includes.  You will laugh and say, "that's nothing, I remember when..." and you'll describe this series.

The only question at this point is how you'll remember it.  Will it be a hard fought yet satisfying win or a hard fought regrettable loss?

Jumping in the time machine again, imagine if you could go back in time and alter the events of history.  Think about what you could do with minimal effort.  As a Celtics fan, you could move the ball one inch on 2 plays and this series is a sweep.  A Bulls fan could do the same and they win in 5 games.  And the thing is, either fan would have an endless supply of plays to pick from that could have decided the games one way or another.

That's why I'm not going to get too hung up on one play or another that "cost us the game."  The Celtics had numerous opportunities to put the Bulls away all game (and all series) long.  You could say the same for the Bulls.

Earlier this series I saw some Bulls fans talk about how evenly these teams are matched up because of the Garnett injury.  I wrote that off as a little bit of optimistic homerism.  I was sure that the Celtics were the better team and they would prove it on the court.  I was wrong.  The Celtics may indeed be a better team, but right now, with the current lineup, in this series, at this moment in time, these teams are as evenly matched as you'll ever see.

Neither team is backing down an inch.  Both teams have done enough to make thier fans proud.  Still, only one can walk away winners from the best first round series ever (and perhaps the best series ever).  That is if this series ever ends.

More words on the endless series: Ball Don't Lie (and again) | Daily Dime | TrueHoop | SI | Celtics Hub

1 recs  |  Comment 56 comments |

Story-email Email Printer Print

Comments

Display:

I will never look back at this matchup and talk about how great it was. I love watching teams play defense and this series is just not how basketball should be played, IMO.

Sure the games are close and some huge shots were made but to me a no defense series just can`t be called great….

by thebirdman on May 1, 2009 7:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

really?

Really?

The game was won with a steal and blocked shot.

I think you’re confusing bad offense with defense.

by bob3698 on May 1, 2009 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here, here...

If the greatest series ever is defined by a championship winning team being injured and completely breaking down fundementally on the defensive side of the ball – ya, its a great series.

But for my part, all I see is a heart-filled Bulls team beating up on an embarrasingly scuttled Celtics squad who has relied entirely on offense to try and push through this series.

Boston has failed to execute the most fundemental and basic plays when they’ve needed them most – last nights game could have and should have been won in regulation and in OT, but Boston has no energy or interest in playing defense and has now forgotten how.

All I see is a noble and sad attempt by a battle-weary starting 5 to win a first round series against what would be an inferior opponent health-permitting….if makes me sick to my stomach, not excited…..

What a tremendous waste of time this entire NBA season has been – get all the way to the playoffs and then get nut-punched with a KG injury and slapped while down by this rediculously executed series…

by BillfromBoston on May 1, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bill from Beantown is correct.

Couldn’t agree more. Dead on. Makes me sick too. This isn’t a great series. It’s pure torture.

If the Cowboys could only play like a team with passion and unity like my beloved
Boston Celtics, I would be happy.

by Captain Comeback on May 1, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

eye of the beholder I guess

I’m a little more forgiving of a team that is undermanned, limping, and dead-on-their-feet tired playing against another team who is undermanned, limping, and dead-on-their-feet tired

the movie Rocky wasn’t a bad movie just because he never lifted his hands up to defend his face

"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V

by Jeff Clark on May 1, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wrong

By that logic a great series was the cavs/detroit series. One good team beating another.

The teams dont have to be great for it to be a great series.

yes the celtics are injured, theyre not as good as last year – but to say these games werent good is ridiculous. These are good games, I dont care if it was the worst two teams in the league, the games were amazing to watch.

Just because the celtics arent winning the way we want them too -doesn’t disqualify the fact that this will go down as one of the best series of all time – you can’t argue with the number of OTs, lead changes, buzzer beaters, etc.

by bob3698 on May 1, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agree

agree with comments of birdman, Bill from Boston, LarBrd33

I could see how a casual fan, a new fan or a Bulls fan might find the series entertaining; there have been a lot of great plays and close games with wild finishes; both teams have shown a lot of heart; credit to all the players

but as a Celtics fan, who has seen what this team is capable of … these games have been sickening for me; as a team, the C’s are a shell of their former selves and it is sad, frustrating and embarrassing to watch

as a small example, the C’s played good defense from the 10:30 mark of the 4th Q to the 3:30 mark of the 4th Q; not great D; not anywhere near their best; nothing like with a full rotation, complete confidence and effort; but OK D — what’s shocking first is how rare this has been in this series, and this is the C’s trademark, the basis for everything they do, the source of their offense as well; they’ve probably played decent D for about 20 minutes in the entire series; the other shocking thing to note is how easily during this stretch last night they turned a 12 point deficit into an 8 point lead with a 23-3 run; this is typical Celtics basketball; for most of the past 2 years they’ve done this night in and night out for most of the game; so you can only imagine what these games would be like with a Celtics team firing on all cylinders (as they did on many occasions during the past season); these games would not even be close; the Celtics would be putting on a clinic on both ends of the floor, and gearing up for a serious battle with the Cavs and Lakers

so you can imagine how frustrating it is to see a team that is playing so far below its capabilities; when you know what great defensive and offensive execution looks like, and what these players are capable of as a team, and when they fail to do that on almost every play of the game … it makes it very difficult to watch

now, whether it is impossible to play C’s basketball with 5-1/2 guys or whether the problem is more mental and psychological, I don’t know — but since they showed flashes of decent basketball for 7 minutes in game 6 and most of game 3, it does seem possible; so I’m left to wonder why they can’t make the effort for even a few minutes more of each game

even so, the C’s should have won games 4 and 6 rather easily down the stretch; but they just seemed to stop playing … as if they were afraid of succeeding and moving to the next round; it was almost as if they felt more comfortable playing down to the Bulls score rather than playing through to the finish … as if they couldn’t envision succeeding without KG, or beating CLE and LA … and this palpable fear of daring to believe they could win another championship with the current team is also frustrating and sickening

sure, they are shorthanded and fatigued, with no help from the bench; that’s part of the problem; but I think a big part of the problem also is mental; you get some idea about this from Doc’s comments; during one of the practices earlier he was asked point blank if he was worried that the team would shut down mentally and look for excuses to lose because KG was out and they might feel in their hearts they couldn’t win a championship without him … and he admitted that yes that was an early concern and he wanted to try to get control of and stop that thinking if at all possible … and that was the context for his comments about “you’re not a victim unless you see yourself as a victim and act like a victim, etc.”

I believe the team is trying its hardest … they are doing their best … it’s not a conscious thing … but at some level they have to be thinking about the blows they’ve taken and why that makes their job harder rather than focusing with complete confidence and swagger on winning another championship

I think that psychological battle that they are waging with themselves is the real untold story of this series; that is their biggest barrier to moving on … not the Bulls

(agree that the Philly and LA series in the 80’s were way beyond this series; the Henderson steal to win game 2 of the ‘84 Finals; the McHale clotheline of Rambus; the Worthy dunks, Andrew Toney aka the Boston Strangler, the Magic Junior Hook, the DJ 15 foot bankshot from the leftwing while being pulled down from behind, the interior passing with Walton Bird McHale and Parish (there isn’t one Big playing in this series that is even a quarter of the player of any one of those 4 Celtics, not to mention Dr. J, and Kareem), the 1st game of the ’85 Finals where Wedman went something like 15 for 15)

so, the C’s need to get focused on winning; I believe they will do that; Rondo was playing under a guilt cloud in Game 6; that is now gone; he will be back in attack mode; Pierce will regain his swagger and focus; the C’s need to understand that they are playing for something; it will be incredibly impressive and satisfying if they can get to the ECF and give the Cavs all they can handle; to me, that will be more impressive than anything the Cavs or Lakers do this year; if they show enough fight and enough heart they can be the best team in the playoffs and still the Champs whether they win the Finals this year or not

I don’t say that John or Johnny will realize this. There is more day to dawn. The sun is but a morning star.

by KJR on May 2, 2009 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't agree with that thought Birdman

I honestly think the perfect defining moment of this series is Hinrich getting the open layup and not getting it to fall (goaltending or not, outside of the point) This series has so much imperfection, it leads to perfect moments, to perfect drama. Sports is entertainment to some extent, namely to people watching. This series is as entertaining as any series I’ve ever seen. While the basketball in and of itself isn’t perfect, watching the story of the series unfold is as close to perfection as I’ve ever seen in any sporting event.

by Novacain on May 1, 2009 8:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I have to agree (hesitantly)

While I would have loved to see the Celtics win this game last night, I can’t help but admit that it’s been a very entertaining and satisfying series from a basketball fan’s perspective.

I’ve been somewhat disappointed with Pierce’s performance in this series, but last night was not one of them. What I had wanted to see from him was a little passion and commitment, and I think I saw that last night even when his shots were not falling. This was in contrast with previous games where he passed up shots and his defense on critical possssions was not all that great.

I wasn’t mad at him fouling out because it occured on a hustle play, with him wanting to prevent an easy basket. One can argue that he should have just let Noah score. But I" would say he did the right thing contesting that shot. Imagine if it had worked out. It would have been a pivotal moment. It didn’t work out, I can live with that. I always respect genuine effort of people who take chances that hold huge potential payoffs (or huge potential downsides when things don’t work out) What I can’t live with would be Pierce just giving up and letting Noah go unchallenged.

I’ll remember this series as a really emotional roller coaster of interesting basketball. However, I’ll stop short of calling it a classic. This is not Bird and Magic battling it out at the highest levels. It’s more like an up and coming Bulls team playing a step up their grade level, while a depleted and injury ridden Celtics team are holding on for dear life.

This series would have been a no contest if the Celtics could get more than one superstar hot at the same time. Right now, it’s one or the other, and that’s not enough to dominate anyone.

I am resigned to the very real possibility that the Celtics may not get to the conference finals, let alone the NBA finals. But the positive side is watching Rondo and Glenn Davis mature right in front of our eyes. It bodes well for the Celtics future.

by The Village Idiot on May 1, 2009 8:10 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You gotta have Heart

Both cities can be proud of how hard their teams have played, if nothing else.

TVI, your quote also sums things up for me.

I’ll stop short of calling it a classic. This is not Bird and Magic battling it out at the highest levels. It’s more like an up and coming Bulls team playing a step up their grade level, while a depleted and injury ridden Celtics team are holding on for dear life.


No one should walk away from this series with their head hanging down.

The heart has its reasons of which reason knows nothing.
Blaise Pascal, Bulls Fan

by Envy on May 1, 2009 8:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No Offense to anyone

I’m glad you can all get excited about this series. I really am. I know Bob Ryan gets paid to be a fan, and this blog is probably making money too. But even so, I think y’all are genuinely excited. Let me just say, I’m not. I always root for the Celtics. So don’t get me wrong there. But to watch a team that won 66 games last year, 62 games this year, and set nba records for best start, and celtics records for longest winning streak, I am simply not moved by this team playing even with an average competitor. Sure, the Celtics don’t have Garnett, Powe, etc. But for me the bottom line is that the Celtics simply aren’t playing high quality basketball. I get excited about high quality celtics basketball. Salmons shoots threes whenever he takes a notion, while anyone and everyone on the Bulls gets into the lane for an easy deuce unless KP is there to get in the way every once in a while. PJ brown will block more shots at age 86 than mikki moore will block over his entire celtics career. In other words, the defense is pathetic. The front line is thin at best, and the bench scored 11 points in seven quarters last night. 11! So far from being excited, I am being reminded of the worst two years of my celtic fanhood—1987 and 1988. Watching a once great team fall apart due to injuries and then struggle to get out of the first round. I understand the whole purple heart concept. Fine. Give them purple hearts. Bow down in reverence. But I’m not gonna get excited about this series, even if we win.

by Black Jack Pershing on May 1, 2009 8:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't know

I don’t think close games make a series “best ever” or “instant classic”; it’s more the quality of play and the “styles make fights” factor. I don’t think the gameplay has been especially good or intelligent this series, and the teams are too similar for me to find the clash interesting from any standpoint other than as a C’s fan. (The whole young vs. old storyline is a complete media fabrication, when you consider that the story for the C’s has been young Rondo and Perk, while vets like Miller and Heinrich have played major roles for the Bulls.)

Bottom line, even if the C’s win — even if the C’s win and somehow go on to win a championship — I can’t imagine ever wanting to watch these games again.

by MattD on May 1, 2009 8:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't think so

This series was 2 Paul Pierce free throws away from a sweep. To me it was a series of missed opportunity and spotty play by a team that should know better than to let a you team think they have a chance. How soon we forgot the Atlanta Hawks…

by EJPLAYA on May 1, 2009 8:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Also A Game Of Inches And Milimeters

"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
"Criminally Negligent Officiating"--Tommy Heinsohn

by TrueGreen on May 1, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the problem with this theory...

Is that it goes both ways. The Bulls could have won this in game 5 too. That’s the fun of the series.

by Novacain on May 1, 2009 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This series is the greatest that I've ever seen

I just hope that I’ll be able to re watch it with joy in the fure because the Celtics will have prevailed. Please win the game 7 Celtics!

by Drucci on May 1, 2009 8:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

coincidence, or plagiarism! ;)

i updated my facebook status as "Best. Series. Ever. " right before i went to bed last night.

great minds think alike!!!

by driz on May 1, 2009 9:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hate losing in OT

Jeff,
yes it’s a classic series and it will still be a Classic Series even if we lose it but I have to say that I am disappointed in our inability to beat these guys in OT. Going back to that regular season game in Chicago we have played 5 OT games against these guys and lost 4 of them. Sadly, if you had to pick one guy on our team who has hurt us the most in those 4 losses it would be Pierce. BBall is a team game so you win as a team and lose as a team but the longer this series goes the more fatigued Pierce has become. Let’s make no mistake- without Paul Pierce we’re not winning anything- either this series or the next should we be fortunate enough to get there. The rest of the starting 5 have performed admirably. For us to win in game 7 we need a productive Pierce, good defense and some bench play. I really believe we will win the game and hopefully it doesn’t go to OT because I just can’t take any more of those- especially since we lose most of them!

by Red2 on May 1, 2009 9:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i rate when the c’s beat philly in 81, as better. this one is exhausting and both teams deserve to win. unfortunately, one team walks away a loser. if it’s chi. they have a lot of hope for next year. if it’s us, we will be in the pits.

by nazzbo on May 1, 2009 9:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

noah dunk top play on SC

i hope this should be a bitter pill for paul. NO MORE TOs TOMORROW, DEAR CAPTAIN.

by celtsucka on May 1, 2009 9:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great Post on an Epic Series

Don’t Put Too Much Hate on Having a Game 7.

This series really need to go to a final Game 7 considering that 48 minutes of regulation time is just a warm-up. The real line-up and game goes in every extended 5 minutes.

I am hoping for a win though. I want more EPIC series in this 08-09 Playoffs.

by mjohnson on May 1, 2009 9:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I hate Pierce

I really do, he killed us all night. Torched by Salmons on one end, not sharing and turning it over on the other.

He was MADDENING last night.

by rickyfan3.0... on May 1, 2009 9:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What can you say about this series that hasn't already been said about WWII?

It’s ugly, long, heart-pounding, heart-stopping, frustrating, exciting…

I’m emotionally drained. The fact that Noah had the biggest play of the game kills me. Lord, could it have been anyone else? Please? If that’s not motivation to want to destroy the Bulls Sat. then I don’t know what is. Also the fact that their crowd rattled Rondo a bit, initially pulling him mentally out of his game. He’s now considered by many to be the dirtiest player in the league. Overreacting much? They’re playoff fouls, everyone.

How does Hinrich get less of a penalty that Rondo? Hinrich was the aggressor. Even after a hard foul you can’t attack someone.

I’m also disappointed about this loss because Ray Allen’s performance isn’t as special. But wow, what an amazing performance. Seeing a Hall-of-Famer playing one of the best games of his career is a true gem.

Did you honestly think this series wouldn’t go to 7 games? It was inevitable. For the sake of me not cringing every time I see one of these games in the future, the Celtics need to win game 7. I’ve aged 10 years during this series and something positive needs to come from it.

Salmons? Huh? Really? Disappointing to see a player like that be able to do what he did.

by BOSPORTS on May 1, 2009 9:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hinrich

Because he was boxing out a great rebounding guard and Rondo didn’t like it so he threw him face first into the scorer’s table? I ‘d run up and shove the guy as well..Hard foul is one thing, grabbing someone’s arm and throwing him into the scorer’s table is another..

by tfrabotta on May 1, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, I’m sure no one would like to be thrown into a table, but it still warrants penalty if you respond with an attack, which is what Hinrich did. And didn’t some players/coaches get off the bench after that? That’s a penalty as well.

by BOSPORTS on May 1, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why does Pierce get stripped so much?

He always seems to lose the ball especially when they double. He almost looks lacadasical (sp). The foul on Noah was just as stupid as Tony Allen in general. This team will not beat Cleveland nor LA. Garnett’s presence in this series was truly evident last night. It’s been a rough season that started off with so much promise. I’m hoping next year turns out better.

If the Cowboys could only play like a team with passion and unity like my beloved
Boston Celtics, I would be happy.

by Captain Comeback on May 1, 2009 9:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Being on the west coast I haven't seen many games this year, but I've been watching the playoffs

and Pierce looks exhausted. Could be, maybe he was carrying much of the slack when Garnett was out in the regular season. Then to have to play so many OT’s. I don’t know, just a guess.

by eastie Rich on May 1, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Danny Ainge says....
Don’t expect the Celtics to have a Willis Reed moment in Game 7 tomorrow night.

Kevin Garnett will not only not be available tomorrow but is done for the season, according to Celtics president Danny Ainge. Ainge said in a text message early this morning that the injured All-Star will not be returning for the rest of the playoffs.

“I’m not planning on him the rest of the season,” said Ainge.

LINK

by Larry Joe Bird on May 1, 2009 9:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good god...

This series is insane! 3OT’s in the playoffs?!

Here’s hoping the C’s come out strong and finish the Bulls off early.

by LuckyNumber07 on May 1, 2009 9:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm calling it now..

5 OT’s tomorrow night, winner will be the team who has 5 guys left at the end

by hpantazo on May 1, 2009 9:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree about the 81 series

It was far far better than this since both teams were healthy, supremely talented and playing at the top their games. IIRC 5 of the 7 games were decided by 2-3 points or less and the last game had a classic nailbiting finish. The Havlicek stole the ball series, the 74 finals and the 84 finals were also far better than this (to name only series the C’s were involved in). Level of play is imprtnat.

by BouncingBuckeye on May 1, 2009 10:10 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Celtics have been in so many great series I couldn't remember them all. Then, when

I was thinking I’d have to look them up to post, you came along and did most of it for me. This series is epic only in that both teams haven’t been able to win at the end of regulation or OT. I totally agree, level of play should be the most important factor when determining whether or not a series is “great.,” and the level of play hasn’t been consistent by any means.

  Just because you go to a baseball game and it last 18 innings doesn’t make it a classic.

by eastie Rich on May 1, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm tired...

We shouldn’t win a game where 1 player scores 51 points. This is not a good thing! Ray was fierce, but it was a situation where he was the only reliable shooter. C’s should be utilizing more of their resources. C’s should never have one guy shooting so much. Ray’s % was only slightly over average.

Also, you should never trust Pierce if he isn’t superman.

And, TA should go.

And, the difference in this series is not the bench! Our “bench” is scoring! It is just that they are starting…

And, you can’t blame Rondo.

by AMP200 on May 1, 2009 10:10 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

In this game, Ray should have been shooting much MORE. One of the greatest shooters ever having a career night. Cs should have ridden him for 60 or 70 and would have won the game. Doc and Pierce are to blame. Ray should have been the first option on every play in the second half and all three OTs. I love pierce and want to punch every poster who disses him, but as it is with my sister, I grant myself the right to criticize him, and his insistence on trying to be the hero when a hall of famer on his team is having a career night is what cost us last night’s game.

by Bench Warmer on May 1, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Entertaining series vs. Classic series

For sure, this is an “entertaining series”….Game 6 alone clinched that!

But, the low level of play and coaching, along with it being a first-rounder involving a crippled #2 seed…..forbids it from truly being a “classic or epic” series.

As Celtic fans, we can feel proud of them being warriors….while also being heart-broken and frustrated that once again injuries dealt us a crappy hand.

by Title 18 on May 1, 2009 10:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My sentiments exactly

To slightly better than average teams playing entertaining but seriously flawed basketball. Not a classic at all.

by vinnie on May 1, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Until reading this post

I had become a little ambivalent about whether we win this series, mainly because of my concern that the team will have killed itself to win this series. And the Bulls have earned my respect, I certainly don’t hate (all) of them. But now I understand that I looked at this all wrong.

A win means ALL the difference.

  • A win and this series goes down as one more testament to Celtic Pride, of long minutes played, and fouls given and received in a drama where the Celtics ultimately refused to yield.
  • A win will be a punctuation mark on the series where the NBA learned to truly fear Rajon Rondo and Kendrick Perkins.
  • A win and we will tell stories of Glenn Davis stepping into big shoes and succeeding.
    A win will add to the mystique of cold-blooded Ray Allen, and our own Superman

While for most fans this series is a statistical anomaly (“Gee wow, how many overtimes?”), for us it is a struggle to perpetuate our Celtic mythology. Game 7 will make this series legendary or it will not. And who knows, perhaps there might be another hero on the Celtics who will step up Saturday night?

by Thruthelookingglass on May 1, 2009 10:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not classic at all: Live by the truth, die by the truth

Classic is when two great teams clash AND you have games like we’ve seen. Chicago is not great, far from it… they’ve been playing out of their minds, making one miracle shot after another (amazing, really, how that keeps happening). The Cs, sadly, are also far from great at this point. No one has been more disappointing than Paul Pierce. And Doc.

Yesterday I blamed Doc for taking that last timeout, thus assuring the loss. But if memory serves, it was Paul who actually called it. Either way, both men have performed abysmally. Paul, for reasons unknown, has had too many mental and physical lapses, usually at the very worst possible times. You can lay all three losses at his feet. Doc simply lacks imagination, always has.

I suppose the team that deserves to win will win. I can no longer say that we “deserve” to win. The Bulls are the ones who stepped up their game, big time. We stepped down.

But it matters very little. Whichever team wins will not get out of the East. The Bulls because they’re not good enough (yet). The Celtics because Paul has stepped down too far. And because Doc is only a great players’ coach, with glaring deficiencies in the rest of his game. In any event, the world will little note, nor long remember, what we say here. And it will surely forget what they did here.

by DRJ1 on May 1, 2009 11:09 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well said drj1

i also see your side jeff..

a great series for me is the celtics sweeping any and everybody in blow out winz!!
paul-ray-rondo
those 3 SHOULD be enough to do just that…
but……

by CELTICZ4LIFE on May 1, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not a coaching classic

This sereies has seen some real head scratching moves made by both coaches. Had vinnie or doc had their head on straight this series would have been over. I usualy defend doc but he has not done a championship coaching level job this series.

by angryguy77 on May 1, 2009 11:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Miller's flailing arms at 1:14 left in 4th

What was up with those? Much more dangerous/flagrant than Rondo + Hinrich

by billyb3 on May 1, 2009 11:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Brad Miller

While Brad Miller played very well last night, I can not stand watching him play. He complains about everything, and acts like an idiot after every play he makes. I hope we Perk shuts him down in Game 7.

by twelve_twenty on May 1, 2009 12:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

a great series

between to mediocre teams
that’s what C’s have become.

by tommyfan on May 1, 2009 12:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I would think any number of series between Boston and Philly, or Knicks, or Atlanta would

qualify as better series. Really, I can’t remember them all, but contrasting this Chicago team with the likes of Bernard King, Dominique Wilkins or Dr. J isn’t really fair (for them). There’s been many better series by far.

by eastie Rich on May 1, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m sure to casual fans and Bulls fans, this will be remembered as one of the greatest series ever. But frankly, I have absolutely hated watching every single game. Unbelievably frustrating to watch. Depressing. Like a wounded dog fighting for its life. The Celtics are undermanned, injured, slow, broken… playing horrible defense without their core, best player and emotional leader… against a cocky, uppity, athletic, hungry young Bulls team with nothing to lose. It’s been disgusting to watch and I’ve despised every second of it. The celtics look vulnerable… they look weak… they look like a team without a prayor of winning anything this year. We are giving minutes to scrubs like Big Baby, Scal, Mikki Moore and Tony Allen and it’s sad.

To casual viewers I’m sure they are loving it. To Bulls fans I’m sure they are loving selling themselves on the idea that they are “upsetting” the champion. But to me, personally… I’m ready for it to end. I’m not saying we should take the sickly dog out back and shoot it in the head… but I’m saying I don’t really want to watch it limp around in the back yard and ward off a wolf.

by LarBrd33 on May 1, 2009 1:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I am really turning off to Celticblog. I am by no means a cheerleader.

There was a point when that greasy, slimy, megalomaniacal college coach took control of this team that I almost resigned my citizenship in Celtics Nation altogether. But this isn’t the same thing at all. What’s happening now is such a classic case of spoiled fans dwelling on the negative, inflating every missed shot and bad decision, and just generally acting like sports-radio boneheads.

Rondo is playing on a clearly popped tire, and posters grill him for not attacking the rim aggressively enough rather than commending him for putting in 50-odd minutes and continually finding Ray and Baby in their sweet spots.

Doc has to coach a 3 OT game with a total of 5 reliable players, at least 2 of whom are playing hurt, and people say he was out-coached rather than commending him for keeping his team alive despite a bench that has completely disappeared on him since Baby moved to the starting lineup and Powe went down. Sure,Tony Allen shouldn’t have been in there when he was, but Doc HAS to play the bench some time. Isn’t it sort of up to them not to miss open Js (House) or make stupid plays (TA)? What else can he do — play only the starters and Scal in a series that already had 4 or 5 overtimes? I mean, we all know Mikki sucks. Marbury shows no signs of doing anything of value. House looks scared s-less every time he releases. And Tony is clearly the scarecrow on this team. If he only had a brain. Is all that Doc’s fault? I still think House could bounce back if he could find his confidence, so I don’t want to totally blast him as much, but those other guys are pretty terrible options for a coach to be looking at down his bench. A coach, even a good one — and Doc Rivers IS A GOOD COACH — needs players. Blame the salary structure and huge contracts of the big 3 for limiting the Celtics options this year, and blame the cosmos for taking KG and Powe from the rotation, but it’s not on Doc.

I won’t defend Pierce quite as passionately based on last night, but he DID play great defense. In fact, he almost had a game-changing steal late in one of the OTs that, if it worked, the same people calling for his retirement would be praising the captain for saving the team.

by Cousin It on May 1, 2009 1:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think we have more in common than not.

The Bulls are not an elite team. The Celtics are depleted. There have been bonehead plays on both sides. Despite this I believe we are watching a series for the ages.

My Bulls are up by twelve. I’m elated. The lead evaporates in two minutes. I’m devastated. The Bulls are down by 8 with 3 minutes to go – shoot me. We win – I cannot sleep (I couldn’t sleep if we lost). On an on. The reason I’m writing a post here is that we will forever be linked by this series. I desperately want us to win tomorrow. You desperately want the Cs to win. If you look at BlogaBull you find fury at coaching decisions, talk of heart attacks from watching this series, hatred toward the enemy, admiration for the enemy. I think we have more in common than not.

by chgobr on May 1, 2009 10:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

greatest series ever?

I remember two other series that I would consider before this one, 1986 and 1988, both involving the C’s. 1986 against the Bulls, Jordan’s second year in the league. 1988 against the Hawks in the dramatic game 7 showdown Bird vs Nique. I can also remember some other great series, 1981, down 3-1 against Philly and coming back.

It’s so hard to say “greatest ever” because ever is a very long time.

by boscel33 on May 3, 2009 10:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

CelticsBlog is a growing interactive community dedicated to providing fresh, comprehensive coverage of the Boston Celtics.
Start posting about the Celtics »

Join SB Nation and dive into communities focused on all your favorite teams.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recent FanPosts

Small
Aging
Small
coaches are pathetic
Small
Doc, Start Doing Your Job!
Images_small
STOP HATING ON CELTICS
Shelden_small
WARNING! Spoiler alert!
Small
Brilliant Marketing
Small
The Lakers got the worst of the Artest-Ariza exchange
Small
atlanta is good
Ruby_7-08_hb_2yrs_old_002__2__small
What the Celtics are missing...an identity!!
Small
The Inconvenience of Eddie House

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

Sponsors


Managers

Shamrock-blk-trans_small Jeff Clark

Editors

Hoosiers-dvdcover_small Roy_Hobbs

Leon_powe_small Green17

Ud_small indeedproceed

300h_small Wide Load

Authors

Photo_14_small Steve Weinman

1_koolaid_avi_small FLCeltsFan

Po3_small Master Po

Images_small Bent

Small tenaciousT

Big_4_small jimmyt

Celtics_shirt_small Greg Payne