Howard Calls Out Coach
I think it would be a major understatement to say that the Magic are frustrated. They almost caved in game one, lost on a buzzer beater in game 4, and collapsed last night. So now their best player is calling out their coach.
First he's calling for the ball more.
“You’ve got a dominant player,” Howard pleaded late Tuesday night. “Let him be dominant.”
“I have to get the ball,” Howard said. “I don’t think you are going to win a lot of games when your post player only gets 10 shots. It’s tough to get yourself going and get a lot of shots without a lot of touches. We have to get better with that.”
I can understand the best player on a team wanting the ball more, but to make the case publicly is a slam on the coach and undermines his authority.
But it didn't stop there. Dwight questioned Stan Van Gundy's handling of the game.
“The coaches have to recognize what’s working on the floor and stick with it,” he said. “When you’re in a situation where guys got it going, you know everybody’s moving the ball and the energy is up, you have to stick with … what works.”
That is a direct and very public shot at the coaching staff and Van Gundy in particular. That can't be good for them.
Dwight is taking a major gamble making these statements. He's hoping that the coaching staff will hear his plea and that the rest of his team will rally around him (even if it is at the expense of the coach). He seems to be trying to inspire his team when the chips are down.
Personally I think it is a misguided attempt that will ultimately backfire with a fractured lockerroom and major question marks headed into the offseason. Which would be just fine with me, but the Celtics still need to go out and win one more game. They have to take advantage of this situation and knock the Magic out when they are staggering.
Stan Van Gundy just got a vote of no-confidence from his best player. That's bad for them, good for us. Hopefully the Celtics can take advantage.
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Who's the dominant post player he's talking about?
by cordobes on May 13, 2009 8:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My reaction, exactly.
The only post player I’ve seen is a guy who’s largely been shut down by Perkins – who remains to this point my MVP of the series.
by CoachBo on May 13, 2009 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they’ll get over this quickly. Howard was just being a little immature. SVG will have them on his hand by the moment next game is starting. He’s a good coach, he knows how to deal with these issues.
by cordobes on May 13, 2009 8:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
For this:
I think they’ll get over this quickly. Howard was just being a little immature. SVG will have them on his hand by the moment next game is starting. He’s a good coach, he knows how to deal with these issues.
What are your sources for that statement?
by BOSPORTS on May 13, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hear's your
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by TrentEdwardsHoF2018
by Screen Name on May 14, 2009 4:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with him
Its a criminal misunderstanding of the game of basketball to use a center of his skill for rebounds and garbage buckets only. With that said this is probably better as an internal statement, unless its not getting through to SVG
by WhaHuh on May 13, 2009 8:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's not criminal
when that’s all your center is capable of. Blood out of a turnip and all that.
by Ersatz on May 13, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When is Howard going to develop any sort of moves to the basket?
On offense, the guy has a six-inch game. He has one move - the slam dunk. He missed the rim at least three times on his glide through the lane and hoist up a prayer move, which seems to be the only one he has.
by vinnie on May 13, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gamble
That I can see this ‘gamble’, as you put it, paying off…at least in this series…at least tomorrow night…
This series, sadly, I predict, is going seven.
Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk
by mcpu40 on May 13, 2009 8:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm through with predictions
even though I called the blowout win in game 2 this series has been anything but predictable
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
by Jeff Clark on May 13, 2009 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
They’re the World Champions for a reason and will remain as such until someone takes that away from them.
Howard has great points….and probably a lot of ‘pull’ in the locker room and on the floor.
I tried to pop over to Orlando’s blog after the game.
They had a WHOPPING 1750 comments to their thread…hard to believe.
Seemed like most blamed the Stan Van Gundy.
Predictions are just that…however, given all that’s gone on in with the Celtics in particular this post season, it’d be in the NBA’s best interest to force a game 7…
What, game 7 of the the Chicago series was the most watched first round game 7 ever?
Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk
by mcpu40 on May 13, 2009 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All I see is it is a bad move by Dwight and it will cause friction in that lockeroom. It will only help the Celtic’s even more. Series over in 6.
by NoraG1 on May 13, 2009 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope you are correct!!!!!!!!!
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Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk
by mcpu40 on May 13, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Howard has not been dominant
Unless he’s under the rim on the catch, Howard has NO post game at all. He has one move – the Patrick Ewing walk thru the lane hook shot, that he misses more than he makes! Perk has neutralized him pretty much the whole series. That is not dominant, and that’s why he is not involved down the stretch.
by evrock on May 13, 2009 8:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He didn’t get just 10 touches, he took only 10 shots because he couldn’t do anything once he got the ball. He couldn’t back down Perk or Baby and ended up passing up the ball abunch of times. He is really unpolished at this point so hopefully he tries to force things in Game 6.
I’m more worried about Lewis. We can’t seem to stop him.
by klc on May 13, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
Howard has not impressed me at all this series. Given his size and athleticism, he SHOULD be dominating down low, but has not. Perk has done an absolutely amazing job defending him and forcing him to throw up those ugly hook shots. Howard seems to get his points off of rebounds, not offensive post moves. If the C’s can continue to do a good job containing him on the blocks and do a better job boxing him out on the offensive boards, I like our chances. Then again, it’s tough when Howard goes over the back constantly and it doesn’t get called…
by UGotRondo'd on May 13, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dominant post player
I don’t see it, KP plays him welland I don’t like calling out coaches via the media
by Celtic33@FLA. on May 13, 2009 8:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
More Running Hookshots from Dwight...
means I have an easier sleep at night!
by Jackson34 on May 13, 2009 8:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what's broken wont fix
Boston in six
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by TrentEdwardsHoF2018
by Screen Name on May 14, 2009 4:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
tension in the ranks
with the opponent’s star player and coach not seeing eye to eye…….
it definitely is a clear opportunity for another win …I sure hope we can capitalize on this…..
by celtpinoy on May 13, 2009 8:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wrong on the first point, right on the second
The dominant player on that team is Rashard, why are they not going to him over and over and over??
by rickyfan3.0... on May 13, 2009 8:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They did. He came in with 5:54 left, and missed all 3 shots he took over the next 3 minutes, and lost the ball at a key moment leading to a layup. The Magic forgot to drive the ball down the stretch. They all just kept jacking them up.
by evrock on May 13, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the truth is Lewis is having some trouble with babies size. He can't stop him on offense and Baby is very strong so Lewis is stuck shooting jumpers.
I am just saying their is an actual reason Lewis hasn’t gone off for 45. Baby may be wearing him down a little. As chunky as baby looks, is there any statistical sign he gets tired at all?? All he is doing is making shots at the end of games and looking fresh. Lewis otoh is missing open jumpers
I agree with others though. It won’t be easy to get another one and Lewis going off will be a key to a Magic win
by wahz on May 13, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting...
…counterpoint about Lewis, as Lewis killed the Celts in our losses. I still believe Lewis and Turkoglu are the matchups the Magic must exploit in order to beat us, not Howard. When Howard gets fouls called like a normal person, the Superman cape falls right off. He predicates his defense on being able to roam from the weak side. When Howard has to commit to a defender, which the Celtics have seen much more in the least two games, he isn’t nearly as effective in spite of his considerable size and athletic ability. If you need evidence look at the Howard’s/team block totals for the wins versus the losses. Frankly, Howard has it backwards. Perk has done a great job of controlling Howard as the series has gone on. Unless Howard catches the ball “six inches” from the basket and dunks, he has a whole lot more difficulty scoring. Way to destroy the locker room at a crucial juncture of the series, Dwight…. For this reason, I believe the Celts will win game 6. Their team hit the ropes last night and, instead of scrapping and clawing their way out of the corner, they folded. Ah well…
by BleedinGreen417 on May 13, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Howard was dead wrong
"The coaches have to recognize what’s working on the floor and stick with it," he said. "When you’re in a situation where guys got it going, you know everybody’s moving the ball and the energy is up, you have to stick with … what works."
But you didn’t have it going anymore anymore Dwight. Let’s examine this a little. You push the lead to 14 with 8:48 left. After a Boston timeout, Steph drops 5 straight points to get it back to 9. Then all you do is trade baskets until 5:54, at which point SVG goes back to the starters. Your so-called “got it going” guys, couldn’t shake us, and couldn’t but the hammer down. You guys live and die with Hedo and Lewis down the stretch, and if they miss shots, which they did, you have deal with it.
by evrock on May 13, 2009 8:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ironic
Considering that one of SVG’s questionable moves last night was having Howard on the floor at the end of the game, when he could be (and was) fouled.
It will be interesting to see how it plays out. On the one hand, Howard getting the ball more plus playing at home could equal foul trouble for our bigs — something they’ve done a very good job of avoiding (and Doc has done a good job managing) all series. On the other hand, I think I might prefer Howard shooting hook shots and free throws to his teammates shooting 3s.
by MattD on May 13, 2009 9:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He has been ineffective with his touches
I know he is shooting over 50%, but if you just count his isolation plays, I am willing to bet that FG% drops significantly. His best offensive game so far in the series is game 4 when the Magic shot 40%, definitely a lot of put back opportunities.
The most calm I have been watching the games is when they isolate him. He drives AWAY from the baseline and throws a hook shoot. And it rarely goes in. He will probably improve his game as he gets older, but as of right now, he should take a look at KG as an example. A great player who is at his best when focused on the dirty work and defense.
by afflatus on May 13, 2009 9:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am hoping SVG calls him for it
and show him the video of these shots
but again that could go 2 ways
1. the team would lose faith in howard and just jump shoot all the way
2. dwight goes crazy on us and scores 50 next game
by aboubata on May 13, 2009 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s pretty clear to me that some of the Magic players don’t like their coach. Where Doc is supportive but firm, Van GUndy is sarcastic. A team can’t live on a steady diet of negativism and for that reason alone I thought we had an edge on the Magic in this series. Do they have more talent than us with KG and Powe out? No question. Like the Bulls they arguably should have won this series by now but like the Bulls the Magic don’t know how to pull out the close ones and we do. Stan VG appears to be unviersally dislike by the media. Last night in his post game press conference he whined about how the Magic will never get a call against the Celtics in Boston. I get how he might be upset about the Turkolu no call and even the Rondo shot but how about the Howard walk or Howard over the back of Pierce and others a bunch of times with no call or even the non call on an offensive foul by Howard when he went straight into Perk? Those things tend to even out over the course of the series. Van Gundy was snippy with the media and afterwards Rick Kamla buried him on NBA TV, Just completely buried him. If I’m Otis Smith I give serious consideration to canning SVG. I just don’t see him as a coach that’s going to win you a title. At the end of the day no matter how good a coach is at x’s and o’s , the job is about managing people and getting them to perform at the right time. Doc has shown that he is great at that. He also was brilliant down the stretch last night, making all of the right substitutions, using his to’s and not allowing the Magic to put up a three. Had he done that against the bulls that series would have been over in 6
by Red2 on May 13, 2009 9:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
not picking on you Red but the bulls beat us repeatedly in overtime so they knew how to win the close ones too
thank God that stuff is over with the Bulls
by wahz on May 13, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting...
…point about SVG and Doc and their coaching styles.
by BleedinGreen417 on May 13, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our Game 6 Priority...
Keep Perk, Davis, and even scal out of foul trouble. I’m positive after these comments and watching film, SVG will be feeding the ball to Howard and Lewis most the night. He would have to, because if he doesnt, and they lose, he might as well of signed his own pink slip out of town…
Playing at Orlando, their bigs are going to get more calls. We only have 3 bigs that can even begin to guard theirs. We have to be smart up front and know what a good foul is and use them sparingly.
by cordialb on May 13, 2009 9:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Eat your words Rashard Lewis!
OK, so he thought we were unprofessional because we celebrated a game that we barely won, that would have put us in a deep hole, playing on the road, and featured the unlikeliest of heroes?
If you tell me Dwight Howard calling out Ron Jeremy and blaming him on the loss in front of the whole country does not top this, then I don’t know what does.
What’s he gonna say? Dwight said it not him? That would be too unprofessional wouldn’t it?
by afflatus on May 13, 2009 9:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am interested in how this all plays out...
From my perspective, SVG has an opportunity here to rally the team. Let’s see how he handles it. If he meets with the players and let’s the steam be blown off and gets down to the x’s and o’s at practice, and takes into account the points made by Howard, we might end up seeing a focused Magic team with a new sense of team identity if he gets it right with the players after this. They must have enough respect for him to get this far, and SVG has demonstrated that he is capable of getting his team this far, pretty close to the ECF. I am curious to see what they do now.
by jyrecelts on May 13, 2009 9:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just missing they're shots
All season long, the Magic have been successful because of their long range bombs. Rashard gives a lot of operating room for Dwight because of his 3-point threat. And i don’t think they’ll come this far without the resurrection of Weirdo Turkolu’s game.
Magic shooters has proven that they can deliver. They’re just missing their shots. Alston has missed a wide open 3, so did Hedo and Lewis. But this players (except for skip) have proven themselves all season long. Dwight has to respect that. Yes he is the franchise player, BUT only because he is young and he’s got POTENTIAL. He wants his touches, then earn it. He hasn’t been able to seal Perk nor Baby properly.
As SVG… I wish he’ll stay as the head coach of the magic. But only because he reminds me of Paul Bearer. =)
by HomerJSimpson on May 13, 2009 10:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that is why Dwight is a litle right
Dump the ball into the post, it is clear the Celtics are giving more room to the 3pt shooters to defend the post.
I don’t think Howard needs to shoot a lot, but he should touch the ball more.
by aboubata on May 13, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pierce vs. SVG
Did anyone else see them jawing at eachother in the 3rd? Pierce kept shaking his head with looks of disgust
by wahmbulance on May 13, 2009 10:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Stan Van Gundy is RON JEREMY!!!!!!!!
Is anyone else sick and tired of this guy? Jawing with our players, hearing him at every time out. I hope Ron Jeremy does take DaaaWight Howard’s advice and we’ll get to see a barrage of ugly hook shots. If he does we should squeak by once again in game 6. If Duhhhwight Howard is indeed Superman, than big Perk is KRYPTONITE
by pjbigshow on May 13, 2009 10:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd believe Howard was dominant if he could move Perkins out of the post.
Perkins is not the offensive force Howard is, but he’s kind of been having his way in the paint this series. Howard can’t move him.
by eastie Rich on May 13, 2009 10:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Let's Get Some Things Straight
1. It was the Orlando players who choked, not the coach. They made zero field goals during the last 5 and a half minutes. They had open looks, but couldn’t knock them down.
2. It’s easy to say that “Rashard Lewis should have gotten the ball” or “Dwight Howard should have gotten the ball.” But the fact is that the Celtics made that very difficult. They forced Orlando to go to their 3rd or 4th option— the same thing that Orlando was doing. The difference is that BBD delivered, including two jump hooks over Dwight Howard. Rafer Alston and the rest of Orlando’s supportijng cast didn’t.
3. As others have noted, Dwight Howard is not a good offensive player. He’s a physical specimen and a dunker. But both Perkins and BBD defend the post very well, and have the bulk to force him into a difficult shot. Plus, Howard does not pass well out of the double teams. He wouldn’t be my option at the end of a game either.
4. Orlando had a legitimate beef on the non-call against Hedo. That play could have gone either way. But in fairness, Orlando was mugging Pierce throughout the game, and there were plenty of non-calls on that end as well. Hedo missed the shot. Too bad, end of story.
5. In retrospect, that Chicago series really helped the Celtics. It gave them mental toughness. They might even win a game or two against the Cavs.
by Brickowski on May 13, 2009 10:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It was the Orlando players who choked, not the coach.
I fully agree
by Who on May 13, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nailed it, Brick
And I would add that as the playoffs wear on, the law of diminishing averages makes the “crucial moment” big play that much more likely in any given game, especially when it’s down to four, then two teams, and the team with the right belief / attitude can win games just by executing under pressure, as we have witnessed…
by jyrecelts on May 13, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree some
I wish there is a video of that hedo drive. Hedo was so scared that he curled before the contact, which tells me that he was going for the contact instead of the shot and I think sometimes the official are sick of seeing these things and they don’t call them (happens to Paul a lot).
by aboubata on May 13, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We’ve defintiely seen similar plays with Paul. Sometimes you get that call sometimes you don’t..
by Berkcelt on May 13, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’d be hard to disagree that the players didn’t choke, but that doesn’t mean the coach didn’t either. Players do take cues from coaches and can be redirected by them. I’ll never forget Doc leading the team like he did in the Finals last year when they made the comeback. That’s inspiration. Wouldn’t surprise me if SVG gave them the opposite last night.
by Berkcelt on May 13, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Point 1
How many open shots they missed? I only remember Lewis bricking an wide open 3, when they were up by four. Other than that, they either forced shots (like Hedo’s and Alston’s out of control lay-ups) or were well contested.
Anyway, SVG choked because he needlessly put his team in a situation they’d be able to choke. He allowed Marbury and our bench to put us back in the game – not exactly in terms of score, but by energizing the crowd and the starters. Battie was leaving Davis open in every possession, doing nothing to stop Marbury’s pick’n’roll and he kept him out there till the 5 minutes mark. They were answering in every possession, but when the starters came back, Boston had the momentum of the game. He only subbed when Doc subbed, he was completely reactionary, when he should have had the killer instinct and went to the jugular when he had the chance. Plus, I don’t like to see Hedo running the point for so long. Sooner or later he’ll start to force things and to commit mistakes. And Redick has been playing decent defence on Ray Allen, but he’s been atrocious with his shooting in his last 3 games and if he’s not going to take shots, let Pietrus finish the game.
About point 2. – during that debacle, Rashard Lewis lost every possession they had until Hedo’s drive. Then Alston also missed a drive and in the next possession the C’s were already up by 1. This is where I also blame SVG. Why did he allow Rashard to keep trying to create shots? Especially after freezing him for 6 minutes.
4. Hedo went too soft on Perkins to get that call. Same for Pierce in many non-calls.
by cordobes on May 13, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Finally dwight said it.
I mean I hope the Celtics win, but for Dwight to get better the coaches need to change that play book. What I don’t understand is if Perkins is shutting him down then why not run a pick and roll for Dwight and create a miss match. They seem to just dribble jack up shots and hope that Dwight will catch an offensive rebound. On any other team Dwight would be a mega star he would probably be complaining about getting too many touches. Dwights stats should be 20.6 points 13.6 rebounds and at least 7.6 assists from getting double teamed.
by Holdmypickle on May 13, 2009 10:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Double teamed?
Players who can’t score consistently on the block, don’t get consistently double teamed.
by cordobes on May 13, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What Dwight needs is a better centers coach and more of a work ethic.
by eastie Rich on May 13, 2009 10:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who coaches dwight for Orlando? Cliff's on our side now...
by jyrecelts on May 13, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Patrick Ewing
Who can’t understand why he never gets any interviews for coaching jobs. Maybe if he showed some ability to develop a single player, that would change.
by MattD on May 13, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, I think those post moves that Ewing has been teaching Howard have been holding him back.
The Magic need to fire Pat Ewing.
by Who on May 13, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know about firing him, but...
I just can’t remember well enough to be confident, but didn’t Ewing have the rep of not coming through in the clutch?
by jyrecelts on May 13, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perk, Perk, Perk, Perk,
Give the man some credit for defending well against Howard and not allowing them to pass the ball inside to him
Missing Jameer Nelson at the Point has been a huge loss for the Magic. All you have to do is look at the Assist Box Score from each game to realize that Howard is simply not getting the ball because they have no one to give it to him
As far as the Coach, I have to agree with Brickowski’s comments …….
by Ancient Red on May 13, 2009 11:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree — A lot of Orlando’s erratic decision making stem from the loss of Jameer Nelson.
Orlando are dependent on having both Nelson and Hedo for their drive and kick game to be fully functional. If one is missing, the team’s offense becomes vulnerable.
by Who on May 13, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree about Perk. It seems like Baby can play the positioning well, forcing him into that awkward running “Ewing shot” but because he can’t get up high enough/reach his arm up, Howard can make the shot at a pretty good clip. Perk takes him off his spot and can still challenge the shot.
by Berkcelt on May 13, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Orlando will be a great team
Someday. Just not now. With Nelson back, and another year of experience for Howard, they will be formidable next year. I assume SVG will not return… whether it’s his fault or not, there are now 3 players on the team that have publicly expressed dissatisfaction and/or fought with him and/or his coaching… so right or wrong, he’s apparently wrong for this team. (And it’s not like these are toublemaking players… Howard is a good kid, and Johnson and Lewis are pretty solid.)
Next year, all those post moves Howard misses now will start to fall… and his FTs will improve too. He will get tougher and more dominant. And they’ll finally have a go-to guy in Nelson. And btw, I’d trade Alston.
by DRJ1 on May 13, 2009 11:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You can throw in Gortat for public complaints as well.
by Berkcelt on May 13, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bye Bye SVG
Watch the Sactown coaching carrousel slow waaaay down as they wait to see if/when SVG gets canned.
NBA 101: when your franchise player and your coach don’t get along, the coach gets his walking papers.
"People don't understand, if you can't live the rest of your life off one year in the NBA, you can't live off 21." -- Keon Clark
by Eeyore III on May 13, 2009 11:12 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Howard is a chump
Why give the ball to a post player who has no post game? If he’s not following up his teammates’ misses with slam dunks, or making little throw-ins off great passes from his teammates, he has no offensive game. And no, that little running “hook” “shot” is not an offensive game. It’s the basketball equivalent to a shot-put throw. I said this last week, but it’s because of this that Howard is not an elite player in the league. He’s a more athletic version of Perk, but Perk at least knows who is.
This loss is totally on the Magic players. I hope they do fire Van Gundy, because as bad of a personnel manager he seems to be, he’s also an outstanding X and Os coach. The Magic did have the league’s best D this year, and considering how limited all of his players are offensively, excepting Turkoglu, he’s done a pretty good job on the offensive end too.
by Ersatz on May 13, 2009 11:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Film Don’t Lie. Ron Jeremy needs to show Supergirl how ineffective he has been. At least the Celts know how to deal with using Ray as a decoy. Suergirl needs to understand his role better.
But, when the Magic are behind in the fourth quarter and Supergirl decides to put the team on his shoulders, and fails, and gets frustrated, Celts win.
by johnnymost on May 13, 2009 11:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kelly Dwyer on Howard
Call me the opposite of old fashioned, but I don’t think the Orlando Magic are losing because Dwight Howard(notes) isn’t getting enough touches. […]
Dwight Howard has no moves. He’s a dominant force, and well deserving of that Defensive Player of the Year, but his moves are crap. I saw him throw some junk up against Kendrick Perkins(notes) that Brett Szabo would be ashamed of, and those moves are not something I can blame on “well, he hasn’t gotten the ball in a while, so he’s forcing things with the clock running down.” Believe me, I love Dwight, I love it when big men get the rock, and I’m making all the excuses I can for the guy.
But he has no moves. Lefty runners are nice, but the guy has no turnaround jumper, he has no righty jump (or rolling) hook he can continually go to, and his drop step is lousy. It’s very early in his career, it’s no slam on Dwight, it’s just the unfortunate reality (soon to change, I’m sure) in May of 2009.
Bork bork bork!
by Avinash on May 13, 2009 12:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Howard's Blaming the Wrong Guy
I don’t blame SVG as much as I blame the point guard. He’s the one with the direct say of who gets the ball and where they get it.
I think if Jameer Nelson had played, they don’t blow that game.
by Kuberski33 on May 13, 2009 12:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
IF
I think if Jameer Nelson had played, they don’t blow that game.
If KG plays, this series isn’t nearly so competitive.
by BleedinGreen417 on May 13, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Confused
Did you guys see the players being confused to where they should be in that last play.
it is your last play, last time out. That is not acceptable.
by aboubata on May 13, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
howard just put all the pressure on his back, he wants the ball? he can be sure hes going to get it next game, and every shot he misses will be completely demoralizing.
by spinz on May 13, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i think boston rolls tomorrow
just think orlando is team turmoil and under a lot of pressure….C’s by 8
by celticinorlando on May 13, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Van Gundy set himself up for this
After game 4 when he took responsibility for losing the game rather than giving credit to the Celtics for making a play with their third option. It is a double edged sword, if he can blame himself for a loss, so can his players.
by michael32951 on May 13, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
who hasnt called van gundy?
Only The Strong Survive
by RsEaVeY95 on May 13, 2009 8:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
According to an Orlando newspaper article I read today,
the two have kissed and made up!
"I was playing in the streets one time and my friend broke off a leg to a chair and threw it at another guy through his heart and he died." - Ron Artest, QB's finest
by endverse on May 14, 2009 9:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I won't be surprised if the Magic play a big game.
They are here now because they do deserve to be, and how they react tonight won’t detract from that, though it will ‘bode’ for the future. If SVG is such a lousy coach, if things are this bad, and Howard is such a lousy offensive player then they are serious overacheivers even being in game 6 in the semis. I don’t buy it. I’ve seen many meltdowns by teams unraveling and this doesn’t smell like that. If your coach and your star can blow off steam from tough losses and the media blows it up, that diffuses a lot of the gut-check stuff that REALLY MATTERS. We all know the C’s can win a close game, now the Magic have to prove they have what it takes to beat us. My money is on the scenarion of those guys focusing on what they need to do, not this media bs.
by jyrecelts on May 14, 2009 12:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
























