Don't Call It A Comeback
...because we didn't win. Down 28 points, they clawed all the way back to within 3 points but couldn't finish off the comeback.
It feels a bit like deja vu to me because the last time these two teams played, the Magic built a double digit lead, watched Boston come roaring back only to fall short in the end. Back then Magic fans were rattled and Celtics fans were emboldened by the "good loss." The thinking was that the Celtics proved that the Magic were just hot at the start and if we could just play a more even game, we'd win.
Well, at some point we have to stop getting down by double digit deficits so we don't have to mount furious comebacks that may or may not save the day.
Then again, this may be the nature of the beast playing against the Magic. If their shots are falling, they are a tough out. If they are not falling, they can be beat. Today we saw both sides in the same game.
Oh well. Once again, so much for home court. Now we have to turn around and beat them in Orlando.
Other quick hit notes:
- Scalabrine was a +22 on the floor (with 10 points) - he played very well
- Ray Allen was a -15 (with only 9 points) - didn't see that one coming
- Rondo was up and down like a roller coaster - didn't see that one coming either
- Pietrus with 17 big points for them - say it with me, ...didn't see that one coming either
I'll leave you with a final good note: Between this game and the Bulls series and even tossing in the record setting Finals comeback game from last year; it all leads me to the same conclusion. This team is never, ever, ever out of it for sure until the buzzer sounds. We have Paul and Ray and championship defense and a whole lotta pride, so you can never count this team out.
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There goes home court. Terrible second quarter.
by Brickowski on May 4, 2009 10:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So the magic almost blew a 28pt lead… I think we can still win the series..
by drod400 on May 4, 2009 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Orlando is garbage
This is the second time they have built massive leads against the Celtics only to nearly blow them. I don’t have any respect for this team.
by burnin' on May 4, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
a win is a win
by 5 or by 30. the Celtics, specifically Rondo decided to give the game away in the second quarter.
by reggie35 on May 4, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They're good at blowing leads
See: the Magic-76ers series
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by Prevenge on May 4, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we will win this series...
the magic looked bad in both halves, we can beat them if we play decent basketball
by hpantazo on May 4, 2009 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Boston played very badly for an entire half. Orlando doesn’t have much of a homecourt advantage (they play well at home, but it’s nothing overwhelming). I’d be very encouraged if I was a Celtic fan. The Magic have been questioned for their mental toughness all playoffs long, and this seems like good evidence of it.
Bork bork bork!
by Avinash on May 4, 2009 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Magic stink, flat out
a good regular season team that relies too much on the 3
can’t explain the C’s play; it was like they were just drifting for 2 quarters
play a whole game and they should win
by KJR on May 4, 2009 10:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
C’s did not show up for 2 and a half qtr, down by only 3 with seconds to go, Had we just made some of our FT, this game would have been ours….Ray was again terrible in game one…Magic was very lucky to have won this one but I have zero confidence in the Magic winning this series…had the C;s showed up early, this would have been a win.
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by bopna on May 4, 2009 10:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Made some of our FT?
The Celtics went 22-for-26 (84%) from the line. That’s pretty damn good I’d say.
by joebianca on May 4, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scalabrine played very well too
Bork bork bork!
by Avinash on May 4, 2009 10:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ugh
Rondo.. watching him is just so frustrating. 7 turnovers!! sleepwalking for an entire half. If he doesn’t play well, we have absolutely no chance.
by Pengaloo on May 4, 2009 10:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice that the refs took it upon themselves
To stop a monumental choke by the Magic with the no-call on Howard on the Pierce drive. What does Howard have to do to get called for a foul? He’s as soft as a marshmallow and whenever he got the ball in the post, Perkins pushed him around like a little kid. I wouldn’t be too worried about this series, but if Howard gets away with that at the end of a game in Boston, what will he be allowed to do in Orlando?
by joebianca on May 4, 2009 10:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pierce initiated the contact...
…sorry, but that the rule – Pierce made the contact, no Howard.
by BillfromBoston on May 4, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Turkoglu did the same thing
At the end of the first half against Baby, and Baby was called for the foul. And I don’t think Pierce made first contact anyway. Howard came over, bumped him, was in the restricted area and didn’t have his hands straight up. It was a foul.
by joebianca on May 4, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since when does that stop officials are calling that for star players?
A bit too idealistic, perhaps?
by a tommy point on May 4, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blah, typos.
I mean, “since when does that stop officials from calling that for star players?”
by a tommy point on May 4, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree. Looked like Howard walked into the spot, Pierce was already in the air. His arms were straight up tho.
by Berkcelt on May 5, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I learned from the Houston series that is not a foul
Yao did that the entire series, hands up in the restricted area. Roy never got a call on Yao even though he got bumped many times. Rocket fans explained to me as long as the defensive player already establishes the position and not taking a charge, it is not a foul if the offensive player initiates the contact.
Apparently the NBA clarified the rule. I can’t imagine refs calling that foul in the last minutes anyways.
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by blzrfan on May 4, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I realize that
But I don’t think Howard had position and I don’t think Pierce made first contact. Hopefully I can catch a replay, but on first viewing, it looked to me like Howard came over and bumped Pierce.
by joebianca on May 4, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, it was a close call
It seems like the refs let most of the contact go in the 2nd half from the bigs. They were calling handchecking and bodychecks, but the bigs didn’t pick up fouls.
Life is not by chance. Basketball is life.
by blzrfan on May 4, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why does it matter if it's in the restricted area or not?
Refs already call too many blocking fouls because the players are in the restricted area. Blocking fouls aren’t called differently if the defensive player are in or out the restricted area.
by cordobes on May 4, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mention restricted area because I thought it was a foul on Yao
Yea, it doesn’t matter if the defensive player is in or out of the restricted area. As long as they establish position and go straight up.
Life is not by chance. Basketball is life.
by blzrfan on May 4, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yes they are
Here is the rule copied directly from the rule book:
An offensive foul should never be called if the contact is with a secondary defensive player who has established a defensive position within a designated “restricted area” near the basket for the purpose of drawing an offensive foul.
The “restricted area” for this purpose is the area bounded by an arc with a 4-foot radius measured from the middle of the basket.
EXCEPTION: Any player may be legally positioned within the “restricted area” if the offensive player receives the ball within the Lower Defensive Box.
The whole reason the restricted area was put into the game was to keep defenders from camping out directly under the basket in hopes of picking up a charge call.
by Jaycelt on May 5, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even so,
I’d imagine there are complaints on the other side about our guys getting away with murder on the interior when we were making our run.
The selectivity-of-official-critiquing game frustrates me.
-sw
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by Steve Weinman on May 5, 2009 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never complain or talk about officiating. It's just pointless, in my opinion.
There was a little chatter about the zebras from our side, but that’s about it .. btw.
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by erivera7 on May 5, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
all on Doc
We had multiple opportunities to climb back into this and our stagnant offense was unable to come up with points… that is all on Doc. He needed to come up with a rotation that worked and he didnt.
Then, when he found it, he took out Marbury. Unreal.
by manninti on May 4, 2009 10:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmm, we did climb back into this, so not sure what you're talking about
and you don’t think he found it when we came back from a 28 point deficit to make it three? Doc played the game well. I don’t have any qualms with his management. I esp liked him leaving Scal out there.
by Slick on May 4, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be more impressive...
..if Boston hadn’t fallen behind by over 20 points in each of the last 3 games they’ve played against Orlando…
If Boston could just keep a game close they’d win down the stretch, but they’re blowing their load just making it a game…
Also – how does Marbury never see the court again in a game where Rondo was a total liability for 80% of the time he was on the court?
Its great for the starters confidence to roll with them through thick and thin, but it does nothing for the bench and this team could have used a nasty night from Steph…or anybody for that matter.
I expect Ray to do what Ray does and Pierce will be about the same, but Rondo has to play like a star and not a fart if they want to advance…
…and goddamn – don’t play Rondo 40+ minutes if he isn’t playing like a 40+ minute player – we had other options tonight and Doc bricked…
by BillfromBoston on May 4, 2009 10:42 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
You play the guys who got you there
marbury was already starting to cool down when Doc took him out, clanking a few shots. I was surprised to not see Marbury after that nice spurt, but then again, we reduced a 28 point deficit to 3 without him out there…so i find it difficult to pass such judgment on Doc.
by Slick on May 4, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
thats true
but marbury was having his best game so far and he only plays him 8 min bad move
by hourman on May 4, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was hoping for more time
Still I looked and there wasn’t enough that’s just become of no timeouts and not fouling early enough. A good hard fight until the end it looks very decent if we come back and blow them out. I can find us winning next two no doubt after losing another first game at home just needs to wake them out of this slump.
by illestmcsgt on May 4, 2009 10:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just like the last few games against Orlando
We fall behind big, stage an exciting comeback, but can’t quite pull it out. The sad thing is, Orlando was begging to be beaten, and careless play — and not being willing to keep doing what got us back in the game — cost us.
At least looking at the game film will be a good lesson: play the way we started the game and we get blown out, play the way we played from the middle of the 3rd quarter to the middle of the 4th, and we can beat this team.
Scal gets the Green Lantern Award for being the true superhero of this game.
by MattD on May 4, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
When we play defense...
…we are a great team.
by beantownkid10 on May 4, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Marbury has to play a role...
…in this series – he did his part by working hard and coming out agressive and hot as hell..Doc Iced him for no reason.
by BillfromBoston on May 4, 2009 10:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Because Rondo decided he wanted to play in teh 2nd half
by beantownkid10 on May 4, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I loved Rondo's aggresiveness the 2nd half....
but boy, he can’t buy a bucket. He’s gone absolutely cold since the slap heard around the world against CHI game 5. Also, his aggressiveness led to a couple costly turns in the 4th quarter. But I’ll still take 2nd half Rondo over 1st half Rondo.
by BostonisaBrotherhood on May 4, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
noticed the same thing
I’ve noticed the same thing with Rondo’s offense—it’s been absolutely atrocious since game 5 in the last series.
by slamtheking on May 4, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Rodon had 5 or 6 turnovers in the second half
including 3 in the fourth quarter. This is another one of those Rondo stat lines that does not communicate how poorly he played the majority of the time he was on the floor. Doc not playing Marbury in the second half is a totally boneheaded move and there really is no good reason.
by vinnie on May 4, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When Doc took him out, he was already playing badly
Taking two ill-advised shots and not looking for passes. Playing like the good old Marbury. And that’s the bad Marbury.
He could have played him in the 2nd half, but when? Rondo was showing signs of improvement and we needed the defence.
by cordobes on May 4, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rondo was a part of the comeback..
…but he also “lost it” as far a playing effectively well before the game was over.
As far as “bad Marbury” the guy missed two quality looks and he was on fire – our star players do that stuff all the time – he had 8 points and 3 assists and was making excellent overall decisions with the ball – he should have seen more time – period.
by BillfromBoston on May 5, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Atleast we know Scal..
…can shut down Rashard Lewis.
by beantownkid10 on May 4, 2009 10:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Very encouraging. Scal played a great game.
by joebianca on May 4, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
more importantly
he can defend Hedo.
by cordobes on May 4, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sooner or later
Defenders need to learn that Turkoglu can’t put the ball on the floor without dropping his shoulder. If you just stand in front of him when he tries to drive, you can get a charge called every time.
by joebianca on May 5, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
start scal
someone called for it on the forum. it looks like a good idea.
how worthless must mikki moore feel?
i don’t have a good feeling at all about this series.
by reggie35 on May 4, 2009 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
they blew it themselves
their 4th quarter offense was atrocious. if they would have just slowed it down a notch, ease off the gas, and watch where they were going and what the other guys on the court were doing. they blew it themselves when the game was right there for their taking.
by gustusias on May 4, 2009 10:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Scal is a good starter
The Celtics are 8-0 with Scals as a starter. He helps spread the offense and he’s effective against Orlando.
by burnin' on May 4, 2009 10:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
fts
any reason that we hardly went to the line in the first half? not aggressive enough? tired legs from out game against chicago?
lets try and play the full 48 next time.
by fletchercail on May 4, 2009 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep, Rondo being the main culprit. Pierce getting into foul trouble hurt in this regard as well.
by Berkcelt on May 5, 2009 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's go through this:
PLAYER OF THE GAME: Scalabrine
DUMB PLAYER OF THE GAME: Rondo
SERIOUSLY NEEDS TO BREAK THE GAME 1 CURSE: Ray Allen
DUMB COACH OF THE GAME: Doc Rivers
by AlexC on May 4, 2009 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ooof.
Ray & Rondo will play better. Some stagnant offense by the C’s. Good to see signs of life from Marbury.
Foul trouble doomed the C’s tonight.
by LuckyNumber07 on May 4, 2009 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not really.
Stupid turnovers doomed the C’s tonight.
by AlexC on May 4, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah actually...
now that you mention it. that horrendous run started when pierce had to sit with 3 fouls
by reggie35 on May 4, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course, he is supposed to be our playmaker ... not theirs
by 33-32-00 on May 5, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
um right, that's what im saying...
which is why we lost tonight
by Slick on May 5, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we will be fine
Ray was off tonight and we still had a chance….a lot of missed opportunities with turnovers in the 4th but I think if we start Scal to guard Lewis it will give us a bit of lift in Game 2. We can win in Orlando.
by Beantown Troy on May 4, 2009 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
We need to start Scalabrine.
I would rather watch him play more minutes than Rondo.
by AlexC on May 4, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The way Rondo was playing....
Maybe he should learn to be more careful before the game and get his head straight. Scal start and Pierce needs to stick to Hedo and Scal can guard Lewis. Big Baby can help defend Howard but he can’t let him get the ball that low anymore. I hope TT comes up with some defensive schemes to take Howard completely off his game. I have a good feeling coming into this next game that we can take this loss and win back in Orlando.
by illestmcsgt on May 4, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm in disbelief of these comments
I’m going to pretend I didn’t just read more than one (which is already too many) people clamoring for scal to start over rondo.
he has been our best player in the playoffs and makes our engine go. so reactionary. it’s absurd.
by Slick on May 4, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mistaken
I believe they’re clamoring for Scal over Baby, not Rondo.
by slamtheking on May 4, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's possible, thanks for that
though i just re-read the commentary, and it’s awfully unclear
by Slick on May 4, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scal over Rondo would be nutty
… don’t assume posters are completely out of their minds (not usually anyway :)
by DRJ1 on May 4, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is Rashard’s stat when he is being guarded by Scal?….Even Hedo had some trouble when Scal was guarding him…If Iwere Doc, I would really look into starting Scal and try contain Rashard on the Perimeter.
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by bopna on May 4, 2009 10:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
As bad as we played
We still had a chance to win even with Ray’s poor shooting night
by Beantown Troy on May 4, 2009 10:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the game was right there for their taking
they could easily have won that game, but they played like jackasses in the fourth. i was sick of watching their ridiculous passes, shots, speed of play. everything was so fast and out of control. i too wanted to shoot rondo.
by gustusias on May 4, 2009 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, they made mistakes in the fourth
They also cut significantly into a 16-point deficit by outscoring Orlando by 11.
I don’t dispute your concerns with the lack of control, but some balance of assessment may be in order.
-sw
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by Steve Weinman on May 5, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
please watch the cursing
thanks
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by Jeff Clark on May 4, 2009 11:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tough to win in the playoffs
Or anywhere for that matter, when your three best offensive players go 11-for-42 from the floor with 10 turnovers.
by joebianca on May 4, 2009 11:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
magic in 6
sorry guys this series is over
by hourman on May 4, 2009 11:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Magic may win this...
..but as this game proved, it is hardly over.
by beantownkid10 on May 4, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe...maybe not
it is a marathon not a sprint…i fully believe boston will win one in orlando
by celticinorlando on May 4, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Series ain't over.
Celtics have a ton of fight left in ’em.
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by erivera7 on May 5, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow....
The Celtics have a lot of heart, but they are exhausted. They showed a championship heart and hopefully will have more energy in the 1st half of the next game. Best part of the game for me was when Rondo airballed that free throw and the Garden crowd cheered knowing full well how tired he was and how hard he played in that last series. Go Champs!
by liamail on May 4, 2009 11:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
few things
1. you have to come out better vs a good team like the magic
2. no FT attempts in the first half shows me that shot selection sucked
3. start scal on lewis
4. this team won’t quit…orlando might win it in 6 or 7 but it won’t be easy
5. game 2 now becomes massive for the C’s
by celticinorlando on May 4, 2009 11:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
On #2
Nailed it. The jumpers weren’t dropping. They needed to aggressively attack the basket. We saw how effective this was in the 3rd and most of the 4th quarter. Is it me or can Rondo totally dominate Alston at will? This needed to be exploited the 1st half.
by BostonisaBrotherhood on May 4, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup...boston played orlando's game
in the first half…quick threes that were not dropping….no excuse not to get to the rim…can’t always shoot jumpers
by celticinorlando on May 4, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you serious!
orlando will not! win this series…boston came out slow , rondo showed up an hour before the game and had a horrible shooting night with 7 turn overs (did he even have 7 turn overs in the bulls series?) ray llen was a little off…and Pietrus (spelling) will not get open looks again…once boston pressured orlando they couldnt do jack! Marbury was leading boston in scoring at the half and played 8 minutes,…that wont happen again..orlando lacked energy in the second half and they have had way more rest the boston!
by CeltsGreen9 on May 5, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Celts may eke out this series, but....
Allen was more than a “little off” tonight. He was 2-12.
by vinnie on May 5, 2009 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Allen and Rondo
were supposed to have two of the better matchups tonight against Redick and Alston respectively. Instead, they were a combined 4 for 24 sigh Allen looked like he was hussling but his shots certainly weren’t dropping and when he tried to penetrate he was mostly ineffective. I’m hoping Ray’s jumper turns around and he has an explosive game 2, this historically has been the case and he generally played well agains Chicago.
by BostonisaBrotherhood on May 5, 2009 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
allowing lewis to get going in the first half is on Doc
he was not a factor in the second half…START SCAL
by celticinorlando on May 4, 2009 11:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Flame away haters
I’ve been a semiregular on the game thread this season so I’m used to a fair amount of negativity and fear. But tonight’s hating on our team kinda got to me. Debate is fine, but realize that many of us are FANS of the Celtics. We want our team to win. We do not think Paul Pierce sucks. We are not going to quit on our team, especially before halftime. None of it affects our team, but it does affect the game thread. May I suggest that you will enjoy the games more if you let the Celtics do their thing and be proud of how well these guys are playing under tough circumstances?
by Thruthelookingglass on May 4, 2009 11:17 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
sure
sure fans are proud and cognizant of the difficulty faced this year but that doesn’t excuse mental lapses and careless play. Fans can still be supportive while calling out bad play by their team
by slamtheking on May 4, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fans can be supportive and point out bad play and poor decisions, however
there is a difference between “that was a careless play” or “our point guard play isn’t what it should be” and “Rondo sux” or “[expletive of choice] Pierce.”
by Thruthelookingglass on May 5, 2009 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
win or lose it don't matter
i love the celtics…i am still on cloud nine they won 17…they are giving it all they have…they are undermanned and tired..yet they don’t quit….
by celticinorlando on May 4, 2009 11:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I prefer wins, but I know what you mean.
It’s like this team has watched the Rocky movies waaaaay too many times.
by Thruthelookingglass on May 4, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They did quit
… in the entire first half.
by DRJ1 on May 4, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont think they are tired…they ar nba players and its the playoffs…mentally they just played sloppy in the first half..come on you got perk taking fad away jumpers…he never shoots 3-9 taking wild shots…he blocked howard twice and big baby got on on dwight..we lost because of open 3’s in the first half..it wont happen again!..i think the bulls are alot better than orlando simple and plain
by CeltsGreen9 on May 5, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's a habit they developed over the regular season
and it’s hard to snap out of it now. They use the first quarter, sometimes the first half, as something of a warmup.
by Thruthelookingglass on May 5, 2009 7:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
didn't see anyone else comment on this
but I’ve always wondered when someone was going to try to steal the ball from Rondo when he lets the ball roll up the floor. Finally saw someone take that chance tonight. Fortunately he got it back for a Scal 3 but he’s got to get smarter with handling the ball. way to careless tonight.
by slamtheking on May 4, 2009 11:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking that a steal attempt
like the one we saw tonight was going to happen — especially after that one time in which Rondo let the ball roll BEYOND the halfcourt line. I just had a feeling it was going to happen tonight too.
by rrc589 on May 4, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never liked that.
I’ve never liked him doing that. Teams are going to be attacking that more and more. You can’t get away with stuff like that for any amount of time in the NBA. Especially in the Playoffs.
by liamail on May 4, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they started the game by sleepwalking-no intensity. when they felt the depths of despair, they woke up and at least played intense defense. they became frenetic on offense and made too many rushed plays. they won’t win unless they play the charged up d.
by nazzbo on May 4, 2009 11:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ray & Rondo....
It just wasn`t their night…4 for 24.
It happens.
Doc uses his bench based on fan reaction :
-After Game 6 in Chicago, Doc`s afraid to put in TA.
-Fans not happy with Mikki, Doc won`t play him, eventhough ANY big is needed!
by Title 18 on May 4, 2009 11:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Doc thought Rondo was great
…at the end. That’s why he left Marbury on the bench. I dunno, sometimes I think Doc loses his mind altogether. Rondo got a LITTLE better…. more aggressive, more active …on D. But for the most part, I swear Rondo looked like he was TRYING TO THROW THE GAME. How do you not put Marbury in at the end, when we still had a chance? Weird, Doc, weird.
Scal played some great D on Lewis in the 4th. I think Scal will be seeing a lot more minutes going forward.
Magic suck at end of games. If the Cs can stay awake for like, you know, a WHOLE GAME for a change… we win, every time.
by DRJ1 on May 4, 2009 11:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rondo have a game reminiscent of his first two seasons in the league. Completely out of control in big spots.
by a tommy point on May 4, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
gosh
every post talks about how bad the magic are. they beat boston at home.
uhm.
by lakersbluedevil on May 4, 2009 11:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A little sick of hearing about Celtics' "heart" based on this game
What heart? The heart to sleepwalk through the entire first half? That heart? Puhlease. We sucked, and it was amazingly bad of the Magic that we ever got close at the end.
by DRJ1 on May 4, 2009 11:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree 100 percent
I was at the game and it was hard for me to remember them being as apathetic as they were in the second quarter and the first half of the third. As for Rondo, I just don’t get it. Many posters saying he got a little better in the second half. except for the 10 free throws he hit in the third quarter, I have to totally disagree. He turned the ball over 3 times in the fourth quarter and played totally out of control. He looked like a rookie. The worst part about Rondo’s game is that there is NO ONE on Orlando who can guard him and he turns in a garbage game. The new big three played like the little three tonight — when that happens the C’s won’t win.
by vinnie on May 4, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they are tired.
I don’t think it’s heart. The Celtics are just exhausted. That last series really took it out of them. They still played as hard as they could and they still almost won this one. Lotta Heart!!!
by liamail on May 4, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Living and ultimately dying by the 3...
The C’s beat themselves tonight. They could’ve totally won this. The Magic are seriously soft. Not sure if it’s cause we just beat the Chicago Brawlers Bulls, but Orlando clearly doesn’t have the mental toughness the Celts have.
I’m looking forward to having them blow another lead back home and this time the Celtics prevailing. It would crush them.
by paul7x5x on May 4, 2009 11:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
too much deja vu
Another blowout turned failed comeback against the magic. Another lethargic first half. Another quiet game 1 from Ray. Another costly late game turnover. Another game 1home loss. Stop the madness please! Maybe its time to start strong for a change?
by twinbree on May 4, 2009 11:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i agree..when they came out strong against the bulls in game 3 you seen what happened..its all about playing celtic ball and not the game of the team we are playing…personally i think we should double dwight and make him win the games his self so they dont get 3’s
by CeltsGreen9 on May 5, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amazing how reminiscent it was of the March game, isn't it, Bree?
The hole was bigger and the ensuing run bigger, but there was plenty of similarity…right down to the Ray three not rolling our way at the end…
-sw
The best of the 2008-09 Boston Celtics is still yet to come. Believe.
by Steve Weinman on May 5, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why so many 3s? ....
especially when one of your best 3 point shooters is colder than liquid nitrogen. The Celtics had more than their share of chances to pull even at the end or even take the lead, but they couldn’t take adv of the opportunities.
When we came out so flat and stayed flat for so long, we probably didn’t deserve a W.
by 33-32-00 on May 5, 2009 12:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Boston fans..we cant be to down on this game because...
We only lost by 5 after a horrific 2 Qtrs and a half after a day when the players didnt have practice or shot a ball…i dont think rondo is going to play how he did again tonight…soon as doc told him to stop with the floater and got to the line 12 times and tried (almost) dunked over howard and i think they gave us the gas…he was a little careless at the end…everyone was becuase they got ahead of themselves with the lead…rays 3 to put us down by 1 rattles out…this is a game where if perk doesnt try to take crazy jumpers and rondo doesnt miss about 3 crazy shot attempts in the 1st qtr..we would have had easily..hopefully they look at film and see what the fans saw in the first half..and finally..Marbury has been one of my favorite players since he was in college and it was nice for people to see what he really has to offer
Boston in 5 if they lock down on D for 42 minutes at least…in 6 if not…or if it goes to 7..well you know how is gonna win! I still believe in the celts until they are knocked out..bleed green baby!
by CeltsGreen9 on May 5, 2009 12:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
At least the Lakers lost
Takes the sting out of tonight’s game a little. :)
by joebianca on May 5, 2009 1:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Heart Failure
That’s what this game 1 was. Fatigue had nothing to do with it. Do you remember back in high school or college? Were you tired TWO DAYS after a tough (non-overtime) game? No, of course not. And these are conditioned pro athletes. Please, it was not that they were tired. This was a failure of heart. The team that wants it most is going to win in most cases, and for the entire first half and more we played like we didn’t give a damn one way or the other. Heart failure is what it was. And that’s the most dangerous sign we saw in this game. If it carries on, it’ll be all she wrote real quick.
Lakers losing just shows how vulnerable they are to an aggressive defense. They’re going to have a tough time with Houston, and certainly with Denver if they get that far. Whoever comes out of the East will win it all this year… so all we gotta do is put away this mediocre Magic team, and then beat the MVP and his fellow comedians. Now that will be genuinely tough.
by DRJ1 on May 5, 2009 1:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If they had no heart
They would’ve never come within three. I understand what you’re saying, they were lazy as hell in the second quarter and looked downright amateur, and blew chances in the second half, but a heartless team doesn’t cut a 28-point second half deficit to three.
And I love that your reasoning for why it couldn’t have been fatigue was that you weren’t tired two days after a game in high school. How about after 89 games in 6 months? Did you ever play that many, against the toughest competition in the world? They have to be tired. That doesn’t mean they can’t or won’t overcome it, but there’s no way they’re feeling no fatigue.
by joebianca on May 5, 2009 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
There is this misconception...
…that playing a lot of games makes you tired for the next one. The opposite is true. The more you play on a regular basis, the LESS tired you are for the next game (barring injuries, of course). That’s conditioning. And every player in the playoffs has gone through the same number of games as every other player, give or take one or two.
The worst thing about this “tired” nonsense is that it’s just an excuse. PP, and the others, have said countless times: “No excuses”. That’s good… and let’s not make excuses for them. Tired is an excuse. The fact is they lost heart. They failed to bring it for most of this game, and then tried to pull it out at the end. Nothing to be proud of, nothing to feel good about… except that they proved that the Magic are what we thought they were… a mediocre team that doesn’t know how to close out games. Bodes well for the future… but only if they do not lose heart again.
by DRJ1 on May 5, 2009 3:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The EAST is the Beast...
I Agree that whoever comes out on top of the East will be the Champs, All the C’s really need is FOCUS for 48 mins of playoff basketball, no let downs especially for 2 and a half qtrs and dig yourself a hole of 28 points will not get it done, Never let a lead slip past 10…Thats what we did in the Bulls series and we always have the opportunity to win the games when close……
"No I’m not KG. Not at all, but I’m Big Baby Glen Davis from LSU, Baton Rouge, Louisiana. I’m not the Big Ticket. I’m the Ticket Stub. Don’t count the Ticket Stub out. You might need the ticket to get in the game, but you leave with the ticket stub, because you’ll never forget this game."
by bopna on May 5, 2009 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a day for the Celtics
They earned a well deserved day -off on Sunday. Then they had a shoot around Monday morning. At night, they had an open-door, dressed practice session. They invited the Magic and practised with them for about two hours. The night ended with a 12-min screamage which the Celtics won 28-17.
by 33-32-00 on May 5, 2009 5:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This loss isn't too big.
Thing is, Rajon and Ray went 2 for 12.
Imo, that’s rare, and a loss by 5 points on 4-24 by two of our three main scorers is just not as bad as it seems.
Haven’t seen the game though. How did they do on Howard? Was it Perk all the time? Help from Davis? That it?
- Dirk 'DaarisDirk' van Boxtel
by Kiorrik on May 5, 2009 6:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Isn't the Magic blog called Third Quarter Collapse?
Just sayin’.
by nachoman on May 5, 2009 7:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They collapsed in the 4th this time
should rename the blog to Second Half Collapse
by 33-32-00 on May 5, 2009 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
.. or Second Half Complacency. Either/or.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
by erivera7 on May 5, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let’s give them plentyof reason to change it, hey?
by Thruthelookingglass on May 5, 2009 7:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm frustrated
by the “Celtics vs Magic” scenarios of the last three games (including the regular season) because it’s heartbreaking to do a comeback to ultimately lose the game. But give credit to Orlando for playing the first half with the energy and the focus you need on the road. Boston played well too late, too bad, now game 2 is a must win.
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