Doc Laughs Off Trade Rumors
Green Street " Doc laughs off trades on ‘PTI’
PTI: I’m just thinking about two summers ago when you guys had the blockbuster move that kept talk radio and our show going for weeks. Are you and Danny (Ainge) plotting anything like that this summer? Do you see your personnel needing to be shuffled in that way?
Rivers: No I don’t, but we’ve got a huge trade we’re going to announce. I’m just joking. There’s no trade coming. (Laughs) No, no we’re good. I like who we are. I think we do have to add some length to our basketball team as well, especially with Leon Powe maybe not coming back for at least til midseason or later. We’ve got to add one more big to our team. Other than that, I love our basketball team, I love our guys, and I think we’ll be in great shape next year.
Rumors are fun to track down and debate in the offseason. We're going to hear lots more of them leading up to the draft and beyond. I would say that Danny isn't doing his job if he isn't at least making calls to all the GMs in the league. Sometimes those conversations are going to be leaked (accurate or not) and sometimes people are going to flat out make stuff up to get attention.
I don't have to tell you to take anything you hear with a grain of salt. I don't mind reminding you that the most likely outcome of this offseason is that our starters will all remain in place and our bench will somehow be upgraded (at least on paper). Of course it is hard to fill up a summer stating the obvious, so you can count on any number of rumors to be discussed at length.
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I don’t know how information Ainge is/will be sharing with Doc. How much influence does Doc have in personnel matters? If all our starters return and stay healthy, we will still be playing at this time next year
by 33-32-00 on Jun 12, 2009 7:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
of course
Doc could be lying through his teeth or he could be totally out of the loop – so you have to take everything with a grain of salt
that said, I believe what he said more than I believe some of the rumors around the web
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
by Jeff Clark on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Looks like the team is signing Powe...
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
by Roy_Hobbs on Jun 12, 2009 7:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The failure to mention the glaring need for a backup 3 with length stands out like a sore thumb in those comments.
No help for Pierce=trouble in the playoffs.
by CoachBo on Jun 12, 2009 7:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bill Walker
Sure, a long 3 would be nice. However, backup 5 is the bigger issue. I expect most of our MLE dollars going towards that end, with the rest being funneled to either bringing Baby or Marbury back…
With Bill Walker in the fold, I expect him to be given a shot in training camp as our backup 3. He’ll need to work on his 3 this summer, and his ball handling, but I think the Cs brass like him enough to give him a chance. If he fails miserably, you’ve got the horde of expiring contracts (TA/Scal/House/Giddens) to dangle to some team around the mid-season mark, or you wait until a suitable 3 man is bought out after the trading deadline…
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Jun 12, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
back ups to KG and Perk are the bigger issue if for no other reason than a pure lack of bodies on the roster that can play center
by slamtheking on Jun 12, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
backup 3
Doc used to mention the need for a backup 3. Maybe he didn’t mention it in this interview because they’ve got the solution to that problem already lined up.
by miser71 on Jun 12, 2009 7:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
or maybe he’s just more confident in the ability to get a big man and doesn’t want to paint Ainge as a failure if he doesn’t get all the items on his wish list
who knows?
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
by Jeff Clark on Jun 12, 2009 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I don’t want to read too much into Doc’s comments, though. PTI is a “light” program, so Doc possibly didn’t want to get into all of the details. At least twice this off-season, he’s identified the need for a backup 3, so let’s hope nothing has changed.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
by Roy_Hobbs on Jun 12, 2009 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup
that’s how I read it
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
by Jeff Clark on Jun 12, 2009 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Back up 3
Any chance at all we can snag Ariza? He would be PERFECT!
by celty86 on Jun 12, 2009 8:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He hates the Celtics
"I was playing in the streets one time and my friend broke off a leg to a chair and threw it at another guy through his heart and he died." - Ron Artest, QB's finest
by endverse on Jun 12, 2009 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, he's probably too expensive...
We need to fill multiple holes with our available money
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
by Roy_Hobbs on Jun 12, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
puhh
Hi everyone,
I hope somebody like my Fanshot :-)
For me this are good news, but I hope that Doc Rivers and co get a good backup for K.G. – I’m not surprise by the lost of the celtics against the magic – they were tired at the end and without their main leader they should be happy to come this far ^_°
I asked god and he said: L.A. will lose again next year!! ^_°
by greenmech on Jun 12, 2009 8:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Four Steps to a Terrible Offseason
1. I love our team. 2. It would be nice to add a big, but otherwise we are ok. 3. I look at bringing back BBD, Powe, and Eddie House as making three big free-agent additions. 4. We’ll look to add a big sometime during the regular season.
Looks like we are 2/4 of the way to earning ourselves another “F” this offseason. A couple of other things to keep in mind, one positive, one negative.
First the positive. I believe Wyc and Danny really don’t like the Lakers and really want to win another title before the KG Era ends. They understand the whole title race thing. I believe they hope to be able to make a couple of major acquisitions to stay ahead of the purple (this, of course, belies my earlier point).
Now for the negative. I’m no doctor, but does anyone else find it medically (not politically) puzzling that the bone spur/bone chip whatever is now declared the cause of KG’s earlier knee problem? How exactly does rest heal a bone spur/chip? It’s not like the chip/spur will round itself out and become less sharp on its own, right? Anyway, my dark suspicion is that the “KG is all right after all” talk is to sell tickets, and then next august or sept, we will hear, ooops, I guess he isn’t all right and he’ll miss training camp, then the first month, then the whole season.
I’m not down on this team, at least not totally yet. But danny and wyc really need to step up to the plate and make something happen. We can’t bank on a mid-season acquisition. We need to do something this summer.
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by Black Jack Pershing on Jun 12, 2009 8:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Chill out, Black Jack. No reason to be down on anything
KG had tendonitis aggravated by a bone spur. MAYBE rest calms it down enough so that we can get 1,2,3,6 games out of him in playoffs, but there’s no knowing whether KG wakes up sore or not. So you wait on the surgery but his knee doesn’t calm down. No conspiracy theory. I have already paid for next year’s season tickets, not because I’m a sucker, but because they can charge it and we have to pay it. Except for the ending, this season was as much fun as the last one and if KG was healthy, then Ray and Paul are less gassed, the bench has Big Baby, Leon and Scal to choose from and not Scal and Mikki and we’re playing the Lakers.
And as long as they don’t do anything stupid this summer, like Rasheed Wallace 2yrs/$10 mil per yr, or outbid the NBA for Trevor Ariza (this year’s James Posey) I’ll get my money’s worth next year.
How about taking Doc at his word. We need a backup 5 with muscle. Mikki isn’t it even with another year to learn the system.
KG and Ray don’t worry me health-wise as much as Pierce. Pierce has been an injury-free freak for his career and if you believe that it all evens out in the end, then he’s due. We need to see in summer league if Walker or Giddens can project into those backup minutes and if not I trust the guys I’ve given next year’s money to will figure it out.
by Wildblu1 on Jun 12, 2009 9:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Neither Walker nor Giddens is a SF
Giddens measured just 6’ 4.75 IN SHOES at last year’s pre-draft combine:
Walker is no taller, or if he is, it’s all Afro.
We need a backup big, a backup SF (tall enough to play 6’10" guys) and a backup PG. Any erosion of that concept is troubling.
"People don't understand, if you can't live the rest of your life off one year in the NBA, you can't live off 21." -- Keon Clark
by Eeyore III on Jun 12, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Walker
plays a bit like a SF, but yeah, he might be a bit undersized for the position
I think of him more as a Tony Allen type with a better head on his shoulders
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
by Jeff Clark on Jun 12, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't a back-up SF like that
Be starting somewhere and unlikely to take less money to sit on the bench?
by LooseCannon on Jun 12, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
from now on
if doc or ainge say anything, i’ll believe the opposite
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
by remembering9ergods on Jun 12, 2009 9:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The team doesn't need another "blockbuster trade"
The starting roster is perfect, and the entire roster will be once they get an at least adequate bench
"I was playing in the streets one time and my friend broke off a leg to a chair and threw it at another guy through his heart and he died." - Ron Artest, QB's finest
by endverse on Jun 12, 2009 9:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if doc is so happy with his team, why didn’t he play walker, giddens and gabe?
by nazzbo on Jun 12, 2009 9:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
C'Mon Nazzbo!
You’re a regular on this blog. Doc doesn’t play young guys. He’ll tell you he likes them and he means it but he just is a vet-oriented coach. And his results are hard to argue with. I’m with the blogger crowd that says we have to find out what these guys got and real PT is the test of that. But It happens in little steps with Doc and summer league will be another baby step. I do think he’s lost enthusiasm for Pruitt but is too nice a human being to be public about it. Giddens I’m not sure, but I think Walker has potential at the 3 spot.
by Wildblu1 on Jun 12, 2009 10:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ariza
Roy,
He may be too expensive but if the plan is to cheaply fill in the holes on the bench it sounds a lot like lat summer. And that ain’t good. Plus he may hate the C’s but money talks and players walk.
by celty86 on Jun 12, 2009 10:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree. This is not a time to go bargain basement shopping. I think we are going to need to trade some of the expirings on the bench to fully upgrade it.
As for Ariza, unfortunately, he probably isn’t realistic at this point. Every three he makes is upping his tag.
by Berkcelt on Jun 12, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
… we have the same amount of money, no matter who we sign. We can use the MLE, the LLE, minimum contracts, and Bird rights on BBD and Powe.
Realistically, we may have to split the MLE between two players. That doesn’t necessarily mean “cheap”, since we’d be spending the exact same amount of money as if we signed one player for the MLE. However, we’d be getting two quality players (probably older) rather than one.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
by Roy_Hobbs on Jun 12, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Early-Bird rights on BBD, btw.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
by Roy_Hobbs on Jun 12, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im glad Doc sees the great need for another big, but why wouldnt he mention the incredible importance for an anthletic swingman to come off the bench?
by DeStefano2004 on Jun 12, 2009 11:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Too Much
Everybody is reading into Doc’s appearence on PTI TOO MUCH. It was a token interview with token answeres. Did you want him to go on televison and say yeah we need a whole new bench oh and umm we have a deal in place for Ray Allen? Common he knows what they need just like we all do it’s up to management to pull it off
by Petro03 on Jun 12, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's what Doc had to say about the SF position last month...
Courtesy of WEEI, via CelticsHub.com:
"No. 1, the one spot no one talked about all year, was the small forward spot. We need a small forward who can defend, who can make shots and give Paul (Pierce) a blow. I thought Paul, all year, had to guard the best guys all game.
Whenever we took him out, we went small. We put Ray Allen in at small forward, which is a tough matchup. You could see it in the Orlando series. You were almost scared to take Paul off the floor because when you did, Ray Allen was now guarding the Turkoglus or the Rashard Lewises of the world. They went straight to the post, just like every other team did."
In articles cited on this blog, Doc has mentioned small forward at least twice. I think he understands the need to back up Paul.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
by Roy_Hobbs on Jun 12, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t expect the team to make a blockbuster trade.
If they do manage to pull one off, I think it’ll be based around Ray Allen and his expiring deal. I don’t think any of the other starters will be involved.
by Who on Jun 12, 2009 12:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
just the old adage “you get what you pay for”. The significant available players may be able to hold out for the full MLE and the question is do we pay that rate for that kind of bench value or do we dice and slice it up for 2 or 3 guys with the risk of not getting the kind of bench players who can make a difference. just saying….
by celty86 on Jun 12, 2009 1:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

























