Not the worst trade but completely realistic.

We’d have three shoot-first point guards.

Only if you could find a staring PG via Free Agency. Andre Miller?

Unless that 14th pick gets us Flynn or Drue Holiday no thanks.

And in all reality no thanks anyway.

If they did this they must really REALLY like one of the PGs in the draft. That is the only way I see this being done. I won’t like it though.

Doc must have loved what he saw out of him, that’s why he’s still shooting around in Waltham. (Yes, I’m kidding)

that trade doesn’t seem that bad hypothetically, what if we sign AI, I know alot of people don’t like his attitude however Marbury’s attitude hasn’t really been much of an issue, AI could change too. Our front line would be ridiculous with KG,Amare & Perk, that’s probably the best front line in the NBA since Bird, Chief & McHale. AI,Star,House & Barbosa as guards along with PP, we have nasty bigs KG,Amare,Perk,BBD,Powe. Then we can trade the 14th pick, TA,Scals & Pruitt and get Marion or McDyess now that would be something.

I think Rondo is untradeable!

Give Phoenix BBD instead of Rondo…and we have a deal!

Bad trade. Neither Amare or KG is a SF. Barbossa is not a pg.

Player for player, it isn’t the worst thing I have ever seen. But when one considers the rosters (especially the Celts), then this makes no sense at all.

If KG and Pierce were both 28, maybe you consider doing this. However, this puts the roster all sorts of out of whack next year. KG would have to slide to the 3 and PP to the 2. While I think each can play limited minutes there, I don’t think it works long term. I don’t think the roster gels, and if it does, I think it may take a season or more. We don’t have that type of time with PP and KG getting older.

Don’t do it.

rondo is essentially untouchable, even if his performance against orlando was subpar

the celtics got rondo for not much and his value couldn’t be much higher than what it is right now. he is tradeable much like big al. is a sign and trade possible with rondo? how much salary would he command? the c’s need to start thinking about replacing KG… the suns need to replace nash… we don’t necessarily need to get a PG back as Marbury can be signed cheaply right now.

pierce, rondo, future 1st rounders to the clippers for baron davis, marcus camby, and the #1 pick.

just a silly trade…and the #14 pick this year…has little to no value…not to mention that the chance that Amare can play an entire year is lower than Yao’s

Stoudemire coming from the bench. I doubt it!

The deal makes no sense. The C’s trade a starting backcourt from a championship team for a questionable-health, offense-only PF and a shooting guard posing as a point guard?

Why?
As mentioned many times above, this throws the team’s skillsets way out of balance.

The picks that are worth something in this draft are 1,2 and 3. After that, there are 30-40 players who are roughly equal.

In fact, pick 31 is probably worth almost as much as a late lottery pick this year.

Why would Phoenix even do this? I think most people agree that it doesn’t make sense for our team, but how does having Nash AND Rondo help Phoenix?

rondo is 23 and is the future and he knows how to run a team and plays defense. i don’t think mormons do a lot of heavy drinking.

The only reason I would pause on the trade is Amare is not signed past next year. If Amare was signed long term, I’d do this trade in a heartbeat and wouldn’t give it a second thought. PG’s are almost entirely worthless when determining champions. I mean Derek Fisher and Rafer Alston are the starting PG’s for the two teams in the finals.

If I was 100% sure Amare would re-sign, I’d do the trade and find some veteran capable PG in free agency. I’d start KG and Amare and bring Perkins off the bench (which is frankly where he could have the most value).

(says his facebook page)

That trade sounds nuts. Maybe there is a 3rd team. Otherwise, it is nuts.

Amare’s got Jordan’s braintype. Ainge has loved him since day one. The team is obviously scared to give Rondo a ton of money, because he has some weird character issues. The only thing sketchy here is that Garnett and Amare play the same position.

I would assume if this were true that Ainge either thought Marbury would come back or that he thinks Barbosa can start at pg.

Considering Ainge’s connections with the Suns, a multi-player trade with them is very possible. But is Amare a good fit for the Celtics? If Rondo goes, who plays point for us? PP can bring the ball up, but he is not a PG. Maybe somehow we can get New Orleans in the mix and send us CP3.

This isn’t a bad draft for pg’s: Rubio, Evans, Mills, Lawson, Flynn, Collison, Maynor, Teague… You are not in bad shape with Barbosa starting at the point…that’s all I’m saying

The big issue is clearly Amare and KG playing the same position.

I thought Doc’s comment on rondo “always having trouble in the playoffs” was huge. He averaged a triple double, but orlando literally didn’t cover him, and he couldn’t do anything. he was the hidden reason why we lost to orlando…they could double pierce and “box and 1” ray with no repercussions. having dwight howard to anchor helps too…

I live in Phoenix, so I get out to a lot of Suns games (even though I’m a Celtics fan) and I’m telling you Barbosa could not play the point. He is at his best when he is feeding off Steve Nash, and for some dumb a** reason the Suns never played the two together until Gentry came in.

This trade is pointless, unless it’s something along the lines of Ray for Amare. The Celtics should NOT even consider getting rid of Rondo. Nash kills the big guys on defense because he can’t defend the other teams’ points for shit. How many points have got season highs or career highs against Nash?

Not a good rumor at all. I was listening to KTAR on the way home from work and I wanted to scream. They did say both teams have shown interest but not in serious talks, yet.

This sounds like a deal that could heat up. Amare as the big man of the future of the C’s, and playing him alongside Garnett would be a crazy frontcourt. I personally like Barbosa, he is an aggressive scorer and also shows some fiestiness on the defensive end.

Barbosa
House (Anthony Parker)
Pierce
Garnett
Stoudemire

Plus we get the 14th. I’d go with Johnny Flynn at that point, who is a really solid pg

Scal + TA + Walker for Amare OR BBD + TA for Amare

If PHO buys out Ray and he resigns with us then I would be interested…

Maybe Rondo isn’t perfect, but neither is Amare. For starters, he has had microfracture surgery. He also plays very little defense, and when he’s not scoring, he sulks.

Plus, as I said above, the 14th pick really isn’t worth squat.

We know of at least three teams in deep financial do do: New Orleans, Memphis and Charlotte. These teams will be looking to dump salary, and when a rumor emerges involving Ray Allen going to one of those teams, I’ll give it some credibility. Charlotte has the most to offer, IMHO, unless NO is willing to part with Chris Paul.

…and it makes PERFECT sense. I would pull the trigger on that in a second.

could turn into Ty Lawson…

Barbosa replaces Ray’s production at a significant discount and he is much younger. Our big man ROTATION is Perkins, Garnett and Stoudemire – 32 minutes each – and we can find a number of solid pointguards for around the MLE (Kidd, Jack, Felton). This team reminds me a lot of the 1986 Celtics

Kidd – DJ
Barbosa – Ainge
Pierce – Bird
Stoudemire – McHale
Perkins – Parish

Walton – Garnett
Wedman – Anthony Parker @ LLE?
Sichting – House

Pruitt, Giddens, Walker, Allen, Scalabrine, Powe

I don’t think this deal Happens unless Ainge has something else up his sleeve for a quality PG(A.MIller ,J-Kidd maybe)and Im not sure that would Marbury. Im not for giving up Rondo personaly I think he has certain skills that we will not be able to replace and he is getting better. But if it were to happen there is no reason why Amare wouldn’t be able to play alongside KG. Actually they would compliment each other well.KG=Defense,Passing,Rebounding,Mid-Range jumpshot. Amare=lowpost scorer one of the best around the basket. They are both fierce competitors and throw perk in the mix with his defense and shotblocking ability you have trio of bigmen which nobody in the league can compete with. Also KG can get the rest he needs to be fresh for the playoffs. Again I cant give up Rondo but this would be something I would at least consider.

The ability to throw out a 3-man frontcourt lineup of KG, Amare, and Perk, and transition to a very workable Amare/Perk tandem down the road (Stoudamire isn’t leaving a situation like the C’s, with KG around as a mentor and the ability to outbid the open market) is appealing enough to roll the dice at PG.

Barbosa takes over for Ray at SG (with Allen potentially returning down the road as a bench shooter?) and the PG spot can be filled via FA (Kidd, Dre Miller, Bibby, Jack, ) and with #14 (at least one or two from the Flynn/Jennings/Maynor/Lawson tier will be there).

If the C’s could land Kidd (who I despise as a person, but would be a perfect fit) or Dre Miller at the point, and add a cheap veteran SF, and that team destroys the league nest year (heck, even Stephon/House is probably enough to win the title with that roster at the other four positions…)

It’s just silly.

Rondo is clearly the PG of the future for the Celtics on a team that’s built around him and Perk. I know Perk doesn’t fit the mold of a marquee player to build around, but he’s a reasonably priced defensive force, and with him and Rondo the Cs have the ultimately important big man and PG spots covered with reliable players and build around.

The window of the Big 3 is closing in about 2 years, when Rondo and Perk will still be what? 26-27? Danny is NOT going to sacrifice our future so that we have NOTHING left at that time.

Rondo is becoming -and this isn’t unconfirmed potential, but clear for any to see- one of the best PGs in the game. His defense and his rebounding added to the rest of his game make him a special type player, and we’re keeping him for a while.

Not to mention that Amare isn’t a true center, and therefore plays KGs spot. This rumor is retarded, and doesn’t make any sense. We’re not giving up our franchise PG and downgrading on Center defense (defense being the hallmark of our championship team) for a guy we don’t have a spot for and who doesn’t really fit our system.

THINK, MAN!

the biggest reason not to do this trade is the health of stoudemire. He is not the player he was few years ago and he is another injury away from being done. Didn’t he haev microfracture surgery plus doesn’t he have a detached retina? I wouldn’t want to trade 2 durable healthy players for 2 questions marks in stoudemire and barbossa. the 14th pick in this draft means nothing.

thinks barbossa can replace ray allen as a shooter. Are you on crack?? Ray’s problem ( and Paul’s) at the end of the playoffs is that orlando and chicago could afford to double team them since we had no one else to hit a shot. What we need is another scorer- an Okur or Gordon or boozer. WHy wouldn’t Boozer be a good addition? I can’t see trading a potential perrenial all star in rondo for an injured PF and a brazilian gunner and a 14thround pick that won’t be anything

Love to have him but he’s going to ask for 12-15mil a year wearing green is unrealistic

We need a shooter/scorer be it big or small. When Rondo is left to shoot from the perimeter as he was against the Magic we were hurting. Get Rondo in the gym this summer, get another shooter and get a defensive swingman (4 – 5) up front and we’ll be ok. But if this deal has any legs, I don’t agree that the #14 pick is useless as I have heard mentioned. No pick is totally worthless.

into a 3way.

Barbosa
Caron
Pierce
KG (Amare if unhealthy)
Perk

Ainge may have no intention of trading Ray, but there are going to be like 20 big names floated this summer and they may be one-upping each other…

…this may cause Ainge to actually pull the trigger on a deal?

Could we get Bosh?

you people are losing your minds with these trade ideas. 1) ainge already said he isn’t messing with the core. 2) you don’t just give up the greatest shooter in the history of the league (who oh by the way is a 100% class act) 3) this team has a kind of chemistry that comes along once every 15 years. don’t lose your heads people, this isn’t NBA live 09

I see 4 problems with this trade.

1. Amare has to be willing to play backup PF and Center – he’s not a SF. There are actually enough minutes figuring KG and Perk both around 30 mins that leaves 32-36 mins for Amare. But will he accept not starting. I doubt it.

2. Who plays PG – Barbosa? Paahhhleeeeaaaasssseeee!

3. Who play SG? Eddie House and TA. Paahhhleeeeaaaasssseeee!

4. Who backsup PP? TA and Scal. Paahhhleeeeaaaasssseeee! We’ve seen that act before and it was ugly!!!!

Now if we don’t give up Rajon and someone else is included either Scal, TA then I might make the deal. Heck, Phoenix is just looking to dump salary so they might be willing to take another expiring contract. .

One other concern is Amare’s health. Someone else mentionsed that he’s had 2 major injuries and there is cause for concern that these injuries will return and render him unfit to play down the road.

you’all must be smoking some strong crap with those rumors

If they want Perk so bad, would they take him instead of Rondo??