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A Few Assorted League Rumors

NBADraft.net has an updated Draft Buzz article.  Here are a few that might be of interest to C's fans.

The Portland Trailblazers would like to dump Travis Outlaw ($4 million next year) and their pick and clear some additional space to make a run at Hedo Turkoglu.

The Celtics are over the cap, so they can't help Portland dump salary this season.  However, Ainge has long been rumored to be a fan of Outlaw and there's always a 3 team deal option.

Expect a flurry of action on draft night, which has become the norm in recent years, and a number of first and second rounders to be sold and traded.

Teams with multiple picks such as Sacramento (23), Oklahoma City (25) and Chicago (26) are all looking to sell their picks according to sources. While three other teams would like to buy picks late in the first round: San Antonio, Detroit and Houston.

Ainge has been a buyer before and if he sees someone he likes, I'm sure he'll make a move (he has open roster spots to play with).  This draft is about as up in the air as any I've seen.  That might make teams more willing to give up picks for cheap (to save money).

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We need to make this happen!

Travis Outlaw would make such a huge difference off the bench for this team. He is that long athletic backup SF that we need to make a serious run. Get it done Danny!

by EJPLAYA on Jun 20, 2009 9:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

agreed

i would love to pick up Outlaw. He can do so much for the team.

by CelticWes34 on Jun 20, 2009 9:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Buying Picks

I enjoy the draft and the various moves that teams make. The draft is a time and place where the future is bright. But realistically, given Doc’s views, does anyone really expect anyone we draft (if we draft) to do anything on this team?

Regarding Outlaw, I’ve had him on Fantasy teams the last few years. Good scorer, but typically doesn’t fill up a stat sheet. He’s the kind of player that looks so promising. He’ll have an incredible game, but then most of the time he does not do much more than play one on five basketball, albeit in incredible manner.

by amenhotep04 on Jun 20, 2009 9:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

thats the one thing i cant stand about doc, he doesnt play rookies. he could have lebron as a rookie and he’d only see garbage time

im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!

by remembering9ergods on Jun 20, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it would be ironic

because the Celtics put the Blazers in the position to need to shed salary by proving Darius Miles can still play

"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V

by Jeff Clark on Jun 20, 2009 9:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No he couldn't, but he tried :)

But well, we fleeced Ainge for Roy. And he used assets from that deal for KG. So in the end we both fleeced the Wolves. Nice.

I’ll repeat the same as what I posted on Third Quarter Collapse: It’s “plausible fiction”

These 6 days are my most crazed: trade rumors galore, 87 pct nonsensical, 9 pct plausible fiction, 3 pct true but dead, 1 pct in play. – Ric Bucher

by Norsktroll on Jun 21, 2009 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Miles played until he hit the magic number to put his salary back on the books

then bam, he’s riding pine for the rest of the season. 100% strategic move by the Cs and Grizz. Transparent as can be, but still legal.

I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich

by hobobob on Jun 22, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Portland Trailblazers would like to dump Travis Outlaw ($4 million next year) and their pick and clear some additional space to make a run at Hedo Turkoglu.

oh man, having outlaw as pierces backup would be awesome. ive been hoping for us to trade for sergio rodriguez too so maybe we can get both and kill two birds with one stone.

im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!

by remembering9ergods on Jun 20, 2009 10:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

here's what i wanted to see!
For all the Portland Trail Blazers’ usual misdirection plays about moving up in the draft, few say they’re sincere in climbing into the lottery. Ultimately, it’s thought that the Blazers are trying to clear cap space – perhaps as much as $10 million – and multiple league executives think Portland is determined to sign Orlando Magic free agent Hedo Turkoglu(notes).

For now, the Blazers are trying to find a taker for point guard Sergio Rodriguez(notes) and his $1.6 million salary. They’re interested in Dallas Mavericks free agent Jason Kidd(notes), too. The Mavericks want to keep Kidd, who will probably ask for $8 million a season.


outlaw and rodriquez would solve two of our problem spots on the bench and they only cost $5.6m combined. all we need is a third team looking for expiring contracts and can take on salary. memphis?

im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!

by remembering9ergods on Jun 20, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

these are all smoke screeens

KP is not going to do something that everyone predicts, we all should know this by now. He is a damn Draft genius. No way he sign Hedo or Kidd with their RIDICULOUS over priced contracts. I am willing to bet he has something much better up his sleeves.

In KP we trust!

Greg Oden = Robert Parish - The only other rookie with more than 500 points, 400 rebounds, and 65 blocks in under 1400 minutes played. Since 1946

by FiveOhThree-RipCity!! on Jun 21, 2009 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TA and Pruitt to OKC, Outlaw to Boston

It seems like they could easily swing things with the GM with local connections Presti in OKC. If the Cs send TA, Pruitt, $2M and maybe a future second rounder to OKC and Portland kicks in a future pick as well (Portland could throw in their first rounder this year, but not sure OKC wants a third first rounder in this draft), then OKC ends up with TA, Pruitt, a couple of future picks and cash all for brokering Outlaw to Boston. Seems like a pretty good deal for them that would likely cost them no more than minimum type outlay for TA and Pruitt by the time the Cs cash is counted against that. If the Cs throw $3M into the deal (I believe the max they can), then TA and Pruitt are nearly free for the year.

by hankfinkel on Jun 20, 2009 11:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not a bad fit for the team….this way we have a back up for pierce that can play right now …and Walker and Giddens can fight it out at 2 guard. Get McDyess ….buy a first round draft choice and we’re good to go.

hankfinkel who in there right mind would want that deal. T.Allen is only good if he plays 20 minutes a game…for them he won’t even hit the floor….I don’t beleive they think Pruitt can play because Doc would play him.

by tyquinton on Jun 20, 2009 11:20 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Outlaw has the build, but maybe not the defense the Celtics need.

Before anyone gets too excited about Outlaw, they might want to consider the following article entitled "Evolution of an Outlaw: A Look at Travis Outlaw’s Past, Present and Future. " The article was written last summer, and is generally positive. But it does give you pause to wonder if Outlaw has the wherewithall to be a long, young permieter defender ala James Posey. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/44480-evolution-of-an-outlaw-a-look-at-travis-outlaws-past-present-and-future

by no kidding on Jun 20, 2009 11:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

if they got...

ray allen and steph marbury to play ‘some’ defense, then why can’t outlaw?

by jaimsitecom on Jun 20, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

after last year

id be happy with a bench that can score and just hold onto a lead

im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!

by remembering9ergods on Jun 20, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know Outlaw looks right. But what is he?

First off, did they really get Marbury to play defense? I didn’t see him do anything all that compelling, though I was hoping to. Ray Allen’s another matter. He’s pretty much all about winning, so he clearly made the effort.

As for Outlaw, I don’t know what he’s about. He hasn’t established himself as either a defensive or offensive star, or a guy with a high basketball I.Q. He’s just a lot of potential. Who knows? Maybe it’s only that he hasn’t found his role yet. Or maybe he never will. He just makes me a tad nervous.

by no kidding on Jun 20, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't buy it

His trade value is too high to simply dump him for cap space. Portland might trade him and others to land a veteran 3, but I don’t see how they’re going to just give him away.

It was reported weeks ago that Portland will send Sergio Rodriguez to the Knicks, who have a large enough trade exception not to have to send payroll back to Portland. So the Blazers will clear $1.8 mil off of next year’s books with that deal.

by Lucky17 on Jun 20, 2009 3:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is the more likely scenario

If Portland wanted to clear cap space and would let Outlaw walk for salary cap then they would have declined his team option that they already picked up. IMO the Turkoglu rumors did not come from Portland. The Blazers already have 2 SFs that they are high on. If you can figure out how to make a 3 team trade that gets Portland a compliment to Roy at the point and lands you Travis Outlaw then that would work, but upgrading at the 3 is probably not the best use of Portland’s assets due to the fact that they have good options at the 3 and it is a position that is not of great importance in the Blazers schemes, especially on offense.

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Jun 20, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What the...

Where are all the other BEdgers?

All I have to say about the post is that the Blazers have both Outlaw and Sergio under contract for next year (and beyond), and it will be more expensive than a simple salary dump. The Blazers have Paul Allen writing the checks, and I doubt the Blazers will dump salary for the vague possibility of signing Turkey Glue.

I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.

by haildablazer on Jun 20, 2009 11:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we're here haildablazer

we’re just trying to figure out if this is even worth responding to cause it makes NO SENSE. as mentioned if it was to dump salary then outlaw would have had option declined. plus we cant just give players to another team without receiving something in return and in none of the scenarios listed does portland get anything back from boston, but just wait theyll say we want marbury and scalabrine

by HurricaneDayne on Jun 21, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know, but I was hoping for at least a triple Timbo, or... something

I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.

by haildablazer on Jun 21, 2009 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also if they were giving talent out I doubt they would give it to a contender like Boston

It is true the price is a lot higher then Salary dump.

"Knowledge will get you from A to B. Creativity will get you anywhere." Einstein

by Garden of ODEN on Jun 20, 2009 11:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

here is a brief scouting report on outlaw froma blazer fan

1. He is clutch. In the fourth, he continues to make big shot after big shot. He hit game winners against Atlanta and memphis last year and this year has has made huge shots down the stretch this year.

2. He can get his shot off anyone. He gets really high and has a high release point on his shot. When he is on, look out.

3. He can play the 4.

4. He is bad on D

5. He has poor shot selection

I have a hard time beliving Portland will just dump him for cap space. if they wanted to do that, they could just cut him-as his contract for next year is not garunteed. THey could get value for him. After all, he was a top-5 Sixth Man candiate last year

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bayless leaves over my dead body
sign mike bibby

by thomasikehara on Jun 20, 2009 11:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This makes no sense. Outlaw has a nonguaranteed deal, meaning Portland can cut him at any time before July for cap space. If Pritchard really wanted the space, he could just cut Outlaw outright and have it immediately.

ETO =/= nonguaranteed.

proud hinrichsheeple

by Cablinasian on Jun 20, 2009 11:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I thought the Blazers just picked up that option?

Or is that not official till July either?

I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.

by haildablazer on Jun 21, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Portland wanted cap space they would declined their team option on Outlaw’s contract and/or the team option on Blake’s contract.

They have not done that. This rumour sounds like paper talk to me.

by Who on Jun 20, 2009 11:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Portland should absolutely make a run at Hedo Turkoglu though. He’s exactly what they need to become a major contender in the West.

And Outlaw is unimportant. He’s the fifth best wing on their team behind Roy, Webster, Batum and Rudy.

by Who on Jun 20, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Outlaw is actually much better playing at the PF

I dont see why his perfect for Portland. If given the option I want the ball in Roy’s hands not Hedo, and it seems that Hedo is really effective in high pick and rolls, which is not the bread and butter of portland’s offense.

I am guessing he just gets re-signed in Orlando where he has really maximized his strengths.

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Jun 20, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Portland need a second player who can score and create for others at a high level. Perhaps Greg Oden can become that player, but there’s no reason to take that risk, especially when there’s so much other talent on the wings. Hedo Turkoglu fills that vacuum.

Portland are not a legitimate contender with Aldridge as their second scorer, and no legitimate third scorer in sight. They need a scorer, Hedo can be that player for them.

by Who on Jun 20, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lamarcus Aldridge is only going to get better

And they already have a ridiculous logjam at the 3, which would only be made worse by Hedo. But I am also one who thinks he will become the next Wally Sczerbiak. If only they could grab Devin Harris somehow. Oh well.

by Samsara on Jun 20, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A scoring point guard would work well for Portland.

I’d like to see Portland sign Ben Gordon and convert him into a point guard. With Brandon Roy controlling the ball as much as he does, the team doesn’t need a prototypical point guard and I think Gordon could be quite successful in that role.

I would prefer Hedo though.

by Who on Jun 20, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hedo will not work

on our roster, we only have the 1 and the 3 as possible open positions. Roy is the only backcourt player and while he can be a good defender, much of his energy is used on offense.

So while I do agree that we need another shot creator on the floor, we also need a defensive stopper. Now with the new handcheck rules small quick PGs that can get into the lane are all the rage and Bayless did average almost 30 in sumer league, netting MVP also and yes I will be the first to tell you that SL is not that impressive, but that paired with the almost 20ppg he scored in college @ Arizona vs the toughest overall and defensive schedule in the NCAA that year says that at the very least there is a wealth of talent there and he knows how to put the ball in the hole. I am very high on him but still feel that he needs about a year or so to learn the ropes from a vet, hopefully Kidd, before getting the keys to a 54 win team.

Also Nicholas Batum, stepped in as a foreign rook and quickly became our best perimeter defender and was tasked with guarding Kobe, Lebron and even spent some time on Parker and DWill.

Spending $10m on Hedo and doing nothing to upgrade our PG position is not a good use of our assets. Besides statistically Hedo is not phenomenal, but the one thing that makes him so valuable is that he is clutch. However with Roy on this team, I would want the ball in his hands down 1 with 10 secs to go no question. As some would say he would become another Wally Szcerbiak.

I do agree with you about the scoring PG but we need a long, quick and strong SF to guard the elite wings in the league and a 6’ PG can only D up 25% of the league effectively, while the 6’8 SF can guard 75% of the league.

Collegiate stats:

NCAA Arizona:
Jerryd Bayless: 19.7pts, 4.0 asts, 3to

NAIA Wisconsin-Stevens Point
Terry Porter: 19.7pts, 4.3 asts, 2.33to

by SpyderRyder on Jun 21, 2009 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I rate Turkoglu as a better defender than Batum. I think he’d be the best perimeter defender on the Blazers next season — which is a major problem in itself.

I regard Batum as slightly above average defender, and he should become better than Hedo on that end of the floor in the next year or two … but I do not think he’s better than Hedo currently.

by Who on Jun 21, 2009 4:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thinking that Hedo is a better

defender than Batum is straight wrong. Batum was put on kobe when we played the lakers and generally was put on the best opposing wing. Even on the Magic Pietrus was the one tasked with the best opposing wing players, not Hedo. So you need to watch more film of Batum if you think that Hedo is a better defender than him.

As for Bayless coming out of college he was ranked close to Mayo, Gordon, Westbrook and Rose. The only difference is that those players landed on teams that at the beginning of the year had nothing to play for so if their teams went on a 5 game losing streak, it was expected. If the Blazers would of went on a 5 game losing streak we would be calling for heads but that provides those other players the ability to play through their mistakes leading to 4 out of the top 5 slots in the ROY voting.

When ever Bayless was given time to play he produced. In only 10 games did he play more than 20 mins and in those games this is what he averaged

26.3min
46.8%fg
18%3pt
11pts
3.5ast
1.4to
2.1reb

Pretty good for a rookie with such limited minutes. The 3pt% was a bit down but he was a 40% shooter in college so it will come as every time he would be open at the 3pt line he had no confidence in his shot. You could see the wheels turning in his head and not flowing in the game.

So if you think that Mayo, Westbrook, Gordon or Rose would be a savior on this team, you have to think that Bayless would be just as good.

As for the cap space we have, I have been promoting getting Kidd as he has been very effective as a spot up 3pt shooter for Dal., sitting at the line waiting for kickouts from Howard and DIrk to open the court, much like Blake does for us and he has converted 42% since he has been with the Mavs.

He probably has another 2-3 years left in the tank and with Bayless we could run a platoon much like we did 2 years ago with Blake 29 mpg and Jack 27mpg. Kidd/Bayless is unquestionably more talented than those 2 and it would work out perfect.

Lower Kidds mins to extend his usefulness even more and give Bayless more mins to advance his development. Win-win.

Collegiate stats:

NCAA Arizona:
Jerryd Bayless: 19.7pts, 4.0 asts, 3to

NAIA Wisconsin-Stevens Point
Terry Porter: 19.7pts, 4.3 asts, 2.33to

by SpyderRyder on Jun 21, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like the idea of Portland signing Jason Kidd. I think that would be a very good signing.

I look at Jerryd Bayless’ potential as a Ben Gordon type of player. Except more of a slasher, versus the shooter that Gordon is.

Why take chance on a guy who can become the next Ben Gordon when you can get the Ben Gordon right now? Unless, of course, you think Bayless has even more potential than that.

by Who on Jun 21, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

With

Blake .427, or Kidd .419, Rudy .399, Batum .369, Outlaw and Roy .377 we do not need more outside shooting. What we lack is penetration, and some have started to call Blake soft-porn=no penetration. He has little finishing ability, a fledgling mid range game, but as shown by his 3pt % has that part down.

There was talk pre deadline about Gordon in some Blazer fan circles but was largely turned down. Some thought he would work well with Roy, much like Bayless should, but others still want a PG who can run the team.

That is why I would either want Kidd or Blake to help mentor Bayless to not only keep that penetration, but to also learn how to run a team smoothly, which I do not think Gordon would bring, but Kidd or even Blake can.

I am not 1000% against Blake starting again as he is solid if not uunspectacular and could allow Bayless to get some run and again platoon much like the previous scenario. But there is always that itch to improve and letting all that cap space and good players on rookie deals go to waste without upgrading would be a waste, IMO.

I kinda cant wait until TC to get here so all these ludicrous trade proposals and we can get down to improving.

Collegiate stats:

NCAA Arizona:
Jerryd Bayless: 19.7pts, 4.0 asts, 3to

NAIA Wisconsin-Stevens Point
Terry Porter: 19.7pts, 4.3 asts, 2.33to

by SpyderRyder on Jun 23, 2009 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I watched each of the Blazers summer league games last season. I was very excited about Bayless going there on draft day, and enthusiastic about his performances in the summer league games too. He had a couple of nice games (Nets game) in the regular season also.

However, I am not comfortable depending on him to be the team’s saviour. I like the potential and the possibilities that he represents, but he hasn’t convinced me that he is a certainty to fulfill his potential. I’m not happy with risking the club’s present and future of the chance of him becoming a star player.

Not when the club has the option of signing a very good free agent who can fix a major hole in the roster … without having to give up any of the best young talent on the team — that’s the key point for me.

by Who on Jun 21, 2009 4:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Portland's issue is defense

Portland has the number 1 or 2 (depending on who’s stats you look at) best offensive efficiency. I would love to see better offense, but that’s not what is holding them back.

Portland becomes a legitimate contender once the defense shapes up. It is improving, but it still has a ways to go.

Hedo is an offensive player. His defense is suspect. He is in no way the answer for Portland.

2 hot 2 stop it

by dan_the_man on Jun 21, 2009 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree, Portland’s defense is a massive issue. When Batum is your best stopper and your only above average defender on the perimeter, you have major issues. You also have problems with Aldridge’s team defense. Oden’s defense was poor too, but you have to feel that’s a temporary situation. There’s a huge amount of problems defensively.

I disagree about the offense not being a problem though.

An elite defensive squad, like the Houston Rockets, will take Portland’s offense apart. The Blazers lack versatility on the end of the floor, the team doesn’t have enough shot creators. And Aldridge is neither prolific enough or efficient enough to be the only go-to scorer on the team outside of Brandon Roy.

What happened in the playoffs to Portland’s offense … is a situation that will repeat itself until a third scorer is found. The Blazers offense is overly vulnerable, and unnecessarily vulnerable. Adding a third scorer fixes that.

by Who on Jun 21, 2009 5:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cleveland is another team who posts magnificent offensive efficiency numbers during the regular season … but a team who’s offense lacks versatility and can become un-done against elite defensive squads.

Portland’s offense will suffer the same problem — the answer could be found internally, Oden being the obvious fix, or perhaps Bayless or Rudy … but there’s no reason to take that chance. It can be fixed right now with a proven veteran without Portland losing any of their young talent.

by Who on Jun 21, 2009 5:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think as SpyderRyder pointed out

it is not a wise investment for Portland considering that Hedo’s strengths are duplicated and he does not shore up a lot of weaknesses we currently have.

Scoring is not a problem for Portland, but defense is. You may look at Aldridge’s scoring numbers and scoff, but keep in mind Portland plays the second slowest pace in the league.

Also, I dont see how Ben Gordon fits the mold of a player that can create for others. That has never been a strength of his, and we can replicate a lot of his scoring and poor defense just by starting Rudy. I would agree that Portland needs a third scorer, but as stated, there are a number of in house options that are more affordable and feasable, and players on the market that can help shore up the defense, which is obviously not a Turoglu strength.

I am sure someone will Tim Thomas Turkoglu, but it is probably not going to be Portland.

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Jun 21, 2009 3:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m fine with Aldridge’s scoring per game so long as there is a third scorer behind him.

Aldridge is neither prolific enough or efficient enough, for Portland to be a legitimate contender without a better third scorer than Outlaw behind him.

Oh, fully agree, Ben Gordon can’t create for anyone. He’s just a scorer, but that will be enough for Portland. I’d rather have someone who could also create for others, like a Turkoglu, but a pure scorer will do.

by Who on Jun 21, 2009 4:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the question stands

why take a team that is excellent on offense and try and add more? It make no sense to keep adding to a strength while ignoring a glaring weakness, and that is what a Turkoglu signing would do.

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Jun 21, 2009 6:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do not think they are excellent offensively as I replied in a comment up above

I think elite defensive teams can stop Portland. I don’t think their offense is versatile enough to withstand a great defensive effort.

by Who on Jun 21, 2009 6:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well they rank 8th in offensive efficency

and if you watch them a lot, it is really the second unit that has a lot of room to grow in that department, but both units have a ways to go defensively.

Again, you are not acknowledging a lot of in house options that Portland has if they want to get more offensive firepower.

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Jun 21, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It depends on how much faith you have on the kids improving offensively versus defensively.

Defensively

I think Martell Webster would have the Blazers best perimeter defender last season had he been healthy. His return will help improve their defense.

I think Greg Oden was poor defensively as a rookie, but that he will improve tremendously on that end of the floor over the next year or two. Once he gets his defense to a high level, then Portland will have 48 minutes of excellent defense from the center position. And the Blazers were a very good defensive team while Przybilla was on the floor, the problems grew when he was on the bench … and Oden’s improvement fixes that hole and makes them a very good defense without other improvements or additions, assuming Oden can actually improve his defense, which I feel very good about.

The third player is Batum. I rate him as a slightly above average defender presently, but he has incredible defensive potential and should be become a very good to elite defender within a few seasons.

I also think Brandon Roy can improve his defense if Portland can reduce some of the offensive burden that is on his shoulders.

Less Welcome Thoughts Defensively

I think the Blazers would make a massive improvement defensively by moving Rudy Fernandez, Travis Outlaw and LaMarcus Aldridge.

I think Rudy Fernandez is the worst defender on the team, and that Aldridge’s poor team defense is a major problem because of the large number of minutes that he plays.

In the end, I see them keeping Rudy and Aldridge but moving Outlaw. That’s something I guess.

Offensively

I think Greg Oden is the best option for improvement. I think his immediate attention needs to be on improving his defense though, so I’d rather he concentrated on that for the next two years and worked on his offensive game after he progresses defensively.

Aldridge? I’m not confident enough to depend on his improvement. His scoring efficiency badly needs to improve.

Rudy Fernandez and Travis Outlaw look the two next best options. At this stage, I think Outlaw is what he is, and don’t expect much more improvement from him.

Rudy Fernandez has very good potential offensively, but I don’t like his D. They’d have to play Roy at the three more often in order to give Rudy more minutes — which is something I’d rather avoid. It would make Portland quite small on the perimeter, and give them a very weak perimeter defense, unless of course Rudy improves his D.

Then there’s Jerryd Bayless. Good potential as a scorer. Not sure how likely he is to fulfill that potential though.

Summary

I have a lot more confidence in the internal options to improve defensively than offensively.

by Who on Jun 21, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you make good points

but Batum is already a better defender, on ball and team, than Webster. Aldridge man defense is not the greatest but his team defense picked up a lot at the end of the season. His quickness in the lane cause a lot of that.

I dont know what you have against Aldridge as he has a PER of 19, which is pretty respectable. Also, he finally found his footing after being jerked around by the coaching staff as they finally decided to cut the cord on force feeding Oden in the post. This clearer scoring role for Aldridge elevated his game.

you also failed to mention the burgeoning offense of Batum who has an improving shot and was excellent off the bounce in the limited number of times Portland allowed the SF to not be a spot up shooter

Still if Turkoglu comes on board he takes minutes from the 2 best perimeter defenders in Batum and Webster. That will certainly hurt. Also, Turkoglu may be clutch, but he is also a very inefficient scorer.

Finally, Portland is not at its best in iso situations, which is a Turkoglu strength. They are a dominant team when they are moving the ball in the halfcourt. Having a ball stop that wants 1-1 or high pick and rolls does not play to Portland’s strengths.

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Jun 23, 2009 5:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ron artest might be a better fit but alot of teams are scared of his mental state.

even though he had a decent year in houston without any real flare ups

im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!

by remembering9ergods on Jun 21, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ron Artest would be a great signing for the Blazers. His defensive ability would be an excellent addition to the squad. Big fan of that idea.

by Who on Jun 21, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There’s lots of very good-to-great options in free agency for the Blazers …

Unfortunately for Blazers fans though, Kevin Pritchard is planning on bringing back Steve Blake and Travis Outlaw, and in turn limiting the Blazers cap space this offseason. Which will consequently make it more difficult for Portland to win a title in the near future.

by Who on Jun 21, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Hedo will be resigned by Orlando too.

by Who on Jun 20, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus

All indications say that the Blazers will indeed exercise the team option of Outlaw. He could be had in a trade though.

And for all of you doubters, quick proof of Outlaw’s ability. As a Blazer first and a Celtic second, I really wouldnt mind some form of this going through.

by Samsara on Jun 20, 2009 11:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I like the post... but

it’s way off base. Portland is not looking for Hedo in anyway shape or form. There are bigger fish to fry in Portland. Outlaw is a huge cluth player, but with Webster back, do we need him? The SF spot is a logjam, and Outlaw is great. But he plays better as a back up 4, not 3. With Martell coming back and Batum having an enormous ceiling, we dont need anymore SF’s. With that being said, we need a back up PF with some body behind him(which Trout lacks). we need someone who can go out (and be okay with) playing about 14-20 mins a game(behind Lamarcus) and giving us some brute toughness.
Outlaw deserves more than that, but probably wont get it in Portland. I am a huge Outlaw fan, but don’t know if there is room for him here.

Greg Oden = Robert Parish - The only other rookie with more than 500 points, 400 rebounds, and 65 blocks in under 1400 minutes played. Since 1946

by FiveOhThree-RipCity!! on Jun 21, 2009 12:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I just don't see the Blazers

“dumping” Outlaw for Cap space. And Hedo is way over rated, bad shooter, good playmaker, bad defender, and he doesn’t play the point, no way Blazers go after him.

by usmcr3049 on Jun 21, 2009 1:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BAD BLOOD!!!!

Ainge hasn’t been a friend to PDX in a while, and he’s gone out of his way to impugn Pritchard’s integrity and intelligence on more than once occasion. I can’t see Portland doing anything whatsoever to help Boston in any way. If you rank teams that Portland’s likely to deal with, Boston would come out number 30 of 30. The only way a deal happens with these two teams involved is if Portland sees it as an outright robbery of Boston.

To Portland, Ainge is the bad guy from Billy Madison.

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by hobobob on Jun 22, 2009 12:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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