Latest Rondo Rumor: Memphis

that the reason they are shopping him is due to personality issues only. Too bad. Danny is probably working furiously to save his butt (keep the team title worthy) on this one.

possibly ends up in LA for Pierce’s buddy Baron Davis. Gets us the point to replace Rondo. I don’t like it but I bet Ainge is shopping for a vet point guard. Not sure Conley is title material.

Rondo for Rudy? Oh Yeah!!! Hey listen its tough getting a franchise player with size like Rudy, Pierce, Kobe, Lebron, Mello, Jordan etc…, but a point guard isn’t that tough to replace. I’m all for it, especially if Pierce is getting old and worn out… All the Celts need is a scoring point guard ie: Steve Nash, Jason Kidd, Rafer Alston, Raymond Felton etc etc… They’re are too many, heck i’ll go grab Janero Pargo if I have too… Peace!

I forgot about him…. BARON DAVIS is another candidate… i’m by far tired of Rondo’s Reluctance to shoot. It hurts the team. Then again he does so much more to make up for his Reluctance, but we have guys for that (Rebounding, steals etc…). Rudy is a great pick-up makes us younger for the future. RUDY, DAVIS, PERK!!!

I would probably do this deal. Conley really started playing well after the coaching change and Gay is a very good player…

but still not good enough, conley has potential, but i’m not sure he’s a good enough defender, and i love rudy gay, but he’s in the same boat as rondo, he’s up for an extension, and he’d command a lot of money to be the 6th man

if Rondo is dealt

I think starting Marbury risks opening a can of worms.

Because this is also the year to aquire pointguards. The draft should have about 13 pointguards in the first round, with guys like Ty Lawson, Jrue Holiday, Jeff Teague, Eric Maynor, Toney Douglas, Darren Collison, Patrick Mills, and Nick Calathes all projecting from 17 to 40.

There are also a number of high quality veterans available in free agency. Kidd, Bibby, Felton, Iverson, Jack, Sessions, Robinson, and Miller.

Conley will replace Rondo’s offensive numbers IN A HEARTBEAT!

I don’t love Rudy Gay, but I do like his ability to score and his athleticism.

I love Rondo, but I love what Danny is doing…

This is WAYYYYYYYYY too much talent to not trade Rondo for. We just sigjn a VET PG like Miller, Bibby or Kidd and we are good to go for #18!!!

I would be ok if we signed one of those 3 point guards after. The Ray for Baron Davis and Camby or Kaman would be interesting too.

Don’t waste time with this rumor

I can’t believe Memphis would do this deal. But if they do I’d take it.

Gay is 6-8 and can really score. His defense needs to improve, but he’s young. And I’ve always like Conley, who is a gamer.

However, I would hesitate to do any deal that sent Rondo to Memphis unless pick #2 comes back. I’d rather have pick #2 than either Gay or Conley because Ricky Rubio is a very special player.

I don’t think the problem with Rondo is the extension, it’s the attitude and coachability. I don’t think Ainge would be worried about giving an extension to Gay.

I really don’t think Danny is looking past next year. The “Window”…remember! And as composed with Rondo at the point we enter next year with the best starting five in the NBA. A few tweaks to the bench and a measure of injury luck (every NBA team starts the season with about the same amount of this luck) and we win it all.

I don’t think Mike Conley or Ricky Rubio – two maybes – can be compared to a point guard who is 23 and nearly averaged a triple double in the playoffs.

a deal that makes sense for boston we dont trade ray and we can ship scal outa here. I hope rondo has the time of his life with his max contract out in memphis hes not gonna win much but hes gonna get his max contract. The Whiner line will have a blast with a guy like “gay” being traded to the celtics. lol Its to bad that rondo has to go but he has not been in the nba long enough to earn the right to be as arrogant as he is

What % of his assists are on jumpshots? I could replace those. He puts up nice numbers personally, but he is killing Pierce’s offense bc he is getting helped off. His defense can be flashy, but I think he gets burnt his fair share. His rebounding will not be replaced unless you get J-Kidd.

Conley is an all around better offensive player than Rondo. He would match Rondo’s numbers offensively and probably average more assists…

Throw in a 24 year old 20 ppg scorer in Rudy Gay who is 6’8 and you have yourself a deal…

This rumor is intresting to say the least. False or not I like it better than the Detroit rumor. Gay was expected to have a breakout year last year and i think he struggled with Mayo hogging the ball. Gay can be your small Foward of the future. He has good athletecism,he’s long agile and has good foot work.I think Pierce can show this guy alot of things and can become a real good defender playing with KG and Perk.Now if this rumor is true I believe Ray would get dealt in a seperate deal without a doubt. I don’t think Ainge would go with Conley as a starter but rather a back-up role. If you say the Clippers for Davis and Camby you would be looking at a real deep team. Don’t forget we still would have the mle where we can get Dahntay Jones or G.Hill

pg- Davis/Conley
sg- Pierce/T.A. or maybe Dantahy Jones
sf- Gay/Maybe G.Hill
pf- KG/Powe/BBaby(If we resign him)
C-Perk/Camby(Camby can play both PF/C

This would be a pretty Deep expierianced team and would challenge for a title
I have a hunch Ainge would trade them in seperate deals so he gets more.

I really think trading Rondo is a bad idea, he is going to be triple double machine and perennial all-star. However, if we do trade Rondo and can get better, then ok. This deal does not make us better. If the deal was Gay and #2 pick (Rubio), complimented with getting a vet. FA PG, then that makes more sense. Conley is not that good.

They`ll want #2 pick.

Gay & #2…and Celts agree to this trade in a flash!

I don’t believe the stories about Rondo being difficult to coach or having attitude problems. That’s just being circulated by “sources” from other teams who would benefit from a drop in his trade value.

Having said that, it may well be that Rondo’s agent is throwing around salary numbers that the Celtics think are too high. Rondo is also an unorthodox player who does not fit smoothly into Rivers’ schemes.

The reason the C’s offense works is because each piece brings something different to the court. Rondo- driving to the lane/passing, Allen- spot up jump shooting, Pierce- driving to the lane/midrange jump shooting, Garnett- post game/midrange jump shooting, Perkins- garbage man( in a good way). In this deal the pieces we’d bring in, including possible Allen to Clips move, would be too redundant and the ball wouldn’t move enough.

This deal leaves us needing a starting pg and backup big. If we get a vet FA at pg we have no money for a big man.

While Conley is not as good as Rondo, I think he is still the key to this possible deal. The Celtics would get a young developing wing with great upside in Gay and a young point guard of the future in Conley.

However, there is another added benefit here. The long term relationship of Greg Oden and Conley. They both have the same agent – I believe its Greg Oden’s father and both have expressed a desire to play together again.

Both players are restricted free agents next summer. Danny could trade Conley to the Trailblazers and get a nice package in return. Or he could try next year to get them both to play together again in Boston.

To win this year? – Allen Iverson in the celtics backcourt could well be the plan.

Danny was just on D & C and did little or nothing to refute these issues. The kid has an amazing skill set, so trading him away could be extremely risky.

I’m unfamiliar with Conley. I remember him at OSU, but have seen very little of him since then. I know he’s extremel;y quick, but lacked a full offensive repertoire(ala Rondo). Does he have long-term potential?

Also, it was intersting to hear Danny openly discussing the possibility of the celtics landing a “superstar” in 2010. Man, have we come a long way since the development of GG and Kedrick Brown

keep rondo-he’s young and developing and has been on a championship team. i don’t want another billups situation.

It’s amazing that the Celtics are getting so much attention, especially during the middle of the Sox season

A few years ago this was inconceivable, but it simply proves that the Celtics are indeed a powerhouse in this town

Action or no-action on draft night, trade or no trade this off-season, this media attention for the team is tremendous, and don;t tell me that Wyc and Co. aren’t aware of this

It will not be tomorrow, unless the second pick is involved. Otherwise why make a trade on draft night that does not involve draft picks. If we give Kidd the full MLE then we know that Rondo is gone. I’d do a three way in which we got Conley, Gay, B. Davis and Camby. That gives us a better chance to win now, as well as a two young potential stars.

My problem with Conley is that he can’t shoot either.

Every team in the league wishes they had him and that is why his name is coming up so much. Sure Ainge would take a good deal if it was offered but he will be happy to keep him if the right offer isn’t made. I know some unname low level exec rumors say different, but I’ll believe Ainge over these rumors.

Somehow involves a pcik in tomorrow’s draft. That’s why it hasn’t been done yet.

Two objectives:

1) Win now
2) Keep open the window to sign Dwyan Wade’s like free agent in 2010

How?

Maybe in this way:

1) Rondo wants a very high contract, and “I know we won two championships without a point guard. I know the Lakers…Derek Fisher’s no point guard in the traditional sense” . So trade him and Scalabrine with
a) #2 pick —→ Tyreke Evans or Conley (unlinkey)
b) Rudy Gay
Take back Marbury with one year deal and a McDyess like free agent

In 2010 we have a qualyifing offer (4,4 mln) for Gay and an interesting point guard cheaper than Rondo = more cap space and flexibility

Then

New deal with PP, maybe around 14 mln, so in 2010 we have:

KG 18,8 mln
PP 14 mln
KP 4,4 mln
Evans 3 mln
Gay 4 mln
McDyess (?)
Leon 2 mln (?)

I think is a very good team for a Dwyane Wade’s like free agent who want to win.

Anyone who thinks this wouldn’t make us a better team seriously needs to watch some Rudy Gay highlight film. The kid will be a top 10 scorer by the time Pierce hangs it up. I would much rather pay Rudy Gay franchise money over Rondo simply because you can put the ball in Rudy Gay’s hands and expect him to score. Rondo may never get to that point. Obviously he is a better PG, but with the lineup flexability that Rudy Gay provides (giving us a true 6th man scoring option off the bench and the ability to start for Ray or PP giving them fresh legs for the playoffs) far outweights the likely deficiencies that Conley brings as an inferior PG to Rondo.
   Conley however, is no slouch, and was on a team with Rudy Gay as the featured player, often getting double-teamed. Conley on a Celtics team with 4 All-star calibur players (5 if you think Perk takes another leap) has waaaaay more to work with to actually display his full potential. This also gives us a huge trade chip with Portland if they want to deal for him to get him together with Oden.
     If this trade is even on the table, I can’t see how Danny Ainge turns this down to be honest. Gay won’t command nearly the contract that Ray Allen has, or that Rondo will want by the end of the season. We then take control over our cap-flexability, rather than strapping it with a Max-money deal for Rondo who, if the attitude rumors are true, could instantly poison the appeal of playing in Boston, which is the most important thing to keeping the team competitive now and in the future.
    Gay is much scarier as a 4th fiddle behind KG, PP, and Ray and becomes even more valubal than Ariza’s contribution to the Lakers this year. We are way overvaluing our need for a premier PG; with the team we have, we just need a guy that will distribute the ball, stay with his man, and not cause turnovers. Conley will do that and then some. If the Lakers can win a title with the hole they had at the PG slot, we should be no different. I’ll take Conley/Marbury or Miller over Fisher/Farmar any day of the week.

If this trade goes down, Rudy Gay will likely prove to make Ray expendable (especially if we resign House for his 3-ball…Gay puts up solid shooting numbers too, and gets to the rim more effectively than Allen at this point in their respective careers). What about then flipping Ray to the clips for their Logjam at PF/C and their new desire to dump B. Davis. On the trade checker, Allen for Camby/B. Davis is successful. If the Clips want to save another 8 millon by the end of the season, plus the life of BD’s contract, then I think they pull the trigger. Our lineup looks like something out of my wildest dreams:

B. Davis/Conley/Pruitt
Gay/House/Giddens
Pierce/Gay/B. Walker
KG/BB Davis/Powe
Perk/Camby/*BB Davis/ Moore (so-long)

That is a championship team without question. Pierce would probably have to re-structure his contract to keep Gay. Conley can either stay or we trade him to Portland for a solid return, so they can reunite Conley/Oden. Big Baby would likely not be on this team because some other team is going to over-pay for his services, but Camby’s arrival makes him mostly expendable. We then have the best defensive-big rotation I’ve ever seen on a modern-NBA team, plus several big-time scoring options across the board.