More Rondo Updates
by Jeff Clark on Jun 24, 2009 4:13 PM EDT
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Chris Broussard: Rajon Rondo is definitely on the market. I'm told he's very hard for Doc Rivers to coach, and that although Rondo gets along OK with his teammates, he's far from a great teammate. The fear in Boston is that if Rondo is this difficult to handle on a rookie-scale salary, he'll be a monster once he earns big money.
One GM told me, "They won a championship with this guy, and he's coming off a tremendous playoff performance ... and they're looking to trade him. That tells you how bad things are."
POSTED: June 24 -- 12:17 p.m. ET
Marc Stein: The Celtics scoffed with vigor Tuesday night when we presented them with a Rajon Rondo/Brian Scalabrine-for-Rudy Gay/Mike Conley scenario.
It certainly does make more sense that the Celts wouldn't surrender Rondo without getting the second overall pick back in the swap, but it's clearly getting harder and harder for them to convince folks that Rondo
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trading for gay and conley...
isn’t going to alleviate the Cs need to make long term financial commitments.
Yes, it does
In my opinion of course, but i’ve explained in other topic thinking about Gay+second pick
How so?
Gay isn’t going to get Ray Allen money. We could get him for like 10-14 mil/ 5 years (equivalent to Josh Smith), and Conley can be had for 5-7 mil for 3/4 seasons, no? That only equals what our cap is already at; then when Ray expires he can resign with us for less (MLE), especially if Pierce is willing to restructure as well. You have to also consider Conley as a solid trade chip with Portland. We could possibly flip he and Allen right now to the Blazers for a Bayless, Outlaw, Pryzbilla package or something along those lines, especially if the Blazers are serious about getting Conley/Oden back together. Sure we are still a luxury tax team, but we will be contending for the title without question with the kind of lineups we would have.
my point is:
gotta pay Gay this year and Conley in two. I don’t buy the Conley to Portland slamdunk, and don’t really want anything they have anyway (except Roy).
if we could come away with gay, fernandez, outlaw and a 1st rounder id be all for it
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
by remembering9ergods on Jun 24, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that’s is the idea:
1) Rondo wants a very high contract, and "I know we won two championships without a point guard. I know the Lakers…Derek Fisher’s no point guard in the traditional sense" . So trade him and Scalabrine with
a) #2 pick —→ Tyreke Evans or Conley (unlinkey)
b) Rudy Gay
Take back Marbury with one year deal and a McDyess like free agent
In 2010 we have a qualyifing offer (4,4 mln) for Gay (he wants more? bye bye, unless he has developed into a big star) and an interesting point guard cheaper than Rondo (Evans = 2 mln)
make it stop.
When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"
It will stop...
When he is FINALLY shipped out of town!!!
by funkstarrdeluxe on Jun 24, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I can’t get over how fast Celtics fans have turned on Rondo. I’m kind of disgusted actually.
When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"
I feel the same way every time I read a Ray Allen trade idea.
At the very least, the vocal minority is now in favor of changing the core of this team.
by The Walker Wiggle on Jun 24, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
squeaky wheel gets the grease. even if it 100% totally wrong.
When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"
I’m kind of curious how not wanting to overpay for a guy who can’t score from the perimeter, takes plays off on the defensive end and is apparently some degree of a difficult coach is “turning on Rondo.”
I’m rather ambivalent about the proposed Memphis deal, and I remain skeptical that Ainge will actually move Rondo, but I’m certainly not married to any player, let alone one with definitive holes in his skillset, and, apparently, maturity.
Agreed but when talking about maturity…has the definition changed?
when i think Immature I think KG taunting players, pounding his chest, his constant cussing or crying and screaming incoherently after winning a championship
or pierce at 23
but rondo immature? really? because I find him to be extremly mature for his age
As a coach, I define maturity as taking care of your business on and off the court. That includes playing every possession, working to improve your game, complying with team schedules, etc.
It has nothing whatsoever to do with yelling.
Maturity has nothing to do with taunting opposing players, cussing at fans, pounding your chest, crawling on you hands and knees, making hand gestures from the bench to the other team, and crying on national tv? this is mature behavior?
what? maturity has to do with taking care of buissness on and off the court, well rondo off the court is as mature and levelheaded and focused as ive seen, as for on the court as we all know rondo can be inconsistent, inconsistency doesnt make you immature…it makes you inconsistent
I'm not all that interested in getting into the "How mega-important is lateness?" debate,
but if you’re going to call a guy as “mature…and focused as [you’ve] seen,” I’m curious as to your take on being late on multiple occasions on game nights to the point of being fined.
For clarity ahead of time: I’m not of the belief that a couple of tardiness incidents (for who knows what reason?) makes a guy some sort of antichrist, but I do think it’s at least cause for being careful with such positive hyperbole with regard to his maturity/demeanor.
-sw
"I didn't go there with the intentions of getting ejected. I went there with the intentions of just telling Kobe, 'You got to relax. You're hitting the wrong person. Don't you know you're hitting Ron Artest?'" -Ron Artest, 05.06.09
by Steve Weinman on Jun 25, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I Haven't Turned
I still want Rondo but it seems more and more likely that we will trade him. I just want to get something fair in value for him, if we are to trade him. I will always be a Rondo fan whether he’s on the C’s or not. I bet a large contingent of Celtics fans think like I do.
Fair value?
Is an 18 year old point guard with English as a 2nd language who was ok in international pro ball and had a few flashes in the Olympics fair value?
When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"
I'll just throw out there that if something like this goes down and we also get the 2nd pick I bet it gets packaged with ray
If we can sell Rondo and garbage and get back pick the two, gay and conley it would be crazy. Its so much that id have to do it and I love rondo! But i wouldn’t suprised if we did another blockbuster with Ray and the two to get another big, a back up point and shooting guard who can start.
Memphis is giving us huge value
If we are getting Gay/Conley…..you will all eat your words and realize how little this team needs a top-5 PG to still run this ship. KG going down was a big reason to Rondo’s inflated playoff numbers…..yes he answered the call, but he also didn’t take us all the way. So now he thinks he is a bonafide superstar; what happens next season when KG eats up a lot of his shots again? His numbers will slide next season and he isn’t appearing to be the kind of player that is cool with that.
Conley isn’t in Rondo’s league on Memphis, but Conley on a Boston team with Rudy Gay is ridiculous….any starting PG in the league could effectively run our team when we are healthy.
huh?
was rondo suppose to lead us all the way this season?
I dont recall trading pierce the first 9 years of leading us nowhere
it took the Twolves 13 years to trade KG cause he didnt lead them anywhere
and people will soon learn that the theory any PG can run this team is very far from the truth…lets see how conley deals with playing with the big 3s egos
That's not what I'm trying to say
I’m saying that it didn’t happen; I didn’t expect that out of Rondo, and he definitley exceeded mine and everyone else expectations, including himself too. I just don’t happen to think Rondo should get a contract equivalent to that of Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Billups, or even Tony Parker because we still can’t put the ball in his hands on any given play, needing and expecting him to score. In reality, we don’t need that at all out of him when KG is also healthy.
Tell this to the young, budding star Rondo though….he just doesn’t seem like a guy who is going to be willing to reassume his reduced role when KG comes back and gets all those shots that Rondo took to make up for his injury. ESPECIALLY IN A CONTRACT YEAR. Rondo is going to want the ball in his hands at all times, and I think it is going to cause more dissention next year then it is worth dealing with. You can’t blame him for wanting to get paid, but we won’t have the cap-room to keep him and Allen next year anyway.
Many younger players are willing to play for qualifying offers in this situation, but as a player who slid in the draft, and who has been making slim pickings (on an NBA scale) for 3 seasons, it makes sense that he will be looking for the max-money ASAP. It isn’t going to happen here, so we should move him now while we can get equal or greater value in return.
Rondo is the best rebounding PG in the league.
Rondo is top 3 defensive PGs in the league.
Rondo is top 6 in assists.
I could care less what he scores, the three attributes are what this team needs. Conley is half the player Rondo is.
When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"
One and three I agree with. Two, I don’t. Rondo won’t get into the pantheon of top defensive guards taking plays off, as he is wont to do.
ok then name the top 3 point guards and try not putting Rondo in there.
When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"
Lists are subjective, and they’re useless – as are unsourced proclamations that Rondo’s one of the best three defensive points in the league. I have no interest in arguing subjectivity.
He can be – but he isn’t, because his level of effort is wildly inconsistent. He takes plays – and sometimes games – off.
fine bo if that’s your opinion. i disagree.
However, you do seem to be basing your willingness to trade RR based on media reports that have come out in the last two weeks (max contract, uncoachable). Also subjective, and likely not wholly accurate either.
When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"
Uh, you are totally off-base.
I have criticized Rondo’s defense, his failure to improve his shooting and the inconsistency of his effort for a LONG time on this board. Whether you agree with them or not is totally up to you.
As for the observations, I intend to stick to them. As of today, I am totally comfortable with Ainge’s evaluation of Rondo’s status with the Celtics. What he does with that evaluation is fine with me.
And, as the record will show, I have frequently criticized Ainge’s judgment in the past.
That is not something I will criticize here. I agree – in total – with his evaluation of Rondo, and I hope it motivates him to actually elevate his game to star level. Talk is cheap, and this is a results business.
"I have frequently criticized Ainge's judgment in the past"
Understatement for the year. There will be no close seconds.
:-D
-sw
"I didn't go there with the intentions of getting ejected. I went there with the intentions of just telling Kobe, 'You got to relax. You're hitting the wrong person. Don't you know you're hitting Ron Artest?'" -Ron Artest, 05.06.09
by Steve Weinman on Jun 25, 2009 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
well i might be close:>)
in additiion to everything else, the night we didn’t sign Posey, i said I felt like we lost the title. yeah it seemed stupid at the time, like suggesting youd work for the NBA, eventually.
Hope you are doing great, Steve
I’m kind of curious how not wanting to overpay for a guy who can’t score from the perimeter, takes plays off on the defensive end and is apparently some degree of a difficult coach is "turning on Rondo."
Unless you were claiming that Rajon isn’t a max player or is difficult to coach months ago, I don’t see how I’m off base. That you routinely criticized other aspects of his game is fine.
Also the request for a max contract could very well be a negotiating stance from his agent. I don’t see such a request as a basis to decide to trade a player.
When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"
Gotta agree with CoachBo
I think Rondo’s praised more for his defensive potential and quickness than for what he actually does. How many times have you screamed at him on TV – “stay in front of your man!” He lets guys go by him who aren’t nearly as quick.
The rebounding and assists, though, are really top tier.
We’re getting into “Oh, my God. Don’t trade my favorite player” territory, which is dangerous to the future of the franchise and useless blather for fans.
Rondo is a good point guard, top 10 easy in the league. He isn’t top 5, for the reasons Ainge has pointed out today, and any request for a max contract at this point is nonsense that will force the Celtics to make a move with him.
And Gay is five times the scorer that Rondo is
Our bench couldn’t get it done and this is a guy who will solve any and all offensives bench needs, and has the ability to start already for Pierce or Allen if they are hurt or simply to rest them during the regular season. This trade coupled with a Vet PG signing, and a Vet-big signing with the MLE and LLE pretty much hands us the title….not sure how this isn’t obvious.
In case you missed the last two years, the team is based on defense. Last time I checked, Rudy didn’t play much D.
When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"
on Memphis???
why would anyone have any incentive at all to try and play hard D night in and out, knowing that you will not even make the playoffs? Watch the defense that Gay will bring playing alongside KG, Perk and Pierce. You guys are thinking so narrowly with this it makes me ill. Rondo isn’t the best man on man defender either, I’m pretty sure Derrick Rose lit him up, and even Rafer Alston had a couple nights that he didn’t have all season long on Rondo’s watch.
Let it be known
that I am just as big a fan of Rondo’s game as anyone. Like I said before, if there were no salary-cap restrictions like in baseball, there probably wouldn’t be one thread about this topic. It is very unfortunate, but I want to see this team doing more than making one more championship run. After next season, things won’t be looking so hot for us financially, so what do we do?
Sorry about that...
It was more in teasing than it really was about Rondo. I don’t know the kid, but he has played pretty well here. I think if Danny makes a move, then he knows what he is doing. If he doesn’t, then I just will assume it was part of his plan not to. Honestly, Danny has gained a lot of credibility in my eyes turning the team around from almost the worst in the league to the champions. He knows what he is doing, it is just fun to speculate on all the remote possibilities because there isn’t any real basketball to talk about.
by funkstarrdeluxe on Jun 24, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Danny doesn't have a clue
He just has good friend, McHale and Sarver. Danny has made more than his share of boneheaded moves.
by 420celticsFAN on Jun 24, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
there are big problems
behind the scene if ainge is saying what he said today and every national website is saying he is uncoachable
by celticinorlando on Jun 24, 2009 4:29 PM EDT reply actions
I posted this in the last "update/rumor"
what if DA has a trade in the works but it is based on Rondo signing an exstention with the new team (like we did with KG) and DA is trying to lower Rondo’s price so the deal can be done. This is the only reason I can think of why DA would start saying all this stuff at this point….
I did see an interview in which Rondo – very seriously – said that he used to get intensely competitive over the game Connect Four when he was a child. If you can get hot headed over a game of Connect Four, then there is no telling how much of a $%# he can be on the basketball court. Seriously. It must be the case, because on talent alone, there is no way they would even consider moving him.
With the 2nd pick
I think if the 2nd pick is included with Conley and Gay it’s a great trade for us.
IF the 2nd pick is included in this trade also
We get Rubio to share minutes with Conley, or trade down with Minn, get back another piece (or possible future 1st), plus a guy like Stephen Curry/Flynn/Jennings….and you can just hand us the title now. I highly doubt we get this much back.
That’s asking too much.
I’d be happy with Conley and the #2. (Rubio).
by a tommy point on Jun 24, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
??
2 young point guards that aren’t Rondo’s league? no thanks.
by slamtheking on Jun 24, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe
2nd pick with Gay and Conley then move that pick for #5 and #6 to Minn for possibly Harden/Flynn/Evans? We’d have to sweeten the pot for Memphis but I’m not sure we could do that with what we have. I don’t think TA and Scal’s expiring deals are that enticing. Maybe take Jaric’s bad contract from them to get them to do it.
That would be intriguing. I’m not advocating a trade of Rondo but that would be a helluva deal if Danny pulled it off.
by slamtheking on Jun 24, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, they'd better
secure an ELITE, top shelf PG in return, because without RONDO, there’d be no banner 17.
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Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk
We don't need a top 10 PG even
if we get back Conley who will be more than enough, plus Gay who will do far more for us than Ariza did with the Lakers. Other than the last couple games of the Finals (which were highly unmemorable) when did the Championship Lakers have solid PG contributions?
We as Celtics fans, lacking any PG of any kind for so many years, waaaaay over-value the need for a top tier PG to effectively run a team loaded with guys that can create their own shot anyway. KG, Pierce, and Ray spent years on their respective crappy teams with no one to get them the ball, so they naturally have adapted games that allow them to create their own shot anyway. Trust me, Conley will be able to get them the ball just the same.
that is just the words of a blind laker-hater
they won the championship. I live in San Diego, so I have to deal with the Laker victory every day from all my friends. They were able to win a title with almost no production from their PG’s. Kobe and Gasol can create their own shots, and Kobe is an excellent passer in his own right (as well as Gasol). KG is one of the better passing big-men in the league, Ray spreads the floor, and Pierce creates his own shot most of the time. Where in this equation do you see the need for a PG other than to not turn the ball over, and make passes to get our scorers the shots they like? Rondo does that, but next season he is going to want a 5 year 70 million dollar contract for it, and we aren’t going to be able to give it to him…..you really have to think about this more than just Rondo being an amazing player and being pissed about trading him. In a perfect world, the NBA would be like the MLB and we could overpay every player on the team like the Red Sox and Yankees do, but we don’t have that luxury in this sport. You have to think far more economically.
We stand pat, then at the end of the season we pay Rondo all of the money Ray expires for, or at least enough of it to not even bring Ray back even if PP wants to take a pay-cut. How does this make the team better in 2010/11? KG and Pierce together can compete for titles for at least 3-4 more seasons with the right pieces…..so why not make that happen?
Blind laker hater?
No not really, I just think we won a championship a season ago with KG healthy and rondo at PG
I dont think because the lakers win it all we all of a sudden have to change out team to be like them…that makes no sense at all
You are right except
that the situation is quite different now than when we won our title. And don’t forget that we won a ring against an L.A. team without both Bynum and Ariza, forcing Gasol to play out of position much of the series. By my math, we lost KG this year and we didn’t win the title, so that would indicate that KG is far more the key to our team than Rondo.
Rondo on our title team is even more superior as a player now, but he will no longer be playing for peanuts dude. So yeah we can MAYBE compete with LA this season standing pat and adding some FA’s….but after that, we are going to take a huge dive when we have to fork 15 mil /per or more to Rondo and having to beg both Pierce and Ray to play at a discounted rate. I see that not even happening, especially if we come up short again. I’m just trying to be real about the situation at large.
Hmmm….
Won a championship and 128 regular season games in 2 seasons…and rondo is uncoachable? this is becoming fabrication after fabrication…..
and do they know if mike conley and rudy gays attitudes are any better? stoudemires? stuckeys?
I highly doubt it
and im not going to be happy when rondos gone, might just skip next season actually
These trade rumors are depressing
I thought Doc said he wanted to move forward with this core?
If I am Rondo I am calling Danny begging for forgiveness
Is there anything worse than being shipped off to Memphis? Whatever Rondo has done to earn the Celtics’ wrath, he would be better off fixing it.
Apology
Danny should be calling Robert Sarver and thank him for trading Rondo for Banks. You think we win the title with Banks?
by 420celticsFAN on Jun 24, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
no way memphis is giving up
gay, conley AND the #2 pick for rondo and scal…never ever
by celticinorlando on Jun 24, 2009 5:01 PM EDT reply actions
I don't want Rondo gone
But if he has to go, we could do a lot worse than Rondo/Scalabrine for Gay/Conley. On another note, I really hope Stein is wrong about the Celtics demanding the #2 pick, at least if it’s in lieu of Gay or Conley. Doc has refused to play rookies, and even if he’s pushed into playing whoever we pick, we really want to rely on a rookie to take the place of a MAJOR contributor on a championship team? Again, this knee-jerk stuff is baffling. This is the same team that won a title barely 12 months ago, went 27-2 to start this past season and went 62-20 w/o its best player for one-third of its games.
In the end, unless the situation with Rondo is truly as dire as some report, I think Ainge is just trying to scare Rajon straight, and will decide against trading him, and just cross the contract bridge when he comes to it. Blowing up a team that was this good the last two seasons and has a limited window of championship opportunity is risky, risky business.
Ricky Rubio is a superstar
Is far better than T.Parker looking ahead, i really don’t understand Danny’s idea that Evans is better than Rubio. It’s a foolish idea. Please Danny, if you take #2 pick, take RUBIO!
He is?
How many all-star games has Rubio been in? Don’t you actually have to play in the league before you can be a superstar?
by funkstarrdeluxe on Jun 24, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
????
All of this seems to be nothing more tham hyperbole. Rondo can not be that uncoachable, or malcontent. Otherwise you actually think we would have won the title in 08’. Rondo’s talent far outwiegh his on court shortcomings and whatever off court shortcomings he has ca’t possibly be all that bad. Ainge is bad at spin and should just shut his mouth, or we should trade Ainge. This trade Rondo nonsense needs to stop. For anyone who thinks trading him is a good idea, I own a bridge in Brooklyn I’ll sell you real cheap.
Of course
He is a potential superstar, but i live in Europe and i’ve watched Rubio’s games so many times. I know, Europe is quite different from Nba, but if you judge a player considering all star game appearances you can always give up your draft picks for free…
Trade Ainge
He’s Chris Wallace and Rick Pitino’s illegitmate love child. Being friends with McHale doesn’t make you a good GM.
Anyway one thing it's for sure
I want Rondo in Boston next year.
Get that #2 pick, take Rubio, and never look back. Do it, Danny. Chris Wallace can be had.
I’m tired of all this crap. For all of Rondo’s tremendous abilities, he’s still prone long spells of being a complete spaz on the court. And, apparently, off the court.
is there anyone in the league that doesnt have spells of playing bad basketball?
as for him off the court, ive seen and heard nothing that makes me think hes a bad kid, as a matter of fact the exact opposite, hes a family man, works for charitys, runs basketball camps, etc etc etc
he wants too much money, simple as that
He rollerskates, too.
There have been reports about this kid’s attitude all the way back to his Kentucky days. I don’t think we’re out of line assuming that there may be some fire behind this smoke.
by a tommy point on Jun 24, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
is it just me or does rondo need to be a cocky, confident kid to deal with the big 3, and there giant egos?
that and can anyone confirm to me Amare, Stuckeys, Conleys, Gays work ethic? or how about there off court maturity? can we get some info on this? how does Conley get along with his coach? etc etc etc
this is all hyperbole…rondo wants big money, celtics dont wanna pay…but for his character now to be in question is sad and pathetic…
?
If they had the #2 Gay and Conley – Don’t you think Thabeet would be considered?
There is no way that trade gets made. Rondo has nowhere near that value.
He can maybe get us the #2 and Conley, but no chance in hell does Gay get included.
by a tommy point on Jun 24, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree
I was just responding to previous posts. The pick seemed slanted to selecting a guard when a 7’ 2" center is available.
Thabeet scares me. Don’t want anything to do with him.
If we give up Rondo, we should try for a PG to replace him. Rubio, I say.
by a tommy point on Jun 24, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Rubio
They all scare me! We know Rubio can see the floor and make passes and plays. We know Thabeet can be a rotary in the lane redirect traffic. Other than that, I don’t much about either one. I hope Danny does!
In Danny We Trust
Not clear to me whether they are trying to lower his value or trade him.
IMO when Rondo played well last year, we were unbeatable. Whether that points to his upside or his inconsistency, is not clear.
IMO Danny’s kicking the tires. If our value of Rondo is higher than the league’s, we try to keep him and pay the league rate, if the league values him more than we do, we ship him.
But it also seems to me that in these harder economic times, teams like the Celts should be able to get better by trading with teams like Memphis. We’re willing to take on more salary (at a good value) by helping them shed.
What they’ll want in return is some kind of draw (not necessarily wins) — maybe a player with a local connection.
Jeff!
Can’t post this on fanposts. I’m over 50 and can’t figure it out. Perhaps you can load it up. Bill Russell on The Daily Show.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=230714&title=Bill-Russell
by The Real Large James 2 on Jun 24, 2009 6:06 PM EDT reply actions
26 Hours away from hearing David Stern say...
“With the 2nd pick in the 2009 NBA Draft…the Boston Celtics select Hasheem Thabeet from the University of Connecticut”.
and Celtics fans going NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"
Is Danny shooting himself in the foot again?
We made the mistake of lowballing and eventually losing out on Posey which was the worst move last summer. Danny and Doc are doing a lot of trashing Rondo about his needing to grow up, getting fined, too stubborn, uncoachable, etc. Why would we not just shop him and keep the bad behavior if it is really that bad out of the lime light? Right now his big thing is not being able to hit his jumper or improve in 2 years over his 64% rookie FT shooting.
And now you are going to go public with all this behavior stuff and then try to get “fair value” for him? We hid the obvious faults of Gerald Green, praised him and Danny knew Green was an immature project at best. We were able to unload him with Al, etc for KG.
I think Celt brass are burning too many bridges now and Rondo won’t want to resign with us regardless of having a good, bad or mediocre year. Rondo will not appreciate this because this only devalues his extension worth. So basically because of all the negative publicity we either suck it up and let him walk when we don’t match next year’s #s that someone else throws his way or we take less for Rondo because we have tarnished his value by going public with all this baggage. Better to have moved him and let the “buyer beware” like we did with Gerald Green.
I’ve got no problem moving Rondo for the right deal but Danny has again misplayed his hand just like he did with the Posey negotiations. Celt brass needs to be sharper than what they have done since getting #17.
What a giant pointless guano storm Danny started here
Absolutely pointless to devalue your assets in public, regardless if everything he said is true or not. Nothing good comes from it.
Danny, shut yer piehole. Build value in your players, don’t lessen it.
2 theories on these rumors.
There are two angles that I can think of in regard to this, although there is no way to really know.
One is that Ainge does not want to trade him but wants to bring the kid back to earth.
The other is that he wants to trade him and the team(s) he is dealing with is putting out false crap to keep other teams from bidding for him.
Ainge lies, but all the other GMs do it too, so there is no way to know what the truth really is.
Ainge knows exactly what he's doing
i think Ainge is open for either option. he has already worked it all out, so it won’t be backfired if Rondo stays. on the other hand, Ainge wants to give an impression to those teams interested in Rondo, to raise their bid.
another observation is, while Ainge has made all these noises, he must have discussed with Doc beforehand. so my guess is that Doc also endorses the view that they could win banner 18 without Rondo.
I don't see how any of this is helpful to anyone
If you’re going to trade him, don’t diss him and lower his value forever more.
If you’re not going to trade him, now you’ve pissed him off and who knows what kind of production you’ll get from his next year.
If you’ve already got a trade for him and need to drive down his extension price or something, why trash him and make a possible trade partner wary of what they might be getting?
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