Kidd In Play? (and Other Rumors)
by Jeff Clark on Jun 28, 2009 8:21 PM EDT
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The Dallas Morning News reports:
Wednesday is when teams officially can begin talking to free agents, and Kidd is expected to get overtures from several teams: Cleveland, Portland, Boston, New York and perhaps the Lakers. All of those teams except for Portland are stymied by the salary cap. The Knicks can only offer their mid-level exception, expected to be between $5 million and $6 million. Kidd earned $21 million last season. The Mavericks can pay him any amount up to the league maximum. Interesting if true. I always assumed that he'd end up back in Dallas. I also assumed that we'd be interested in backup point guards not starters. But of course none of these rumors phase me anymore. If that doesn't ring your bell, Here are some more rumors for you.
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One website that I can't read has a rumor linking the Celtics to Oberto. LOY's place offers a very rough translation.
- Stephen A Smith tweets: "Dahntay Jones is looking for a multi-year deal. The Celts are willing to surrender $8 mil over 2 years. He wants 4 years."
- Ridiculous Upside reports the following names for our Orlando Summer League team thus far: Bryan Mullins, Lester Hudson, Chris Lofton, Gabe Pruitt, Bill Walker, J.R. Giddens
- The Globe reports on Big Baby: "One NBA general manager said Davis could maybe garner a contract paying $3 million-$4 million in the first year, while another said he’d get close to the mid-level exception (at least $5.6 million)."
- The Globe also reports "While fellow rookie forward Bill Walker was considered to be ahead of Giddens last season, Rivers said they are on the same level now and are likely competing for one spot."
- McDyess going back to Detroit is no sure thing.
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Ason Kidd
He still has no J, his defense gets worse as he ages, it’s like bringing old, taller Rondo off the bench. This would be a bad move, but then again trashing Rondo in the press didn’t make much sense either and Ainge did that so I guess it’s very possible.
by jackscompletelackofsurprise on Jun 28, 2009 8:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
kidd
43% from 3 point last year. so uh, you have to respect the j now.
by jdpapa3 on Jun 28, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm....
Have to respect Kidd’s J now …. well, I think a lot of teams have not done and will not do it; and they won’t get burnt.
by wincelticswin on Jun 29, 2009 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dahntay Jones
At first glance $8m/2yrs seems a bit high, but if he’d take $11M/4yrs I’d be comfortable with that. Personally, I’d prefer Marion or Jamario Moon, but maybe they’re out of that price range.
If it’s true we’re looking at him it at least shows Ainge recognizes the desperate need for a wing defender (something I thought was obvious going into last season).
the best case scenario would be to do a sign-and-trade with DEN for Tony Allen (and Pruitt/Giddens if need be). It gives DEN an expiring contract, a bench player, and lets us keep the full MLE.
by Gainesville Celtic on Jun 28, 2009 8:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Unless Rondo gets traded i dont see a point in getting kid.
I def wouldnt give Jones a 4 year deal i would only want him on a 1 year deal.
I dont expect McDyess to go back to Detroit so thats no surprise, it would be nice to have him as long as he isnt asking too much.
Oberto would be nice if its for the min but wouldnt want to use the MLE for him.
I would be surprised to see Giddens or Walker cut but i wouldnt be surprised if one of them is gone via trade. I would much rather keep Walker at this point he seems to have much higher upside but ill have to see at summer league i never got a good look at Giddens but he did do well in the DLeague not that it means much.
by adesilva on Jun 28, 2009 8:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No on Kidd
He’ll cause their defense to break down because he can’t guard anyone. No way.
by Kuberski33 on Jun 28, 2009 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
how is portland so loaded and so under the cap?
by celticinorlando on Jun 28, 2009 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If we give Jones a deal at $4M per, how do we sign a big guy? The LLE? Doesn’t sound very promising unless there is the proverbial other shoe still hanging in the balance…
by Berkcelt on Jun 28, 2009 9:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So we're going to talk to Kidd...
makes sense, I don’t think he’ll come here to be a 6th man.
So that leaves Oberto and Dahtay Jones! Oh boy!
Vince Carter, Shaq, Randy Foye and Miller….
they’re okay, but who isn’t totally amped about Oberto and Jones!!!!! #18 here we come.
by Nut from NH on Jun 28, 2009 9:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
All we need is bench help.
I agree that we could do better than Jones and Oberto, but we don’t need any starters.
by RIPRED on Jun 28, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think a "starter" caliber player would be willing to come to us
and I think we very much need one, at that. We can’t rely on these role players to be the team, we have no playmaking on the bench – someone, anyone. DA better do something this summer. I don’t want another Posey/Maggette debacle and instead getting POB. Oh boy.
Point being, we need starter material for our bench to compete. Simple as that.
by Slick on Jun 28, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Kidd story is a joke...
I don’t believe it. Every NBA writer has the Celtics interested in every big name FA. I think it is just a bunch of wild guesses from writers needing something to write about after the draft.
by Chief # 1 on Jun 28, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think its more like
they DO have interest in everyone, but nowhere near the prices its going to take for most of them.
by alskor on Jun 28, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
free agents
I very dearly want Chris Anderson, however I will say it again now that I would be shocked if McDyess does not come to Boston. I also think that Marbury will be here as well.
by gustusias on Jun 28, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
NO Kidding. If the lack of outside shooting from Rondo is one of the reason the Celtics looking for a new PG, then getting Kidd won’t solve the problem.
by wincelticswin on Jun 28, 2009 10:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It doesn't matter.....
who the Leprechauns-I mean celtics- get in the FA market. The big 3 is aging right before our very eyes and Danny Ainge can’t pull another miracle out of nowhere again. Plus, with Shaq going to Cleveland and the Magic signing Carter, it looks like they’ll place third in the east. Boston fans better not put much hope into next year.
by pharoah on Jun 28, 2009 10:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
really..
your wrong! very wrong
they almost beat magic this year with no kg and powe our first two pf players
by 00dc2 on Jun 28, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
really?
I beg to differ. I admit that if KG comes back healthy the Celtics are a much better team and would have beat the magic for another Laker-Celtic showdown. But after the upcoming season, I don’t know how Danny Ainge will put together a championship contender. KG, Ray Allen and Pierce will be well over 30 and their legs won’t be able to take the grueling length to the finals. Ainge better find some young free agents like Kupchak put around Kobe.
GO LAKES!!!
by pharoah on Jun 28, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All that fresh young talent
Like Sasha Vujacic, Jordan Farmar and Sun Yue.
You definitely makes us jealous with what your future stores.
Oh, maybe not.
by Tradetime on Jun 28, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don`t you just love it when Laker fans...
PRETEND Kobe is so much younger than Pierce?
Pierce is older by LESS than one year.
As for “wear & tear” issue…career NBA minutes played {including playoffs} :
Kobe…41,418
Paul….33,627
by Title 18 on Jun 29, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marion
Shawn Marion would be sweet off the bench. Will he come to Boston for less $$?
by wdogg72 on Jun 28, 2009 10:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
glad some folks got it
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
by Jeff Clark on Jun 29, 2009 7:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No J?
Ason Kidd shot over 40% from 3PT during the regular season and nearly 45% during the playoffs.
by dslack on Jun 28, 2009 10:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Summer League or "the Battle for Backcourt Minutes"
No front court players yet for our Summer League team? As is, we’re fielding a 6’6" and under squad. Further pressure to resign Davis? Anyone have any insight into Bryan Mullins’ game? Or Lofton’s?
P.S. OKC’s team is deeper than even the split Philadelphia/New Jersey team.
by The Walker Wiggle on Jun 28, 2009 10:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jones for 4 million per year?
AIne should e fired if that is true. That guy is not worth 4 million bucks per. If he is, then baby is worth 10.
by correcttitle on Jun 28, 2009 11:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Referencing steven i smith among credible sources is silly.
Jones would be an excellent addition.
So would Oberto.
by iowa plowboy on Jun 28, 2009 11:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
good article in LA Times
breaking down the Rondo deal. The offers WERE legit, no one is biting. Ainge and Rivers can’t stand him, period. Ainge meant what he said the first time and is now trying to make peace after not a nibble on the various offers. The gist of the article, Rondo a bigger head case than imagined.
by lakersbluedevil on Jun 28, 2009 11:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
eh...
that article (i’m assuming you mean the mark heisler one) just rewrites all the gossip that has been going around with no sources, no substance, no verifiable proof that the brass “can’t stand him, period.”
by ChainSmokingLikeDino on Jun 29, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Typical LA for ya
All flash, no substance and phony.
by alskor on Jun 29, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dahntay Jones signing
No 1 need off the bench is another big guy. So no wing player will be signed before they commit to big man, probably using the MLE. What’s left over from the MLE, if anything, or the LLE or vet minimum will then be used to sign a wing. That’s not going to be $4M per or anything close to it.
by Ainge wantabe on Jun 29, 2009 12:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Danny MUST make a trade...
This free agent market is very weak!
When teams are fighting over “has-beens” like McDyess and Kidd, or a “zero” like Dahntay Jones…it`s time to pull the trigger on a trade.
Shawn Marion is the only FA that is any good, but he doesn`t solve Boston`s biggest problem…LENGTH.
by Title 18 on Jun 29, 2009 12:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thoughts...
1. Kidd is a no go. Does anyone remember how Celtics fans chanted wife beater when he was on Jersey in the ECF? I’m sure he still does.
2. Oberto is a decent back up for the vet min
3. Summer league should be good, hopefully Hudson ends up playing well and either Giddens or Walker shows that they are ready for some time.
4. Dahntay Jones is not getting that much money, certainly not from the Celtics. If he does it will cut into our MLE and the board might crash from the angry protests.
5. Doc said that Giddens and Walker are competing for one spot? Sure they are Doc, that’s just like saying all positions are open. Coaches say it but it’s not really true. They play different positions and Eddie also plays the two, so sorry JR.
by Evantime34 on Jun 29, 2009 12:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree with all your points except slightly with #1. Few fands have cared about the wife beating since Kidd left NJ.
But he’s not a great fit. I suppose you could play the 6-4 Kidd at shooting guard and as the backup point, but if Rondo and Kidd were in the game together you’d have the worst shooting— but best passing— backcourt in the league.
I could see Kidd going to Philadelphia to replace Andre Miller.
by Brickowski on Jun 29, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What are allowed in a trade?
Other than players, draft picks and cash, does the NBA limit on what other conpensations are allowed in a trade? How about coaches, antiques, Van Gogh paintings, a standium, etc.
by wincelticswin on Jun 29, 2009 3:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HOUSE PARTAY
I love me some KID N PLAY
by VagrantWade on Jun 29, 2009 3:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If we sign Kidd...
then the Rondo trade rumours may resurface again. There’s no way Kidd comes here for 15min per game for the MLE. It would have made sense if the Memphis trade for Conley and Gay had taken place, Kidd would get 30 min and Conley 18.
What we most need is a big and a wing defender. No rumours on Artest for the MLE?
by greenwise on Jun 29, 2009 5:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i think
bibby would be a better option than kidd as far as offense goes. id take either for the right piece. having two points who can get a triple double on any given night would be cool
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
by remembering9ergods on Jun 29, 2009 9:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jones a Mistake
4 million a year for the one-dimensional Jones (who by-the-way looked a lot shorter than his listed 6’6" when he was guarding Kobe) would be a mistake. Call me crazy, but I think there must be about 10 athletic wings in the D League and Europe who could play hard-nosed D just as well as he does and would be happy to do so for the league minimum. Some of them may even have skills beyond their D.
The same or slightly more money could land the vastly superior Marquis Daniels, whose option was declined by Indiana yesterday.
by Tugboat on Jun 29, 2009 9:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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