Doc Dishes on Team Needs, KG's Injury, Rondo's Game
Bill Burt of the Eagle Tribune recently sat down with Doc Rivers, who shared some interesting thoughts.
On what the team needs to do to improve:
Q: So how are your days different now that your season is over?
DOC: "Well, I'm playing golf about four days a week. That's a good thing. I enjoy that. It's also nice to be with the family a lot (at their Orlando, Fla., home). Every time I go to the office I bring out a pad of paper and I put down names and write about how we can get better. ... We have to improve our team if are going to win."
Q: So what are you writing down on that pad?
DOC: "For one, we have to take better care of the basketball. If you looked at our numbers we were third or fourth in the league in field goal percentage (actually second at 48.6 percent) yet we were 28th in turnovers. Two, our transition defense has to get better. Off the edge, in transition, we gave away too many easy baskets. Three, our bench has to get better as a group, positions we have to improve. We need a backup big (man). We need a backup for Paul Pierce. And we need a backup for Rajon Rondo."
On the importance of a good bench:
Q: The one thing the Celtics hit on last year was bench guys you brought in, including James Posey, P.J. Brown and Sam Cassell. Is it safe to assume that the Celtics have to do a better job at filling those roles in 2009-10?
DOC: "Absolutely. We have to hit on backup positions. That's the key to our season, the subtle moves we make. One mistake we made was our locker room and our bench got too young too quickly. I think it made Rondo and Perkins younger. When guys had questions in the locker room, you had Sam, P.J. and Posey, plus the Big Three.
"It's more difficult when nobody is there in the second group. And when Kevin (Garnett) went down it really came down to the Big Two and now those are the two old guys, minus Scal (Brian Scalabrine). That's way too young."
On Big Baby's free agency:
Q: Big Baby is a free agent. Will you re-sign him?
DOC: "He has to do his business, and see what's out there, but hopefully we'll sign him. I think we have a great shot at signing him. He fits in well with our team. I know he loves being here. He's just a young guy who needs to mature. We want him back."
On KG's injury:
Q: There was talk that Kevin Garnett might have returned to the lineup if the Celtics beat Orlando. Is that true?
DOC: "I said it before and I'll say it again. I don't think there was any chance. He didn't do surgery, so there was always hope. But I moved on. I know Kevin wanted to play and he did everything in his power to return. But I saw him walk. I saw his gait. He wasn't playing. I knew that."
Q: What did the Celtics miss most not having Garnett?
DOC: "You can yell all you want on the bench, but it's not the same. We missed his leadership. We also weren't the same team on defense. Our defense gave up 102 points a game in the playoffs. Last year we gave up 88 points a game. That's a 14-point difference."
On Ray's playoff performance:
Q: What did you think of Ray Allen in the playoffs?
DOC: "It's unfortunate for Ray, not having Kevin. When Ray comes off pin downs with Kevin, nobody is helping. But with Baby, Perk and Scal it was different. What also hurt was Rondo's guy, on every pass, ran to Ray. Think about it, Ray had Rondo's guy running at him. He had Perk's guy running at him. They didn't fear those guys on the offensive end. If you look at a lot of Baby's shots, it was his guy going to Ray. Clearly, not having Kevin, affected Ray the most."
On Rondo:
Q: You mention three All-Stars, but wouldn't you consider your point guard Rajon Rondo a fourth All-Star?
DOC: "Rondo still has a lot of growth ahead of him. As great as his numbers were, as great as he played at times, guys still fell off him to double team. Guys don't fall off an All-Star to help with someone else. He has to make them pay for that by hitting his shot. Rondo has a chance to be a great player.
"But you have to do it every day in the playoffs. The first five games of the Chicago series Rondo played at an All-Star level. But the rest of the playoffs you could make the case that he really struggled. He had good rebounding numbers. He also had some good assist numbers at times. But at the point guard level you have to be able to score and get your assists. When teams play the Boston Celtics the one guy they are going to help off of is Rondo."
Q: Does Rondo understand that?
DOC: "Yeah, I think he does. Rondo has a healthy ego. But he understands he has to get better on the scoring end. He has to hit the open shot. But knowing him and how competitive he is, and how tough he is, he will work on that this summer."
There's a lot of other interesting stuff in the interview, as well, so I'd encourage everybody to read it.
It's hard to disagree with anything Doc says here. First, of course, he's absolutely dead-on regarding the deficiencies of the team. The most frustrating part of last year's team, other than the injuries, was the propensity to turn the ball over. Second, of course, is Doc's desire (as has been expressed previously) to add a big man, a three, and a backup point. I couldn't agree more. As Doc says, "We have to improve our team if are going to win."
Also, of course, Doc is right about Rondo. For our team to be at its most effective, Rondo needs to get better, especially in terms of his jump shot. That will open things up not only for himself, but also for Ray, etc. I like the fact that Doc is going to continue to push Rondo; the kid has way too much talent not to maximize it.
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Very good coach
Doc is candid and smart. YOu feel good reading his assessment. No sugar-coating. Wonder if he means to say that Marbury is not a backup PG candidate. I’m really hoping one of the three Summer League guys turns into a player next year (Maybe two but that’s getting too lucky)
by Wildblu1 on Jun 7, 2009 9:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There isn’t a solitary thing Doc says in the interview that isn’t spot on.
We have some work to do this summer beyond getting healthy.
by CoachBo on Jun 7, 2009 10:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so loge starbury
I guess he’s gone from that comment. I was hoping that he would stick around but I dont see it after this article. Its nice to see that he pulled in an entire season of CB posts and condensed them down into a few paragraphs. It makes me feel confident after reading this. I believe they are going to make the right moves and get us #18
by angryguy77 on Jun 7, 2009 10:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not necessarily
Doc said we need a back up PG, but that doesn’t mean we will find one we like and can afford. At the end, Starbury may stick around longer than expected.
by 33-32-00 on Jun 7, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And this is why Rondo is expendable
No idea on how negotiation extension with Rondo is going. But if he plays hard to get, and someone else wants to give him Chris Paul money, he is expendable if it brings in the right player. I’d much rather take my chances with Amare or Bosh the next 5 years if these guys were workable in a 3 way deal and signing Celt extensions.
You can win a championship with a fairly average guard if you have the big guys. Fisher from the Lakers is an average point guard in this stage of his career. Ahlston is not a top 10 point, probably not even top 15.
I am happy with or without Rondo and we can and should get #18 next year either way. I just don’t want to overpay for a guy who is going to be a drain on the budget and keep us from getting needed championship parts (bench) like was happening this year. I know there is hope he attains a decent outside jump but to want or pay him max money we a “hope” isn’t good sense in the long run if you can have an Amare/KG/Perk front line. Pierce can even shift SG/SF and there a good free agent points available.
Celts will regret when the big 3 fade away and Rondo still has shooting and/or attitude problems with the Celts. Rondo’s primary focus should be hanging banners. If not, his value is sky high, get an awesome player in return and let the shooting/attitude risk be somebody else’s concern
by brianceltfan on Jun 7, 2009 11:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't see how you can construe Doc's comments to mean that Rondo is expendable?
Where does he say anything about contract negotiations? Or that Rondo’s shooting and/or “attitude” problems are here to stay?
“Rondo has a chance to be a great player.”
“He understands he has to get better on the scoring end. He has to hit the open shot. But knowing him and how competitive he is, and how tough he is, he will work on that this summer.”
Sounds to me that Doc and Rondo’s primary focus is on hanging banners.
by Pengaloo on Jun 7, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WRONG
I love when people come along and start saying, ‘yeah, you can win a championship with an average point guard.’ Yes, it’s possible…if you have Kobe Bryant, or Tim Duncan, or DWade, or Shaq…as great as the Big 3 are, they’ve slipped a little from that level…as such, you NEED a good-to-great point guard to put it all together and put those aging superstars and up-and-comers in the best position to succeed….that’s where Rondo comes in…he’s Tony Parker to KG’s Tim Duncan, or Chauncey Billups to Ray and Paul’s Rip Hamilton and Rasheed Wallace…unlike superstar teams which were led to championships by one-in-a-generation talent like Jordan, Bryant, etc., we’re a TRUE team….and on TRUE TEAMS it’s an absolute necessity to have a good-to-great point guard…somebody in the Billups/Tony Parker mold…that someone is Rajon Rondo and our championship hopes rest as firmly on his shoulders as they do on the Big 3. Never underestimate the difference a good point guard can make…
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Jun 7, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doc know exactly what the management and the players have to do to improve this team.
It’s great to see that he is in the same mindset as we are (or vice versa), now I just hope that we’ll have a good bench before the 2009-2010 season tipoff. And yes, unfortunately, Doc’s comments suggest once again that Marbury won’t be back but I still have hope that he re-signs with the Celtics.
by Drucci on Jun 7, 2009 11:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I must have missed the part where he implied or stated Marbury wont be back. Going back and listening to the interview he did right after their elimination by Orlando, he moderately addressed the situation with BBD and Steph. I believe that his thoughts were BBD would be more LIKELY to stay with the team than Steph based on what “we [the team] find out there” vs Davis “what he finds out there.” It doesn’t seem to me that the Celtics have closed the door on Marbury either way.
What is fun, and not meaning disrespect towards anyone here, is the tone of surprise in fans when they think the coaches and front office are “aware” of the same “deficiencies” that they are. I thank God every day that Danny and Doc run the team and not fans. I don’t discount the idea that fans can be knowledgeable about NBA talent (players), and the NBA game to a certain point, it’s just hysterical when somehow we think we know more than the people who do this for a living. Doc and Danny know more than any of us collectively on how to evaluate talent and judge what players would be best to bring in compliment the core.
by tmcdon on Jun 7, 2009 11:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Right to a point
What I said was in jest. But we here have said many of the samethings that all year that DOc just said here. As far as knowing more about this than the “experts” I would say yes sometimes fans would do it better. Look at how many franchises in all sports there are that have been horrible for years with the same owner. I’d be willing to bet that you could drag a guy out of the stands and he would do a better job than Al Davis. Need I say anything about the Lions? I also believe that there are people on this very blog that could do a better job runnig the Clippers.
by angryguy77 on Jun 7, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doc and Danny know what's needed- the next step is doing it.
Both Doc and Danny know what went wrong this season- obviously, the injuries and lack of proficient back-up when needed at crunch time. There was virtually no way [we] they could have competed for the championship this year without a healthy K.G. and a bench that wasn’t a shadow of last year’s group. Let’s look forward to some of those problems being taken care of during the off-season, and once everybody comes back healthy, it’ll be forward march to banner no.18.
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by lygafe on Jun 7, 2009 12:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m on board with Doc’s plan. I’d just like to know how Danny and Wyc are going to make it happen.
As for the comments on Rondo, I think those just indicate how Doc (and the team) rates him at this point. He’s a level below an all-star. I’m sure they will look to pay him accordingly.
by Berkcelt on Jun 7, 2009 1:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Level below?
Maybe, technically, since he hasn’t made the All-Star game yet, he’s a ‘level below.’ But, realistically, he’s better than Devin Harris, Jameer Nelson, or Iverson, and just hasn’t been recognized by what amounts to a popularity contest.
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Jun 7, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better? Maybe 3 out of every 5 games, on average. Some consistency wouldn’t hurt.
by kozlodoev on Jun 7, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How inconsistent? Is he terrible one day and good the next? Or is he pretty good one day and spectacular the next? Nearly averaging a triple double for the playoffs shows consistent production, IMHO, where the lows aren’t that low and the highs are pretty high.
by snively on Jun 7, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Doc more or less had it right: he was at a high level the first five games of the playoffs and then he was hit or miss. The lows were actually pretty low (his play against Anthony Johnson comes to mind) which was hard to believe after what he did early on. He appeared to be rattled by the whole not a flagrant foul on Brad Miller fiasco and never really recovered, imo.
Personally I’m not too worried about it. I think he’s going to grow from it.
by Berkcelt on Jun 7, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he’s inconsistent. He’s passive with the basketball at times. His jump shot is atrocious. His judgment with the basketball varies quite a bit. His defensive effort is at times unacceptable. He’s got the skills and the feet to keep guards in front of him and the strength to get through picks – and he doesn’t do either consistently well.
Amazing how some people insist this guy is Bob Cousy when he’s clearly a work in progress. I applaud Doc for the comments today. Keep pushing him to clean up the flaws in his game.
by CoachBo on Jun 7, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I think I’d take him over those guys as well, but the point I’m reading into this is that Rondo hasn’t arrived, not so much that he hasn’t had the “honor” of being an All-Star. He’s not getting the top salary slot (at least not this summer), and based on his performance so far he doesn’t deserve it. Harris tops out at $9.3M and Jameer at $7.7. If he gets a deal somewhere around there, I think that’s pretty fair.
by Berkcelt on Jun 7, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
of course, doc or any coach wants a full cupboard. but me the fan wants doc to play people like billy walker some more and even gabe.
by nazzbo on Jun 7, 2009 6:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The article mentions Doc taking a hiatus
Think Doc might take a break after next year so Tom Thib’s could assume head coaching duties?
I know it is wild conjecture, but based on what Doc said about his family needing him, it made me wonder.
by VtCeltics on Jun 7, 2009 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You had us ...
at wild conjecture.
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by Big_Easy on Jun 7, 2009 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree re the turnovers. they absolutely killed us this year. Pierce and ray allen were the main culprits and I’m not sure how you fix that other than tell them not to handle the ball so much. SOme of that comes back to Rondo giving up the ball instead of looking to make a play. MY least favorite play is a Pierce iso with him at the top of the key. the moment he starts to dribble and spin I see a turnover coming and more often than not, that’s what happens. the way to avoid TO’s is with better ball movement and smarter passing. Ray allen committed some of the worst TO’s I have ever seen in the playoffs this year- especially against Orlando. It would be nice if we had another player in our front court with good ball handling
by Red2 on Jun 8, 2009 9:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Doc was on point with Rondo.
He almost averaged a triple double during the Chicago series yet we almost got eliminated. Usually when a point guard gets a triple double his team usually wins easily. He dominates the ball because he is practically not a threat without it. He makes Pierce and Ray Allen look bad.
He is a good rebounding guard but he doesn’t compliment the Truth’s or Ray’s game. He just can’t shoot and it will take him a few more years to get a consistent jumper. By that time the Big 3 might be retired already.
by garypayton on Jun 8, 2009 11:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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