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No Need For Sheed

I'll pass.

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I'll pass.

The Celtics are looking for a veteran big man to play defense and maybe provide some scoring punch for the second unit.  Rasheed Wallace is available as a free agent.  The Celtics should be interested in him, right?  Not necessarily.

I'll preface this with this fact:  I'm not a Rasheed Wallace fan.  I don't like him.  I respect what he's done in his career and I'm sure he'll be playing for someone next year, but I just hope it isn't the Celtics.

Yes he's tall but he's not an inside scorer.  Yes he's played defense in the past, but he's been downright lazy and uninterested lately.  Yes he can be a game changer, but too often (even during his peak) he had bouts of invisibility.  He's been described as a great teammate, but he also selfishly continues to rack up technical fouls at the expense of his teammates.

If that isn't enough, consider this analysis of his current makeup:

I remember watching Ben Wallace in his final year with the Pistons, thinking ‘He’s lost it. He doesn’t have the same explosion anymore.’  Same thing this year with Sheed, though Sheed’s at an age where you expect that. He just doesn’t have the mobility to be a special defensive player anymore, as he was during his first 3 or 4 seasons in Detroit.

He may not even be an option anyway, because at least one source is indicating that he wants $8M (or he's threatening to retire).  Take that for what it is worth but one source has the Cavs offering him $10M a year for 2 years.  If true, that's way too rich for our blood.

Which is fine by me.  I understand the allure of a former All Star big man hitting the open market, but I'm just not interested.  What do you think?

 

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I'd rather have McDyess...

As an aside, I think it’s very unlikely that Rasheed and the Cavs are having contract negotiations already, since that is blatant tampering.

All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino

by Roy_Hobbs on Jun 8, 2009 10:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LIkewise. I don’t think Sheed has much left in the tank, and I don’t have any use for his effort.

by CoachBo on Jun 8, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jeff every time you don’t want a player for some reason he ends up coming here and succeeding, so I’m glad you picked Sheed for that part :)

by Rondoo on Jun 9, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

really?

what are the other examples of this?

I wouldn’t really consider Marbury a success (I was originally against the idea but came around)

"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V

by Jeff Clark on Jun 9, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

for sheed

he hasn’t lost it… he is just not motivated…

with KG’s intensity and a coach he can respect, Sheed will have 2 more good years left in him! 10 million for 2 years and call me a believer!!

by Celtics3 on Jun 8, 2009 10:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

In regard to KG's motivation factor...

… did he motivate Mark Blount and Ricky Davis in Minnesota? I think way too much is made of that alleged skill. Players need to be self-motivators; if they need their teammates to pump them up to care about winning, I don’t want them here.

All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino

by Roy_Hobbs on Jun 8, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Patrick O'Bryant

enough said

"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V

by Jeff Clark on Jun 9, 2009 7:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blount, Davis, and O'Bryant have never been motivated.

You can’t say the same about ‘Sheed. There’s a competitor laying dormant in there somewhere. Whether KG can wake it up is an open question, but Rasheed Wallace is in a different class from the above-mentioned slackers.

by PJ Martinez on Jun 9, 2009 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

non sequitur

enough said.

the poll results are almost shocking…almost.

God bless and good night!

by BrickJames on Jun 9, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely, Roy. I’ve always thought Garnett’s influence in that area is completely overrated. Based on talent, that trade should have been lopsided for Minny.

by Finkelskyhook on Jun 10, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well it wouldn't...

be just KG motivating. It would be KG motivating on a Title contender…

I mean I could go many different ways on who to bring in, but I think Sheed could work here.

by winsomme on Jun 8, 2009 10:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

McDyess

I’ll take Sheed’s frontcourt mate from last season, Antonio McDyess, ahead of Sheed himself. He actually might be more productive than Wallace next season and he will cost much, much less.

by Greg Payne on Jun 8, 2009 11:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ben Wallace Comparision

All Ben Wallace had was his athleticism, he blocked shots and rebounded because of his long arms strength and ups. Sheed is a 7 footer this won’t go away with age, his shooting ability won’t go away. He might not be in his prime but we wouldn’t be able to afford him if he was, what he is, is a good back up big man who can hit the open shot and play some defense.

by Evantime34 on Jun 8, 2009 11:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

his 42% shooting ability that won’t go away with age? no thank you …

by k96ps02 on Jun 9, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Disaster!

35 years old…major headcase…slow…unmotivated….collects technical fouls….does nothing but launch 3`s, despite standing 6`10".

Yeah, he`s quite a catch!!!

by Title 18 on Jun 8, 2009 11:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Two things are for certain if we sign Sheed.

Firstly we will lead the league in Technicals.

And secondly we will be the only team to have a player with a random grey patch of hair on his head.

by DeStefano2004 on Jun 9, 2009 12:04 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’ll take Sheed over McDyess any day. Sheed is just as good in the paint as Garnett. It’s too bad that Wallace will probably resign with the Pistons.

by Brickowski on Jun 9, 2009 1:21 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sheed Or McDyess

I’d be happy with either. Different games though. I like McDyess a little bit better due to the fact that he has a nose for the boards.

by Tradetime on Jun 9, 2009 1:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you Jeff

As much as I like Sheed, it’s been obvious this year (and maybe even last year) that he doesn’t have this fire anymore, and that he is far way too lazy and inconsistent to be a good player on a championship team. He wouldn’t fulfill his role on the bench so I’ll pass on him, especially considering the amount of money he wants (according to the rumors).

McDyess, on the contrary, may be less skilled physically but he shows up 100% every night and he’s got a good jumpshot, good postmoves and he can rebound and defend well. He would be a perfect sub for KG, bringing the kind of same intensity off the bench. Plus, he probably won’t return to Detroit after his horrible experience last year, and he wants a ring badly so the Celtics should be a good destination for McDyess.

by Drucci on Jun 9, 2009 6:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I've always been entertained by Sheed...

….but he’s long past his prime.

C’s need defense, low post scoring and vet leadership. Sheed gives them very little of that.

by LuckyNumber07 on Jun 9, 2009 6:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No Sheed, no McDyess

And none of the former Pistons, including AI.

by 33-32-00 on Jun 9, 2009 7:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sheed or Mcdyess

I’d be happy with either one.

I think Sheed would actually get motivated for a title again if he came but I agree that Mcdyess is already motivated and would cost less.

I’d prefer Sheed for his offense but since it would take probably the full MLE to get him, Mcdyess would be a better deal if they can get him at 3-3.5 mill leaving some MLE to get another decent backup on the bench. Use the LLE on another solid player off the bench and the C’s will be in good shape for next year.

by slamtheking on Jun 9, 2009 8:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You Would Be Crazy....

Not to sign Sheed if you could get him for the MLE. He is a legitimate 7 footer, excellent post defender and is a perfect fit for Rivers’ offense with his three point range.

Sheed is still an all-star caliber player. McDyess isn’t.

by Brickowski on Jun 9, 2009 8:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Last season, McDyess out-performed Wallace...

Check out the per 36 numbers, and tell me who the better player was: Link.

Also, of course, stats don’t track effort, which is a good thing for Rasheed, since he didn’t show any. Since they’re the same age (34), I’d take the one performing at the higher level.

All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino

by Roy_Hobbs on Jun 9, 2009 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can’t remember the last time Sheed had a 10 rebound game, or scored from the paint for that matter. I’d rather have Dice. He can hit 15’ jumpers too, without giving away 4quarter techs. Plays better D at both front court positions as well.

by D Dub on Jun 9, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You love

’Sheed, and as I recall, have always wanted him on the Celtics

Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk

by mcpu40 on Jun 9, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Minimal Interest

I’m a big fan of Sheed’s but I think he’s on his last legs, so I don’t have much interest in him.

I’m not even convinced he’s worth the MLE at this point in his career. I much prefer McDyess or Zaza for that money.

by Who on Jun 9, 2009 8:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Couldn't Disagree More

Sheed’s career has been marred by serious motivation issues. His talent has always been there, and I’m strongly of the opinion from watching him this year that he still has enough gas in the tank (the way Sheed plays, he’s not getting banged up and bruised everynight).

That being said, a one or two year deal to play here and play a 6th man role for this team would stamp us into the Finals. Give Sheed a minimal risk contact to come in and win another ring before he goes out. When his team is winning, Sheed plays better than ever, and I’m sure the veteran atmosphere on this team is one he would thoroughly enjoy being a part of and buying into the “ubuntu” camaraderie (remember when he bought the whole team championship heavyweight belts after Detroit won a few years back?). I do also feel like him and Doc would get along very well, Doc is the perfect candidate to bring the best out of Sheed and his interesting personality.

When he wants to play, he can be unstoppable on offense. All he needs is an earful from some savvy veterans to get in the post and an earful from KG to not miss another defensive assignment.

Sign the guy up…not to mention the entertainment value he would bring to the Garden on a nightly basis. He’s a boatload of fun to watch, and when he tries hard, you can’t help but root for him.

by dorschrm on Jun 9, 2009 10:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

KG & 'Sheed

Are nearly the same age…’Sheed being about 20 months older.

Will we have this same question about KG this time next year?

Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk

by mcpu40 on Jun 9, 2009 11:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think folks are starting to question KG’s future right now aren’t they? He only played in 57 games this year and averaged a mere 31.1 minutes per game when he did play. Wallace played in more games and averaged more minutes per game than Garnett did this past season.

Since coming to Boston Garnett has gone from playing 39 minutes a game to 32 and then 31 minutes per game. His numbers across the board have steadily declined the past two seasons and one has to think they are not going to get any better after all of the issues he had with his knee this spring and summer.

by Doublee on Jun 9, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ra over McDyess because more than anything, we need a back up who can play some Center. I don’t think McDyess can do that.

by droopdog7 on Jun 9, 2009 11:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, Jeff

For finally saying what I’ve wanted to see on the front page for a while now. I want no part of Rasheed Wallace. He’s become disinterested and his defense recently has been atrocious. I think his on court attitude is horrible and he would be a bad influence on Perk, who, unfortunately, already is quite good at racking up personal fouls. He doesn’t need someone teaching him that its kay afterall.

by nickagneta on Jun 9, 2009 11:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

None of this stopped them when it involved Marbury.

by Brickowski on Jun 9, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Marbury

was a lot cheaper

"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V

by Jeff Clark on Jun 9, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

After seeing how much Wallace has declined over the last few years, especially last season, it’s frightening to consider the Celtics signing him to a multi-year contract.

If they do sign Sheed, I’m hoping for a one year deal.

by Who on Jun 9, 2009 11:45 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agree to Disagree

I’m a big fan of Sheed, and have been an advocate of him coming to Boston. Could it be as with many players around that league that you fall into a rut, (granted some players do not perform up to their capabilities), and some players out live their welcome. What would be the harm with signing him to a 2-3 year contract. Many players get motivated upon going to a new team.

Sometimes players see moves by management and question managements decisions. Case in point involves the Iverson/Billups trade. From a Detriot standpoint that trade proved to be disasterous. Many Detriot players questioned that trade if I might add.

Many players on that Detriot team lost their muster sort to speak and once you do that, your whole team gives up. Detriot also has gone through many Coaching changes within the last few years. Their hasn’t been much stability as much as we praise Dumars for a job well done.

With Boston, Sheed would have a new perspective coming to Boston. I would say he would be more energized coming to our situtation. With him coming here for a 2-3 year deal, it would also allow Danny to trade him, salary cap options down the road.

I would welcome him very much so

by Ancient Red on Jun 9, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

For right price, why not?

I wouldn’t pay him more than we re-sign Big Baby for. When I guy’s in mid 30’s and his game is in decline it keeps declining. It doesn’t bounce back . PJ Brown was the exception. Joe Smith was the pertinent example. Many of the bloggers here would have wasted several million on Joe because of what he was a year or two ago.
But, he would be a nice 10 mins guy and I don’t think he’d need star treatment. a good back up for Perk and I’d vote for him over McDyess

by Wildblu1 on Jun 9, 2009 6:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i am not a sheed man’ never was. too much baggage and too many miles on the tires. we have too many graybeards already.

by nazzbo on Jun 9, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

YES, there is a NEED for SHEED!

I really geniunely like all Celtics fans like me, but just get a little irritated with certain opinions. This is one. Why would we NOT want one of the best, legitimate centers in the NBA. Especially when we CLEARLY need another center. Sorry Mr. Jeff Clark, but a guy like Glenn Davis or Leon Powe (if we resign them) isn’t going to do it, because they are not centers (I suppose maybe another “bring Al Jefferson back” post is on the way.)

Can you imagine Garnett and Sheed on the front court. Basketball is a big man sport. We need a big man. We need Sheek and he can probably be had for the mid level exception.

by gpap on Jun 9, 2009 11:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

youve called amar’e and sheed both true centers wow

by rjmurph55 on Jun 16, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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