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Sheed Rumors Gaining Momentum

KG needs Sheed?

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KG needs Sheed?

I gave Tanguay a hard time about how he delivered the rumor a day ago, but now the rumor is picking up steam.  Marc Stein is reporting:

Boston has emerged as the hot new entrant in the race for 'Sheed, with my colleague Ric Bucher from ESPN The Magazine crediting Kevin Garnett for not only convincing Celtics personnel chief Danny Ainge to enter the bidding but leading the Celtics' lobbying efforts.

Orlando, San Antonio and Dallas all have strong 'Sheed interest as well

Tanguay also reported last night that Sheed would be in Boston for a visit soon.

Ken Berger of CBS Sports (I'm not familar with his work) is reporting the following:

Rasheed Wallace’s camp was expecting calls early Wednesday from the Celtics, Cavaliers, and Spurs, among others. Kevin Garnett, a league source confirmed, was working behind the scenes to recruit ‘Sheed to Boston. Wallace’s attitude – which obviously can be both good and bad – and his ability to stretch the front court would be assets to the Cavs in their quest to fortify their pre-draft acquisition of Shaquille O’Neal. Wallace will have to factor in whether anyone comes forward with more than the mid-level exception. He also is said to be wary of the strong egos in the Boston locker room, not to mention the fact that the Rajon Rondo situation needs to be resolved. The Celtics cleared a spot for Wallace by not extending a qualifying offer to power forward Leon Powe, who is coming off major knee surgery and became an unrestricted free agent.

If true, this is an amazing example of irony:  Rasheed Wallace being concerned about strong egos.

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Looks like Orlando is out of the Sheed sweepstakes too!

http://www.floridatoday.com/article/20090701/SPORTS16/907010320/1002/SPORTS/Magic+may+not+afford+big+man

“In other words, any hopes Magic fans had of seeing a major upgrade at power forward in the form of Rasheed Wallace, Antonio McDyess or Brandon Bass likely are gone because Orlando almost certainly won’t have the financial wherewithal to attract such players.”

Now it’s just down to San Antonio and Boston I think !

by rondohondos on Jul 1, 2009 7:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They also traded for Tank Carter. That should ensure VanGundy’s firing and a major downgrade for their team. Anybody with title aspirations need not look to Orlando.

by iowa plowboy on Jul 1, 2009 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is good news

I would like to get this done soon so we could move on though…

by rickyfan3.0... on Jul 1, 2009 7:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

. He also is said to be wary of the strong egos in the Boston locker room, not to mention the fact that the Rajon Rondo situation needs to be resolved??

There is no Rondo situation to be resolved. He is under contract for this year and if they sign Sheed they definitely aren’t trading Rondo because they are going for it now !

by rondohondos on Jul 1, 2009 7:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Situation

Is not Rondo being traded. The situation is Rondo being difficult. Which no one should know about but Ainge messed up and went to the media about it in order to lower Rajon’s value so he could sign him for less.

by Evantime34 on Jul 1, 2009 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't get the comment

what strong egos is he referring to? KG, PP and Ray all showed they could get along just fine and check any egos at the door to get a championship. Perk hasn’t had any issues. The bench, such as it is, isn’t an ego problem. Could he mean Rondo with that statement? If so, a player of Sheed’s status should have no problem handling a teammate that young with only 3 years of experience.

by slamtheking on Jul 1, 2009 7:50 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

here's my guess

Maybe Wallace is indicating he might not want to be in a locker room where he’s not the big dog. With the Celtics, he’d be coming off the bench. In the locker room he’d be a lesser light, and discouraged from expressing himself too freely. (I’d avoid the possible problem, and go get Gortat.)

by no kidding on Jul 1, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

So the Ainge-Rondo PR fiasco is now extending to our ability to sign FAs? That’s a bit of an unforeseen consequence. Hope something like that doesn’t come back to bite us-that is, beyond pissing off Rondo and his agent.

by illantari on Jul 1, 2009 7:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Between the Lines

I think alot of the Rondo Ainge stuff was about Danny and Duffy negotiating. I think after the palyoffs Duffy called Ainge and said “hey Danny you see what Rondo did for you in the playoffs” " We want a Max contract buddy" I think Ainge fell off his chair and said" Are you kidding me" “No way has Rondo earned a max deal” and therefore Ainge used the media to devalue Rondo’s contract value and the pg position overall instead of his trade value. Danny knows he would have a tough time replacing Rondo.

by Petro03 on Jul 1, 2009 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mixed Feelings

I think there is a very very good chance Sheed will be in Green. The only problem I see here is not so much of a basketball issue. I think basketball wise he would be a good fit as a sixth man and he will get his minutes. I think Boston will be a high energy and intimadating team with KG,Wallace,and Perk. But the EGO part of this could be a concern. KG is a alpha male, Perk is a alpha male and yes Wallace is a alpha male personality. Can these guys co-exist? I think they will because of thier Age KG and Wallace are veterans who have rings but Wallace is known to implode even at this mature age

by Petro03 on Jul 1, 2009 7:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Perk/Wallace

Lets not forget that at the begining of the BIG era Wallace dissed the Celtics saying they will have trouble making the playoffs with Perkins at Center and Rondo at the PG position. When the C’s won a championship in 08 Perkins locker room interview he basically called out Wallace’s comments and rubbed it in. So yes I do believe there could be some minor Ego issues but I still feel it would be a risk worth taking

by Petro03 on Jul 1, 2009 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

McDyess?

where does this leave McDyess and the Celtics?

He can shoot and has never been accused of being a head case..

by 00dc2 on Jul 1, 2009 8:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agree that I’d rather have McDyess, who at this stage of his career is more productive and much more of a banger.

by Sophomore on Jul 1, 2009 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, we need a guy that can play center effectively against bigger guys like Gasol. McDyess is not that guy.

by droopdog7 on Jul 1, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think Wallace is that guy either. He might do fine against Gasol, but I’m thinking he no longer has the strength, agility, or the motivation to play center against true centers like Shaq, Howard, and Bynum. I’d get Gortat.

by no kidding on Jul 1, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gortat will cost close to the MLE too, if not the whole MLE. Do you want a career backup Center or a legit big man that can spread the defense, rebound and defend? It is clear that Wallace is a MUCH better option than Gortat, that is just crazy talk….

by rondohondos on Jul 1, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Crazy? Did you happen to watch Gorat during the playoffs?

The Gortat I was watching rebounded just fine for my tastes. And his defense was excellent. True, he doesn’t have an offense that will spread the defense, but I’m not looking for that out of my center position (by the way, Perkins doesn’t have that either).

And on the subject of defense, I’m concerned Wallace no longer has the strength, agility, or motivation to play good defense down low against the truly strong centers of our main competition, or against the more mobile strong forwards who start their offense out on the 3 point arc.

by no kidding on Jul 1, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

1988, Rondo, and Ray

I know y’all think I’m obsessed, and you might be right. But I’m sticking with my theme. If we get a viable big—and SHEED would be a home run, Rondo and Ray are safe for the season. Remember Danny thinks 2009 is like 1988, and 1988 proved the Celtics needed another big. So what did the Cs do in 1989? Traded Ainge for two bigs. Hence, my repeated assertion that if we strike out getting a free agent big, rondo and/or allen could be gone. All that changes if we get SHEED. That really would be a coup. Throw in Grant Hill and Marbury, and this team is set to win a few playoff games, say, like 16?

by Black Jack Pershing on Jul 1, 2009 8:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No to Grant Hill

yes to everything else

Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk

by mcpu40 on Jul 1, 2009 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes to Grant Hill

If he is willing to take the Vet Min. The guy can backup both PP ad Ray and is the best option available for the vet Min as a Wing.

by rondohondos on Jul 1, 2009 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No to Grant Hill

The guy can waste a franchise’s money riding the pine with injuries (see the Orlando years)…he is not the best option available for the vet min as a wing, he’s far too injury prone for my taste.

Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk

by mcpu40 on Jul 1, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but he played 82 games last season. maybe he's finally over his problems

you at least cant say he has been warn out by playing too much over his career.
he only made 1.9M last season for 12ppg..

by 00dc2 on Jul 1, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Resolve the Rondo Situation?

It’s been resolved as far as I can see. That’s probably just some crap that Ken Berger threw in. I doubt if it came from Wallace or his agent. Bad journalism.

by Brickowski on Jul 1, 2009 8:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Probably

But I wouldn’t be surprised if Rasheed had reservations about coming to Boston because he didn’t get along with one of our starters other than KG. Or if he had reservations about coming with all the crazy trade rumors.

Hopefully KG was able to smooth that out.

by Fafnir on Jul 1, 2009 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

spot on

journos love throw aways like that

by Brendan on Jul 1, 2009 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Grant Hill and sheed = #18

Sorry but i am pretty sure that if they get grant hill and rasheed wallace resign marbury for 1.5 million without having to dip into the mle money and resign big baby davis they will win championship #18 next year. Guaranteed!!!!!

by jayhovaone on Jul 1, 2009 8:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GuaranSHEED!

by rondohondos on Jul 1, 2009 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Noooooooo!! LOL. I feel like all the ball don’t lie’s and guaranSheeds are going to be a little less funny if he’s wearing green.

(I will still take him tho).

by Berkcelt on Jul 1, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rasheed Dance

Will Rasheed continue his pre-game dance in Boston? I think it would be hilarious he would get a Tommy Point before the game even starts !

by Petro03 on Jul 1, 2009 8:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This only makes sense,

I mean, Danny cleared the way for him to be traded to Detroit so they could win a championship. Now he has to come to Boston to help us win one.

by Prof. Clutch on Jul 1, 2009 8:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The pieces will fall!!

INDEED!!!!!!Sheed and Hill

by jayhovaone on Jul 1, 2009 8:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m kind of scared that they might go after a jamario moon type. Who does nothing but Jump high. Needless to say I don’t like his game.lol

by jayhovaone on Jul 1, 2009 8:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He does plenty

Moon can shoot the 3 ball and play decent defense.

by Evantime34 on Jul 1, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess

I am kind of warming up to the idea of Sheed in green. I mean if Marbury, who didn’t even play all that well, could grow on me, so can Sheed. However, I think Matt Barnes would be a better fit than Hill. Barnes can shoot the three, is more atheletic, and younger. Just not sure if Barnes would take the LLE., but I still think Danny should try to convince Sac-Town to take our pu-pu platter for Nocioni.

by 420celticsFAN on Jul 1, 2009 9:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Also from the Marc Stein

“Boston is another team that has Hill on its radar and more are sure to emerge.” I know that we want him but this is the first I’ve seen that he wants us!

by 17iscoming on Jul 1, 2009 9:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You've got it backwards

That doesn’t say we are on Hill’s radar, it says that he is on ours.

by Berkcelt on Jul 1, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i understand san antonio, but why would sheed rather play in orlando or especially dallas?

by orr on Jul 1, 2009 9:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Orlando did just go to the Finals, no state income tax, sunny weather, and I suppose no “strong egos” (if you buy that). If the money’s equal those are the kinds of things I assume he’d look at. I would add that in Orl. vs. Bos., the coaching favors us—not necessarily in ability but (and it’s just a guess) guys would probably want to play for Doc rather than Stan.

by Berkcelt on Jul 1, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

SHEED, Starberry, and G.Hill

coming off the bench.

Are you freakin’ kidding me?

The excitement level won’t be the same as post 7/31/07, but it will be damn close!

by Black Jack Pershing on Jul 1, 2009 9:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's very unlikely that we could afford Hill.

I love Hill but I fear that his health wouldn’t be so great here in Boston that in Phoenix where they have a great medical staff. Plus, we would probably have to give him the full MLE to get him, which is impossible if we sign Sheed. And Grant is not worth the full MLE.

Here is what Marc Stein said of Hill latest rumors on ESPN :

“The Suns, meanwhile, should certainly have a shot to hang onto Hill, given his close ties to Suns guard Steve Nash — assuming Nash eventually accepts the contract extension Phoenix is offering — and Hill’s affinity for the athletic training staff that has resuscitated his career after some six years of injury misery. Yet if Hill were to receive a full mid-level offer from a contender he likes, Phoenix won’t be trying to match given its well-chronicled desire to keep moving away from the luxury-tax line.”

by Drucci on Jul 1, 2009 9:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Grant Hill will be 37 in October and...

played in 200 games for Orlando, out of a possible 410.

Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk

by mcpu40 on Jul 1, 2009 9:20 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ancient history dude

You keep repeating this, as if you don’t know what has happened the past 3 years. He had some miserable injury history during his prime years, but it appears he has put those issues behind him finally. Could he get hurt? Sure, as could any 37 yr old, but I do not believe his prior injury history is a factor anymore. Besides, he is no longer a 40 min a game star, the C’s only need him as a role player for 20-25 minutes a game, at last year’s salary, it would be a very good buy.

by KJ33 on Jul 1, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i would be far more worried about sheed’s attitude than anything people said about marbury’s ’tude. sheed loves the spotlight and the starhood and if in boston, would be a secondary player, no matter how much he would think differently. i would prefer mcdyess or za za.

by nazzbo on Jul 1, 2009 9:21 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

its a sales job

just have to make being the 6th man glamorous and exciting. sheed coming in off the bench draining a few threes, getting a Technical, and throwing his body around would get tons of love from the fans

by Brendan on Jul 1, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Selling the sixth man in Boston shouldn’t be hard either. Ramsey, Havlicek, McHale, Walton, Ricky Davis…err, James Posey, I mean.

Heck, Walton played one year really with the Celtics and he gets a lot of love from Cs fan still (although somehow I don’t see Rasheed proclaiming himself KG’s valet).

by Berkcelt on Jul 1, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

first of all they are dismantling that phoenix team. secondly he is only going to get a lle contract which is 1-2 million. Plus all he has to do is play 15-20 minutes a game here behind pierce. sheed could back up perk and kg. I do like mcdyess but he doesn’t want to come to boston. Hill would leave for a shot to be with Doc and to get a title i believe.

by jayhovaone on Jul 1, 2009 9:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sold on Marbury and Hill off the bench

a bit too much overlap in the skill set, Marbury is really a luxury at that point, but if you can do:

Sheed : Posey type MLE deal (maybe a team option on year 4, and an ETO after year 1)
Hill : Vet Min
Marbury : max early bird

you’d have to think its about as good as you can get, I’m a big fan of seeing the roster as 5-3-5-2

first 5 are you starters
3 are your key bench guys – i.e. the rotation
second 5 are your reserves – they might see 10-20 on some nights but mostly they are insurance
last 2 are for development

i still see the starting 5 as the best in the game, regardles of SAS, LAL, ORL, or CLE moves.
Sheed, Hill, and Marbury would be a highly talented trifecta – each possibly playing near starter minutes
house, allen, walker, scal, powe (assuming BBD is gone and we bring back Powe and he’s playing by playoff time) features a bunch of flawed players, but guys who each bring one or two skills

giddens and #58 would be the two NBA-DL guys. The roster still affords DA the chance to pickup a big for some combo of expiring guys outside the top 8.

by Brendan on Jul 1, 2009 9:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm sold on Stephon Marbury

given what he showed last year, especially defensively…I think adding Rasheed is enough to hang #18

Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk

by mcpu40 on Jul 1, 2009 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree about

marbury’s play / attitude – was more about fit. hill’s game is dribble drive, short J’s, and passing. that duplicates Marbury, and compliments House. Doc’s system has a lot of secondary movement (after the PG passes it up) so I think it could work. But Marbury would be ideal next to a guy like “Posey 08”

by Brendan on Jul 1, 2009 9:45 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Danny wants 1999-2001 All Stars...in 2010?

Marbury : Please! He proved conclusively that his NBA days are over. Finding a player to replace him will NOT be a challenge!

Hill : He lack the size and length to give us what we need…he`s 37…and Ainge cannot risk spending any more “cap money” on a guy with a such a ridiculous history of injuries.

Sheed : Hate to say it, but I think he`s coming here. The “ideal” would be {if only it were possible} to put Grant Hill`s personality and dedication into Sheed`s body.

by Title 18 on Jul 1, 2009 9:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How would this guy know anything about what Wallace is thinking or not thinking, or what, if any reservations he might have about Boston. Sounds like he took what other media types have been saying and put a minor spin on it. Bucher is sitting there with egg all over his face after declaring Wallace would not go to Boston so he goes out and makes up a “KG pleaded with him.” A huge stinky load. If Boston was an afterthought for Sheed why is he coming to town?

The number one issue for an NBA FA contract is – Money. It is the agent’s job to get as much money from a team as possible. Bottom line. If Sheed at any time feigned he wasn’t interested in coming in Boston (and none of us really have any idea, truly, if he did or did not) it was in all likelihood to let the Celtics know that their offer was going to have to come hard and fast if they were going to win him.

Also, for those in the “No Sheed in Boston” camp, consider this: if Kevin Garnett is indeed as active as indicated in recruiting him and wants him there that badly, that should tell you how much Sheed can add to the team. Garnett is not going to lobby to have a sub par player on the roster to go after another title.

by tmcdon on Jul 1, 2009 10:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Visions of Perk,KG, and Wallace

front line and imagining someone actually trying to score in the paint…

Rondo
Pierce
KG
Wallace
Perkins

That might be a pretty good defensive line up.

"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said

by Birdbrain on Jul 1, 2009 10:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Welcome aboard, Sheed

Be glad when this is a done deal. Title 18 to follow.
Either Anthony Parker or Grant Hill next.

by Tradetime on Jul 1, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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