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Taking Stock of a Wild July 1

Is help on the way?

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Is help on the way?

As expected, July 1st was much more eventful than draft night.  Now that the quiet period has been lifted, we're getting rumor after rumor and breathless updates on everything Rasheed Wallace is doing.  I think I can understand where Ainge is going with all this, but that doesn't necessarily mean I like it.

The Need For Sheed

The big news of the day is that the Celtics are reportedly making a huge push to show Rasheed Wallace the love and recruit him to Boston for the MLE.  It isn't clear how many years the Celtics are willing to commit.  I would imagine it isn't very many given his age, Ainge's aversion to long term deals, and the mere fact that we have to make such an effort to get him to sign with us instead of another team that also has the MLE to offer. 

I get why they are shooting for Sheed.  He's probably the most talented guy that they can reasonably get for the MLE without stretching the contract out several years.  This is classic value shopping.  Besides, he fills a very real need and would seem to fit in perfectly to our system that asks big men to play defense and stretch the floor with shooting.  I just wish it didn't have to be Sheed.  I'll probably grow to like him but I still have a bad taste in my mouth about him that isn't going away until I see him win some games for us.  Even then, I'm pretty sure I'll have a nagging feeling that he'll end up hurting us at some point.

Say It Ain't So Powe

The other big news was the revelation that Powe doesn't appear to be in the Celtics plans going forward.  This I'm much more disappointed about.  I understand declining to give him a qualifying offer because that's guaranteed money.  My thinking all along was that they would give him a partially-guaranteed contract and perhaps even one that had team options for future years.  Instead they told him "Good luck with another team" and explained that they couldn't tie up a roster spot on him.

I'm sorry but ...what?  Last year they tied up a roster spot on Sam Cassell (cutting Darius Miles in the process) so that he could be an extra assistant coach.  You mean to tell me the 58th pick in the draft or Gabe Pruitt have earned a spot over him?  Don't we need more depth in the frontcourt?

And that doesn't even take into account his personality.  We need more Leon Powes in this world and on this team, not less.  It was bad enough losing Ryan Gomes and Delonte West but at least we got something for those guys.  Leon Powe is pretty much the definition of a class act and he had a direct impact on beating up the Lakers in the Finals last year. 

I understand that Ainge is focused on the bottom line, but losing him cuts to the bone.

Star-divide

Assorted Other Stuff

  • Robert Swift makes sense to me as another low-risk, high-upside move.  Worst case is Patrick O'Bryant.  Best case is a decent 7 footer off the bench.  He'll have an unpaid tryout during the Summer League.  I'm willing to bet he'll be on the roster by training camp.
  • Can't hurt to give Mike Sweet-tooth a shot too, but I'm much less optimistic about his chances.
  • Sounds like the Celtics are looking at Grant Hill and Anthony Parker as options to back up Pierce.  No surprises there.  Hill likes it in Phoenix and Parker could probably get more money overseas, but maybe one of them will take a shot at a title with us.
  • Thankfully Eddie House is back for another year.  He knows his role and plays it well.
  • Not sure what to make about the prospect of Marbury re-signing.  He didn't exactly impress in his short stay last year.  His attitude seems to be in the right place and he still has talent, but can his body still do what he used to be able to do?  We'll see.
  • The Pistons signed up for Charlie V and Ben Gordon.  Not sure if that was worth dumping Billups for, but whatever.
  • After we (presumably) sign Rasheed and maybe one other player, I imagine Danny will largely sit back and see which free agents don't get big money and have to settle for a shot at a ring.  Baby is in that group.

Interesting mixed bag of a first day.  But one day does not an offseason make.  We'll see if we're in better shape at the end of the summer than we are now.

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the powe part of your article

is right on. well said Jeff

by tommyfan on Jul 1, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sheed and Anthony Parker would be nice additions. I wonder what would happen to the young guys and TA/Scal.

by Champzilla on Jul 1, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice recap

Send DA over to my chimp cage – I got some poop to throw.

My question is Iverson far behind in joining the Celtics.

This day makes me sick. Am I going to be a T-Wolves or Pacers fan come October?

Keep #44 out of the rafters

Is it Soup Yet?

by Master Po on Jul 1, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Get out we don't need fans like you

You root for the Jersey not particular players if you are a true fan. I am not saying you can’t have favorite players , but to root for a different team just because a player you like is no longer on the team is just ridiculous .

by rondohondos on Jul 1, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

easy there Kia Rondo

I have been a Celtic fan for 41 years and I may have shoes older than you. I am not going anywhere…..The Celtics will always be my team.

For the people who know me in here, they appreciate my humor. But for you to tell me to get out – now that’s funny – hahahahahaha

Is it Soup Yet?

by Master Po on Jul 1, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hes just a kid, be nice.

by Champzilla on Jul 1, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea that was hilarious , you are a regular Richard Pryor. I am sure you have shoes older than every Celtic fan on the face of the earth with a sense of humor like that.

by rondohondos on Jul 1, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rondohondos, earlier today you were calling my comments “crazy talk,” and now you’re telling M. Po to take a hike. You should definitely work on your civility. Try making the effort. We like to keep the place classy. You’ll also find people may take you more seriously.

by no kidding on Jul 1, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it is entertaining.

by Champzilla on Jul 1, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I apologize if I offended you or Mr Po , guess I just don’t get his brilliant sense of humor thats all .

by rondohondos on Jul 1, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sense of humor or not

he has the right to his opinion without someone telling him to “get out”

respect

"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V

by Jeff Clark on Jul 1, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You guys are a little harsh

Rondo, not to speak on your behalf, but the ‘get out’ seemed to refer to get out of the Celtics fan base, not this blog. If someone was seriously going to root for another team because the Celts didn’t bring back a player who wouldn’t be able to play until Feb at the earliest, I think that’d be a fair reason to ask them to leave the fan base.

by Raz75reb on Jul 2, 2009 6:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so now you are the judge and jury of who can be a fan and how they go about it?

"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V

by Jeff Clark on Jul 2, 2009 7:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

feel your pain Po

it’s subtraction by addition…we keep Sheed from LA,Cleve or Orlando…if he’d retire i’d agree with ya but ????then we sign him

by Motown on Jul 1, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Master strikes again

Po, you made me cough up a lung with the poop cage comment. Hilarious!
But I will say, if we had a bench of Sheed and Parker/Hill, you can just hand-deliver that title to us now. And Marbury? Good gosh. What a bench!!!
Sheed’s personality I hate. But he would be awesome for us. He’s a competitor, I’ll give him that.
Three years ago, no way. Now, heck yes, cuz he’s affordable (I hope) and hungry.

by Big_Easy on Jul 1, 2009 9:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The counter move...

Cleveland is after Artest.

by Little D on Jul 1, 2009 9:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yo Po

whutt upp, you old dog?

Hope all is well . . .

by Black Jack Pershing on Jul 1, 2009 9:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow … I didn’t realize so much had happened in the last day or so.

by Who on Jul 1, 2009 9:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Powe

Great comments. I am still holding out hope that DA decides to re-sign Leon in August or at another time before he catches on with another team.

by SCBirdman33 on Jul 1, 2009 9:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not convinced

Rasheed Wallace would start for Cleveland, Orlando, San Antonio, Houston, etc.

He would have to come off the bench for Boston. It could be too much to ask.

by Tugboat on Jul 1, 2009 10:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Big Fan of This Move

Signing Rasheed Wallace would fill our greatest need, and would eliminate any re-signing of BBD. Both pluses in my mind.

I highly doubt ‘Sheed will be slacking on this team and in this environment. His talent level and positional fit far exceeds what we’re used to seeing from any bench player who plays significant minutes.

I’m hoping Danny pulls the Theo Epstein, but instead of thanksgiving dinner he shows up with fireworks & a 6-pack to spend the 4th with ’Sheed.

side note – how cool would it be to have the big 3 show up and take you out.. SOLELY to convince you to join them? lol.

by TomHamilton30 on Jul 1, 2009 10:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Anyone seen the complete summer league roster?

Nick Fazekas really the only new addition since last update, but I am very excited. I was a huge fan of his at Nevada, I’d love to see him stick although he probably would never contribute much. But hey, another 7-footer that can stretch the floor, def can do more than Robert Swift in my opinion

by Silhouette on Jul 1, 2009 10:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Automatic league record

. . . in Technicals. With R. Wallace around, Perk will look like a choirboy. Think the refs hated the C’s this year?

I already miss Powe. Can’t he take a “desk job” while he rehabs? I hope for his sake that he isn’t done, that his knee recovers and that he can keep being the kind of guy kids should look up to.

As for the rest, Wallace included, it’s all a little anticlimactic. No stunning acts of brilliance or complexity in bolstering the C’s roster, just another attempt to get a discount on a flawed player. I’ll admit to being mildly interested in Swift, but barely.

by Thruthelookingglass on Jul 1, 2009 10:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How manny walking wounded do we have to carry?

Does my memory fail me when I think I remember Rasheed doing a dissapearing act against us in last year’s final playoff games against us? Does he have that tendency? Maybe Im totally wrong on this.
With respect to Powe. I’m a total fan of his but maybe Danny is considering: 1. Perk has a recurring bum shoulder than can go bad at any moment of the season. KG’s knee is showing the pains of age, nothing can guarantee this will not happen again. TA has another ailing knee which may betray him at any time. You think we can feel at easy with Powe’s knee, when that dude has a history of knee problems going back to college. I mean, do we keep packing our team with players whose limbs can betray them and us at any time, including when we might need them most?? Then we have Scal’s head problems. Geeeesshhhh. It never ends!!!!!!
Its time to get younger whenever possible. Apparently Danny will not go after Powe before exploring some other options; maybe when Powe is ready to come back, assuming he will get back on his horse, Danny will consider resigning him if he is still available and we need his strong inside game. Its a chance that danny iswilling to take at this stage of the proceedings. Danny has made some bad choices during his tenure; maybe not signing Powe now is one, maybe not. Its a calculated risk. I wont hold this one against him.

by Reyquila on Jul 1, 2009 10:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

not much being said about eddie reupping. he had a stellar season and played his heart out and i am glad he’s back. leon is not gone yet. he is a free agent and will be a cheap one at that. if he can get mote than 7 g’s somewhere else, the c’s did him a favor.

by nazzbo on Jul 1, 2009 10:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Give Danny credit...

Did you see any of the other 29 GM`s take a chance on Leon…and give him his opportunity of a “life-time”, a couple of years ago? NO!

Do you think we`ll see any of them do it now that Leon is a free man? UNLIKELY.

by Title 18 on Jul 1, 2009 11:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You mean to tell me the 58th pick in the draft or Gabe Pruitt have earned a spot over him?

It isn’t so much about earning. It is about what a guy can do going forward. Contracts this summer are for 2009, 2010, etc. Not for the last 3 years.

by Last Train on Jul 2, 2009 12:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It is highly, highly unlikely that Lester or Gabe make any sort of impact on the team this year. Leon’s rehab scheduled him to be ready by mid-season; knowing his work ethic, I’d bet the house that he will be ready by then. I think that we could have at least given Powe a reasonable offer, because he could have helped us later in the season and in the playoffs.

by misterx2day on Jul 2, 2009 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mike Sweetney

Was actually a really solid offensive player with the Knicks, and decent with Chicago but Skiles never gave him much of a chance.

by Tradetime on Jul 2, 2009 6:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Here's hoping he pans out.

I was a huge fan of Sweetney when he was a Hoya. I hope he’s young enough to get it back together. A Davis-Sweetney frontcourt would be pretty beefy w/no hops!

by Raz75reb on Jul 2, 2009 6:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

how man guards will be on the roster?

right now, not counting lester hudson or Marbury we have 6 guards on the roster. I can’t see us carrying more than 6 espcially since we just lost leon from the front court and will likely lose Mikki Moore as well. If we re sign Davis and add wallace or some other front court player ( Gortat, Pachulia etc) that gets us to 13. I sort of think Danny wants Marbury and Hudson on the roster and maybe swift as well so one or two players from the following group are likely to be let go , traded etc: T Allen, Veal, GIddens, Walker or Pruitt. We need a small forward way more than we need another guard.

by Red2 on Jul 2, 2009 9:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

all about improving the bench

if you bring davis, wallace, eddie, Marbury and walker off the bench that might not be a bad second unit. I’d like it better if I knew Walker could shoot but it’s not a bad lineup. Certainly better than what we put on the floor this year. Swift will be this year’s POB. I’d love to get parker and dump tony allen but who wants tony allen? I’m anxious to see if Giddens can actually play basketball. I’m also anxious to see hudson play

by Red2 on Jul 2, 2009 9:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

rasheed

obviously rasheed is not the perfect player. he’s not a great rebounder or passer. but i think he is by far the best of the available candidates to fill the ‘long big man off the bench role’. he is a very good interior defender with his length and ability to use his body. he is an elite team defender who communicates on defense. these two aspects are things that nobody was able to give us off the bench last year, and i think if we get rasheed, our team defense, with either him or KG on the court at all times, will be the best it has ever been.

Offensively, what one thing our center MUST be able to do off the bench? Hit the 17 foot jumper. It is a major part of Doc’s offense and it will be there all the time. PJ Brown was huge for us that way and Mikki Moore hurt us by not being able to hit it. Big Baby took enormous strides this year and the main reason was his ability to hit that jumper. And Rasheed is tailor-made for this role. He is very good at knocking down the mid range J. He is also an outstanding pick setter. Mark my words, Eddie and Ray will see more open shots if we get Rasheed, and we know what happens when either of those guys has time to shoot their 3 pointer in rhythm. Money!

So if we get Rasheed, our defense is again the best in the league, our offense off the bench can suddenly flow because the pick and roll is working and the other team has to honor Rasheed’s jumper. And Rasheed, despite his on court outbursts at the refs, has been a great teammate wherever he goes. Honestly, if we can get Rasheed, I think we might be the frontrunner to win the title. The only other thing we need is somebody who can give Pierce a breather off the bench by playing some defense and hitting the open J. Man, it sure would be nice if Billy Walker could grow into that role.

by duaneoch on Jul 2, 2009 10:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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