get outlaw for TA and Gabe Pruitt’s unguaranteed deal. throw in cash. this will mean the same different to Utah, as they’ll cut Outlaw anyway.

reminds me of the time Reggie Miller decided not to joing KG and co., which lead to use picking up Posey

Let’s looka t Barnes. He’s nothing special but he’d be solid off the bench. What are our chances?

how about scalabrine? i hear he’s available…

Sign Barnes today..Before we waste anymore time..

Like mentioned above Joey Graham may be a good option. I remember liking him out of college but havent seen him much in toronto but one of the links that were posted today the guy seemed to love what he did even though it didnt all show up on the stats all the time.

I was always of the impression that Barnes was a terrible defender. I haven’t seen him a ton, and I know he can score, but he doesn’t seem like someone who could guard a LeBron or Kobe even for short spells. Maybe its a product of the teams he’s played for (GS and PHX) but I don’t think he fits the role. Anyone seen him more than me and disagree?

As much as I wanted him, my petty desire to see Tanguay fail is satiated…

Watch, that’s what will happen and he will say oh no I never wanted to leave the Celtics. Mark my word he will come back to them and say he wants to play and get a ring once he finds out there is no market for him.

I hope I’m wrong, but my gut is telling me something else

Easier to swallow than him going to NY
We’re pretty much screwed at SF now though, unless Angie can pull off a miracle trade

What would you guys think of trading TA/Scal for either Vlad or Posey? Posey’s deal lasts 3 yrs and Vlad’s lasts 2, so those would be the obvious downsides……but…..both would be capable backups for PP. Thoughts?

in this market, you have rondo or allen to trade to yield anything remotely meaningful. any scrub roll up trade will get you like in turn. if ainge could package some permutation of scal/TA/Pruitt/walker etc…he would have done it a LONG TIME AGO.

so this is when the rubber meets the road

Mike-Dub

Thats what I thought about Antoine Waker too…..ya never know.

Let Billy Walker learn from one of the best…

I haven’t heard many people mention Ime Udoka, and his numbers and minutes were both down last season with Roger Mason Jr. and Michael Finley taking up most of the time in SA. But I like him. Good defender, a high 35-40% 3pt shooter, and he’d be 32 at the start of next season with two seasons in San Antonio already under his belt.

Jones is a more athletic option. Very good defender and slasher who has a limited perimeter game (remind anyone of a certain OK State Cowboy we know really well).

Will Milwaukee buy Bowen out? If so, I’d like him at the bi-annual $1.9 for 1 year.

But I might prefer giving the minutes to Walker or Giddens and using the bi-annual and the veteran minimum to get another big guy and a back up PG. My guess is Detroit offers Baby enough that the C’s won’t match it. That leaves just 3 big guys plus Scalabrine. Maybe add Brandon Bass, Rasho Nesterovic, or one of the Collins brothers for that $1.9 exception (if they’d take it).

Then I’m a big fan of either Tyronn Lue or Lindsay Hunter at the veteran minimum to back up Rajon.

Should be interesting.

If Walker can’t be a star in summer league, I doubt he can be a backup for 15 minutes.

in the NBA….this doesnt hurt my feelings

Welcoming back Wally.

He’s the best unrestricted free agent available at the moment at the sg/sf position.

in a sign and trade for Tony Allen, Giddens, and Scalabrine?? would be nice lol

It’s fun to play GM but not one name mentioned above who is gettable is any better than what we’ve got. A very good point was made that neither Walker nor Giddens is burning up the Summer league for 1-3 Boston but if the coaches feel there is a player there they’ll go to camp with the team we’ve got.

Out of an {gr}ANT HILL!!!

Matt Barnes, Marquis Daniels, Kleiza, or even Joey Graham – all great fits for the Celtics. Yet, all of them are in the middle of their careers and will not take the LLE. It’s not even worth talking about them.

Forget about the something-for-nothing trades involving TA, Scal, and our younguns.

Let’s face the facts: Grant Hill was our only shot at a true impact player at that position this off-season. Period.

What’s left? Danny can use the LLE to sign an older, bigger PG like Flip Murray or Damon Jones who can play alongside House and guard the 2 on defense. The Vet Minimum can be used to pick up a Juwan Howard or Chris Mihm (a stretch, I know) to add another big body as BBD insurance.

Unfortunately, Doc is going to be forced to use a combination of Scal & TA to back up Paul. But, with Rasheed, House, and a strong back-up PG on the floor, this wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world. We don’t need TA to touch the ball…EVER.

Consider how many games we won last year with an awful bench. Rasheed changes that completely because now House will get more open looks. Add a tough-nosed scoring PG like Flip Murray and you would light year’s ahead of last year’s bench.

I think we’d be alright.

I think back up PG is more important than back up to Pierce. Eddie at PG can’t very well pass to Eddie for the catch and shoot, and Pruitt doesn’t excite me and seems to excite his coaches even less. Hudson, well, maybe Danny’s done it again but the odds don’t favor him scoring again, esp low 2nd round of a bad draft. I just don’t think Tyron Lue is the answer and he’s kind of funny looking.

As for Pierce, I’d sign Baby and then you’ve got a bench of Rasheed, Baby, Eddie, Scal, and one of TA/Pruitt/Walker/Giddens. No coookie cutter replacement for Pierce but a pretty good team. We need to get young guys real playing time and I don’t think they’ll blow too many games on us until mid season when we look again at whether they’ve held the fort or we see who’s out there. There’s just no one good out there now.

i’m not a big grant hill man; age and injury mostly, but he was bad mojo for doc before and why not again? i really liked quinton ross but he’s gone and i did not see anything to jump at with walker and giddens in the summer league, thus far. so danny better have heckuva plan b or c because this roster needs work.

.Grant Hill is a career loser
in the NBA….this doesnt hurt my feelings

a word? Why can’t he just have signed? Oddly, the word “resigns” means the opposite of “re-signs.”…….it’s Friday.

Trade Big Baby along with the expirings of T. Allen & Scalbrine for Gerald Wallace + filler. I’m sure Charlotte would like to save some money & he’s the ideal type of player we need off the bench. The salaries are pretty close to matching.

We are lucky Grant didn’t sign with us. This team needs people who want to win and get a ring, Grant obviously doesn’t care about winning at all.

I hear Antoine is down to 325.

It doesn’t seem like he will get the money he thought he would and teams seem to be staying away from restricted FA’s. I hope that happens. Also, are we overconcerned about get someone to specifically sub for Pierce. Adding Wallace has given this team tremendous flexibility with it’s current roster. I think there will be ways to get Pierce off the floor for 10-12 minutes a game. Adding Wallace gives us increased scoring so Scals could sub for Pierce and concentrate on defense for that time. I know there could be a quickness issue of Scals defending small forwards, but Scals is pretty good at figuring out a way to defend different types of players.

Barnes and Hill split minutes with the Suns last year (Barnes averaged 27 Minutes per and started 40 games). He averaged 10 points, 5 rebounds, and 3 assists. He’s 6.7 and is tough as nails. He would fit in nicely with Sheed in the 2nd unit. He is a free agent.

I was never confident that we would get him but Hill staying in Phoenix is a real head scratcher to me/ he has no shot of winning a title there. why would he do that 99% of all players in his position would have opted for the chance to win a ring. Even stephon marbury went for the ring Grant Hill? I don’t know who you are!