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Summer League Wrapup

Summer League is over and perhaps the biggest news was Lester Hudson breaking his finger.  However, Marc Spears has some positive things to say about Gabe Pruitt, who was fighting for a roster spot (the Celtics can still cut him and not be responsible for the last year of his contract.

Gabe Pruitt got his important offseason off to a productive start this week in Orlando, averaging 10.2 points and 4.8 assists for the Celtics' summer league team. He wrapped up the tournament yesterday with 13 points and nine assists in a 92-79 win over the New Jersey/Philadelphia entry.

"The main thing I needed to do was be consistent and this was a good chance to showcase that,'' Pruitt said. "Early in the week we had a lot of turnovers in a couple games and I take that personally, me being a point guard and handling the ball. So, I tried to take care of the ball better. But I had a chance to really play the point and show what I can do.''

"He shot well, he did a good job getting into the paint and taking care of the ball,'' said Celtics assistant coach Mike Longabardi. "Russell Westbrook [of the Thunder] was definitely the best point guard here, but you can make an argument Gabe was the next guy. He's just got to continue to work, continue to stay ready, and we'll see what happens.

"He's been in the league two years now, he's played in NBA games . . . After Year 1 coming into Year 2, I thought his body improved. He really did a good job with that.''

Also, if you care about summer league stats, here's a quick rundown.

The Celtics finished with a 2-3 record in Orlando. Nick Fazekas led the team in scoring (13.4) and rebounding (6.2). J.R. Giddens averaged 11.8 points and 4.2 rebounds and was named to the league's All-Star second team . . . Chris Lofton broke the league record for 3-pointers, hitting 15 on 25 attempts over five games. The old 3-point mark was 12, held by Keith Bogans (2003) and Josh Davis ('07). "It doesn't really matter in summer league,'' said Lofton, who shot 17 of 22 from 3-point range in a 61-point performance in Turkey last season. "I shot pretty good but there's always room for improvement.'' Said Longabardi: "He looked like Eddie [ House] out there tonight.''

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Hopefully Giddens is above Walker in the depth chart at the moment. He really has more to offer to the team at the moment.

by BudweiserCeltic on Jul 11, 2009 8:22 AM EDT reply actions  

You can have this moment

I hope Walker is ahead of him by opening night—he, unlike Giddens, has the ability to play without the ball.

by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Jul 11, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Fazekas has more to offer than both!

by Silhouette on Jul 11, 2009 9:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Fazekas sucks ass… so no.

by BudweiserCeltic on Jul 11, 2009 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

hopefully, pruitt can deliver-he has had some chances and is a good athlete. let’s hope for the best.

by nazzbo on Jul 11, 2009 9:07 AM EDT reply actions  

I liked what I saw from him in the last couple of games… him attacking the paint. I think it will be enough to keep him around, we’ll have to see what opportunities Ainge finds out there with FA’s. What I like about Pruitt is that he can guard SG, so he can play with House no problem…. it’s hard to find PGs that can do that. Pruitt still isn’t a good PG, but if he attacks the basket, protects the ball, shoots the ball well he should be fine because he can play a bit of defense.

by BudweiserCeltic on Jul 11, 2009 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Meh

Pruitt didn’t show much in the way of playmaking ability, and that’s what our second unit is going to need more than anything.

Giddens couldn’t hit from outside (unlike what I saw of him in the D League), but has progressed, unlike Walker.

Karl played the right way all the time, but unfortunately he doesn’t have NBA playmaking ability either.

I’d give Rogers an invite to training camp; I saw some flashes.

No one on that team is going to substantially help the Cs next year.

"People don't understand, if you can't live the rest of your life off one year in the NBA, you can't live off 21." -- Keon Clark

by Eeyore III on Jul 11, 2009 9:57 AM EDT reply actions  

If you were simply looking for Pruitt to show you some playmaking ability, you would be dissapointed. I didn’t expect him to do that because I know he’s not really a good PG. But I like how he was aggressive the last couple of games, attacking the paint and finishing well. I think that’s something we can work with. But we’ll see what other options are out there.

by BudweiserCeltic on Jul 11, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, he was somewhat more aggressive ...

but I still think his default state is “passive.” Even with his NBA career on the line, it seemed to take a coach holding a blowtorch to his butt to get him temporarily into a higher gear.

I’d be pursuing Ronnie Price if I was Danny.

"People don't understand, if you can't live the rest of your life off one year in the NBA, you can't live off 21." -- Keon Clark

by Eeyore III on Jul 11, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have to disagree on mulitple fronts

Pruitt’s playmaking ability, while not at a Rondo level, clearly outshines anyone else we have on the 2nd team. I thought Pruitt showed good PG awareness during several pick-and-pop plays with Fazekas. Paired with the infinitely more talented Wallace, he could do some good playmaking on the 2nd unit.

Giddens hardly made any jumpers all week. Worse, he played with the ball EVERYTIME he got a pass. He never simply took a standstill jumper (when, say, Pruitt got him an open look). He’d either jab step 20 times, or dribble between his legs 5 times before hoisting a contested jumper. If he had simply taken the shots that showed, he would have shot a higher percentage.

Walker has progressed, at least if you consider learning to play one’s role as progression. Unlike Giddens, who needs to dominate the ball to be successful, Walker showed that he could get to the rim w/a dribble or two, score in the post, and run the wing for transition buckets. Walker doesn’t need the ball to be successful—he relies on ball movement and good point guard play and therefore fits more into the team concept and will be able to make an easier transition to an actual NBA rotation.

Karl was a chucker plain and simple and a complete disaster at point guard, where he was forced to play after Hudson got hurt. Personally, I would have used Giddens as the emergency point—as mentioned above, he needs to dominate the ball to be successful and as such playing him at point might be an idea going forward. Giddens has also show a decent ability to drive and dish, and that puts him way ahead of Karl…

Caveat: we can’t put much, if any, weight into this last week. It was only summer league. It doesn’t matter that much in the grand scheme. I would have loved to see Pruitt/Giddens/Walker dominate this week, but domination isn’t indicative necessarily of NBA-success. As such, I think almost all pronouncements in this thread should be taken with a grain of salt.

by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Jul 11, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

AGree with MEH

I wholeheartedly agree, no one on that summer league team is going to help us this season. I would almost think we’d get more from Robert Slow, I’m mean Swift, at least he’s 7 Ft tall and can guard the basket.

The only value I see from Gabe is as an expiring contract.

I see Walker, who I really like, Giddens and Hudson rotating to Maine in the D League. Heck, I could even see Danny trying to find a place for Hudson overseas and bring him back next year.

by badax33 on Jul 11, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

When I watched Kevin Rogers, I thought if he had a right coach, he would be a decent player. He could benefit it from KG/Rondo. He is a solid team player. Baylor University where he went beat a lot of good teams. I would like to have another good look at him.

by GreenGrizz on Jul 11, 2009 10:03 AM EDT reply actions  

I didn’t see anything on that team that will help this ballclub any time soon.

by CoachBo on Jul 11, 2009 10:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Same here. A disappointing summer league.

by Who on Jul 11, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fazekas

BudweiserCeltic is right. Fazekas sucks… if by “sucks” he means leading the team in scoring, rebounding and, although I’m eyeballing this, shooting percentage. It would cost the Celtics pocket change to take a flyer on Fazekas, who is 6’11" and 24 years old, and they’ll have plenty of space on the roster. But really, why would they want to do THAT when quality players like Stephon Marbury are out there shooting 30 percent and turning the ball over several times a game? Fortunately, Danny’s a pretty smart guy. Hopefully he’ll invite Fazekas to training camp, where he can “suck” some more by continuing to rebound and score with high efficiency.

by BerriHead on Jul 11, 2009 10:20 AM EDT reply actions  

He’s bad defender. His only real asset is that he can shoot the 3 a bit. I wouldn’t put too much stock on a big man shooting a high percentage in Summer League though. More interesting than Fazekas was Rogers.

by BudweiserCeltic on Jul 11, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

He has height, can rebound, and can actually step back and hit a jumper. Combine that with the fact that you can sign him for nothing, I don’t see how we lose. I’d love to have a guy like that on our bench, but maybe I just have a thing for productive players. Everyone else seems to wanna go for the “upside” or “potential” guys.

by Silhouette on Jul 11, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fazekas is a very nifty scorer

He’s a very fine shooter from range and has all the junk shots—floaters, runners, finger rolls, etc., which makes him a very capable scorer. He also have surprisingly rebounding prowess and decent anticipation.

Sadly, he’s a terrible defender and probably one of the more un-athletic players you’ll ever see in your lifetime.

by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Jul 11, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was pretty dissapointed in Walker i thought he would be able to average atleast 15ppg during the summer league and have atleast one 20 point game. He averaged double figures but he never seemed to try and take over the game which may be a good thing because he could be trying to play within the same role he would play during the regular season im not sure.

Giddens played pretty well he played some good defense made a few decent passes but he seems to miss some easy shots. If he can continue to improve his shot/free trow percentage i could see him getting time this season. He played very well in the DLeague last year i believe he had 18ppg so he is able to score if he needs to.

When Hudson was out there ill admit i liked him more than Pruitt but because of the broken finger it was hard to really see how good he could be. Up until the last game Pruitt didnt show me much but he was pretty good the last game racking up a few assists and not turning the ball over.

by adesilva on Jul 11, 2009 10:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Although Walker didn’t show much, I wouldn’t be so down on him at the moment solely because he was suffering from some back injury.

Giddens certainly has to improve his free-throws, that’s just about the only real thing that bothers me from him. I can leave with his shooting though. As I’ve mentioned before, I think he should focus on draining those corner 3s like Bowen.

by BudweiserCeltic on Jul 11, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

From what I saw of him, Lester Hudson played like a PF beast at PG. He plays the same kind of insect-link annoying defense that rondo played, but with serious muscle. I don’t think I ever really saw his offense click (he really didn’t get to play much), but he has a sweet jump shot and a quick slash. He really looked pretty good.

Judging from this kids defense, which was pretty terrifying and ferocious, I think Ainge has a thing for him. He is a bruiser, and would fit in with the Celtics very well. He has better ball handling skills than house, and way better defense. I have a feeling that he will get invited to camp, and out plays Gabe. Let’s be honest Hudson obviously has way more raw talent than Gabe. Gabe knows it, which is why he is making his last stand. This kid will be playing with a broken finger during camp.

by stevenfuzz on Jul 11, 2009 11:34 AM EDT reply actions  

I'd like to see that

Hudson is someone who is easy to root for.

by VtCeltics on Jul 12, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

This team needs some solid backups for the 2nd team.

They have Wallace and House and Davis if he re-signs, but as far as guys that can change a game this seaosn, that’s it really. I say get a couple more not-so-expensive decent 2nd teamers, and then use the 3rd string slots for guys like Giddens and Walker, Hudson, and maybe that guy Lofton. I like Fazekas too. He is a big guy who can produce, and he is young too. He might turn into something. You can’t expect those 3rd teamers to help you in 2009, but why not? Most 3rd team guys never play anyway, so why would you waste it on some guy who is NEVER going to be much and has already shown he is NEVER going to be much?

by correcttitle on Jul 11, 2009 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Hope we have a sign and trade

I hope we find a taker to unload some of our excess like Scal and Tony Allen. Would like to open up some spots on the bench for some of these younger players like Hudson, and maybe one of the summer guys like Lofton, Faz, or Rogers. Those guys on the end of the roster rarely play anyway. making room could also mean keeping both Walker and Giddens, and maybe even a spot waiting for Powe.

Anyone want to try and take a guess at a 15 man roster at this point? lol

by Staubach on Jul 11, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

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