Get To Know Marquis Daniels
by Jeff Clark on Jul 18, 2009 12:15 AM EDT
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We'll be getting to know him very well soon enough, but for now, here's some scouting reports on him.
Daniels is 6-6 but handles the ball like a point guard and has played there at times, including last season for the Pacers. He has a great feel for scoring close to the basket and the size to finish around bigger players, even though he isn't a great athlete. He's shot over 50 percent in the basket area each of the past three seasons, an unusual feat for a guard. Unfortunately, he needs to shoot well from that close in because he's such a poor outside shooter.
When Daniels is going good people say he's smooth ... and when he's not, people say he's coasting. One wonders if he could be a bit more engaged in the proceedings, especially on defense where he appears both soft and somewhat disinterested.
Marquis Daniels has a game that is often overlooked yet should be savored for his ability to contribute in many ways. He does the little things that aren't quantified for the masses but force a little half-smile to burst from the corner of Jim O'Brien's mouth. Things like deflecting the ball on defense (a stat the coaching staff does track and value). Things like knifing into the lane pulling up where no anticipates he should, and dropping in a bucket. The ball appears to hit the rim like a medicine ball and drop.
Strange. How'd he do that? Just Quisy.
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I hope we play him as a 2
And still go after a bigger/better defensive 3
Jeez, you're unstoppable.
Don’t you get tired writing the same thing over and over?
I still haven’t heard your rationale as to why Daniels can’t be our backup 3.
And I guarantee that when Danny speaks about this signing or sign-and-trade, he’s going to say that they expect Daniels to be the first wing off the bench, meaning he’s the primary backup at 2/3.
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Jul 18, 2009 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Excdept he posted carreer highs playing SF last year
I want him playing the majority of the bench minutes at both the 2 and 3.
he is...
Totally getting into his prime.
He CAN backup for both Ray Allen & Paul Pierce when needed.
He is 6’6’’ and has a 6’10’’ wingspan.
If you check this link: http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/?page=avepos&year=All
you will see that is the average for a small forward in the NBA. There are a bunch of larger 3’s in the NBA, but there are just as many smaller ones (ITS THE AVERAGE). He could add a few pounds for strength but he can play the position (and has quite often in the NBA). I know he can dribble but we need him on the wing covering for Allen and Pierce more.
I think we should get a true point guard instead of a “bigger 3.” Daniels has played the 3 just fine, and If Rondo gets hurt we’re in trouble.
Plug him in to
back up Pierce and Allen, and give someone else (Giddens/Walker?) the remaining minutes and that postion will be deep. Now they need Earl Watson.
what about bobby jackson?
he can play the point….jackson and house backcourt…both can shoot 3’s…
by rayallen_35_24 on Jul 18, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
anthony carter...
i think carter is a peskier defender than bobby jackson… he’s also a capable scorer when needed… has mid and long range shooting, passes well, handles well… would be another good 2nd/3rd PG, imo.
Sounds good to me
As long as he shaves his head. That hair is atrocious…and reminds me of Mikki Moore.
I'll take Marquis Daniels..
Over Mikki Moore, anyday. No biggie, man. : )
I like it.
I just don’t like Mikki Moore.
With a work...
on his defensive game… quicker foot speed, improvement on his three shooting, a little bit of improvement on his ball handling, and most importantly with a shaved head NO SAMURAI LOOK he will be a great backup… so if he just keeps working on his game, is motivated, and gets a haircut lol he will be a perfect fit here.
great pick up
danny’s offseason grade just got better. he needs to keep baby now or at least get camby or someone for him
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
by remembering9ergods on Jul 18, 2009 1:15 AM EDT reply actions
rofl.. BBD or Camby
Like they are at all equal. Camby was defensive player of the year while BBD was a below average team defender lol. I know where you’re going with it, but it was written in a funny manner. Almost like saying “If I can’t get a loan approved for that toyota corolla then I had better settle for that corvette.”
by TomHamilton30 on Jul 18, 2009 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
as a UMass Amherst Alum
It would be awesome if they got Camby.
defense?
It says his defense isn’t great, but I remember when he was on Dallas I thought that was the biggest part of his game?? i’m borderline thrilled with this pickup.
Great move by the Celts. There’s really nothing to say other than that. Our wing players are set, unless some really good offer comes along. Time to get the big men set, and maybe a PG, though I don’t see PG being as big a need with Daniels and Pruitt in the roster at the moment. If needed we can use Pruitt’s roster spot for a better PG, but we’ll have to see who’s available.
by BudweiserCeltic on Jul 18, 2009 3:03 AM EDT reply actions
check out the youtube clips...
we got TA eating up his plates of “sal-mon” and Marquis sippin on “red kool-aid”, I think our bench is almost set
He has no youtube clips
Standing up for the little People
PS: I am actually from Boston.
time to get rid of the deadweight that is
tony allen, pruiit, wallker and giddens
by celticinorlando on Jul 18, 2009 8:28 AM EDT reply actions
great move Danny
Interested to see what he does with Indy. Maybe he parlays it into a 3 way to pick up another player – ie: Moon. Time will tell.
I’m thinking they keep Pruitt or Hudson now as 3rd pg and use Daniels primarily at point with House at sg. Danny is not done – he is going to get another wing and re-sign or S&T BBD – perhaps a 3/4 like Warrick would be a good play. And bring back Leon!!! I love Leon Powe
Looking from another angle...
I know everyone has really soured on TA by now, but couldn’t this move be a great thing for him too? I mean we now have 3 scorers coming off the bench, so if we were to bring him in with the 2nd unit, he could concentrate entirely on defense, which would definitely be an asset for us.
I just think it makes sense when realistically we have to know nobody is gonna take that salary off our hands so why not try and make it work with him? Now that he wouldn’t be needed to score with that 2nd unit at all it takes a lot of pressure off him and allows him to build his confidence back up into a servicable player again.
but...
He isn’t the second unit, we just upgraded his position… isn’t this worse for him? Tony could and would (and should) only get garbage minutes. If Tony is still on our team (reports say him and scal are going to Indiana and Daniels is going to get a piece of the extra pie) he probably wouldn’t play over Giddens or Walker (whoever is left).
Warrick??
I would love to see him on the C’s. But can he guard 3’s?? Memphis is under the cap so some sort of 3 way deal with Indy and us could be possible.
IN THE 2010
in the next year of course we will championssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss lets go celtics.
k.perkins
kevin garnet
paul pierce the true
ray allen
rajon rondo
R WAlace
BIG BABY
MARQUIS DANIELS
JR GUIDENS
EDDIE HOUSE
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by kevin garnet its the heart of celtics on Jul 18, 2009 9:12 AM EDT reply actions
I'm definitely very happy with this
This offseason has been much improved from the last one, hasn’t it?! I’m still hoping they can parlay a sign-and-trade of BBD (packaged with TA, etc) for another valuable forward.
Daniels
If Daniels only signs the buy that is huge. We still have trade chips and the LLE. Get another Big and PG.
Standing up for the little People
PS: I am actually from Boston.
Daniels
Better then what most will give him and can shoot the rock. His defence was bad on a bad defencive team. Like Ray Allen before him Marquis will prove he can take directions and take his assignment. Now we pick up earl the pearl watson who was just released by OKC and go for BBD. if BBD goes then I heard that Miami is going to have one too many power forwards(after getting both Odem, Boozer) paging Mr. Udinas Haslem. Haslem is a hard worker and would fill that role perfectly.
Jeffrey M Melhorn
hoopshype has a source that says this may end up being a sign and trade with scal so we can give daniels more than $1.9m. i believe if that happens we will still have the BAE to use on another FA
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
by remembering9ergods on Jul 18, 2009 10:25 AM EDT reply actions
If we are sending scal we are going to need to keep BBD or atleast get someone thats decent to replace him. Scal played really well off the bench in stretches. I dont mind them giving Daniels more than 1.9 but i would prefer if they signed him to a shorter deal anyone know how long the deal is for? I think 2 years would be nice but he may want a 1 year so he can go after free agent money again next year .
agreed
Its kind of odd in that finally finding a good backup for Pierce we lose the #1 backup to the PF position (after wallace). Hopefully when the dust settles it’ll be a complete bench.
by TomHamilton30 on Jul 18, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Big Ben
If we lose Scal, Big Ben should fill in nicely. He’ll probably sign for what we can offer, and even as a shadow of himself he can still do what we need him to do -which is basically be a step up from Mikki Moore. We don’t need him to score, just be a big body in the paint.
Big Ben is done.
Standing up for the little People
PS: I am actually from Boston.
What do you mean done?
Is he retiring?
If you mean just that he can’t play, I disagree. He may be a cardboard cutout of his former self, but he’s signable and could still be fine with 5-7 min a game if we lose Scal. We’re not looking for a starter, not even a 6-10th guy. Just a 4th big.
I won’t argue that he’s still great, but he’s a step up from MM and a realistic option to fill the need if we lose Scal.
by Ritzybeanboy on Jul 18, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
he's been junk
Since he broke his leg. But, as I have been saying. Anyone (including big ben) could fill in the 4th big.
Didn't he start for the cav's last year?
I know thats mainly because the cav’s have no depth. But I think as a fifth big he would be great.
by beantownboy171 on Jul 18, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
If the deal morphs into an S+T
don’t be surprised to see Travis Diener included also. I think he’d be an excellent backup PG. He can shoot almost like Eddie, but has much better ball skills. He’s very small, but in his price range what do you expect? There’s always warts.
"People don't understand, if you can't live the rest of your life off one year in the NBA, you can't live off 21." -- Keon Clark
From what I've read.
The sign and trade is to unload Scan and TA to clear us some salary space to pay Daniels what he wants (and deserves). 1.9 is a little thin for his services.
I dont think thats true
We cant offer more than 1.9 anyway. Its not like unloading Scal and TA puts us under the cap.
from the globe
Forward Brian Scalabrine has been mentioned as part of a possible sign-and-trade setup, which would allow the Celtics to pay Daniels more than the $1.9 million he would receive as an unrestricted free agent. Scalabrine, entering the final year of his contract, will earn $3.5 million next season.
Daniels was supposed to make over 7 million next year. To be fair, he’s worth at least as much as Scal. He was coming off his best season, and is “relatively” young (28).
But my point was it wouldnt be to “clear space.” Scal would be going to Indy to offset whatever deal the Pacers would be signing Daniels to for us.
We arent going to get Travis Diener thrown in. I agree Daniels deserves more.
Sidenote – so we can still use that exception on a PG, right? We’re not using any of it on Daniels – its a sign and trade.
Can if it's S&T
If it’s a sign-and-trade, they can pay him more than $1.9M and it doesn’t come out of the BAE. But I don’t think it’s resolved that it is a S&T, is it?
I´m always late to the party...
but if true, this is a great signing.
Now sign the Baby, and wait for a PG at the trade deadline.
Some clips about Marquis Daniels
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNUVaPP-vQU
Have to worry about his defense.
...
The scouting reports indicate he has sound defense. He is good at stealing the ball or poking it away.
Stealing the ball or poking it away by too much gamble defense. That’s why he’d been killed by Opponent SG (eFG% 0.567) last season.
...
He looks just about as good as Ray Allen on d in this video. One game isn’t exactly a good sample. He was crowding Allen, trying to take away the 3, or get the ball before it got to Allen. Allen was driving in. If I were on the other team, I would want Allen to drive rather than nail 3s.
agreed, great job
Thanks for putting in the work
by TomHamilton30 on Jul 18, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I donnt think we have to worry about his defense at all…he has the ability to be our best perimter defender…noone seems to remember ray allen and pierces 10 year matador defese, now they are both more then adequate.
Ive also seen Daniels do a remarkable job on guys like kobe and paul pierce, so im not worried about his defense, im worried about his health and spot up 3 pt shooting
Great Signing
We should keep Baby. But after that I feel like we have filled all our needs. That’s not to say that another big, a back up pg and another wing wouldn’t help but we don’t need any of those in my opinion.
As far as the back up pg goes, we can have House and Daniels in the back court with Marquis playing the 1 on offense and the 2 on defense and Eddie doing the opposite.
Its really official: Agent: Daniels going to Celtics as free agent or part of trade
Agent Glenn Schwartzman said Saturday that his client has committed to go to Boston as a free agent or as part of a sign-and-trade deal with Indiana.
...
Daniels, to the basket…
..kicks it to Wallace in the corner.
Sheed for the 3.
It’s good!!!
“SHEEEEEED SHEEEEED”
2010 is going to be a massacre.
Nice.
Even more exciting is how those two fit so perfectly on the defensive end for us. Its like two Poseys coming at you, with KG behind them, and one of them can guard bigs.
Nice work Danny
I thought he looked good against us in the Garden this year. Hold onto Scal though. He gave us championship role playing at the end.
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