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Getting To Know Sheed

Get to know Sheed.

Get to know Sheed.

I was pointed to this article in ESPN the Mag by wahz.  It is a very good read and I think portrays Rasheed Wallace in a fair light.  I recommend reading the whole thing but here are some highlights:

"He has all the makings of a great coach. He sees things before they happen." Bill Guthridge, who was an assistant at North Carolina when Wallace came through, sees it too. "He absorbed everything. He'd be listening even if what was said wasn't directed at him. He had great savvy—almost a point guard savvy." Even an opposing coach, Stan Van Gundy, agrees. "He's extremely smart, ahead of every play. He doesn't miss helps or rotations. He knows when it's time to shoot and time to pass. I've never understood why he isn't a perennial All-Star."

Here are some more quotes from the story:

  • Chauncey Billups once told Jim Rome that Wallace "is so good he gets bored playing against some guys who aren't up to his level."
  • Ellerbee says he once warned him never to leave the post. "If I was his coach, I'd demand more. More rebounds, more blocked shots. We need a center, not the other crap." Sheed himself admits, "I wish I would have listened to him."
  • But while he doesn't pamper or pimp himself, he is obsessed with children and charity.
  • If only that Sheed—happy, almost blissful, the way he is during his traditional pregame dance in the huddle—were the only Sheed. Instead, that guy is often wrestled into submission by another who looks hard for conspiracy.
  • Most athletes seek praise and recognition; Wallace loathes both.
  • Fact is, Wallace should be a Hall of Famer, but it's not in him to dominate—to be the once-in-a-generation star his talent supports.

Also, in looking for pictures to go with this post, I stumbled upon this article from 2008 comparing KG and Sheed.  Some interesting comments from a scout:

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"Rasheed is a wild card,'' an Eastern Conference scout said. "He has a wider range of skills than Garnett, and actually I think he's as skilled as anyone in our league. He has more range on his outside shot. In the low post, there's no comparison. The numbers might not show it, but I think he's just as good if not better as a passer -- it's just that Garnett's teams play through him and Rasheed's teams go to him. I give Garnett the edge in consistency of rebounding and defense, but they're both good defenders at their position.

"But it's a mental game for Rasheed to stay focused and involved for 48 minutes, though that's less of a problem with him in the playoffs.''

Garnett and Wallace both have those skillet foreheads -- you could fry an egg on either of them, given the heat of their emotions. What separates them in that category is when and how the emotions emerge. With the former, it is passion and intensity, evident even before tip-off in his head-pounding, resin-tossing ritual that loads and cocks his game like a boxer smacking himself a time or two with those 12-ounce mittens. With the latter, it is temper and fury, which swells up usually in response to a whistle blown or unblown by some non-combatant who nonetheless wields authority over everything Wallace does.

That, as much as anything, is why Garnett will head to Springfield, Mass., and the Naismith Hall of Fame five years after he's done, while Wallace might slip into the anonymity he has seemed to crave so often in his career.

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They really need him,

his attitude, his experience, and his bald spot.

Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk

by mcpu40 on Jul 2, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Interesting read….and I find it funy how the scout in that article compares the 2, and gave the edge to rasheed in that series in 08 – if I remember correctly sheed got dominated (although not enough credit ever goes to perk who didnt let rasheed breathe in the paint, not KG)

but I have always felt this way about sheed myself, back to his days in portland, this guy is as talented a PF in the game, on any given nights hes just as good as duncan, KG, or dirk

by orr on Jul 2, 2009 2:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jeft,

Sounds like you’re actually starting to like the guy…..

With good reason…

by dorschrm on Jul 2, 2009 2:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

jeff, you’re outdoing yourself researching the sheed, like you really think he’s on the c’s way. like you might even be getting to like him a teensy. hope it’s not all for naught.

by nazzbo on Jul 2, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

not ready to commit yet

but at least I know more about him now

"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V

by Jeff Clark on Jul 2, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ellerbee is a smart guy.

His last year coaching/teaching in high school was my first year teaching.

He told me day one “Work them hard. Work them real hard. Work them till you feel bad.”

Anyways, I still think the way Wallace plays makes him the perfect fit for this Celtics team.

by Wide Load on Jul 2, 2009 3:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

one lesser talked about benefit. . .

is that Perk by the time Perk reaches his prime, he will have apprenticed under 2 of the best defensive big men of this era. Sheed has all those little tricks and nuances that he’s picked up over the years. Kendrick, while a superb defender in his own right, could use a little more subtlety in his play. And Rasheed is the right guy to teach it to him.

by MetroGlobe on Jul 2, 2009 3:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The article kept touching upon my main concern - Wallace isn't a center.

Leaving aside the mental baggage Wallace carries around with him at all times… and his questionable conditioning… the article clearly described Wallace’s main problem: he’s a power forward who doesn’t want to play down low. In his wake is a whole passel of coaches who couldn’t convince him to do it.

We need a backup center who can play against the league’s best front line centers. And to me, that guy isn’t Wallace. It’s Gortat, a guy who’s ready, willing, and able to play down low. Gortat’s asking price appears to be the maximum MLE (what is it, $5.5 million?) for four, or maybe even five years. I say that’s fine, since Gortat is only about 25. I say forget about Wallace and his craziness, and go get Gortat.

by no kidding on Jul 2, 2009 4:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wallace is better then Gortat

Wallace has proven he can play against the leagues front line centers….helooooo, hes proven guarding dwight howard (why do you think det has owned orlando in recent years) hes proven against shaq and hes proven against guys like tim duncan

gortat is a nice 10 minute a game player

by orr on Jul 2, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please give me those ten minutes of Gortat’s. I’ll know where to find him. He’ll be under the basket.

by no kidding on Jul 2, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but all he ever really does down there...

…is collect offensive rebounds, create easy buckets for his team, score with high efficiency and defend the bucket at the other end.

I think you can understand why it’s hard tough to see why you’d want a guy like that, no kidding…

-sw

"I didn't go there with the intentions of getting ejected. I went there with the intentions of just telling Kobe, 'You got to relax. You're hitting the wrong person. Don't you know you're hitting Ron Artest?'" -Ron Artest, 05.06.09

by Steve Weinman on Jul 2, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Steve, I’m afraid I’ve embarked on another lost cause. But in ten months from now, I don’t want to hear the whining about how “Ainge should’ve gotten a real center.”

by no kidding on Jul 2, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

By the way, when you wrote, “all he ever really does down there,” I assume you were kidding around, referring to Rasheed Wallace. However, in my book, everything you mentioned, is also done by Gortat. He rebounds, creates easy buckets, scores with high efficiency, and defends at the other end. Except, Gortat can easily be doing that for the next five years, especially the defending part. I haven’t such confidence in Wallace for even half so long.

by no kidding on Jul 2, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, no kidding, it seems I "gotcha!" this time around, though I didn't intend to...

given your plight as resident master of misunderstood sarcasm (and since I feel like I get it most of the time, that’s part of the reason I always enjoy reading your thoughts), I thought you would assuredly recognize my tongue-in-cheek support of your point – I was in fact referring to Gortat, who would have been top-three in offensive rebound rate and top-five in total rebound rate had he played enough minutes to qualify for the leaderboard. He averaged 2.4 blocks per 36 minutes, and he posted a 58.3 percent true shooting.

I’m not necessarily as bothered as you are by the idea of how Wallace’s skill set (not talking about the other issues, yet) would fit with this team, but I know that I’d certainly be in heaven with this Gortat as a backup (at the right price).

I was with you all the way, and ya left me hangin’ this time! :-D

-sw

"I didn't go there with the intentions of getting ejected. I went there with the intentions of just telling Kobe, 'You got to relax. You're hitting the wrong person. Don't you know you're hitting Ron Artest?'" -Ron Artest, 05.06.09

by Steve Weinman on Jul 2, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But guys ...

… we did just sign Robert Swift to our summer league team. So what’s all this worry about having a big man??

;-)

by MaineBleedsGreen on Jul 2, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like one of Wallace’s former coaches said, “I don’t need all that other crap.”

by no kidding on Jul 2, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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