C's Offering Sheed 2 Years (Full MLE)
by Jeff Clark on Jul 2, 2009 2:14 PM EDT
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PrintA league source confirmed this morning that the Celtics were trying to set up a meeting with Rasheed Wallace later today. The sit-down was said to be part of a series of meetings being set up with all of the teams interested in signing the free agent power forward/center. San Antonio and Cleveland — which introduced Shaquille O’Neal as its latest addition today — were also supposed to meet with Wallace today.
According to the source, the Celtics are willing to offer the full $5.8 million mid-level exception, but were only planning on offering the 35-year-old a two-year contract.
Wallace’s friend, Kevin Garnett, has been part of the recruiting effort, but he is not expected to be part of today’s meeting.
Update:
The Globe is reporting that an offer has been made.
An NBA source said that the Celtics offered Pistons free agent F/C Rasheed Wallace a contract using the mid-level exception today during a three-hour meeting in Detroit.
Update 2: Murphy tells us
Though Wallace is fielding these pitches relatively early in the free agency process, teams have been warned that he may take some time before making a decision.
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Celtsfly was right
KG not part of the recruiting team – Celtsfly is now more credible than Wojo!
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
2 years sounds perfect to me if he doesnt play up to potential this year you can always just trade him after this season as an expiring.
agreed
not sure he’ll get much more than that on the open market either
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
Are you finally on board with Sheed signing
I’ve been preaching him to you and everyone about him and that at times he’s misunderstood. He’s a terrific basketball player and he will solidify our bench more so that Big Baby and Powe. Again, Red went after guys like Sheed who were in there last years, thinking that he could always pull a rabbit out of a hat and make them believe what he was selling. Once and if Danny signs Sheed, he will turn his attention to signing Grant Hill if possible and also make signing Marbury easier for 1 year.
That’s all your looking at with this group is trying to get the most that you can out of them for 1-2 years. Your not committing yourself long term
One more thing
Look at like in 1986 with Walton coming off the bench and what that scenerio did for the team. I’m not putting Sheed in Walton’s category, but what I"m saying what he brings to the table will solidify many things for this team on the court and also will give the team a psychological boost
Keep in mind, Walton was a center. Rasheed Wallace is a power forward who doesn't like to play down low.
Wallace isn’t what we need. And the guy we do need, is out there. It’s Gortat.
Beautifiul
C’mon Sheed, come get a couple titles with us!
i dont understand
why every move the celtics make is going to yield “a couple titles” as opposed to one. you build to win a championship, you don’t try to build dynasties.
Nah' mean, nah'm sayin
Wallace was also suspended by the NBA for seven games for threatening then referee Tim Donaghy on an arena loading dock after a home game in 2003. That was the league’s longest suspension for something that did not involve violence or substance abuse.
This is what Wickipedia reports. If that is true, then he just became my personal hero. A sort of Hoops vigilante
I don’t remember ever hearing anything like that. I think it is not true or else you would have heard a lot more about it when the whole Donaghy stuff was going on.
its true
I remember it being reported on ESPN back in the day when Sheed was still with the trailblazers. ESPN reported that he just confronted Donaghy about some stuff that happened during the game, I dont know about the threats and all that stuff. But a confrontation did happen between the two after a game on the loading dock, and sheed was suspended after.
Not to be a buzzkill, but...
Two years seems like the right offer to me, but I bet some other team might overpay for an extra year just to secure his services. To me, San Antonio is in the same “win now” scenario that we are in and might possibly one up us in the years department.
Fair Offer
I dont think somebody comes in there and gives him that 3rd year. The only team maybe would be Dallas to line up with the 3yr deal they gave kid. But it’s a fair offer.
Guess it's going to come down to whether...
He really wants to win another ‘chip or not. It won’t come in Dallas.
isnt gortat headed to DAL?
Dallas would be out of Rasheed stakes then, right? Gortat and Dampier could actually be a useful center tandem, that team might be better than people think. Need something better behind Kidd tho.
Then fix your hair!
That will be $11 million, won’t that be enough to fix your bald spot?
from what I understand
it isn’t a bald spot, it is white hair
and I don’t think it is really that easy to fix (if at all)
I grew up with a kid that had the same thing – he likened it to a birthmark
really isn’t something that seems worth making fun of in my book
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
maybe he can paint in a green shamrock in the white spot ?
by rondohondos on Jul 2, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, the entire right side of my facial hair has been white since it started to grow. nothing you can do about it but dye it and thats a pain in the arse
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
by remembering9ergods on Jul 2, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
3 Years
I’d give it to him…the guys not aging any time soon with the way he plays…he’s got plenty of gas left…
RE- 3 Years
I agree that 2 years is plenty for Rasheed. If he doesn’t like it he can go some place else. I think he can be a great fit in Boston, and I’ve suggested early on that we should try to sign him. But the guy is 34 and isn’t the Sheed he was. I think he can play 20-25 really good minutes a game. Remember that we will need to upgrade every year to compete. We are in the Luxury Tax area and just dumping Sheeds contract will bring back a contract in return. It doesn’t get rid of the contract. Contracts are accumulative, that’s how the Knicks got in trouble. And we still have BBD to consider. Do we want to resign him? There is only so much money!!!!
If Sheed doesn’t take it, I’m sure Danny will look at other options – Marion or Josh Childfres are the only other MLE guys I see.
If we don’t sign Sheed, I wouldn’t mind see Danny split up the MLE for 2 or 3 players – Dice/Gooden and Hill/Barnes and a PG (Jenero Pargo/Flip Murray or someone in the mold).
However, I’m predicting right now that Danny signs Rober Swift – Tattoo parlors in NE have already began new Tat menus.
Sheed owes Danny for his ring!
Sheed needs to sign with the C’s to thank him for facilitating that deal that got him out of ATL and allowed the Pistons to win a title. Gotta factor that in. ;-)
I wouldn't give him 3
then again, a day ago I wouldn’t give him 1, so what do I know?
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
sheed is going to end up in boston or SA
don’t think the cavs are in…seems the cavs want to sign everyone but can only sign one…
Sounds like a fair deal.
I don’t see any other team giving him 3 years for the same amount of money so hopefully between all the same offers he will prefer Boston.
Blessing in disguise
It would be great if Sheed balks at 2 years and the Cs are able to sign Dice to the same deal. I don’t think Dice has any interest in playing another 3 years, so he might be more willing to take it.
Mike
mcdyess might play for the minimum. he did last year. if he really wants to chase a ring then why not try to get both?
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
by remembering9ergods on Jul 2, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
That's just it
McDyess already said he doesn’t want tobe a ring chaser. While things oculd change, that still makes it unlikely that he signs with us.
maybe
if Sheed is here and the way DET has blown things up recently, he may consider moving over here. If he takes vet min (which I can’t see happening, but can’t hurt to ask), having a front court of Perk, KG, Sheed and Dice would be the toughest frontcourt for anyone to deal with. Wouldn’t need to resign BBD.
Not to mention
Sheed is better then Dice. Taller too.
by 420celticsFAN on Jul 2, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Or we could end up with nothing
and we can’t take that chance.
or worse......we end up with POB as our big free agent
while the spurs, cavs and magic all get better…boston needs to add a big time player and 2 mid talent guys
by celticinorlando on Jul 2, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
If need be, go three
Thought I’d prefer two, if the C’s need to go three, they should. There’s no harm in keeping him here through the end of KG’s contract, as rebuilding won’t really start until after that.
3 if need be, we need Sheed
If it takes a third year then they need to give him the third year. He’s the perfect fit. They need him to compete with the Cavs and the other teams (S.A., Orl., etc) who have improved.
By the way, USAToday.com used Celticblog as a refrence. As seen below. I checked the Celtic Blog on Boston.com but they don’t mention the 2 year offer.
Rasheed Wallace F/C Detroit Pistons
Height: 6’11’ Weight: 230 DOB: 9/17/1974 Age: 34
Jul. 2, 2009 – 2:39 p.m. ET
The Celtics are said to be offering Rasheed Wallace a two-year contract for their full mid-level exemption, which is $5.8 million.
He’s also entertaining potential offers from San Antonio and Cleveland, so this situation could be far from a resolution.
Source: Celtics Blog
Lets not forget DA may very well be willing to go to three years
if another team (the Spurs?) matches.
Come on Sheed lets do dis'
If hes signed ill be getting a Sheed jersey for sure. Love his leave it all on the court, loud mouth tuff attitude!!
"....you can't handle The Truth"
Wallace play for $5.8M?
He has NOT played for LESS than $9M since 1997-98!
You really think he`s gonna be happy playing for “chump change”…while KG & Ray are making $20M plus?!?
Not a chance.
You think he's going to go all Sprewell and not play rather than play for $5.8M?
No one’s going to give him more than that – no winning team.
He'll take the MLE or he'll have to leave the league
I haven’t heard any teams with more than the MLE express interest.
And anyway, it’s fair. He’s not as good as he used to be. By the same token, Ray’s going to have to take a big pay cut on his next paycheck, and so are Pierce and Garnett.
the spurs are going to offer him the MLE
the cavs will wait to see about artest and then offer him the MLE…the magic will also…he won’t get more than the MLE from anyone. it is a 2 team race between the spurs and celtics
by celticinorlando on Jul 2, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Sigh
Theres no way he goes for two years.
I guess the Cs are screwed then… :(
why can cleveland sign artest but boston cant?
cleveland cleveland cleveland is all i hear…seems they are going to sign sheed, artest, ariza, mcdyess and kidd…plus sideshow bob
Also
This is the same reason I take what ESPN has to say worth a grain of salt. Yahoo sports seems to break far more stories, ESPN then tries to take credit because they have a larger platform.
by 420celticsFAN on Jul 2, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
i just think they want a kobe lbj/shaq finals they can taste it...i don't fear orlando
without hedo and with KG…vince carter is nowhere near a clutch shooter like hedo…esp if gortatt goes away
by celticinorlando on Jul 2, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Question???
If Sheed dont sign with us It’s posible to sign McDyess and Marrion at the same time.
Do we have the money$$$????
Not likely...
Unless Marion and McDyess are willing to take less than the MLE. But you never know!
celtics offer 2 years for sheed ???
i like sheed but lets not beg the guy if he dosent sign then who cares after what ainge did to powe i hope sheed goes to orlando …
How sad is ESPN
They just now claim “BREAKING NEWS”, C’s offer Shed 2 years for MLE. Pathetic.
with the new notice that he may notice decide on a team for awhile this could be bad news for the celitcs if he doesnt end up signing with the Cs then guys like Marion/Artest/etc that we would also give the full MLE may be gone already leaving us without a big impact player off the bench.
posturing
I think that statement was meant more to see if he could get more years from the C’s. If the C’s offer him enough years he’ll probably take it.
by 420celticsFAN on Jul 2, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
we messed up!
No, not by giving him an offer… anybody who thinks Sheed is anything but a perfect fit is an idiot and doesn’t watch him play…
We messed up by insulting him with 2 years. You offer 3 years right off the bat! 2 years for title runs, he will be productive for at least 2 years. The 3rd year is ZERO risk bc it is a good expiring contract that actually has great value, whether he can play of not!
They saved the 3rd year as their final offer. They should have offered their best and final offer, too passive. Mistake.
Doubt it
There really isn’t as big of interest from other teams in Sheed as originally thought. Cle. isn’t going after him, Orl. doesn’t look to be either. SA is probably our only competition, and Sheed wants to stay on the east coast and is buddies with KG. Charlotte is said to be interested as well, but they aren;t title contenders, so I doubt Sheed really would want to go there.
by 420celticsFAN on Jul 2, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Ariza
is going to Rockets, so if we can get Sheed, Cavs might not be able to pick up anybody that great,
GET THE SHEED DEAL DONE
dont lose him danny
by celticinorlando on Jul 2, 2009 10:13 PM EDT reply actions
Make the move
and sign Sheed, please! And who on earth is Gortat? I’ve never even heard of the guy nor have I ever seen him. Aka…no thanks.
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