Unconfirmed Rumor: Starbury Back?
A blog/website called New England Sports 24/7 is reporting that Stephon will be back in Boston. (link is now dead due to too much traffic that blew up their servers, ...sorry about that - I remember those days)
A source tells NES247 that Stephon Marbury will be returning to Boston, possibly for the bi-annual exception, before the end of August. Marbury is still playing the waiting game to see what other teams have to offer, but he intends on returning to Boston and Ainge has already given him a contract offer.
Here's the part I like:
Now I know you guys are thinking: where’s the link to the other news source? There isn’t one, this information is exclusive to NES247. Marbury will be in green next season playing backup to Rondo. You heard it here first.
That's right. NES247 exclusive. Your time to shine. If it happens, good on ya. If not, ...well, I would think twice about linking to them for rumors anymore. For what that's worth.
For his part, Starbury has been tweeting some love towards Boston lately. So you never know.
Update: StarburyMarbury will be broadcasting live at 9 PM tonight. Go ask him some Celtics questions on UStream.
We did this poll a few weeks back, lets run it out there again.
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I'm not sure if I "want" Starbury back in Boston...
… but I’ll take him back, under the theory that his shooting has nowhere to go but up.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
good call
poll edited – maybe a better barometer of the feeling about him
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
Ugh, definitely a guess so
But if we’re offering more then the vet minimum, no. He needs to prove he’s worth more. He sure didn’t last year. Maybe with a full season to play….
BTW if this happens Pruitt must have been traded or cut, I’m thinking.
Upgrade from Pruitt
who is likely gone in the Marquis trade. I’ll take that especially down the stretch and into the playoffs.
If Eddie wants him, I want him
I’d love to think we have a young gamer in Pruitt so that we didn’t need Marbury but he did work well with Eddie toward the end of season and should be able to do the same with Rasheed. I give it a thumbs up. I thought he would be poison last year and he wasn’t.
If Pruitt couldn't earn any credible time last year.
He’s never going to in Boston. He’s a bench filler.
Marbury
sure is into the GOD thing at least according to his tweets.
by The Real Large James 2 on Jul 21, 2009 7:15 PM EDT reply actions
Maybe we can attribute his better behavior more to that than a strong locker room.
This game took a number of days off my life, but I didn't have anything scheduled.
Who else???
I hope..who else is out there?? He our best option right now and I would like to see KG and Marbury play together. Give him a full season here and he’ll be okay.
There are other options...
No superstars, but players like Anthony Carter, Kevin Ollie, Tyrone Lue, etc. are available.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
I’ll have Marbury over Ollie and Lue any day of the week and twice on Sundays. Carter is an interesting option, but he’s a god-awful shooter.
I wonder about that source,
since they say that Marbury will sign for the BAE, which confuses me. The BAE is used for FAs, right? The Cs can sign a player not on rookie year scale on their own roster for whatever they want, no?
Not marbury
You have to have bird rights on your players in order to sign them to whatever you want. However I believe because we signed him mid season we do not have bird rights on marbury.
by beantownboy171 on Jul 21, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
No...
The most they can give him is a raise of 20% from his salary last season, because he’s a “non-Bird” free agent. However, when you pro-rate the salary, I still think we can give him around a $2 million year without having to use the LLE / bi-annual exception.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
for what this is worth... "the source"
I don’t think Marbury played 60% of his game last year. He can only get better. I like ’em.
Still a great low-risk, high-value move
I still thing Marbury has something to offer, and prove. I was disappointed he didn’t come back stronger last year, but still want to give him the benefit of the doubt. I also think he’s better than most of the others out there.
You crashed their site, Jeff!
The gray screen of death brought back some memories.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
Excellent news! I hope it materializes
-Marbury was back in the Boston facility practicing the very next day after the playoffs ended. I like tha commitment.
-Marbury is a better option at backup PG and anything left out there.
-Marbury improved his defense as time went on, and you could really see he was focusing on it.
-Marbury was a good compliment to Eddie and other shooters. Once he improves his finish around the hoop then other players will benefit.
Go DA! Make it happen!
I like the sound of this reasoning. I can’t wait until the new NBA season starts!! Let’s get that rematch that everybody was sooo hoping for! Then let’s stomp their faces in!!
What did you say to me paper champion?
-Mr.T
by CaliforniaGreen on Jul 21, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
My question is....
Where do I get some sources? Man do they sound fun? And, like, they tell you stuff that makes you cool….
My sources tell me to burn things.
Standing up for the little People
PS: I am actually from Boston.
go ask him yourself
he’ll be on USTREAM tonight at 9
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
Why, Danny, Why?!?
The summer had been going so well!!!
by Title 18 on Jul 21, 2009 8:54 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
The only reason I don’t like Marbury as a backup point is that he is not a traditional backup point guard. Ideally, the backup 1 would shoot well from the outside, handle the ball competently, play solid D, and not try to force anything. Marbury’s style of play requires him to dominate the ball too much for a backup point guard. You can’t blame him, he’s been a starter all his career before coming to Boston. And I’m still a little worried about the dark side of Starbury breaking out and demanding a larger role on the team. When you have a young, stud point guard like Rondo, you want a guy who will be perfectly fine with playing 10 minutes a night, and I don’t know if Marbury can handle that for an entire season.
Steph seems to be having trouble...
Setting up for this chat haha. Don’t quit your day job, Starbury.
Sad, Sad Day
Over 500 people want him back? Celtics fans used to have a reputation as knowledgable about the game. That is ancient history. Today’sCeltics fans (at least 500+ of them) might as well root for the Clippers.
Remember when they weren't arrogant?
It’s possible some folks are considering other things or just disagree with your opinion.
by Ritzybeanboy on Jul 21, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh great one
I saw every 80’s team. Get off ya horse. He is better than what u can get. Suggestions from your royal rear end or no comment. I saw the Celtics of old. We live in a different era, man. Get on board with the new or dream about stuff. Watch some Classic sports and blog that…oh yea…no blogs back then pops. Grampy, the Clips might be good this year.
Join my yahoo fantasy league this year
… and we can see who has “knowledge” about the game. I want starbury back at this point if it’s going to come down to a free agent signing.
by MaineBleedsGreen on Jul 22, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
by the by that's tongue in cheek
I know how serious some of you guys take your posting of comments. :)
by MaineBleedsGreen on Jul 22, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Marbury's too short to pair up effectively with House.
In the playoffs, the backup backcourt of Marbury and House stunk the place up defensively. I don’t care how much they were or weren’t trying, they didn’t get the job done, especially when their counterparts featured any height.
House is already here and signed, so I don’t see the sense of bringing back Marbury. House needs to be paired up with a tall ball-handler, hence my interest in seeing a revival of Gabe Pruitt/House experiment. I don’t look forward to playoff time with a midget backup tandem of Marbury/House. This would not be good news.
Just cuz Pruitt is taller
Does not make him talented. If that was the case it would be very easy to find a backup pg. That’s a pretty weak arguement to not want him back.
A weak argument?
Surely you watched the playoffs when Marbury was paired up with House. Are you suggesting they did a satisfactory job on defense? As a backcourt, they were atrocious.
Pruitt isn’t simply taller than Marbury, he’s significantly better defensively. He’s a backup ball-handler who can cover most shooting guards, which neither House nor Marbury are capable of doing. You think a guy like that is easy to find? Name one or two others who’re available.
Too many Boston fans are simply star-struck with Marbury’s over-hyped past reputation. What has he done in recent years that leads you to believe he can deliver something on offense to make up for his defensive liabilities?
Even if it were no kidding's entire argument - and he does a good job making clear here that it isn't -
it would sadly top the “Hey, this guy made two All-Star teams earlier this decade” derivatives I’ve seen elsewhere in favor of bringing him back.
-sw
"I didn't go there with the intentions of getting ejected. I went there with the intentions of just telling Kobe, 'You got to relax. You're hitting the wrong person. Don't you know you're hitting Ron Artest?'" -Ron Artest, 05.06.09
by Steve Weinman on Jul 22, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
marbury is like a rhino virus- keeps hanging around. if he stays, it’s one more geezer for la certe to work on. i’d rather have pruitt but he is probably gone.
Nice analogy, nazz
-sw
"I didn't go there with the intentions of getting ejected. I went there with the intentions of just telling Kobe, 'You got to relax. You're hitting the wrong person. Don't you know you're hitting Ron Artest?'" -Ron Artest, 05.06.09
by Steve Weinman on Jul 22, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Oy
Hey Brick, I generally agree with most of your posts, but I honestly don’t get your vehement dislike for the guy. I would definitely see hesitance, but the venom just seems misplaced. Did we really suffer much last year by taking a chance on Marbury? Do you really, honestly believe we could do better than him — especially considering the potential for him to have a comeback?
Look at it this way: a bench with two All-Stars. Amazing. I totally concede Marbury was a disappointment on the court last year, but you have to love his attitude. Zero drama.
Now, imagine the potential of him being a solid contributor OFF THE BENCH (what, 10-15 minutes?) with a full year under his belt.
Saying all this with due respect, sir.
VERY unconfirmed
I tried clicking the link to see what else they had to say, and the link says the site’s account has been suspended. It could be nothing, but it definitely doesn’t help their cause as being a trustworthy source.
I hope Marbury goes somewhere other than the Celts. He just can’t help the team that much. Maybe another team, but not this one. Unfortunately, I agree with Big_Easy that there isn’t much better. Maybe Lue could help, but whatever Danny and Doc decide I’ll accept.
He's Not an All-Star
Big_Easy, with all due respect, I don’t care about anything but the success of the Celtics.
I watch the games. Last year, Marbury had a couple of good games. The rest of the time he was terrible, in fact atrocious.
If you go back and look at the history of my posts, I started out with an attitude of guarded optimism about Marbury. I have great respect for Mike D"Antoni and Donnie Walsh (who wanted nothing to do with this guy) but even so I was willing to give Marbury the benefit of the doubt.
After watching him last year, I’m no longer willing to do that. I’ve concluded that his career is over. I don’t care how good he once was (and even that is debatable, given that his teams never won), he’s no good now.
I’ll repeat here what I said in another post. If Marbury has anything left, why is there not a single team in the NBA or in Europe that has the slightest interest in him?
The only rumored exception is the Celtics.
This lack of interest has nothing to do with his character. It has everything to do with the fact that for at least two years he has been completely ineffective as a player.
I agree
but at the vet min – his salary is league subsidized and there is a good chance DA is clearing out a bunch of roster spots. So (assuming we’re not worried about attitude) what’s the risk in bringing him in and seeing if he’s got his mojo back, and cutting him if not. It’s purely financial – I’ll let Wyc and DA figure out if they can afford it or not.
mixed bag
let’s assume Marbury plays much better (i.e. he can shoot) than last year or he gets cut. the question I have is really about minutes and rolls:
the big minutes will be taken by KP, KG, Sheed, and Scal or Baby. Pierce and Marquis easily fill the SF spots, and Allen, Marquis, and House will fill the SG spots. That leaves the PG spot – where Rondo will be playing 30-40 minutes. If its on the low end, Marbury makes sense, but if Rondo will see closer to 40, can Marbury be happy and effective with <10 minutes a game?
My second concern is even if he plays well and establishes a roll as a combo guard off the bench, how will he fit in on a second unit with Daniels? Ideally the PG playing with Daniels can play off ball and catch and shoot. Marbury was starting to become a more reliable shooter two years ago, but I have to discount that given last year.
Finally this pushes the rotation out to 10 or even 11 (with BBD) guys. I’m not a fan of giving Doc lots of unclear options:
Perk / BBD
KG / Sheed / Scal
Pierce / Daniels / Scal
Allen / House
Rondo / Marbury
We’re going from young to old really fast.
Rumors from a single source ???
I have to see it to believe it. With or without Marbury, the Celtics’ mvp next season is still the PG.
pics or it didn't happen!
What did you say to me paper champion?
-Mr.T
by CaliforniaGreen on Jul 21, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
He's not a good fit HOW?
He tried to not be selfish in his time off the bench, maybe to a fault. Or, do you mean he needs to be a better shooter where Rondo isn’t?
He might be able to do that with a training camp under his belt.
People seem to forget that he hadn't played for a year
of course his shot was gonna be off, he was rusty. Playing a pickup game to stay in shape is FAR different from playing in the NBA playoffs. Steph seemed commited when he played for us, I do believe he wants to win a championship.
Let’s not forget, before the drama with the Knicks and being banned from the team, he was a beast in training camp that year.
Don't Trade Rondo or Perk!
Agree...
People just expected too much of him last season. They probably thought he could be superman in a instant.
by thatswhatshesaid23 on Jul 21, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not a matter of expectations. He's too short.
Marbury’s not going to get any taller by attending training camp. And his height and lack of defense is very much an issue, since he’d be playing with House.
His bottom-of-the-league (Chuck Hayes excepted) shooting efficiency didn't help matters either.
Beyond that, agreed, no kidding. But you knew that already.
-sw
"I didn't go there with the intentions of getting ejected. I went there with the intentions of just telling Kobe, 'You got to relax. You're hitting the wrong person. Don't you know you're hitting Ron Artest?'" -Ron Artest, 05.06.09
by Steve Weinman on Jul 22, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe Doc plays Rondo a little with the second unit
to avoid the matchup problems. There’s no law that says backups can only play with backups. Imagine Rondo on the floor with House and Sheed spotting up and what a nightmare for other teams that will be when Rondo drives to the basket. If Sheed’s in te paint he can set a pick or Rondo can dish to him, if Sheed’s out on the range he probably took the other team’s defending big with him. And Marbs would obviously be fine with the first unit.
Really though, I’m sure Doc will try lots of combinations. Nobody’s handcuffed to anybody else.
by Ritzybeanboy on Jul 22, 2009 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions
So who should house be on the floor with??
how tall does this player need to be? can he play with Rondo? Rondo is only 6’1" while Marbury is listed as 6’2". Do we need PP running the point so that he’s tall enough? Who on our team as currently constructed is running the point when house is out there in your world? Maybe Daniels when we get him? So then do we even need a back up pg is Daniels is going to back up the 1, 2 and 3? I’m confused and just trying to figure out your argument here!
I can understand that in a perfect world we would have a taller pg to run with House on the second unit, but do you really want to go into this season risking that Pruitt is that guy? What has he shown you that says he’s ready to be the backup point on our team? I’ve seen a guy who plays 10 mins a game, does one play where you notice him and disapears for 5 minutes at a time. I mean unless you think he’s proven he can be our pack up pg with the garbage minutes he’s played so far?
Your argument is reasonably fair… I suppose … but you offer no alternatives.
by MaineBleedsGreen on Jul 22, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
What is this huge risk we'd be running with Pruitt?
Doc would be having House, Wallace, and, apparently, Davis and Daniels out there with Pruitt. How much more help could he possibly use? And do you think Wallace might not point it out to him if he doesn’t play the pick and roll properly? All he has to do is bring the ball up under pressure better than House (which we know he can do) and shoot from the outside at least as well as Marbury (which is no big deal).
If you watched Pruitt last year when he did play, then you shoud know his defense was surprisingly good, which Doc and his coaches all acknowledged. So again, what’s this big risk of playing Pruitt? Are you worried about feeling awkward when some other blogger mocks him because doesn’t have big-time rep like Marbury? Are you afraid he won’t make the SportsCenter highlights? Really, what’s the big risk?
If Pruitt's truly ready...
I’m willing to go with him, regardless of how many times he gets on Sportscenter. The simple question is: is he? We don’t know yet. COULD Marbury be better this year with a whole training camp in his belt? Maybe.
Also, as far as physical makeup....
Even though Marbury is 2 inches shorter than Pruitt, he’s 30 pounds heavier, so I think he’s less likely to be bullied around by most of the PGs in the NBA. Additionally, keep mind that as a 2nd unit guy, Marbury will probably be going against all the 2nd unit PGs.
Again, training camp won't make Marbury any taller.
As for the 30 extra pounds Marbury is lugging around, I suppose that can help out at times. But at other times, no. I mean, do we want Rondo 30 pounds heavier? And as for the height differential between Marbury and Pruitt, I expect it’s actually more than two inches.
All the same, out on the perimeter, the premium is being able to stay in front of guys. Pruit moves his feet exceptionally well for guy his height, and his technique and anticipation is far better than Marbury’s. As for challenging shots, there’s no comparison between the two guys. It’s simply a matter of length.
ok you've got me ...
I acknowledge that training camp will not make marbury taller. But lets not play this "If you watched Pruitt last year when he did play… " game. I’m just as much of a Celtics fan as you. I watched 75+ games and some more then once. I was just watching playoff games from 2008 and this past season with my friends in NYC just because we can’t wait for the season to start! So lets calm down on that front.
Sure Pruitt plays some decent defense. I wouldn’t call it exceptional though. If it was exceptional I think Doc may have played him just a bit more, especially when we really really really needed a backup pg all season. Wasn’t that the reason we brought Marbury in to begin with?
Also, I don’t understand this huge concern with defense on the 2nd unit. I thought the biggest problem for our subs last year was getting the ball in the hoop. The additions of Wallace and Daniels will help on both ends of the court. I think already our second unit is stronger both offensively and defensively compared to last season.
If you could offer an alternative to Pruitt I’d be on board, but I’m not confident with Pruitt being our backup. Out of what’s left I’d like Marbury, but that’s not to say I wouldn’t also like Anthony Carter as well. I just don’t see that many options out there and I’m not willing to go with Pruitt at this point. What’s the problem with bringing Marbury in and letting Pruitt try to actually beat him out for the backup minutes if he can?? I guess the only issue would be if signing Marbury prevents us from getting another backup big, but I think Baby will be back, and I’m ok going with the KG, KP, RW, BB frontline with Scal filling in when needed.
by MaineBleedsGreen on Jul 22, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
the problem with this is that
the five bench guys should not be playing together, except blow outs. and in that case, I don’t even want the 6th or 7th man playing because of injury risk unless its for a real good reason.
in fact playing four bench players together is a significant risk in terms of talent drop off. with the positional flexibility of the guys on this roster (KG/Sheed play PF or C, PP, Allen, and Daniels can play either wing, House can play at either guard spot, Scal at either forward spot) we should really only see three bench guys out there at a time during close games.
it matters less if House plays okay with Pruitt and Daniels, and more if he can play well with Rondo and Allen, or Rondo and Pierce, or Allen and Pierce, or Daniels and Pierce – etc. The two combination risks with the current lineup are: House and Rondo as guards (can be victimized by guards with size shooting over them or posting them up) and Daniels and Rondo – not enough perimeter players that can shoot. Therefore I expect that Rondo, House, Daniels lineup be used sparingly.
Marbury is superflous addition at this point. In his last seasons before the Celtics (when he played) his shooting was good enough that he could be swapped in for House and the team would be okay. But with House playing so well on this team (offensively) I’d guess Marbury taking his minutes is a push at PG and a loss at SG. Defensively, neither guy is a perfect pick, Marbury is a bit stronger and taller, so he matches up better with SG than House. He’s probably as good as House at PG, except House has experience in the system. If they had picked up Moon, I’d be in favor of Marbury, because he’d pair well with Moon’s shooting. (Everyone fits well with Ray Allen and Pierce.) With Daniels the wing – I think I prefer a shooter as the combo guard.
What Marbury does provide is insurance. If Rondo gets injured playing with House as a starter is crazy. Marbury would be a great emergency replacement.
Again – all of that is predicated on him being able to regain his shooting form.
I'm not quite following you.
Are you saying all those times Doc tried to put House and Marbury out there together didn’t matter? I wish it were so, because they looked pretty bad on defense.
One can daydream all one likes about how House or Marbury might look good with this, that, or another combination of starters. Me, I’m just focused on what we actually have, and who can best play point guard with House when Rondo’s sitting down. To me, the answer is Pruitt.
Not a Good Fit
First of all, no, I haven’t forgotten he was out for a year. I just think we need a bigger guard to play alongside Eddie. I’ve said it many times here. I’m concerned about the defense.
If Doc played a swarming defense with the second unit, then maybe it would work, but if Doc does the rotations like he did last year, with the second unit typically playing together then they are going to be abused at the guard position. If Doc however staggers his rotation which I’d love to see, then Marbury might be playing the one with Ray at the two a lot. That’s fine. That would be great.
Offensively I don’t see a problem. It’s just the defense.
by amenhotep04 on Jul 21, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone else listening to Steph's chat?
He may actually be insane. He is keeping quiet about his plans though, won’t say if he’s coming back. Pretty sure he called his own mom fat, though.
YES!
He totally called his mom and his sister fat.
He is crazy, but, you know what: I don’t hate him.
He is sort of interesting though, like crazy person interesting.
...
This interview thing with Starbury is So weird….. right now he is paying his housekeeper… 5K… He’s talking about this, well doing it, right now. Live. So weird.
Agreed...
That was one of the more entertaining things I’ve listened to lately.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
You'll really want to search back to his interview in summer '07 shortly after the Knicks got ZBo
That’s a classic.
-sw
"I didn't go there with the intentions of getting ejected. I went there with the intentions of just telling Kobe, 'You got to relax. You're hitting the wrong person. Don't you know you're hitting Ron Artest?'" -Ron Artest, 05.06.09
by Steve Weinman on Jul 22, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that’s the first thing that comes to my head when I read the name Marbury.
by P2 on Jul 22, 2009 6:29 AM EDT up reply actions
He seems like a nice person but I don't want him back in green
Why not get Lue or A.Carter?
Welcome to Boston Rasheed!
You want Lue over Marbury?
Carter, if we could get him, or Bobby Jackson. NOT Lue.
My faulty memory, Brick...
… must have missed your early guarded optimism, cuz all I recall was disgust at him coming in. But maybe I confuse this with your disgust while he’s playing. If you say so…
I believe you have a chance to give a guy another chance when you can EASILY chalk up his sub-par (atrocious is an understatement) to both rust and his uncertainty about his role, whether he should let it all hang out, lack of confidence, whatever.
Here’s my main point, and I’ll let it go: We’ve got a good thing going on in Boston in which veterans can come here and resurrect their careers, win a ring, be a part of a winning atmosphere, you name it. Marbury can be another puzzle piece. If not, no big whoop.
Oh, and I guess Lue would be OK. Not sure what he’s got left, but whatev.
BiG E says.......
“We’ve got a good thing going on in Boston in which veterans can come here and resurrect their careers”
What exactly would Starbury resuurect in his career? The part where he whined, hated and quit on his teammates in Minnesota? NJ? New York? Phx?
I also believe in giving guys other chances…..he had his here last year…..now it’s someone else’s turn. I was thankful he just played poorly instead of playing the part of an NBA Islamic terrorist in which he infiltrates and blows up the team.
Hope you are well old New Orleans man
Is it Soup Yet?
Star is Back!
The Greatest player of all-time is coming back Stephon Marbury. This makes our roster so stacked it is ridiculous. Now if we can sign BBD & Powe we have the Greatest 12 of all-time. OMG if we could just get one moore player and you know who I’m talkin about. MIKKI MOORE BABY LETS DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!
sounds good
Lets beat LA & CLE by 30 points, then lose 2 in a row to the Bobcats, just to make the Lakers & Cavs look worse.
Time Machine
I just took a time machine into the future to June 2010. Guess what happened. Mikki Moore dunked the ball over Bynum at the buzzer of Game 7 to WIN THE TITLE!!
Just kidding
I just love how much celticsblog people love Star & my homie Mikki
I'm OK with Marbury, but Anthony Johnson and Anthony Carter are both decent backups.
The weird thing about some career backups is that they actually peak late, late in their careers because they really know their roles, they know how to jump in and maintain a pace when their team is ahead or change a pace when their team is getting beat. They take care of the ball, make good decisions. They’re productive and efficient and make the most of limited minutes.
In other words, they’ve finally figured out all the brainy things that make up for limited talent or athleticism.
Of all the FA points left available, I think those two guys are the best examples of what I’m talking about — the educated, experienced backup.
On the other hand, I see no value in guys like Kevin Ollie and Tyrone Lue. None. Zero. Zip. Nada. Better to keep Pruitt at this point if for no other reason that he has young legs and taller then 5 feet.
agree
assuming they are okay not playing much at all except when disaster strikes and they are pressed into emergency service. I’d still hope if Rondo got Jameer Nelsoned – that DA would be able to pickup a staring PG better than those guys, but they could hold the fort until that move happened.
get him back
i believe marbury has yet to prove his skills on the court. he’s a great person off the court too
i tried visiting the site of new england sports 24/7...
…and this is what i got:
“The New England Sports 24/7 staff regrets to inform our viewers that our server is currently down due to the recent traffic. Our account was NOT suspended due to any billing problems or content we posted on our blog today! We wish we could be online to report more on the Stephon Marbury situation, but unfortunately we need to fix this problem first. If anyone has any questions about the recent news reported tonight please feel free to email us at ”mailto:nes247@gmail.com">nes247@gmail.com although we hope to get this problem fixed soon. Thanks for understanding! -NES247.com Staff"
wow! apparently, starbury still commands interest among celtics fans. i for one would want to see him back.
Starbury...
I’m not a big Celtics fan but, I’m a Marbury fan. You see, this is like the first time where Marbury is going to play with BIGTIME players, I’m talking about like 5 all stars in one team. He havn’t done much, but try to consider that this is the first time! He’ll be back next season with the Celtics(I guess no one wants him anyway) and He’ll give Ainge a reason to trade Rondo(he’s got issues remember?). As what I’ve seen it, Marbury is enjoying the game. Unlike someone I know(I’m not pointing out LeBron, thou he just wants to make money, 1st Sports Billionaire?). Peace! _
P.S.
Boston vs Orlando East Finals Next season. Count out the Cavaliers, their getting old. LeBron wants out of it too.
meh...
the signing of marbury isnt really a game changing move. just an extra body to come off the bench.
Down to Earth
I like it! I don’t think anyone we can sign (or have: Pruitt, I’m lookin’ at you) will be that big of a game changer, really. I’m just so pumped for the season to start I can’t stop coming here to get my fix talking about it!
It’s gonna be a hell of a season!
by Ritzybeanboy on Jul 22, 2009 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions
not bad
Starting 5 Perk
KG
P.P
Ray Ray
Rondo
Second Team
Sheed
BBD
Daniels
House
Starbury
plus rest of bench?
YES!!!
Thats for sure a boost for our team, because he has the PG-abilities we need to backup Rondo! If he comes back, he will be better than last season ;-)
I asked god and he said: L.A. will lose again next year!! ^_°
I suspect being part of a team and training camp
will work wonders in helping Steph find his game again.
Without a doubt
He’s our best option. He’s got an okay grasp on the offense and defense, and he can only go up from last year. Give him a shot. He’s better than Anthony Carter.
Making sense of this Rumor...and why I think it is logical
The rumor as some logic to it. Specifically having to wait until the end of August. My hunch may not be totally in-line with the report. But I have a feeling this has something to do with how the Marquis Daniels deal goes down. This rumor is assuming and makes it more and more likely that a Sign and Trade will be happening between the Celtics and the Pacers. It also seems to assume that they see the S&T talks taking that long. We know that if an S&T does not happen, we will be using the bi-annual on Daniels, which means we can’t use it on Marbury.
I would take Marbury back, there is not one available point guard who is going to do a better job than he can. We need to fill the backup point guard slot with a veteran.
If Marbury is playing well it gives Rondo a breather and a chance to heal some of the nagging bruises and bangs he is going to get.
Also, if you saw Marbury's stream last night...
Marbury did say he would go to that US mini camp in Las Vegas. If that’s really true, and we hear good things about him, then that’ll make me even more excited than I already am about him.
Gabe Pruitt just isn't a rotation guy
on a contender. He hasn’t done a damn thing to prove that he might be, either.
His career FG% makes Marbury’s nightmare shooting look good. While Marbury has at least shown that he can be an effective NBA contributor, Pruitt hasn’t. Pruitt can’t even dominate in summer league, something that rotation guys on great teams should be able to do.
Maybe Marbury’s inability to hit shots last season was because of rust, or maybe he’s all done, but what’s Pruitt’s excuse?
Pruitt has a non-guaranteed contract. The Cs will have to see a ton of long term potential in him to retain him, because there are a lot of other options out there for similar money. I just don’t see it.
I agree completely
It’s time we cut ties with Gabe. He hasn’t proven that he can contribute other than garbage time. I think Marbury is a good short term solution, based on what’s out there. You cannot deny that he had talent but almost literally had not played in 2 years. He is familiar with the system, the team and his production can only improve. He has shown the ability to help us win games, which Gabe has not. For 15-18 minutes a game playing with the likes Paul, Ray, KG and Rasheed, I’ll take it.
I say we take Gabe’s roster spot and take a flyer on some young UFA like Von Wafer, Rodney Carney or even bring back Gerald Green and see what sticks. At least they have shown flashes, unlike Gabe. With a veteran team we can take chances with the end of the bench.
the case for Pruitt (my last word on the subject)
This is a long thread, so I won’t criticize others when they pose questions that have already been answered. But I’ll sum up the case for Pruitt over Marbury and be done with it.
Pruitt matches up far better with House than Marbury does, who’s too short to switch and guard House’s shooting guard. To utilize House effectively, we need a guy like Pruitt who can make that switch. Pruitt’s length, quick feet, technique and anticipation make him a far better defender than Marbury. It’s not close.
It’s suggested that Pruitt has proven nothing in two years. Not true. He’s proven to be an able defender and a decent ball-handler under pressure. He can be criticized for not having shown himself to be a better creator off the dribble. But with the second unit that the Celtics will probably be fielding, that ability isn’t all that vital. Moreover, he may still develop that capacity with a consistent unit to work with (which he’s never had before). As for his shooting defiencies, he was a good shooter in college, and may have simply lacked the steady playing time with the Celtics (a championship caliber team) that might’ve given him the confidence he needed.
Perhaps the coaching staff knows something about Pruitt that makes him unacceptable. And I wouldn’t be surprised if Pruitt is jettisoned by the Celtics. But from where I’m sitting, he’s the guy I’d take, over Marbury, to run with the presently constituted Celtics roster.
why would you critcize others anyway??
just don’t answer their posts if that’s your first reaction.
by MaineBleedsGreen on Jul 22, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
























