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Ranking the NBA's eight best restricted free agents - Ball Don't Lie - NBA - Yahoo! Sports

5. Glen Davis

Davis runs the risk of being overrated because of his time spent on national TV this season, but he also runs the risk of being underrated if you purely look at his 2008-09 stats. Davis was nowhere near the same player in the second half of the season and the playoffs as he was in the first half, and in a good way.

Still, heaps of minutes pumped up his numbers in the playoffs, and his rebounding remains awful.

What will it take to get Boston to decline to match? I think Boston matches past the MLE. Seriously, Davis was rumored to go to a number of teams even earlier this month, but interest in his services fell by a ton when Boston started poking around and throwing out hints that they'd match. It's an arms race between Boston, Orlando, and Cleveland; and Danny Ainge doesn't want to lose Glen's chubby, kid-pushing wings.

Ranking the NBA's nine best unrestricted free agents - Ball Don't Lie - NBA - Yahoo! Sports

7. Leon Powe

Players usually don't come back from a second or third ACL tear very quickly, but I'm standing by my pronouncement that whatever team picks up Powe's medical bills right now will be very surprised with the beast they get next March. Powe should be back on the court well before then, he'll take a while to round into shape; and if the new team has a coach worth shouting about, then the Celtics will be very, very upset they didn't tender this guy the qualifying offer.

The solution? New York, you need scorers? You want someone to put up points for a year half a year before 2010? This is your guy.

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I am still angry about Po(we)

Business you say? baaaaaaaaaaaaaah humbug!

Is it Soup Yet?

by Master Po on Jul 22, 2009 11:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Me too

and if New York grabs him (which, in the end, I don’t think they will) I will be far from pleased.

by grnpeak on Jul 23, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Despite surgically repaired knee...

Are you saying the Celts should “Po{we}-Knee” up the money, and sign Leon?

by Title 18 on Jul 23, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wao

He will be our 15 player and maybe we can use him during the playoff. Anyway our 15 neger get time of playing so why not powe he help us to get the banner!!!!!!!

by celt4ever on Jul 23, 2009 3:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

even blind master po can see right in this

im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!

by remembering9ergods on Jul 23, 2009 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

bring powe back

im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!

by remembering9ergods on Jul 23, 2009 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not in my case

alas.

"People don't understand, if you can't live the rest of your life off one year in the NBA, you can't live off 21." -- Keon Clark

by Eeyore III on Jul 23, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm with ya - I love Powe

What he means to the game, what work he’s put into basketball and the odds he’s overcome
to get to the NBA; He’s an inspiration to many young aspiring athletes and the NBA needs more
players like Leon Powe.

Danny please bring Powe back.

by OCsWestCeltic on Jul 23, 2009 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Damn

I want Leon back SO bad

by Marqui on Jul 23, 2009 12:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Wow

Yet another person who doesnt understand the severity of Powe’s injury. This is amazing. Its like a disease.

by alskor on Jul 23, 2009 12:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Leon will come back and be better than ever. He came back before and will again. That’s the kind of guy he is. If the Celtics had shown even 1/4 the loyalty to him that he showed to them, he would have given them a boost just when they needed it most going into the playoffs. It was a big mistake letting him go.

Perk and Powe... the Next Big Thing

by FLCeltsFan on Jul 23, 2009 12:30 AM EDT reply actions  

i like leon, much more then i like bbd. but i guess ainge knows the real situation better

how likely is he gonna stay healthy next season, not to say staying at the same intense level as before? sorry to say this but business is business

by aeternus on Jul 23, 2009 1:20 AM EDT reply actions  

This thing people keep calling business breeds money first attitude’s in player like Marbury. The fair thing to do is to give Powe a 1 year contract…if he can play keep hom if not so long Leon . I like Big Baby better than Powe but Powe is a better player than Baby

Why do you think Baby wants as much money as he can get “it’s called business”

by tyquinton on Jul 23, 2009 1:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Leon Powe is going to make noise when he comes back into the NBA

Powe was a diamond in the rough, and rough is where this man grew up. In the streets
of Oakland without a father & a mother who OD’s on drugs before he makes Cal Berkley’s team; was a 20/10 player at Cal all while raising his sibblings – and putting in the hard work to make it to the NBA.

He aspired, he’s worked hard, I feel for him as this is and can be a devestating injury
to return from the 2nd time around, but when I ask the question "what player with the drive to never give us and charactor be a roll model for young athletes of today – do you know will battle back to be apart of your team? That answer has to be Leon Powe.

by OCsWestCeltic on Jul 23, 2009 2:07 AM EDT reply actions  

When Powe comes back

If he is fit enough to play, then I hope the Celtics will pick him up. He is going to help if he can play. If he is not fit to play anymore, I hope the Celtics will keep him in the organization in some capacity.

by 33-32-00 on Jul 23, 2009 3:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Jeez...

it doesnt matter what kind of background he came from or how tough Leon is, people!

Cam Neely was tough as nails. Leon has had THREE serious knee operations. His knee is a mess. I love how people who know nothing about his knee or his condition right now are willing to assume he will be back early/healthy and better than ever. Everything we’ve heard is BAD.

by alskor on Jul 23, 2009 3:22 AM EDT reply actions  

up to the MLE??

The Celtics would be idiots to tie up that much money in BBD. Afterall, on the Celtics he’s due to get like 6 minutes a game. No way he is worth that money.

I fully agree on Powe. I want the Celtics to do the right thing here.

by TomHamilton30 on Jul 23, 2009 6:55 AM EDT reply actions  

I thought the same about Gortat

And Orlando matching, yet for some reason they did, so I guess you never know.

by Silhouette on Jul 23, 2009 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

good point

but Gortat is much more valuable than either BBD or Powe as a backup big… especially so on the Magic who have no-one to backup D.Howard. The Celtics on the other hand have Rasheed with the MLE… no need to pay the backup to the backup center 5.8mil a year also.

by TomHamilton30 on Jul 23, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

You sound like a broken record.

by Casperian on Jul 23, 2009 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's b/c every article is about BBD and

how much he is being offered. After watching pretty much every game BBD has played in I get disgusted at the thought of the Celtics overpaying for him just to sit on the bench.

by TomHamilton30 on Jul 23, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

But you want powe back.....

"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said

by Birdbrain on Jul 23, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Powe minus knees

is higher than BBD to you.

"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said

by Birdbrain on Jul 23, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

where do you get that?

BBD is trying for 4x the price of what we can get Powe. If Powe comes back healthy towards the end of the season & playoffs, when we’d need him, then yes I think he could be more valuable than BBD. I think it’s worth the risk considering the $$ that would be tied up.

I know, Birdbrain, you think BBD is better than any Celtic alive and without him the lakers will have a dynasty, but I’m trying to be realistic. Also, I want Powe back in the organization for what he does in the community and what it means to be a Celtic.

by TomHamilton30 on Jul 23, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hoping for Powe

Danny has a lot of work clearing space on the roster for Powe. I am hoping that he is doing that. I know its business, but Danny needs to remember that the income comes from the fans and Powe is a fan favorite. Appease the fans Danny.

by ForexPirate on Jul 23, 2009 7:06 AM EDT reply actions  

I hope he does get back in green.
After all, Powe is not famous for his 3s, his passing or anything else, but for his undeniable will to play. I’m pretty sure that when he heals he will an unstoppable train just craving to get back on track.

(I’m completing a week of walking around NY, while proudly wearing my Celtics cap).

by braz on Jul 23, 2009 7:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Why Baby

  Baby can guard Shaq and Howard. There aren’t many in the league who can.

by Dipper on Jul 23, 2009 7:52 AM EDT reply actions  

that's only two players

He can’t adequately guard anyone else. Do you pay BBD money just to guard two people? No, especially since the Celtics already have Perkins. Besides, Shaq will only play like 20min a game.

by TomHamilton30 on Jul 23, 2009 8:05 AM EDT reply actions  

which is why you pay Perkins

It’d be nice to have a contingency for every single scenario possible in the playoffs, but it doesn’t mean you overpay for it. BBD for anything close to the MLE is completely overpaying, and ultimately crippling the celtics financially in the years to come when they are trying to sign STARTERS for the team.

by TomHamilton30 on Jul 23, 2009 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

What was your feeling concerning

Posey?

"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said

by Birdbrain on Jul 23, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

He was asking for too much $ overall

I was on the side that the years and $ he was asking for was too much. While I did like him a lot, and felt he contributed a lot to our championship run, his 1 on 1 defense was a bit overrated and at the rate he was declining he’d be an onerous contract in another year or two. With rondo, perkins, and FA’s coming up in the future I didn’t want to have that much money tied up in Posey.

And, the celtics got knocked out of the playoffs this year.. but it had nothing to do with Posey.

by TomHamilton30 on Jul 23, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Baby and Powe

I agree with him about Powe, but I don’t about Davis. The C’s are going to beyond the MLE for a guy who might get pushed out of the rotation come playoff time? I know people have these Candyland fantasies of this 4 man rotation 4/5 spot, but there’s no way KG is playing less than 36 mpg in the playoffs, that leaves 60 mpg at the 4/5 spots. I think Perk and Wallace should have no time splitting those.

I like Baby and would like him back cheap. But I can’t see ownership paying that much for a 4th big man. Plus, I don’t think the C’s would be that much worse off letting Scal or someone else be the 4th big man and re-signing Powe. By playoff time, in whatever sparse minutes there are for the 4th big man, Powe wouldn’t be much of a downgrade from Baby.

by Jon on Jul 23, 2009 8:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Just curious, what do you think Danny feels is reasonable?

What scares me is that the article states BBD could (and should?) get the MLE. I’m not saying BBD shouldn’t be back with the celtics, I just think not many people here see Jon’s point above, or even consider how it’ll affect the celtics financially in the years to come.

by TomHamilton30 on Jul 23, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

during the season he should get lots of playing time...

Last year we all agreed that the big three played too many minutes, especially PP and Ray after KG’s injury. The point of having two quality backups at the 4/5 is to limit Perk and KG’s minutes to 28-30 minutes each so they CAN play 36+ mpg in the playoffs. Just because BBD may not be used regularly in the playoffs, doesn’t mean he is worthless to us. He would be very important in getting us to the playoffs healthy, especially with the recent injury history of Perk and KG.

If you look at what other bigs are getting paid in the league, 3 mil is really not that much for what BBD is capable of doing. How many 4/5 players are out there that can hit the 18 ft jumper, do a decent job defensively, spread the floor, and have the good footwork and soft touch for a 289lb player? I think he is more important to us that some people realize now.

by gizmo010101 on Jul 23, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Powe come back

I want Powe back but he deals with injuries most of the time. I say sign and trade baby and bring powe back

by jfarias on Jul 23, 2009 8:53 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I’d love to have Powe back. (But then, it’s not my money.)

by no kidding on Jul 23, 2009 9:12 AM EDT reply actions  

some good names there on bigs

i’d be very happy to have rasho or joe smith as our last big. if baby leaves, i’d also be happy to add diogu.

by ssspence on Jul 23, 2009 9:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Powe has very uphill battle

I liked Powe as much as anybody. But you should start thinking “career ending” injury. The draftniks weren’t wrong discounting him to 2nd round because of his knee. He’s a better player than 2nd round but the knee was a huge gamble and I’d say the C’s have lucked out, ie they got real value for Leon but aren’t on the hook for the size of contract his playing would have earned him.

For me its about the Celtics, not about Leon. Players come and players go. I loved that guy’s grit and story but you can only cut a knee so many times. Danny is doing the right, but tough thing, in moving on.

by Wildblu1 on Jul 23, 2009 9:47 AM EDT reply actions  

injury

It was our Doctor who did the operation. I would assume Danny has the inside information as to the severity of the injury. And the liklihood of Powe coming back productively. Also, his other knee may be an injury just waiting to happen.

That said: Of anyone, who has the tenacity to rehab and come back, Powe would get my vote. But the risk of him having a career ending injury is now an established possibility. I suspect the Celts are keeping an eye on his rehab progress. And at some point they feel comfortable with their assessment. And either resign him, or go another direction.

by Bozo on Jul 23, 2009 10:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Haven't Danny and Doc...

already said they’d be willing to bring Powe back sometime in August if it looks like he’s going to be able to play? Depending on what happens with the roster and luxury tax concerns, I find it hard to believe that the Cs will let Leon go if he could contribute this season. His low post game would be a boon in the playoffs, especially against Cleveland and Orlando.

Mike

by MBunge on Jul 23, 2009 11:11 AM EDT reply actions  

C'mon Ainge

what are you doing… I mean yes you are the only 1 that too a chance on player with 2 reconstructive surgeries prior to being drafted and you just released him but, this guy from yahoo knows the NBA…

"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said

by Birdbrain on Jul 23, 2009 11:35 AM EDT reply actions  

hire him

Powe is PR gold for the franchise (I’ll use the sentiment on CBlog as exh. #1). Offer him a job and then offer to sign him if/when his knee can handle it. Maybe Clifford Ray needs an understudy?

Obviously there would be no hard feelings if someone else pays him good money, but I don’t see just letting him fall through the cracks — and offering Powe the use of the practice facilities doesn’t really count as “supportive” in my book. I hope the C’s are doing more behind the scenes than we realize.

by Thruthelookingglass on Jul 23, 2009 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I bet we get Both for min $

I like how Danny is handling the Baby situation. Even if he has no intention of paying him 6 million, why let let opposing GM’s think that? His posturing is preventing BBD from getting offers, and will likely lead to us keeping him at our QO.

As for Powe, I gotta think every GM is thinking ‘wait and see’. 3 knee surgeries is gnarly. I can’t see anyone making a play for him this offseason. Danny should be in position to bring him back just prior to training camp if he can manage to open up roster spots via some sort of 3 for 1 S&T with Indiana, and I think he will.

by D Dub on Jul 23, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Looking down those lists...

I really like Ike Diogu for what we could offer. Seems like the perfect fit for us and unlike Big Baby he can actually rebound. I bet he’d come a lot cheaper than some of the other options too, def worth consideration…

by Silhouette on Jul 23, 2009 4:43 PM EDT reply actions  

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