More Reasons Why Boston May Be Right Fit
by Jeff Clark on Jul 4, 2009 8:37 AM EDT
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PrintThe more I read about this, the more it seems like Sheed will ultimately decide between Boston and San Antonio. And I wouldn't rule out Boston anytime soon. Via the Herald: (emphasis mine)
The Celtics hit the 35-year-old free agent with a Big Three press on Thursday, showering him with everything from the camaraderie of Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen to the usual pitch about Celtics history.
"Oh yes, we heard about that," said Wallace’s agent, Bill Strickland. "He’s well-aware of that. He (played at) North Carolina, so that kind of thing matters to him."
Something else in the Celts’ pitch, however, caught Wallace’s ear.
"One thing I liked that Danny (Ainge, executive director of basketball operations) said (Thursday) is that if they sign Rasheed, that won’t stop him from adding further to the team, because they are committed to winning," Strickland said.
That’s important, because nothing truly matters to Wallace beyond the best chance to win one, and maybe two, more rings. That’s the reason he decided against retirement last month.
All are expected to offer that same $5.8 million slot to Wallace - the Celtics did Thursday - so money is unlikely to be the issue.
Neither will contract length. Wallace doesn’t plan to play much longer.
"He could retire right now and be happy," Strickland said. "But that’s something we’ve already dealt with. He said, ‘I want to play more and go for another ring.’ "
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Why does everyone assme that
Rasheed wants to start? He’d be making the same $5.8 mil for less work and still a chance at a ring.
I agree
he may realize that he doesn’t have enough gas in the tank to start for a championship team, heck, sounds like he almost retired
On the other hand I'm afraid
that Orlando is going to give his wife and kids the whole Disney treatment and how great it would be the live there.
In one of the Boston Articles
His wife seems to be very interested in charity work and was very impressed by the things Ray Allen and his wife do. Ray was on the recruiting trip. I’m starting to get a very different impression of Wallace off the court from the things I’ve been reading. It seems that family is important and money not the main object.
"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
"Criminally Negligent Officiating"--Tommy Heinsohn
Reference
Wallace Agent Tells Tanguay, Rasheed would be a Great fir with Big 3. | Comcast SportsNet New England – http://www.csnne.com/wickedgoodsports/wallace-agent-tells-tanguay-rasheed-would-be-great-fit-with-big-3/
"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
"Criminally Negligent Officiating"--Tommy Heinsohn
I have this strange felling that
Sheed would take pleasure in turning the C’s down. If not maybe I have misinterpreted his actions all these years.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
Same feeling here...
Especially after the full-court press….Sheed would delight in turning the Big 3 into the Little 3!
Ray should have stayed home!
Sheed sees Ray as a guy Boston will be paying $20M next year {not $5.8M}…. eventhough Sheed is a full 6 inches taller and less than a year older.
If everything Wallace is saying is true... then why hasn't he signed yet?
Something doesn’t smell right.
Because
Teams are allowed to talk to free agents as of July 1, but I don’t think they can sign anyone till July 8? Neither can any other team. It’s an NBA rule.
"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
"Criminally Negligent Officiating"--Tommy Heinsohn
But
He hasn’t verbally agreed to a contract yet, which some players already have (Ben Gordon, Turkuglu, Villanueva, Artest, Ariza…)
"It will be fun watching the Lakers get those balloons down one at a time." - Bill Russell
by silvershamrocker on Jul 4, 2009 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, he can’t sign right now. But even before July 1 came around, the word out of Sheed’s camp was that he was going to seriously think about the next move and not be impatient.
So if he makes any statement by July 8, that would be something. It’s not a reflection on anything other than him weighing all his options regarding basketball, his family, and the direction his life will take.
I am sure Danny said the word "family" to him and the word "tradition" and maybe "loyalty"
….only they have less meaning to me this morning (and probably less to Sheed) than they did a few days ago…….Keep working hard Leon Powe and…..
keep #44 out of the Celtic rafters and on the back of Scali (where it is better used)
Is it Soup Yet?
Yeah, . . .
Red never let players walk, or traded players who meant something to this organization. Oh yeah, there was Gerald Henderson, Cornbread Maxwell, Rick Robey, Paul Silas, Mel Counts. He was going to move McHale if Bias would not have died. Where do you want to draw the line on loyalty and winning? Bill Sharman coached the Lakers to a championship and a 33 game win streak. Larry is with Indiana, McHale was with Minnesota. Sam Vincent was with Charlotte. Shouldn’t everyone just stay with the Celtics? Should Doc speak about his thoughts on player personnel without confirming the plans of the organization?
Danny was traded. What loyalty?
Broad brush you are using to paint your opinion - this is a specific unique case IMO
I think we respectfully disagree. I certainly respect your opinion this was the right thing to do. I just believe something different (about DA) and see it from a different vantage point. I am just not a huge fan of DA and never have been. Maybe I am to jaded about DA. I don’t sign his checks as I am just a fan of the Celtics. I still wonder why Cornbread Maxwell was treated like he was all those years ago.
Is it Soup Yet?
I disagree
Danny did what is best for the team. Powe can’t play until at least Feb at best, and the celtics need to win now, not to wait for players. Danny gave Powe a true shot at an NBA career when everyone else gave up on him before. I’m sure if Powe recovers and looks good, Danny will find a spot for him, but right now the window on the big three is closing and a weak bench killed us last year, especially because the starters played too many minutes and got injured by playoff time (see KG, who Powe was backing up). If Powe was so great, why did Doc hesitate to play him so often when he was healthy? There was a stretch where he didn’t play at all because of DNPCD. I think Danny meant to replace Powe anyway this summer, before the injury, and get a big guy that can hit a jumper. This whole pity for Leon is getting blown out of proportion because he’s a good guy. Scal’s a good guy too, but we need good players.
doc doesn’t trust young guys too much. i don’t know why but he just doesn’t maybe it has something to do with young players almost cost him his job. if you haven’t noticed most of the FA are all older (cassell, brown, mikki moore, marbury)now we here the rumors of g hill, mcdysse and sheed wallace. all those old players along with our big 3 leads me to believe doc doesn’t like or trust young players too much.
another reason he may not have gotten too much playing time is this. you tell KG to sit on the bench for any length of time? KG wants to be on the floor. maybe now with his knee he will be willing to sit more. i would say that plays a factor also.
that’s a very good point. I think it’s because young guys play for contracts therefore they have yo get their stats, whereas older vets play for championships so they are more willing to sacrifice for the team
Doc Doesn't Trust Young Guys Too Much
Yup, you’re right, because they make mistakes, especially defensively!!!! Tell me how many young teams played deep into the playoffs. Vet understand that every possession is important.
The vets that we picked up especially in 2008 accepted their role, they made the right play at the right time, guys like Posey, PJ and even Sam.
I’m not dissing BBD, but as good as he played on offense, his defense was pretty poor, often he was in the wrong place and just didn’t make the right rotation. He tried but it wasn’t second nature and he was a half step behind. In the NBA a half step is a killer, he might as well be in the backcourt.
Remember in college most of the stars aren’t asked to play defense – most college teams play mostly zone so once they get to the NBA they have to learn to play man-to-man plus the various variations that all teams play. It takes time to learn and become instinctive rather than reactive.
Maxwell`s treatment is no mystery...
Red felt the Celts would have repeated in `85…IF ONLY Max had worked harder to rehab his knee during the season.
Max {in Red`s opinion} dogged it…was useless in the Finals…LA won….Red quickly sent Max to the Clips for Walton.
Kinda Ironic
You know Po, I think it’s funny that you keep using the “Don’t put 44 in the rafters” thing as a shot at Ainge. You do know that He’s the reason 44 isn’t retired, right? Wyc wanted to retire 44 but Ainge said no. I just think it’s funny (and Ironic) that you keep insulting him with something he agrees with.
I did not know that - it is Ironic....but let me say "Thanks Danny"
I guess I can quit saying that – I’ll come up with something else until I get over this Po(we) thing in my head
Happy 4th to all
Is it Soup Yet?
#44 belonged in the rafters...
Before Danny had a chance to EVER wear it!
Because, Red never should`ve traded Paul Westphal {#44} in `75!
From `76-`80…Westphal averaged over 23 ppg, while shooting .524% from the floor.
He shot .504% for his career.
How many guys standing 6`4" ever did that while scoring nearly 13,000 points?
It still smells bad.
Okay, thank you, apparently Wallace can’t officially sign yet (although he could have given a verbal commitment).
All the same, this agent Strickland sounds about as phony as they come. With this guy around, I would’ve transferred my wallet to my front pocket by now.
I really don't think he's coming here.
I mean we gave him the full-court press with the intention of having him sign immediately, and we didn’t get that done. I just have the feeling that he is saying all these things to lead us on kind of, but he is holding out hope of more money somewhere else.
More than that though, I think his number one choice would be to start somewhere, and that would be San Antonio where they would be my favorite to win it all if they landed him.
I take Sheed at his word
Odd to say that, I know. It just seems as if he really doesn’t want to make a rush judgement, regardless of how great of a pitch the C’s made him. However, I believe the only reason Sheed’s agent keeps saying how much they appreciated the pitch given by the C’s isn’t to portray the C’s as the clubhouse leader. I think it is more likely to let other teams know what the bar is as far as what will be required to to woo him. Is he just using the C’s to get a better offer? I hope not, that would be really disappointing.
sheed might be a lot of things but he seems to be a
straight shooter
by celticinorlando on Jul 4, 2009 11:14 AM EDT reply actions
I take ‘Sheed at face value. This is likely his last stop in the NBA. I really can’t see him going anywhere other than San Antonio or Boston. The money will be basically the same, and I trust him when he says that’s not the driving factor. Play for Doc, or play with Pops. Play with KG, or play with Duncan. Rondo at the point, Ray Allen and Pierce at the wings, or Parker/Ginoboli. Both teams with a good chance to make another run. Might be able to start in San Antonio, but I can see ‘Sheed being happy as the 6th man off the bench, he’s not a guy who’s been driven by ego.
I kinda see ‘Sheed as a guy who’s very aware and very respectful of the traditions in a place like Boston.
I wonder, too, the C’s embraced Marbury last season; does that make an impression on someone who’s been a polarizing figure like ’Sheed? Come to Boston, fit into the whole Ubuntu concept, and the city will love you.
The fact that he contemplated retirement should show people that he will be OK with a bench role. Its obvious that he’s in his twilight years in the NBA, and he just wants to win another title. His body doesn’t allow him to go head to head with the best power fowards in the league anymore, but his skillset would make him one of the, if not the best, big man coming off the bench. Sheed would be a perfect fit, because the Big 3 plus Rondo could find him open shots all day on the perimeter. Furthurmore, he will add an important dimension to the second unit that we lose with Powe: a post player. Remember all those times last year that the second unit could not get anything going on offense? With Sheed in the post, that problem will be solved. This guy used to be a fantastic post player, almost as good as KG, and he will still be very useful there. Now he just has to decide on Boston.
Sheed’s coming in as a back up, not a starter as with any other player that will be signed before the season starts. Ubuntu, in layman’s terms, you put the team first before yourself. Roughly translates as “I am because we are..” and stresses collective success over individual achievement.
by thatswhatshesaid23 on Jul 4, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
the sheed mystery continues. san antone and orlando are warm especially after detroit. is sheed a westman or an east man? it gives the fans something to be anxious about and keeps us coming back here for any news. i have never liked the guy even in college, but i had never liked marbury either, tho i got to semii accept him. sheed is a player tho and a smart one.
Sheed joining Boston? How about internal problems?
Oh yeah that’d help the team.
Losing Powe and potentially Glen Davis? Even if Rasheed joins… Boston shall not improve their frontline.
The addition of Rasheed will give the Celtics 3 competent big men. But INJURIES… Perkins? Garnett? Wallace? One of them shall be injured. Without Powe and Davis… It shall be Scalabrine all over again.
Letting Leon Powe go was a mistake. However, letting Glen Davis go… will be even bigger.
Their time is NOW. Kevin Garnett can say “we would have won” if I played… but the fact stands that they lost to the Lakers twice… even without Andrew Bynum.
To compete NOW they have to… (in order of importance)
Sign Rasheed
Resign Glen Davis
Sign a cheap yet proven wing like Von Wafer/Szczerbiak/Kleiza/Ronald Murray
i really don’t see how rasheed wallace + FA forward (and scla) makes for a worse frontline than bbd and powe (who wouldn’t be able to play for at least half the season). obviously i am rooting for a big man bench of ’sheed, bbd and scal. that seems far better than anything this team could see otherwise.
injuries? you are aware your dream lineup of powe and bbd involves a player who wouldn’t be able to see the court until january or february at the earliest. how does that help injuries?
it seems to me that people who hate on ’sheed are people who only ever saw highlights of games with him getting techs (which espn loves to run). he is a premier player in this league. he has a great outside shot for a big man, post moves, can pass and play d. he is the perfect sixth man for this team.
by ChainSmokingLikeDino on Jul 4, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
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