What If This Is It?
by Jeff Clark on Aug 1, 2009 8:42 AM EDT
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PrintSo there will be no trade involving Gabe Pruitt. So there goes any hope of a move happening before August. There is still plenty of chances for Ainge to make a trade or two to add more depth to the bench and make the best use of the salary cap slots that we have available to us. However, there's also a chance that this is pretty much it.
We have to resolved the Big Baby situation. If a sign and trade can't be worked out, he'll either sign with another team and have Danny match the offer, sign with another team and have Danny pass on the offer, or take the qualifying offer and hit the market as an unrestricted free agent next year.
If we can't sign and trade Daniels, he'll come to town with the bi-annual exception. Then of course the hope is that we'll sign a point guard to back up Rondo.
Typically the most simple solutions are the one's that happen. Right now the easy path would be to bring back Baby, sign Daniels, and sign a backup point guard (Stephon? Lue? other?) and call it a day. Just to fill out the roster you can also invite Hudson and Swift and a few other live bodies to camp. That leaves us with the following roster:
Rondo | (backup PG) | Hudson
R. Allen | House | (T. Allen?) | Giddens
Pierce | Daniels | Walker
KG | Baby | Scal
Perk | Sheed | (Swift?)
To me that looks like a pretty solid lineup already. The presence of Sheed and Daniels already upgrades the bench. We've probably got to figure out something to do with Tony Allen because I just don't see him on the roster by the end of training camp, but you never know.
So what do you think? Is this a good enough lineup to compete for and win the Championship this year?
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We’re very good as is. This nonsense that we’re not a championship caliber team at the moment needs to stop.
We were on the verge of getting to the ECF with a depleted tired team without our defensive leader on the floor. Come on, people need to stop living in denial and realize that we have a very good team.
tony allen has to be moved
i am not sure giddens nor walker will do much for this team but they have a pulse. those 3 guys are the ones i just don’t see much in. other than keeping all three around..i wish they would package 2 of them for someone that will actually contribute like a PG or big. but keeping all three on the active roster is kind of a waste of spots
Dont want to go off topic, but man celticsblog twiter is spamming like hell with songs they’re listing to. It’s filling up my twitter page with crap lol.
good enough with that roster or good enough
if we started the season today? we still have several holes to fix. Jeff’s roster is about what i think it will be when the season starts. i just don’t like keeping 3 or 4 guys on the bench that will NEVER play when they could be traded for 1 or 2 that will. they have to plug the hole at #2 point and they have to resolve the baby issue as well as figure out about if giddens and walker actually have a future with this team. i want to keep JR. i think he has the most upside and complete game of all three of those wings. i want him to get minutes over tony allen, who is a distraction to this team. walker…trade him, keep him, cut him…not really a big thing if we have or dont have him
BBD
The BBD situation is key, whether we bring him back or get something in equal value in return.
Standing up for the little People
PS: I am actually from Boston.
No matter what roster we come up with, it won’t be a sure thing.
by BudweiserCeltic on Aug 1, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions
True, nothing’s ever a sure thing, but we can put ourselves in a much better position with a few more moves. We’re gonna be great, but Orlando and Cleveland have stacked their benches over the past few weeks, and we need to do the same to keep up with those younger teams. The backup PG and center spots seem to be the most vulnerable now. (I know Sheed can play center, but we’re gonna need someone bigger to guard Shaq and Dwight when Perk gets in foul trouble in the playoffs). It looks likely that we’re going to get Glen Davis back one way or another, which means Scal becomes pretty expendable. So trading him, Tony Allen, Giddens, and Walker in some combo to fill those slots makes sense to me. Sacramento seems pretty committed to starting Tyreke Evans at PG, so targeting Beno Udrih as a backup seems plausible. Centers like Krstic, Diop, Turiaf are probably realistic trade targets for those guys. Otherwise I bet a veteran like Brevin Knight would be willing to sign a minimum contract to have a shot at a title, and he could run a pretty effective second unit. As for bigs, I think Brian Skinner is the best free agent out there, with Melvin Ely not far behind.
That depth chart does not do justice to how good this team is.
We would have been good enough to make a legit run in the first place and roster moves makes us much better.
The depth chart does not show how flexible this team is and how it will be able to adjust to different types of lineups. This will be a team that will be a lot like the 2008 team, if not better because we have the personnel that can adjust defensively to almost any kind of lineup pitted against us.
If we need to be tall, we put Daniels at the point, slip KG to the 3. If we need to play small, put Eddie in a 2, and we don’t lose too much height because we can put KG or Sheed at the 5. We can choose to be a finesse team by taking out Perk, we can be a power team taking out Ray and putting in Daniels. I agree that we do need a backup PG, but that need can be addressed later in the season (like we have been doing).
I kinda wish we can address a need for a bench player that can handle someone like Lebron. Just think, if Pierce gets into foul trouble, Daniels will simply be too small to slow him down a bit. I guess I still have not moved on from James Posey.
You hit it in the nail. Not that worried about LeBron, though it’s quite valid especially Daniels against him. I think TA could help (if he’s still in the roster) or Gidden or Walker. Surely, it wouldn’t hurt to add 1 more wing for special occasions just in case, if we find a way to open some roster spots.
by BudweiserCeltic on Aug 1, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Playing Garnett in spot duty as a backup 3 against long wing players is a fine idea. At least in the playoffs.
But it might be hard to juggle all the subbing in-and-out without exhausting Garnett and Pierce.
What is ubuntu or whatever
Our “To Do” List
Bring Baby Back
Sign Daniels
Get Back up Pg
Get rid of Tony Allen
Sign Bowen
If we do the above our line up would look VERY solid…
Rondo/?/Hudson
Allen/House/Daniels
Pierce/Bowen/Walker
Garnett/Baby/Scal
Perk/Wallace/?
I like our chances with that depth. Daniels can play the 1,2,& 3 so I say we should grab him no matter what. Bowen is a defensive stopper, he can help slow down LeBron and all the others. I think Walker is ready to play NBA ball. We need to keep him throughout the trades. Other then the back up point guard possesion I think we look pretty good? I’m not sure if Hudson will be good enough to handle the rock. What you think?
by jfarias on Aug 1, 2009 9:43 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I agree 100% percent with you...
I’m still on board to re-sign Marbury (even with his latest) because I feel he has the most talent out of all the PG’s left to get and I really feel like with a trainning camp under his belt, this off-season to shake off some rust and get his legs back in him (if he will ever stop doing the damn justin.tv), he will know the system from last year and learn from his experience on the team last year, he will have more time to get used to the team because he’d be playing with us for a whole season, and HE’D GET TO BE PLAYING WITH KG… but I’m probably asking to much of Stephon…
Agree
i totally agree with both of you guys. its not official but i think Daniels will be a celtic.i love our front lineup with perk, kg, sheed, baby n scal. scal play a terrific playoff last year even he pass on shots i think he was scared of taking, we just need to add a big to foul shaq n howard. marbury gave us game 5 in the orlando serie, when we were down down 10 or 12, hes the ones who brought us back in the game that we won, overall we was not the marbury i was expecting, but i think after the best intense camp of all time that’s coming in october, he’ll be better.
I agree 90% with you guys
Any of Marbury, Lue, or Brevin Knight will be fine to back up Rondo. In addition to adding Sheed, I’ve always been perfectly fine with just keeping Baby and getting Daniels. Where I slightly differ is that I’d like to hang on to Tony’s contract til the trade deadline. We’d have a lot more flexibility by doing so. By then, a few teams will have said uncle, and will be looking to shed salary, so having both Scal’s and Tony’s contracts will be of benefit. Other than that, just getting the backup PG, signing Daniels, and keeping Baby is about as good as I could have hoped for. Hopefully one of those PGs will come on for the Vet minimum, ‘cause that’s all we have.
I really think the onus is on Doc. IMHO I think Doc has to be willing to sit some of the starters throughout the season and allow whomever is on the bench to get some time in. This pushing the starters to play as many minutes as possible has to stop. And Doc has had a history of doing this both here and in Orlando.
Also, for all the vaunted accolades of the defense, I think the offense has to be improved. The offense has been decent simply because of the star quality of many of the players, but there’s got to be a better plan than relying on this star quality. Doc has improved on calling a particular play at a critical time, but overall the offense does not maximize their potential. The team relies too much on the outside shot. I know Doc loves to spread the floor, but there’s more to it than spreading the floor. They are too predictable on offense. And of course, there’s no excuse for the incredibly sloppy play on offense. With the quality of players, there’s no reason we should be this bad with turnovers.
I think too, that Doc has to create an identity for the second unit. This mentality of holding the fort until the starters come in has to stop. They have to have their own identity. They have to also play to maximize their potential.
Bottom line from where I sit, I think Doc has gotten a pass for three reasons: (1) he coached too long here with a team that some times was younger than college teams; (2) we won the championship in 08; and (3) players like Doc. For me, Doc has to step up to the plate. The quality of players is going to be there, but if they are not used to maximize their potential, then coaches and management aren’t doing their job.
Part of coaching involves developing young talent. Doc has shown mixed results at it… that, and a tendency to overuse veterans in the pursuit of regular season wins. By holding onto Davis (hopefully), and by bringing in Wallace and Daniels (hopefully), and a veteran (so-called “proven”) backup point guard, Ainge will effectively eliminate all of Doc’s excuses for not using his bench.
As for Giddens, Walker, and Hudson, I expect they’ll never see the light of day (if they’re kept around.)
Nice Post
Some day I hope to understand the relationship between Danny and Doc when it comes to players and philosophy. Doc overplays vets, then gives them a break by not having practice, and then the younger guys get even more rusty. Then when they get a chance to play and obviously do poorly, everyone jumps on their case for playing bad, or Danny’s for signing bad players.
I thought Doc did a relatively good job with the rotation two years ago. By far the best of his career. Last year though we were winning, I thought Doc had tunnel vision and really was missing the big picture.
As far as JR, Bill, and Lester, have to agree with you. Lester definitely won’t play. I doubt Doc wants to play JR or Bill.
I'd buyout/release Tony if they absolutely can't trade him for anything.
And they need that 6th, developmental, full-sized center big.
I wouldn't
Having his expiring salary around for near the trade deadline could land us something useful, either alone or in combination with Scal’s salary. A lot more flexibility hanging on to Tony’s salary.
So many advantages this year...
Here are the advantages IMO, in no particular order:
-Better team synergy. We saw this at the beginning of last year, and it could (and should) be even better this upcoming year. Everyone really knows where to be on the floor.
-Rondo, for all intents and purposes, is in a contract year. He is also out to prove how good he is, and he appears very hungry. A motivated Rondo does wonders for this team.
-Perkins has gotten exponentially better, and more efficient, every single season. I love his progession, attitude, and that he doesn’t step outside of his role. His few basic post moves will be even more effective and efficient this coming year.
-Rasheed Wallace is better than any bench player we’ve had in the past two years, and he fits in perfectly, which leads to….
-The Celtics bench has more firepower than usual, provided we find a suitable backup PG. Between Daniels, Sheed, Eddie, etc the rotations have little reason for offensive sputter.
-Who have we lost? Gabe Pruitt and Leon Powe… that’s it. The offseason signings have more than compensated for that. Most great teams lose talent and have to replenish it.. we’re simply adding!
-Hunger. I think the players are even more hungry for a championship than the fans, which says a lot!
I can’t wait for opening night, and EVERY game after that. I’ve spent too many years dragging myself through junk season after junk season, hanging my hopes on developing players and mid level talent. Rarely in life do we as fans get to see such an elite team be OUR team. I plan to savor this whole season. Bring on the Cavs!
I agree with you about the upgrade of the bench, and I especially agree about Perkins. His improvement has been marked, and if the rumors about trading him were true over the summer – and even I don’t think Danny’s that stupid – someone should be fired.
We’ve lost nothing by waiving Pruitt, and as for Leon, I am going to have to see him become a workable NBA player again after this latest injury to believe it. The knee doesn’t take repeated injuries.
Don't downplay losing Powe
It’s not so easy to replace a career 17.6 PER guy. (Sheed is a career 17.2 PER guy, but last season his PER was 14.9.)
Sheed has skills that Powe didn’t have, but Powe did things that Sheed didn’t do, too. Sheed doesn’t get to the free throw line with nearly the frequency that Powe did. He doesn’t grab offensive rebounds with nearly the same proficiency.
I could certainly imagine the team being improved next season, but I could also imagine that Father Time’s advance, with the concomitant decline of Pierce, Allen, and post-surgery KG, combined with the loss of Powe and only the addition of KG, will lead to the team being no better than they were last year.
Getting to the line as frequently as he was, making only 68% of his free-throws is not really something that we should applaud. In fact, you can make cases that it actually hurt us that he got to the line that frequently.
What you’re ignoring is floor spacing, defense, bench length, ball movement. Our players on the floor will have an easier time scoring simply because Sheed is in there. I expect that our paint penetration vastly improves this season, particularly from Rondo and Pierce, by the same token a harder time double teaming KG and Pierce.
We were very good last year, and the year we won the series it was mainly due to a 3-man rotation of KG-Perk-Brown, overall Powe was irrelevant in our championship run as was Baby.
by BudweiserCeltic on Aug 2, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
To be honest, I can’t answer the question if this team’s good enough to win a title. Injuries will answer that question, and they will come. You can count on it.
However, what I can say is that this team is markedly better than the one we put on the floor last year. I think there’s a potential answer for all the problems that ailed us on paper last year – no quality help for Pierce and no quality big.
Yes, injuries will happen...
But, instead of it always happening to Boston….how sweet would it be if injuries would start to happen to Kobe, Gasol, and LeBron?
Also, how sweet would it be if Danny`s long standing interest in Robert Swift proved accurate…and he became an absolute “beast” off the bench?
That's a ridiculous statement
Would you really consider it sweet if Boston won because the Lakers lost Kobe and Pau and the Cavs lost Lebron? I thought Boston fans learned how much it hurts to lose a player due to injury and would not wish it on others.
Also, usually fans only remember the injuries which happened to their teams and forget about injuries which happened to other teams. This year the starting 5 for the lakers was: Fisher, Kobe, Ariza, Pau, Bynum. In the year Boston beat the Lakers, Ariza and Bynum, two starters, were out due to injury. The lakers would not have won the championship against the Magic without Ariza —he was invaluable. Also, even last year the lakers played without Bynum. Sure he “played” but he wasn’t really there. He came back with 4 games left in the regular season, and you saw how bad he played due to Rust and nagging injury.
I would hope we can all agree that wishing injuries on anyone is bad form. Let’s hope that every player is injury free so we can see the best competition in next year’s playoffs.
Definitely
The current roster is definitely good enough to win a title next season.
I think five or maybe six teams have a legitimate chance to win a title next season, with two tiers developing between them.
Top tier — Boston, Orlando and LA
Second tier — San Antonio, Cleveland and possibly Portland depending on Oden & their other youngsters
I doubt any move the C’s make between now and the start of the season will change the landscape, ditto for Orlando and LA.
Cavs on 2nd tier? I don't think so.
Cleveland added a low post center and two taller wings to the core of a team that won a gazillion games last year. The weaknesses of their 2009 team were 1)lack of any bigs who could score in the post, and 2) the shorter non-Lebron wing players had trouble matching up with bigger wings.
Both issues were addressed by Ferry. If Shaq can stay healthy and put up even 12 and 7, he’s going to help them big time. Moon and Parker are going to help too. Both players are athletic, can play some defense, and can shoot the threeball.
My top tier: Boston, LA, Cavs
2nd tier: Magic, Spurs
I’m not convinced VC is going to be a good fit down in Orlando, and I’m not convinced that Nelson can be a crunch time playoff PG, even though he has a good history of closing out regular season games. I’m also wondering if he’s going to stay healthy. They were a team that peaked at the right time last year, and caught some breaks along the way, but they aren’t as strong as my top tier teams.
If the Spurs stay healthy and come together quickly, they might be the fourth top tier team. One has to wonder if Dice, Duncan, Manu and Parker can stay healthy.
There’s the potential for Artest to implode the Lakers. Crazy is crazy, regardless of any good intentions Ron might have. SO that leaves the Celtics, with the most talented core in the league. I’ll take the Cs first seven players (RR, RA, PP, KG, Perk, ‘Sheed and Daniels), over any other team’s. Cleveland might have more depth, but in the playoffs, players 9-11 aren’t that crucial. Boston still needs to address the need for a 4th big and a 2nd PG, but if healthy, should be the favorite.
Looking at how the top teams have fortified themselves, his season will be The Battle of the Titans.
I think both Boston and Orlando have made good improvements over last season’s squads, Orlando most of all.
On the other hand, I’m not sure Cleveland are any better than last season, I’ll need to see them in action to be convinced of that … which is why I left them off the top tier.
I think San Antonio are notch below the others because they don’t have enough depth yet. Their top five guys are amazingly good but I worry about the bigs off the bench, and their wings off the bench. There’s still a fair bit of time left in the offseason so they may be able to fill those holes in time … but for now, I think they’re a notch below the others.
Cavs didn't address every weakness..
In the series against Orlando, Cleveland was exposed for having sub par pick and roll defense, thanks to the plodding Z. They’ve added someone who can bang in the post, but he may not only not guard the pick and roll well, he may clog up the lane on lebron drives.
With that said, I’d still place Cleveland on the top tier because lebron is simply a force and reigning MVP.
It’ll be a great season to watch though..you can be sure I’m rooting celtics all the way =]
by Lifelong KG Fan on Aug 1, 2009 6:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We're Very Competitive
We seem to be worried because other teams are making moves while we sit and wait. Quantity doesn’t necessarily equal success and all teams have weaknesses. Sometimes the weakness could be in having too much.
We have selectively improved our team. The additions of Wallace, especially, and Daniels are hugh. KG’s improved health is hugh. We still need to fill some holes, but right now we are in the race. Our player mix is good. I’m not sure bringing BBD back (I want him back) is a major thing right now because the addition of Wallace is an improved duplication of BBD at this time. I’d love to see a real backup for Perk (other than Wallace) and a decent backup pg. Our worry about Pierce’s playing time can be handled by the people we have.
"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
"Criminally Negligent Officiating"--Tommy Heinsohn
use daniels & house at the point
I’d rather see the C’s sign FA Bowen and use House & Daniels at the point when Rondo is out. daniels played well when he HAD to be a 3 in Indy but should be used at one of the guard positions.
First team: Back-ups
C-Perkins Wallace
F-KG BBD, Scal
F-Pierce Bowen, T. Allen, Walker, Daniels
G-Ray House, Daniels, Giddens
G-Rondo Daniels, House, Hunter
Bowen is cooked.
If SA didn’t play him last year, and released him. That should tell you everything you need to know. He was a Pop guy. A San Antonio system guy. All he could do for any other NBA team at this point is take up a roster spot.
He played in 80 games last season
19 minutes per game. And shot 43% from 3PT. What is that supposed to tell me again?
The numbers may be deceiving.
Pop didn’t play him when it mattered. I watch the Spurs often. To me, that was a telling sign. He went from 30 minutes to 18. Maybe he was trying to save him for the playoffs? He played more then, but the Spurs got stomped by the Mavs.
It adds up.
But I will say,no matter what he is or isn’t. He’s still better than Tony Allen. Not being a factor is better than hurting the team every time you touch the ball.
We need more depth
How can we go into the season when we still do not have:
1) A dependable proven back up point guard.
2) A dependable proven back up small forward
3) A dependable proven 4th string legit back up big man . (C’s SHOULD NOT consider big baby if signed, a big man, he is a power small forward period.
Other than House, Rasheed and Baby if signed there is no dependable talent on the bench.(Scal is a hardworker but just can’t cut it)
The Celtics have to finish the deal and solidify the bench with somew more quality players to give relief to the older front line players and add depth in case of injury.
Lets start moving Danny before its too late.
BTW, I voted based on the picture which implies just adding Sheed...
before I read the article saying that we’d get Baby and Daniels, so getting Baby and Daniels (and some backup PG), we’ve got enough to be a first tier contender.
I love that pic.
Danny’s smile is the look of someone that knows more than most.
Great smiles all around.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
If BBD can play SF, mine would be…..
Pierce-Daniels-BBD-Walker
Garnett-Wallace-(6’10 up PF)
Perkins-Swift
R. Allen-House-Giddens
Rondo-Hudson-Marbury
I'm OK with your roster Jeff
But I still feel that we would need to add some pieces on the bench to really put all the chances on our side. I would like to have some depth in case of injuries, or just to rest the starters during the season.
Anyway I’m just waiting for some Celtics news, the daily wait for something to happen (and especially about Daniels or a possible three way trade involving BBD) just kills me.
Everyone Has to Stay Relatively Healthy
And Rivers has to limit the minutes of his older players so that they stay fresh deep into the playoffs.
I'd be willing to lose the 1 or 2 seed
If it meant our starters were better rested heading to the playoffs. Not to mention if Da Bulls creep into the 4 or 5 spot I’d really rather not play them in the 2nd round. There might not be another team in the East that can give us so many problems.
I would not be a happy camper if this is all
Yeah, we upgraded. But it’s kind of impossible not to from last year. We need a backup pg of better caliber than Marbury and if Baby isn’t resigned then we’re in big (forgive the pun) trouble. Danny made the right move by getting Sheed – it was the best one for him to make – but I am less enamored with anything else he has done this offseason. Fact of the matter is we don’t have Daniels yet, we still have TA, and some 5’10 dude named Lester Hudson, meant to be a sg, is our backup pg.
I’m excited simply because we have a great starting lineup and Sheed. But seriously, offseason success? Hardly. Especially when the other best teams are making huge splashes. Call me a pessimist – I’ve already been calling myself one. I’m just very shaky – as CoachBo and others said, injuries will arise – but do we have enough to combat them? I’m thinking no right now. That being said, with the lineup that you posted, we can/will contend. But I expected more after the failures of last season.
Add BBD and Daniels
and Boston will be just as talented as anyone in the league more if my opinion matters. So we are still in TBD mode. None of the best teams has a player like Rondo who is just starting to ascend as a player. I don’t believe either him or Perkins are as good as they are going to be which will only make the team better. In the end it really doesn’t matter the team’s success hinges on KG being healthy come playoff time. If he is #18 is better than average proposition.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
Depth chart is wrong..
Sheed is the main backup at the 4 and the 5 – unless you think he’s playing 20 mpg, which isn’t going to happen…Perk proved himself to be a 30+ player and Sheed is getting 6mill/year…Perk/Sheed/KG will each play 30mpg, which makes the 3rd F/C job more of a situational and in-case-of-injury job…
Daniels is the primary backup for both Pierce and Ray – they will also have a 3 man rotation at the 3/2…House is situational, as will be Bowen if he’s brought in…they are going to play their most productive players the most minutes – Sheed and Daniels are scorers who will thrive off the bench playing with the other starters or leading other bench players.
Finally – PG is highly likely to be Marbury – most talent, best price…they have the Davis and Daniels issues to resolve, but Marbury is the logical choice at backup PG…The team is nearly set for the season – signing Davis would be a luxury, but he isn’t looking at more than 15mpg over the next 3 seasons with the frontcourt loaded with superior talent, hence the team’s lack of committing a windfall financial package thus far.
Whomever the team signs for 3rd string C will likely see most of their minutes when Sheed/KG get days off for wear-and-tear and when they take an early seat in the numerous blowouts this team will enjoy – Davis is the best insurance because of his offensive skill, but assuming a healthy rotation for the playoffs and most of the regular season, there really isn’t a huge role for another big – Davis just saw his best opportunity on Boston for the next 3 seasons and he knows it.
Sheed/Scal/Daniels/House/Marbury is a fine bench – with playmaking, shooting, defense all around – those 5 can be mixed and matched with anyone from the starting 5…Bowen and Davis would be bonuses of mass proportion, making the bench as good, if not better, than any around…Giddens, Walker, and Hudson round out a nice little development core to absorb, learn, and push the vets in practice…I like it…
It wouid be hard to imagine
Marbury getting a look after his most recent display of stupidity. I think he has better chance at jail time.
I do agree with pretty much everything you say though except that 4th big could be huge if one of the other 3 go down for extended amount of time. Which at their ages has a pretty good chance of happening. I really don’t want to see Scal manning the 4 in crucial situations.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
You haven’t been here in a while right?
Anyways, I agree with most of what you say. Perk, KG, Sheed will play about 30 minutes… the other backup will play a couple of minutes at the start of the 3rd and 4th quarter if any.
About our big man depth aside from keeping Davis, I’d like another lengthy player. What this will do is that one injury won’t force us to have an undersized bench. It will keep our tall man option, something we didn’t have last year.
Daniels will surely be the primary backup in the 3/2, but he should be doing the ball handling off the bench too with House playing “PG” in name only. I don’t think we go after Marbury, he’ll surely have a reduced role which I don’t think he can handle for a full season. Would like to bring him back, but I don’t think it’s in our best interest to do so. We’ll just get some PG for special cases, being our 3rd/4th in the depth chart, depending on how you see it.
What I don’t like about the Marbury-House-Daniels-Scal-Sheed bench is that I really hate having House/Marbury guard SGs. So as long as you find way to keep House as a PG, but not our main ball handler, we should be good.
I like Giddens this better House-Giddens-Daniels-Scal-Sheed. It gives some ballhandling with Daniels. It gives us a ton of floor spacing with House, Scal, and Sheed (and I can only hope Giddens is working on his corner 3s). It give us some good slashing ability to go along with our floor spacing in Giddens and Daniels. Then we have Giddens to help defend with his long arms (still need to see how he incorporates his team defense with real pros) and more importantly help rebound. I think with that bench we pretty much got all our bases covered. Of course, this is only a unit you use during the season to rest our main guys, during the playoffs it will be shortened.
by BudweiserCeltic on Aug 2, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Auguest 25
Is the day Courtney lee can be traded to te celtics as part of a bigger trade to include josh boone for BBD also N J will send a player and a trade exception (vince carter trade) to indy to complete the daniels sign and Trade. That is my dream so hold on until then wewill then be ableto use our LLE on R Swift. to N J roster will shrink from 15 to 12 players under contract.
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- Paul George (and Jeremy Lin, essentially) will highlight this year’s Dunk Contest
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