Why Not Anthony Carter?
We still have that backup point guard spot to fill. It sounds like the Celtics have ruled out Stephon Marbury, so who else is out there? Celtics Hub takes a look at the pros and cons of bringing in Anthony Carter. On the pro side, he can pass:
Carter averaged 4.7 assists per game in just 23 minutes on the floor, and his assist/48 minute number ranked 13th among 78 point guards last season, according to ESPN.
On the con side, he can't hold onto the ball and he can't shoot.
Carter, by one measure, was the single most turnover prone guard in the league last season. That measure would be turnover rate, an estimate of the number of turnovers a player commits per 100 plays in which he tries to do something with the ball.
He shot 43 percent overall last season, including just 24 percent from deep, which suggests perhaps the one three he took per game was one too many. He's not great on long twos, either; his effective FG% on jump shots was only 40.8 percent-three points lower than Nene's mark.
Cheap backup points are going to have their share of warts, so you have to take that into account. But do you think Carter is worth picking up? If not, who's your first choice?
Also see: Buyers Market For Many NBA Free Agents - Tom Halzack
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What if . . .
Danny is done? No more FA signings. The only way we get another point guard is by trade. Depth charts right now would be something where at the one we’ve got in no particular order:
Rondo, Daniels, House, TA, and Hudson
Then at the wings we’ve got:
Allen, Pierce, House, Daniels, Walker, Giddens, TA, Hudson, as well as sometimes Scal and BBD.
I could see Danny simply saying that he’s got enough depth at all the positions on the team. Maybe Danny isn’t going to sign another point guard unless one just falls to him. Maybe someone from the summer team? The alternative would be for him to package some players to get a point guard. Besides TA, I’m not sure Danny wants to part with any players right now.
I could see us going into camp with the team as is with the philosophy being we’re set at all positions.
I'm in agreement with "amen."
Yesterday it finally dawned on me that Daniels is coming to the Celtics principally to be Rondo’s backup (as opposed to Pierce or Ray Allen’s). I’m not arguing this would work out well (I’ve no clue). But considering Ainge’s comments, and the logic of the situation (cutting Pruitt, shooing away Marbury, and Daniels risking a major pay cut for no obvious reason), this sems to be the real plan. And I realize others here have suggested this theory before, but I always dismissed it as nonsense. Then, it finally sank in to my head, and I was rather stunned.
As “amen” points out, if Daniels is mostly going to be Rondo’s backup, that means Ainge likely plans on using Walker, Giddens, Tony Allen and the rest to spell Pierce (unless Bruce Bowen shows up). It’s a new day.
My choice is zero, zip, nada...
I like the strategy of going to camp with who we’ve got – House, Daniels, Hudson – and, if no luck, then at midseason there will be better talent available than is around now.
Who really knows about Daniels?
I keep hearing comments that Daniels can “play a little point”. What does that mean Jeff? He can bring the ball up but can’t pass or shoot? He can shoot and pass ok but can’t bring the ball up? Or whatever? I’m sure you know the Pacer Blog guy and he ought to have a decent comment on Daniels’s PG ability or lack thereof.
I believe...
that is coming from the short stint he did with the Mavs when Nash was out with an injury and Don Nelson used Daniels at the point
sort of the way that Doc used Tony Allen at point when we really had very few other options
from what i remember, he had good stats those few games, but the general consensus was that he’s really not a long term solution at PG
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
It's time to stick to our guns
If there really isn’t anyone else out there then I think it’s time to stick to our guns and head into the regular season with what we have right now. Perhaps we could platoon the backup position with someone like House or Daniels with Hudson. Maybe by the end of the regular season he will have matured enough to be a solid backup.
i'd like to see danny trade on of our wings for marty collins
the clips have too many PGs, and not much behind gordon and thornton. this will be even more true if they sign sessions.
and he can guard 2s.
More turnovers?
This team struggled with TOs last season. Imagine how successful they would have been if they had held onto the ball better. But the last thing we need is one of the most turnover-prone PGs in the league. Sorry AC… may you not find a home here.
"simul justus et peccator"
hard to argue with that logic
I tend to agree. I don’t know the guy’s game well, but if he’s a TO risk, then I’d rather we sign someone else.
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
Thanks Jeff
Thanks for the insight on Daniels’s past with the Mavs. I didn’t know he played there.
Lue, Jason Hart...
I hope we’re not done, and that Danny is going to acquire a true backup PG. So many of our players, both starters and bench, are good spot-up shooters — Ray and KG, House, BBD, even Rasheed now — so we really need a guy who can drive-and-dish to create those open shots. I think Lue is probably our best option: he’s a vet who doesn’t turn the ball over (.5 TO in 12 minutes/game last season), can still shoot (44% 3pt), seems to be well-liked, is used to the backup role, and would hopefully be willing to take a fairly low salary at this point of his career. If Lue wouldn’t take a vet minimum contract, Jason Hart would be another decent choice. Brevin Knight a distant third — good defense, but just cannot shoot. Guys like that who would know and accept their role would be my first choice, although I wouldn’t mind if the team wanted to throw some money at players like Flip Murray, Ramon Sessions, or maybe Luther Head. I don’t particularly see the appeal of Carter.
agree with both lue and hart
hart i wasn’t even thinking about, but now that you mention it I think he’d be a very good backup with spotty minutes. if memory serves well, he doesn’t make many mistakes, and has been on winning teams (not always, but recently spurs)
That's what Lue can bring?
That can’t be true. There has to be another reason everyone hates him. If Lue can produce half that turnover rate n 12 minutes, we’re solid in our bench.
I’m more than willing to take our chances that Hudson becomes something THIS season, but at the same time have House take up most of the backup PG minutes and let Daniels play the 2. But if we really need a backup PG RIGHT NOW, then Lue’s our answer.
I was about to post the EXACT same thing
Just because he’s listed as a PG and is available doesn’t mean we need to sign him.
Same goes for Ty Lue and Brev Knight
I've been thinking about AI lately
I know the same tired old arguments that we heard last year about Marbury will come up when contemplating Iverson on the Cs roster this season, but a PROPERLY MOTIVATED AI who ACCEPTS HIS ROLE as a backup off the bench in a Microwave role would be the final piece on what should be one of the best teams in NBA history.
Iverson would take the House role and kick it up a few notches, with his scoring and passing. they both aren’t plus defenders, but AI is a bit better. House is a better outside shooter, but the Denver AI is acceptable at 45/35%.
AI could put one year in here like Posey did, get a ring, and grab one last contract next summer. The Cs could work a S+T with Detroit, assuming they want a young SG like Giddens for virtually nothing. TA or House and Giddens and some cash for AI at $4m salary works.
Feel free to spout off the same old same old about “practice” now. I know AI was a disaster in (a rudderless) Detroit last season, but Boston is a veteran laden roster with leadership in the locker room, coaching staff, front office, and ownership. I think Boston would be the perfect fit for AI to redeem himself.
The "trade deadline" theory is a sham
I have yet to hear a single concrete suggestion of any PG who will plausibly be cut loose at the trade deadline.
The Mardy Collins idea seems OK. What about Jeff McInnis?
"People don't understand, if you can't live the rest of your life off one year in the NBA, you can't live off 21." -- Keon Clark
I could imagine...
…a trade like Scal for Milwaukee’s Charlie Bell, if the Buck’s aren’t in contention — the Bucks get out of the final two years of Bell’s deal. Or maybe Scal and TA for Ridnour?
That’s just off the top of my head, I’m sure there are other moveable players out there who would make decent backups for the C’s. A lot will depend on who is in playoff contention and how the C’s do health-wise.
Jeff McInnis?
Is he even in the league still? I can’t remember the last time I saw him play and I watched most of the regular season and playoffs.
by BleedinGreen417 on Aug 10, 2009 11:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
With the combined salaries of Scal + TA
We could probably get someone who’s being paid around the MLE. Not that I know right off the bat what that list would compose of.
Eeyore's tail fell off again
Until we know which team is playing badly we won’t know who will be getting pitched overboard. Of course you don’t know now. But every year there is talent available then. And since the talent available now isn’t much (Tyron Lue, Brevin Knight etc) we might as well save the roster spot.
Sounds like...
…a really good argument against Carter. I still think a vet with a good handle is what the team needs. Thanks for the good article Jeff. You convinced me. :-p
by BleedinGreen417 on Aug 10, 2009 11:52 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Troy Hudson?
I’m tired of all this pg talk, let’s just trade scal ta n giddens to sac for kevin martin
by jfarias on Aug 10, 2009 12:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I have a hard time believing Anthony Carter would go anywhere for the league minimum abscent of an offer from Denver itself.
by BudweiserCeltic on Aug 10, 2009 1:44 PM EDT reply actions
Yes
this would be a good pickup for the team
by Ruben Wolkowyski on Aug 10, 2009 3:35 PM EDT reply actions
This morning
I was reading an article that included Carter in it. Was from the Orlando perspective on who they should get as a back PG (either columnist or blogger not sure). It went through the pg’s still available in alphabetical order. I thought it was linked to from this article, but now I can’t find it anywhere on the homepage? did anyone else see it this morning?? mind you I am completely jet lagged and was up at 4am reading it so I could have the details wrong.
by MaineBleedsGreen on Aug 10, 2009 5:28 PM EDT reply actions
googled it
http://www.thirdquartercollapse.com/2009/8/4/973474/a-look-at-the-orlando-magics-third?ref=yahoo
don’t know how I found it in the first place tho.
by MaineBleedsGreen on Aug 10, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
RATHER HAVE HUDSON...
One thing I like about this guy is he can play tough, pestering defense, can dribble with both hands (a must for a PG) & THIS GUY CAN SHOOT!!!!
why not anthony carter?
i think the celtics will do fine with daniels and give lester hudson a shot .my opinion is they need to find a true point gaurd carter is to turnover prone and the celtics are a good defensive ball club so that wont go over to well with doc …..
Eddie House
Eddie House is a better backup point guard than Anthony Carter is.
Also, I don’t want to see anymore perimeter players with questionable jump shots. The team already has enough of those.

































