"We still have to . . . really decide what we’re going to do with that third point guard position, which I’m not feeling great urgency because I think that both Eddie (House) and Marquis can play there," Ainge said.
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when my articles become obsolete in less than 12 hours ;)
I don’t like this solution – I hope he’s just giving lip service to it in order to maintain leverage in some trade or something, but that’s probably just wishful thinking
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
Hahaha yeh I noticed that.
Blame it on the off, blame it on the off.
Btw, as far as offseasons go, this wasn’t that unexciting tbh. I like it thus far.
- Dirk 'DaarisDirk' van Boxtel
Eddie :x
Sorry but Eddie, and I love him as much as any other Celtic fan, he “aint no friggin’ point”. He’s a shooting guard. Eddie shoots the threeball. He’s a runner as much as a gunner, but he isn’t a main source of assists in my book.
Just my 2 cents, even though they’ve been given time and time again by anyone on here.
- Dirk 'DaarisDirk' van Boxtel
I'd rather see them hold out, even giving Hudson a bit of a chance, until
they can actually trade for a better backup pg than who’s free and available now. Sometimes the best signings are the one’s that you don’t do.
Agreed, no concerns
if there happens to be someone ‘worth’ picking up later in the season do it if not please don’t take up the roster spot just to have another PG.
Danny go bald please.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
This is
exactly what I saying all along thinking what Danny is thinking. Having a backup wing like Daniels that can handle the ball which we haven’t had the last 2 years really lessons the load on House when he is in the game. A small traditional PG is a less than perfect fit on this team as it will take time away from House and if you play them together it’s a nightmare matchup defensively.
This is exactly what I wasn't thinking... until this weekend.
And when it finally hit me, it did like a bucket of cold water.
Wow...
What no kidding said. I’ve always been ok with Daniels playing the 1 offensively and then the 2/3 defensively, but I never thought of him as a replacement to a smaller PG that would result in a small backcourt in our 2nd unit.
Yeah, if Daniels can be something at PG, our bench would be that much stronger.
Actually, the Cs have put TA in the same role the past 2 seasons
Not that that was the best position for TA—but that’s where they played him, as the de facto point guard.
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Aug 11, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
ok...then what about the back up wing??? sounds like daniels is more of
a point than wing to them….
by celticinorlando on Aug 11, 2009 8:15 AM EDT reply actions
Daniels can't back up Rondo, Ray, AND Pierce
so if we use the tandem of Daniels and House then we are counting on Giddens or Tony Allen to back up Ray and Walker and maybe Scal to back up Pierce
in other words, more of the same, which makes me uneasy to say the least
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
There are about 45-55 minutes behind the three backcourt positions. This can split fine between House and Daniels, especially having in mind that for best results we should always have one of our starters on the field.
great, so WHEN someone gets hurt (not if, when)
we’re scotch taping solutions again
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
or when PP starts playing 40 minutes a night
because they need an actual SF on the court because daniels is in the backcourt…if they said that getting another wing behind pierce was the #1 thing this summer…get a legit wing…or go with what you have in walker and giddens…no more of this playing ray with the second unitl or playing paul with the second until crap
by celticinorlando on Aug 11, 2009 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions
They will be playing wtth second
unit like every other team in the league. No ones subs 5 guys.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
yes..i do know this...but my point is that doc and danny said they needed to
get PP more rest. i hope their plans for daniels playing PG work. i just would like to see a legit #2 Pg so eddie could be the 2 and daniels the 2/3
by celticinorlando on Aug 11, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Giddens will rock your socks.
Anyways, Tony is more than enough for this role if needed be. People displeased with him last year are exaggerating the situation.
Let’s just cross our fingers that Doc has become a bit wiser from last season to this season.
by BudweiserCeltic on Aug 11, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
IF all we’re talking about is regular season to rest guys, TA will be fine, just like he was in the beginning of last season. Scal will be too, and he probably won’t get many minutes behind Big Baby, and he might be too slow for the 3 spot.
give me giddens over tony please
and doc holds the key…sometimes his bench rotations suck
by celticinorlando on Aug 11, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Jeff..you said it...we were led to believe that getting a back up for PP
in the offseason was priority #1…now it seems like the guy we thought would be that guy isn’t…seems we are back to where we started. why not add a LEGIT wing to back up PP? i just don’t think walker/tony or giddens are good enough to get important minutes at the SF every night. i think by december we will be in the same boat as last year with this position. address once and for all
by celticinorlando on Aug 11, 2009 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions
What the heck are you talking about? Just because Daniels will be doing a lot of ball handling it doesn’t mean he’s on the floor as Pierce’s sub.
by BudweiserCeltic on Aug 11, 2009 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Let me try again:
“What the heck are you talking about? Just because Daniels will be doing a lot of ball handling it doesn’t mean he can’t be on the floor as Pierce’s sub.”
Fixed.
by BudweiserCeltic on Aug 11, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly we've had Pierce play point forward often enough...
when Eddie is on the court with him. No reason Daniels can’t do it for stretches.
I don’t think its going to be a problem. It certainly isn’t something I’ll stress about during the regular season. Now if it doesn’t work for whatever reason Danny needs to be prepared to swing a trade mid-season.
I don’t see a veteran’s minimum point guard being any better than Eddie. Especially when we can play Daniels beside him.
you play eddie, daniels, perk and baby together..
WHO IS THE 5TH IN THAT ROTATION??????
by celticinorlando on Aug 11, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I dunno why you'd slip Perk in there
But to me, the answer is you may as well put either Rondo or Ray in there (another starter, god forbid). If Rondo’s in, of course he’s handling. If Ray’s in, you could have Daniels handling again. If you REALLY need a bench player, you may as well put in Scal, but he may be too slow for the 3. But I think my two former choices are the most likely.
Rondo, Ray, or Paul.
What’s the problem?
by BudweiserCeltic on Aug 11, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
just the minutes pile up on ray and PP when one of them has to be on the court
at all times…and i meant sheed not perk…i would like to see a legit PG so daniels can focus on being the SF…that is all…PG, Eddie, Daniels, Baby and Sheed..
by celticinorlando on Aug 11, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
And what exactly is the problem with the minutes. If Rondo, Ray, and Paul play 33 minutes each, this means Eddie and Daniels have 45 mins to split between themselves. Sounds right on target to me.
100% agree
What IS the problem? Even when it was PP and my grandmother out there, Doc kept at least one starter with the second unit. Since KG and Jesus have been here, one or them and PP have been out their. I believe they call that um, the continuity flow of offense, or something like that. No one EVER subs 5 starters unless its a game over situation. Like the others said, PP or Jesus can run the point. Quisy (yes, Quisy – get used to it) can play the point, Eddie can play the point. No, they’re not ideal PGs, but you’re backup 1G usually doesn’t keep the ball as long as Rondo does, they just dish once its over half court. I think we’ll be just fine without some half-baked 3rd string PG in there.
9 + 20 + 34 + 5 + 43 = 17
Junk time. Wallker, Giddens, TA (god forbid), anyone. This would be a garbage time lineup. Although, replace Perk with BBD and BBD with williams
eddie
giddens
walker
williams
bbd
This is the last 25 minutes of every game this season!!!!!!!!
Right?
Well, at least that’s my lineup in NBA 2K9. Eddie score most of the points. I figure Wallace and Marquis (who does, for the record, have really good handle, a soft inside touch, and a poor shot in the game) are the 6/7 guys, so they get a rest.
Oh and in case you are wondering, in the wake of Twitter reporting and “gut” feelings, I have decided to now base my off-season basketball fantasies on a video game. I figure it’s at least as sound as anything poo-ing through the rumor mill.
Ainge decided he'd rather have Giddens/Walker at the 3, then Pruitt at the point.
In the brief summer league, I was very interested in seeing what Pruitt, and, to a much lesser extent, Lester Hudson would do with the ball in their hands. But I noticed that the guy who especially seemed to have the ball a lot, and the green light, was Giddens. That may have reflected Ainge’s state of mind, indicating he was strongly leaning towards playing Giddens/Walkers as the backup to Pierce.
Ainge is seeing Daniels and House as a tandem, the way many of us used to envision Pruitt and House.
that is a mistake....walker and giddens can't and won't cut it at the 3
by celticinorlando on Aug 11, 2009 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions
With all due respect
Walker’s actually played a few NBA games. Meaningful minutes or not, we don’t know yet. If it’s clear they didn’t improve from last year come pre-season or VERY EARLY regular season, maybe we go somewhere else…and as far as the 3, Walker’s probably the more likely candidate for that than Giddens or say TA.
But for pete’s sake, give Walker a chance. No one seems to want to let them go, but you’re gonna tell me before TRAINING camp that he can’t be serviceable?
i agree..i wouldn't mind him getting a shot as a legit SF
in the rotation…Pierce can’t play 40 a night
by celticinorlando on Aug 11, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
He never has so
no worries about that.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
So true
Why on earth would we sign a tyronne lue or some other sad sack PG to come in and take minutes from Walker and Giddens? Those kids could have futures. No PG we pick up from here on out, barring trade for a decent player is going to have any future on this team. I’d much much much much rather see Walker or Giddens for 10-15 minutes a night. I’m sure ainge would too. Its not like Lue would ever become a “chip” he can deal, whereas the young guys could.
9 + 20 + 34 + 5 + 43 = 17
If the choice wass between Pruitt and Hudson
I think I’d rather have kept Pruitt
but what do I know?
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V
come on....
hudson is not take a roster spot on this team. we would have kept pruitt if we wanted a young PG this year.
hudson is going to europe as property of the Cs to see if he can get better and earn an NBA job.
I like how...
We’re saying Hudson’s not ready before training camp. Clearly the Celtics liked him over Pruitt as that previous article about him posted here shows, which probably says more about Pruitt than anything. You all just said Pruitt didn’t impress in summer league, while the Celtics liked Hudson in the 2 summer games he played.
Can we at least let Hudson fail in training camp before telling him he’s not ready this or he’s not ready that ? It’s not like the 15th spot on the C’s means he’ll get THAT many minutes until he truly earns them. I can understand if you think he’d develop better in Europe, but it’s clear DA wants to give Hudson a chance at the last roster spot in training camp, especially for a role the Celtics ACTUALLY need, as opposed to our overloaded SG depth chart which Giddens couldn’t crack before he could crack all the eggs in the world. Can’t we at least do the same for Hudson?
no, we can't
unless i’ve missed something danny has not made any such thing clear.
the celts couldn’t afford a roster spot for powe or pruitt, they’re not going to waste one on hudson when they don’t have to. they’ll keep that spot to sign a player as needed.
For the role he would be playing, I’d rather had kept Pruitt around myself.
by BudweiserCeltic on Aug 11, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
one of the three is going to get minutes behind PP each night
tony, walker or giddens is going to have to be in the rotation if they use daniels more as a guard than SF
by celticinorlando on Aug 11, 2009 8:48 AM EDT reply actions
The problem is that you’re looking at this as if we’ll be just rolling out 5-man bench units as the norm. One of Rondo, Pierce, Ray should always be on the floor. If we have 5 bench players on the floor it would be because we have a comfortable lead, just want to give our players some extra rest, or it will simply be for short minutes.
by BudweiserCeltic on Aug 11, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
they did this last year and it wore ray and paul out
having to have one of them on the floor with the second unit. i know they aren’t going to trot 5 new guys in at a time…it will be mixed and match..but assuming daniels is a point forward and eddie is the 2…that would mean ray would have to be on the court or paul would…call me old fashion but i prefer a legit PG that just plays PG so daniels can play the 2 and 3 the majority of the time…
by celticinorlando on Aug 11, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Again, they did this 2 seasons ago and it was not a problem. The problem is not leaving one of Rondo, Ray, Pierce in there all the time. The problem is Doc managing minutes, and you don’t need to bench all these guys at the same time to accomplish it. You’re not thinking this through.
by BudweiserCeltic on Aug 11, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
the problem is doc managing minutes...that is exactly my fear
oh well…just would like a legit PG as insurance
by celticinorlando on Aug 11, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe my memory serves me wrong...
But KG being injured wore Ray and Paul out, if anything, especially in the playoffs. Also, that could probably be attributed to Powe being out, too. So did KG and Powe get worn out as well? I just wanna clear that up before we get back on Ray and Paul, but if you want to get it to the point we play 5 bench players, that’s unlikely. You say you know that won’t happen, but you keep talking about Ray and Paul having to be in a bit more. Anyways, why can’t Daniels play 1 offensively and 2/3 defensively?
Other shoe....
There has to be more to the story. The fact that they used the LLE already and still havent signed daniels has to be a prelude to a trade.
Ainge also keeps using the wording of needing a third point. That seems odd as i cant really see that we have a backup except through scheming.
I feel much more comfortable than most with the situation we have now and the ability to use the bigs, PP, Ray, and Daniels to initiate the offense when rondo is sitting. I’d also like to not close the door on hudson till after camp.
That said, i’d look for possibly something more to be included in the Indy trade for daniels. Perhaps a point from them or a third team, and clearing scal, tony, or a wing to open up the roster a bit.
Say it with me: Walker breakthrough year.
Walker breakthrough year.
Walker breakthrough year.
Walker breakthrough year.
Walke…
… nope. Not feeling it.
- Dirk 'DaarisDirk' van Boxtel
All of this may reflect the ambitions of Daniels.
I’ll throw out a theory before I leave.
It’s curious that Daniels was willing to risk taking a major pay cut to come to the Celtics (in the absence of a sign and trade). Perhaps it’s because he’s had a strong desire to shift to the point guard position. Maybe he sees that as his ticket to stardom. Maybe Ainge, as a former shooting guard who came into the NBA hoping to be a point guard, was the only general manager around who was willing to take Daniels’ dream seriously. Cutting Pruitt loose, and pushing away Marbury may have been Ainge’s tokens of good faith to Daniels. And for that reason, Ainge won’t bring in another point guard free agent until Daniels is safely in the fold.
He has really good handle and a high bball IQ. He is a skilled slasher, and is tall enough to get rebounds. He has also proved extremely productive at point when given the chance.
I think you could be on to something. Maybe Ainge thinks he might have found the Reshard Lewis of point guards. This would cause, if it ever panned out, to be an absolute nightmare match up. Our at least it could be a HUGE lineup to go against a team like Orlando.
My thoughts...
I think, daniels can play point forward. Meaning he would bring the ball up when rondo’s on the bench (ala Hedo T) and rather than having a traditional of setting up the plays, the celts could rely on pure ball movement to get open looks. If house is in @ the same time as Marquis, on offense house would play the 2 and on defense guard the 1. And daniels can guard the 2 or 3. In Doc’s system, on offense the 2 and 3 are almost the same thing. And I remember ainge saying thAt a team doesn’t need a pg to win the title on Weei, he referrenced the celtis teams of the 80’s, the lakers, and the Jordan era bulls. I think it would be a smart move to get a 3rd pg just in case rondo gets hurt, but don’t think the team will suffer without a 3rd pg barring injury.
by Celtic Justice on Aug 11, 2009 9:29 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
You guys are reading way too much into this
Wow, it really is the offseason, the haven of the fantasy GMs. Danny just said he is not feeling urgency to fill the third PG spot since he has 2 guys who “can” play there. In other words, he is not desperate and likes the general make-up of the team. DA has always said he wants “guys who can play” when fans and media pine about a certain positional need, rather than sign a guy who is let’s say a Center, or a PG, but is only the 11th or 12 most talented guy on your team.
This does not mean there is not a backup wing now, the plan is to use Giddens, etc. Celticinorlando, methinks you would rather be right about your doomsday scenario about having no backup to PP then for the Celts to win. You’ve been harping on this on every post all summer. Even when they acquired Daniels you were skeptical, and this just gives you more fodder. Daniels is a backup wing, even if he happens to handle the ball when he is out there. Rondo does not need 2 backups, there are not enough minutes anyway. And many teams play a starter with 4 subs, entire 5 man second units that play together is the exception, not the rule.
I think DA will pick up an insurance 3rd guard, in case of injury, but there is no glaring hole that needs filling right this instant is all. Whether it is Hudson, or an available vet, there is plenty of time to fill this need.
KJ33 nails it right there.
Daniels is in a great situation because he is going to get starters minutes off the bench. Same for House and Sheed. With these 3 guys playing close to 30 mpg at various positions; Ray, Paul and KG will get the rest they need.
Here are the scenarios I expect to see off the bench:
Sheed
KG
Daniels
Ray
House
- Daniels handles the ball, guards SF on defense.
Perk
Sheed
Paul
House
Daniels
- Daniels handles the ball, guards SG on defense
Davis
Sheed
Daniels
Ray
Rondo
- Daniels plays pure SF
And then there is this late in the 4th close games lineup
Sheed
KG
Pierce
Ray
House
- Paul handles the ball and initiates the offense with shooters all around spreading the floor. You can’t double off any of those guys.
Long story short, Daniels and House are more than adequate backups for PP, RA and Rondo. Add Lester Hudson to the equation and you have 4 guys who can play pg. If one of these 5 go down for a while, we still have a glut of wing players in the stable (TA, Walker, Giddens, and even Scal who can play some SF).
This the best, and most versatile 9 man rotation in the league. Danny knocked it out of the park this offseason.
doc and danny said the priority of the offseason was to get PP a legit back up.
i have zero problems if daniels is the answer for that…but i have read more about daniels playing PG and the SG than the SF spot. KJ you are an idiot if you think i would rather be right about a doomsday scenerio than the Celtics winning….if this works then so be it. but i also look at the fact PP was out of gas last season…the fact that we don’t know if an injury will happen to him or rondo…i can wager nobody on here expected KG to miss half the season last year…..
i think boston does have the pieces currently to win but the main factor now is how Doc runs the sub pattern…which many on here dislike to begin with
by celticinorlando on Aug 11, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
please remind me who is the 2cd point guard on this team?
I’m ok with daniels or house as third and fourth point guard but please remind me who is the 2cd point guard on this team?
House plays at the point with this team
He has for two years. Only when Marbury came here did Eddie spend much time at the 2. The results were pretty bad as Marbury was forced to defend SGs. Only Eddie’s crazy shooting this season made it a line up that didn’t completely take us out of the game.
That was my question: who's 2nd PG then....
If Danny’s quote is that he’s thinks House or Daniels can play the 3rd point guard, who’s playing 2nd PG?
Unless Danny fancies himself a cunning linguist, and really means House or Daniels will be the 3rd PG, playing behind Daniels or House repsectively as the 2nd….. there’s a mystery entrant:
Pruitt — waived
Marbury — clinically insane? God i hope he’s not back
Hudson — i know he’s older than Rondo but a rookie as our backup? seems a wee bit risky….
Ray Allen — I’d rather him be our backup than House or Daniels
Tony Allen — how anyone still thinks he can be anything other than an average SG is beyond me.
Lue/B. Knight/Bobby Jackson/Keith Bogans/Damon Jones/Jacque Vaughn - my real preference would be to sign a legit PG vet (or trade for a guy like Dooling) to play backup PG.
by Gainesville Celtic on Aug 11, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Ainge Will Bring Someone In
What’s the rush? There isn’t one free agent pg out there who is head and shoulders above the others. There will be plenty of roster adjustments between now and the first week of October.
I would prefer a younger guy instead of a broken down veteran like Brevin Knight or Marbury. I don’t know if Bobby Jackson has anything left.
Right now, my first choice would be Mike Taylor, just waived by the Clips, and my second choice would be Royal Ivey.
However, I would not be surpised if one of the following players became available before the start of the season: Roko Leni-Ukic, Will Bynum (although the Celtics would not touch him in all likelihood), Travis Diener, Marcus Williams ( I don’t like him, but Ainge might) and Bobby Brown.
I wouldn’t be suprised to see Sergio Rodriguez dangled in a trade scenario either.
though he's already signed...
brick, i’d like to remind you that you once told me royal ivey couldn’t ‘hold gabe pruitt’s jock’.
free gabe!
I take what Danny says with a big grain of salt
He knows perfectly well that House is not a PG. Neither is Daniels. Can they bring the ball past half court? Yeah. Run an offense? Not ideal. Not at all.
Every year Danny looks to bring a legitimate backup PG in here (Sam, Marbury).
Not sure why Danny is saying what he’s saying. My guess is that you never want to appear desperate. But he knows. We don’t have a legit backup PG right now. He’ll address it somehow. Thing is, he might go with House and Daniels as backup PGs at the beginning of the season, but sooner or later, as we approach the trade deadline, TA and Scal’s contracts will start to look good to teams that suck, and we can probably get a good backup PG.
Who knows, really, but I think that NLT the trade deadline, we’ll have a legit backup PG. He won’t go all year with House and/or Daniels as primary backup PGs.
Confused a little.
I don’t know if this has been mentioned, I just kinda skimmed the messages. When I read the Ainge quote it sounded as if he had a back up point guard. He’s talking about the third point guard posistion (which he thinks House and Daniels can play) not the back up position. AT least that’s how he was quoted. Is it just a bad quote or am I missing something???
Classic PG...Hedo Turkoglu
Not really, but in a pinch he was pretty damn productive starting the offense. That’s how Danny sees the back up PG right now. Maybe Eddie, Maybe Daniels, maybe Ray, maybe Hudson, maybe Giddens. He doesn’t draft by the “cookie cutter” conventions which has worked out OK and he doesn’t seem too alarmed about this. The available guys do not have good value (low talent/too old/luxury tax = bad value)
The one guy who I don’t see is Tony Allen. Good Tony only emerges with lots of minutes. Bad Tony will prevent Good Tony from ever getting there.
I've read all the comments and one thing not being considered:
WHAT IF RONDO GOES DOWN?
I’m sorry, but I think not having a legit PG is a huge mistake. I don’t mind playing Daniels and House at the point a little, but we need a true PG.
Don't Trade Rondo or Perk!
When you have Pierce and KG in the starting line-up, the necessity of a real PG is lessened. The Celtics can be just as effective with running the offense through Pierce and KG without missing a step. It’s simply a different tactic, but nothing new to what those two have done throughout their careers.
I’m not worried about Rondo going down and not having a “real” PG behind him. We just need good players to step in and play with our guys, and we have quite a few that can manage. House with our starting unit is very good, for example.
by BudweiserCeltic on Aug 11, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Is that why we lost both games that Rondo missed last season.
If you can, go back and watch those games. The offense just didn’t run anywhere near smooth.
Don't Trade Rondo or Perk!
How easily it’s to ignore that we were using Marbury who was rusty as hell as his replacement and more importantly, Kevin Garnett wasn’t there. Oh, and Big Baby also missed one of those. What does this mean? That we couldn’t run the offense through KG as I speculated above AND with Marbury in there, he’s actually running the offense rather than Pierce being used as a point-forward.
by BudweiserCeltic on Aug 11, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, the previous season out of 4 games Rondo missed, we won 3. And if you count the last game of the season, we won 4 out of 5. Try again.
by BudweiserCeltic on Aug 11, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know what people want
We’ve been saying forever that a satisfiable PG probably can’t come here for the money we have left. People seem to be on the fence for Marbury, personally I’d love for him to come back. No one wants anyone injured, not just Rondo. I know, our depth chart is weak behind Rondo, we get it. But what can we really do? Thing is, we used our MLE on Rasheed, and we may have to use our LLE/BAE on Daniels. Who could we get here for the vet min. that could satisfy has a 2nd PG, if we really need one? Again, can we get Marbury?
I think it’s easy here: we may as well let Hudson come to training camp, he’ll probably get the 15th spot and a chance to be a 2nd or 3rd PG, and we’ll trade for an MLE level PG with Scal + TA. And, yes, this may mean giving TA minutes to let him increase his value.
1) What can we do? Sign a guy who can play 15 minutes a night at PG ~ Bobby Jackson and Jason Williams come to mind. Or trade for a guy like Dooling or Mardy Collins.
2) Hudson – from UT – Martin to Rondo’s back-up on a championship team? Come on, get serious.
3) What mid-level PG are you going to trade for TA + Scal?
I wouldn't mind a trade with New Orleans for Antonio Daniels.
TA+Scal for Daniels.
Don't Trade Rondo or Perk!
why dont we trade for
Courtny lee or rafer skip to my lue alston?
by jfarias on Aug 11, 2009 12:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
courtney lee?
they just traded vince carter for the guy. what are we gonna offer, scalabrine?
In the end, we’ll get Daniels (player #14, LLE or S/T) and the final spot will go to either Hudson, Lue, Marbury or J-Will.
Hudson will definitely get an unguaranteed contract for the training camp, and I believe Jason Williams is another candidate for such a contract (just like D-Miles last season). In the end, they’re going to battle it out and the one who doesn’t make the team will get waived in mid-October.
Or: We just outright sign Marbury or Lue and call it an off-season.
i think the only possibilities are jason williams, ty lue, and marbury. if williams and lue fall through then wign marbury. if all fall threw who really cares becasue were still one of the best and deepest teams in the league n i think every1 on this blog is jus bord n worrin about almost insignificant things. a back up point isnt gonna be the difference between a title
Man, I was getting CRUSIFIED when I first proposed this a month ago
Turned out to be right all along
my guess is they roll with this..if it works then great...if it doesn't
they still have scal and tony’s expiring contracts to use to get a legit #2 PG
by celticinorlando on Aug 11, 2009 4:36 PM EDT reply actions
watching replay of heat-c's from march
line up to start the second half:
marbury
eddie
pruitt
walker
mikki moore
my god i forgot how bad it got last season
by celticinorlando on Aug 11, 2009 5:17 PM EDT reply actions
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- LeBron James hints that he’d like to be welcomed back as a Cleveland Cavalier
- The Phoenix Suns refuse to dismantle their team because of … we can’t tell
- Video: Matt Barnes is legitimately upset with former coach Mo Cheeks
- Yao Ming discusses Jeremy Lin as eloquently as you’d expect
- Paul George (and Jeremy Lin, essentially) will highlight this year’s Dunk Contest
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