Danny: Celtics Offered Powe The Same Deal That Cleveland Did

Leon doesn’t sound like he really isn’t that savvy in these type of situations. His description of his conversation with Pagliuca sounds very bizarre and it’s very possible Leon misunderstood it severely.

I think it’s sad how poorly educated many of these athletes seem ,even from big schools. It’s very possible that Leon would still be on the C’s if he was could have read the situation better..

Keep the guy that has knees, or keep the one that doesn’t ? With BBD in the fold, who cares now. Its him or Powe. 3 surgeries on the same knee ? I’m not forking out money for that neither. I don’t make Charles Barkley bets.

even pretend like we wanted to keep him?? are we trying to make Leon look bad or something?

a few weeks back the c’s couldn’t tie up a roster spot for an injured player, all of a sudden they want to give him a multi year deal?

I thought Danny was making a hard business move when he chose not to offer the qualifying offer. It seemed cruel, seeing how heroic Leon was when he got hurt and all he has gone through in his life, but defensible seeing that we’re a tax team and Leon might not play much next season.

But if Danny is trying to say that he wanted to give Leon a 2 year minumum deal instead of the qualifying offer then he’s a terrible liar. The only reason why the C’s even tried to make the same offer is because 6 other teams wanted him. Why try to save face now when you made the “tough decision” a month ago? Rotten as it may seem to some fans, you augmented your roster with different players and now have a surplus of frontcourt players, don’t waste your time or my intellegence by floating the “notion” that you wanted him back.

kinda wish it was another team tho. it would be an eye poison to look at mike brown’s bubblehead every day. with stylish eyeglasses or not.

The mistake was made, and cannot be undone. It’s time to move on. Maybe Ainge learned something.

has everyone forgotten that we signed rasheed wallace?

I’ll take Danny’s word over Leon’s for one reason.

This is Leon’s very first contract negotiation, and Danny’s one billionth. Leon clearly took it very personal that he didn’t get the QO. DA, as usual, handled his business like a professional.

If Ainge did offer him the same deal and Leon choose Cleveland over us, it’s on Leon.

I love and respect Leon and wish he were back here, but let’s put this behind us. I also have the utmost respect for Danny and the Celtic Organization. Any further discussion is futile, it’s done. Let’s talk about getting the Marquis Daniels stuff done and then the backup pg. And, just for me, a quality vet Big for a Perk backup, just in case.

hey if he doesnt want to be here with the equal deal, if that actually is the case. he probably just signed with a team thats not quite as good

Danny handled the situation badly from the start. Would like to know the role Leons’ agent played in this.

Danny says he loves Powe, so then all is well. After making believe he was less than wanted, Powe rejected the same offer from the Celts. I would have done the same thing. There is something called “Pride” that cant be bought with money. Powe showed a lot of that in his 2 years with us. Apparently Danny never thought that Powe’s pride would enter into the equation. Wrong, amigo Danny, it did.
It would have been better not to have made any offer to Powe; that offer cheapened Powe’s pride; and Powe didnt go for it. Good for you, Powe. You earned a lot of respect from a lot of fans here. Best of luck to you and thanks for the effort you gave us.

There was absolutely no talk of contract until Leon was well into negotiations with Cleveland. He never would have even spoken to Cleveland had we offered him that contract. Look at the language; like not wanting him back: “that wasn’t necessarily so”…What’s that mean?…do you use that language to a guy you’ve offered a contract to…come on…what a joke!…Even Leon’s agent says after Leon’s signed with the Cavs that he’d rather have been with the Celts…What’s that mean?…Hah!…Is that anyway to begin your career with Cleveland???

And finally, Mark Murphy reports that Danny had spoken to Leon about the “possibility” of coming back and that Danny had told Leon that he thought he’d perhaps get a two year with team option…Here’s the hitch: When was it that Powe rejected the idea of the two year from Danny…My overwhelming feeling is that it was after Powe was well into discussions with Cleveland…If it wasn’t how can a reporter stand there and not ask “When exactly did you offer Powe a contract?”…I mean, Where’s Joe Friday when ya need him???

There’s a strong possibility that Leon will never make it back to being the force he sometimes was with the C’s, but the Karma surrounding his departure stinks…that’s right, “in the middle of the road”, and no amount of guarded politically correct language is going to sprays-em-up-and-how-do-you-do that lil effervescent effluvium…

See you Leon at the Q. Danny, great job.

I’d love to see Powe try to get past our D. : )

Danny clearly made a gamble that Powe would be available February and got burnt, but people were wondering if BBD would get any time. Now, we wanted to add Powe to that, even if that would be at February?

In the end, it really isn’t a big deal. Again, just tell me Powe can get past our D. Just do it.

I think Danny negotiated in bad faith once again. All summer long I heard how Danny and the Celts moved on and didn’t want Leon. At a minimum we could have offered him the QO which is basically what he got from the Cavs. Publicly Danny didn’t care about getting Powe done and it could have been done soon after the injury. He made the same mistakes in negotiating Posey’s deal- offered 2 yrs, low money and told Posey to find his best deal and we might match it. Danny is ticking off the guys we are trying to resign where if he dealt more fairly with Posey and Powe we probably have them both.

And to the post saying Powe can’t penetrate our D. If Perk’s shoulder acts up, he gets in foul trouble, watch out. If Powe is Powe and Shaq is a beast on the boards we will rue the day Danny screwed this up again.

You tell me Swift, O’Bryant, Pollard, Theo, type #12 in uniform isn’t going to be sitting on the pine all year? Danny’s negotiating of Posey and Powe remind me of Charles Barkley at a blackjack table.

made sense for the team because they’re getting a (hopefully) healthy Powe on the cheap next season after paying him this season to barely play.

Ainge is trying to say that Powe was going to get that kind of deal somewhere if the Cs didn’t sign him to the Qo, and he was right. In hindsight, the Cs signing Powe to the Qo would have meant that the Celtic would have paid him in the year that he couldn’t pay, only to lose him to another team in unrestricted free agency once healthy.

Cleveland got a bargain with Powe. I’m a huge Powe fan and wish him the best. Let’s hope that barely gets on the court this season, and has a huge 2011 on a Lebron-less Cavs team that wins 30 game.

Karma? Get a life. It doesn’t exist. As much as I loved Johnny, there wasn’t such thing as ghosts in the rafters either. The Celtics win, not because of ghouls and Red’s cosmic powers, but because of players and coaching.

There is no guarantee that Powe will even return to his old form. Microfracture is probably about 50/50.

And his old form was that of an incomplete player with promise…

You guys are talking about this guy as if he was Kevin McHale in his prime.

What we have here is a case of a bunch of armchair GMs that hardly know anything, but still love to scream and shout. When they’re right – everyone hears about it. When they’re wrong – no one ever does.

in agreeing with Danny’s move (or non move) and really wishing Leon well. My guess is that the Celtics orthopedic advisors have given a low handicap to Leon making it back. C’mon, all your arguments about how little money it would have taken, he’s ubuntu, etc are correct and also pretty obvious. So, ask yourself, why did the Celtics ignore those things. It can only be that they think his injury is career ending

Good luck Leon, 6 bigs is enough though… We need some guards now.

Hey, visit Posey’s deal for a second. Celts low balled him, only offered him 2 years, and then told him we would try to match a deal he got. Posey’s agent said screw that. Posey would have signed in all probability for 3 years with a team option for #4 if Danny treated him right from the get go. He pissed Posey off, the Hornets got hot and heavy for him, and it eventually got to 4 years. It’s on Danny for that. We realistically have this year and next year so at worse we have 1 year left with Posey’s 4 yr Hornets deal. No KG, no #18 but we struggled big time 2nd unit without Posey and our 2nd unit was stale- credit Posey for much of the difference between blow outs 2 seasons ago and last year’s struggling. I understand we won 60+ both years but still last year was a much tougher road even taking into account KG’s 20 game absence.

Hey if Celts didn’t want Powe, fine, right him off. But they told Powe they didn’t have money for him, they told the public they were moving on and then suddenly there are these regrets that he is going to the Cavs and we try to make the matching offer at the end. We didn’t move on or at least the Celt brass is saying they didn’t. So this is a lot of B.S. just like all the B.S we were fed about the KG injury, when he would return, etc.
Danny wants an escape clause if Powe/Shaq murder us on the boards and the Cavs end our #18 run. Danny wants to play the “we offered the same deal” card.

Danny is pissing off the guys we susposingly want to keep to resign and then when push comes to shove, these guys are going elsewhere. Powe’s agent said Powe wanted to be a Celt. If Danny said hey we are moving on like he did all summer than he and I just disagree on Powe’s value. But that’s not what Danny is saying now although that was his public position that in no way were we going to sign Powe.

Powe had a 30 point game verse the Heat. You tell me Swift, the kid from Turkey we drafted, etc- whatever big we have at the end of the bench has Powe potential? Danny screwed up again, plain and simple.

I like the moves with Sheed, and Daniels. I hope he lands the back up point sooner than later. The sky is not falling by any stretch but Danny had an opportunity with the signing of Powe to take up one of the 5 great teams in the NBA this year to a cut above, and he blew it.