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Building A Mystery In Minnesota

There's not a lot going on with Celtics news, so I'm trying to pop around the league and check in with teams as they get written about.  That's why you've seen me link to articles on the Hawks and the Thunder recently.  Expect more of these as I try (in vain) to add back some of the NBA-wide flair that Steve Weinman provided.

The Celtics and TWolves have been linked for years.  First there was Kevin McHale running the show, then there was the Ricky Davis, Mark Blount trade, then there was the KG trade.  They still have Big Al and Ryan Gomes, but not much else is left on that team now that new GM David Kahn has taken over.  TrueHoop takes a look at the team and where they are headed.

Ripping the Timberwolves Down to the Studs - TrueHoop By Henry Abbott - ESPN

Thirteen of the players, a head coach or two, and the face and brain trust of the team through its first two decades -- Kevin McHale: All gone.

In their place: One of the most profound and rapid rebuilds the NBA has ever seen, highlighted by the frenetic activity of hardworking new president of basketball operations David Kahn. He has ushered in new young players like Jonny Flynn and Ricky Rubio, a new coach in Kurt Rambis, a small collection of returning players highlighted by Al Jefferson and Kevin Love ... and a thousand questions.

Kahn goes on to give a timetable:

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Kahn spells out that this season will be an exploration of how the existing roster works. Next summer there will be several more new players to be added through the draft and free agency. "2010-2011 could be something of a laboratory, too," says Kahn. "There are so many things that can change, but with the path we're on, I think the third year is the first time we can really expect to make a playoff push."

As for Big Al, he sounds like he's about done with rebuilding.

Al Jefferson, the team's MVP and the star they received in the Garnett trade, flatly rejects that schedule, saying "It shouldn't be no three years." While hardly bitter, Jefferson is not guzzling the kool-aid of rebuilding either. "I was a little disappointed about Kevin McHale leaving, and also a little disappointed about Sebastian Telfair leaving," he says. "But I understand it's a business, and I understand David Kahn is here to do a job and he's doing it. ... The team becomes part of your family. You get close to guys, and to see them go, it hurts. ... I miss the guys. But you move on, and it's a new beginning."

Oh yeah, and there's "the Spanish kid" (they are still working on that pesky buyout):

"I have a gut feeling, right now, that Ricky would be the starter," says Rambis. "Flynn with his speed and and nastiness as a defender, I see him being a key player off the bench ... but it's not set in stone."

So what do you think?  Is this team finally headed in the right direction?

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Feel bad for Al and Ryan. Hope Al has a great recovery from his knee surgery.

"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
"Criminally Negligent Officiating"--Tommy Heinsohn

by TrueGreen on Aug 17, 2009 9:31 PM EDT reply actions  

they are the clippers north. how long till big Al comes back?

by cons on Aug 17, 2009 9:31 PM EDT reply actions  

They got Blount right? I say NO.

by Champzilla on Aug 17, 2009 9:34 PM EDT reply actions  

So far, I’m not impressed with Kahn. The TWs had a very good January and looked like they were starting to turn the corner and then Big Al goes down. Kahn comes in and blows everything up and what does he have to show for it? Rubio’s been a fiasco so far and QRich for Blount just to save $1.4 million next year? Better to keep and play him him rather than obtain Blount and cut him (and it would be even dumber not to cut him).

Overall, they’re in a salary dump and their attendance is going down the toilet. They’ll have a lot of cap next summer, but so what. What premier FA will go to Minnesota without being wildly overpaid?

by colincb on Aug 17, 2009 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Is that a pic of Big Al on the field of fenway park on his wall,? Not trying to be a jerk, serious question.

by Champzilla on Aug 17, 2009 9:42 PM EDT reply actions  

BTW, Gomes is never mentioned among the core. Even Brewer, who is obviously one of the bigger busts of the last couple of drafts has gotten some recognition from Kahn.

by colincb on Aug 17, 2009 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

please.......

how much rebuilding can you do… didn’t we do the same and finally realize that quality, talented Veterans win games…. In my mind the TWolves have gone backwards and until they finally realize that they need players, not projects, then they are heading nowhere.

I sometimes wonder if Big Al and Ryan Gomes wishe they never signed that contract with the TWolves. Al has 4 years left on his contract right now as does Ryan.

The one thing I do give you is that Minnesota has 8 expiring contracts at the end of the 2009-2010 season with Blount being one of them. But even still, what player wants to go and play for the TWolves right now.

Many players have their choice between Boston, LA Lakers, Cleveland, San Antonio as being their first choice because of the chance of winning a title. The only players the TWolves will attract are average to below average players and they might overpay to have them come their.

It’s a sad situtation to say the least. I would have given Kevin McHale 1 more year with the core he started with along with the draft picks and see how far they could go. The new GM just wanted to clean house with everything Kevin associated with it.

by Ancient Red on Aug 17, 2009 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

at least

DA was picking up assets, project players and picks with every trade. I am not sure what that guy kahn is doing

by aboubata on Aug 17, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just read Rubio will remain in Spain thru the end of his contract with DKV Joventut. NBA for “the spanish kid” now, only in 2011. I feel sorry for Big Al.

by Brazilian Celtic on Aug 17, 2009 9:50 PM EDT reply actions  

id be getting annoyed if i were al too…all hes done in his career thus far is rebuild

by latin on Aug 17, 2009 9:51 PM EDT reply actions  

A key question here

is how they will become a running team and utilize Al Jefferson to his best abilities.

Kahn has gone on record as saying he wants a team that runs a lot. Al is a half court guy. It can happen, but it will be interesting to see how they do it.

It sound like they may want to try to play Al and Kevin at the same time a lot for rebounding purposes. Rambis stated that fast breaks start with rebounds in one comment.

Will Rambis stress defense? How about the triangle? Will that be coming over?

With the new roster, I’d like to get some direction from Rambis before hazarding a guess. And like all first time head coaches, (that short previous period not counted) Rambis is a question mark himself at this point.

From everything I’ve read (and have seen) Jonny Flynn looks like a solid pick up.

by Tom Halzack on Aug 17, 2009 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Big Al

I love you Big Al please come back to play for the Celtics

by Bigpapi34 on Aug 17, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

It doesn't look good

A first-time head coach, a start from scratch (almost) roaster and a not-so-happy All-Star are not the right ingredients for a smooth rebuilding. What they need is a Bill Parcells type if they want to turn things around.

by greennwin on Aug 17, 2009 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Um....

I think you meant Bill Belichek.

by funkstarrdeluxe on Aug 18, 2009 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Apparantly

Big Al is the only one on the face of this Earth who misses Sebastian Telfair

by fizzyice on Aug 17, 2009 10:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Happy T-Wolves Fan Alert

Hey ya’ll new to the blog, great post. I gotta tell you as a fan of the Wolves since 89, this is the first time I have had hope since the team’s implosion after its magical WCF run in 03/04. It’s been the same old story year in and year out, botched draft picks, horrible off-season trades and signings, questionable coaching hires… all leading to stifling out anything remotely resembling a play-off berth.

To McHale’s credit, he did clear out a lot of the horrible deals he had signed before he left and he did draft KG way back when, but I really like the position the team is in now moving forward. Kahn has been up front about his timeline this summer and has been open about his decision making process, which is a refreshing change from the old regime’s MO. Kahn has also personally flown out to Spain to visit with Rubio and family twice, which is hard to imagine McH ever doing even once…

As a fan, I was very happy to see KG win a ring in green and I know that the T-wolf contingent would love to see Big Al win a couple in blue and green. :) Friendships aside, I think that the team is now moving in a direction toward that goal.

@hallicious

by hallicious on Aug 17, 2009 11:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Another Wolves Fan

I’m with you. The Wolves are going to take a step back this year, but with Rubio, Flynn, Love, and Al, The Wolves now have a much higher ceiling than McHale’s core did.

The Rubio buyout has been problematic, but it has nothing to do with Minnesota. Money is the only issue. He lost about 5 million over the life of his rookie contract by slipping three spots in the draft. That’s approximately the buyout. Odds are still good he’ll be here this year, but the worst case scenario is that he joins an almost-ready-to-contend core in two years and puts them over the hump into contention.

BTW, Al Jefferson is ahead of schedule in his rehab and should be ready for the start of training camp.

by LoveTo on Aug 18, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

big al has got to be worried about this team. losing kevin was a big loss for al and there will be way too many l’s in the loss column. no way do any of the big free agents to come will want to go to minny. sucker contract, al.

by nazzbo on Aug 17, 2009 11:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Jonny should be the starter, not Rubio

Him and Big Al would make a great high-low duo

by noro on Aug 17, 2009 11:40 PM EDT reply actions  

I wonder how long the high-speed game will last too.

Al’s never been the speedster. We were sure spoiled with KG to be able to run fast or half-court.

I’m looking forward to Flynn too.

by SotaPop on Aug 17, 2009 11:42 PM EDT reply actions  

What's the Timetable

for Al’s return this season?

Anyway, defensively they’ve got all kinds of problems up front. Al really needs to play the four, and having him at the five is just asking for trouble. Watching them last year, with the exception of that stretch when Kevin was coaching was tough. Al just looked frustrated so much of the time. Gotta be lonely for the guy when his closest friends keep leaving, or with him leaving.

by amenhotep04 on Aug 18, 2009 12:47 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't know what on earth these guys were thinking...

They could’ve had Stephen Curry along with Johnny Flynn, instead they took Rubio who wanted to go to a major city where he’d get exposure. And he is going to finish out his contract in Spain, so they are stuck with just Flynn as a top 10 pick. The new guy Kahn is a serious bonehead for this reason alone and I’m sure after Stephen wins rookie of the year honors it will be viewed as a botch up.

by Tradetime on Aug 18, 2009 2:21 AM EDT reply actions  

If you were the Wolves, and Rubio fell into your lap like a gift from God, you would have passed on him twice in a row?

by LoveTo on Aug 18, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

They still have a huge holes at the wing and until we actually see Flynn and Rubio on the NBA court very much unproven at the point despite how talented they are. They could even take a step back this year after losing a couple good players in the Wizards trade.

by JBcat on Aug 18, 2009 3:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Too early to comment on their direction. Too many things need to happen before any clarity comes …

The Wolves got considerably worse in the short term this summer, but there’s a good chance it’ll help them in 2-4 years time.

The Wolves were going nowhere under McHale. Sure they could have won 40 or so games, but they were hitting a roadblock once they got there. They just weren’t built for sustainable progress, there wasn’t enough high end young talent on the roster.

by Who on Aug 18, 2009 6:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Blount/Davis

I had to go back and look up what we got for Blount/Davis here:

http://hoopshype.com/general_managers/danny_ainge.htm

We got Wally (of course) and turned him around eventually for Ray Allen – not bad, not bad at all

so really, we have the Twolves to thank for KG and Ray Allen

"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V

by Jeff Clark on Aug 18, 2009 7:16 AM EDT reply actions  

that's a bit of a stretch lol

I never looked at Wally as an asset in that trade. In fact, when it went down on draft night my buddy called me and we both were happy that we were getting rid of Wally world lol. We considered it a nice “addition by subtraction”.

Nice job keeping things busy here during an otherwise boring month :)

by TomHamilton30 on Aug 18, 2009 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rubio

What I don’t understand is why some sneaker company won’t finance Rubio’s buyout. He’s an exciting player who will sell alot of sneakers. A $5M sneaker contract is small potatoes, even in this economy.

And why is DKV Jovenhut digging in its heels? If they force him to stay for two more years, they get nada when he leaves.

But I don’t expect Rubio ever to play for the Wolves. I expect his rights to be traded to the Knicks in some sort of sign and trade involving David Lee, or a deal in which NY agrees not to match MN’s offer sheet to Lee (assuming Lee would agree to play for two years at the MLE).

by Brickowski on Aug 18, 2009 7:40 AM EDT reply actions  

I was thinking the same on the sneakers..

..or any major advertisement potential. Would they be allowed to facilitate this? I don’t see why not, but you never know.

The wolves are idiots. But, for their sake, I really hope Big Al is healthy. I still really enjoy watching him play, and he’s a great guy to root for in the league.

by TomHamilton30 on Aug 18, 2009 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think

that he’s already got sneaker endorsements lined up which will in fact help ease the pain of the buyout, but I would imagine that it is just a negotiation at this point and they are just trying to work that buyout number down

"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V

by Jeff Clark on Aug 18, 2009 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow! Great! I'm going to Minnesota!

Here are all the reasons free agents want to come to Minnesota:

1. The beaches are great in January! (Hell, it’s only 30 below!)

2. I really like lefties and Minny is full of them!

3. Lots of good blonde girls and not much virile competition (goes with the lefties).

by Dipper on Aug 18, 2009 8:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Agree on #3

Definitely some of the hottest girls in the country are bred up there. Got to say that I am a huge fan!

by funkstarrdeluxe on Aug 18, 2009 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

how can you tell if they are hot?

They all have sweatshirts and giant coats on. You’ll need to master the fine art of judging face fat to make accurate guesses on the rest of their body

by TomHamilton30 on Aug 18, 2009 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rambis off to good start

So, does it make any sense for Rambis to anoint Rubio the starter over Flynn, when he has been on the job about two minutes, and Rubio might not even be on the team this year? How is that going to sit with Flynn? Maybe it motivates him, but why take that chance.

As for Big Al, I feel about as badly for him as I can for someone making millions of dollars. He is stuck on a lot of bad teams in Boston, gets traded to Minnesota where he is on another bad team, and now has to hear about a 3 year re-building program. Add in the injury too.

by bigperm33 on Aug 18, 2009 10:55 AM EDT reply actions  

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