rather have bowen then tony allen, the most overrated defender ive probably ive ever seen

no offense, but our entire team plays dirty defense like bowen

I wish I could like him, but I think he’s in the Tony Allen camp of “not very bright.” Where tony fails in turnovers, walker fails in fouls and stupid plays. An experienced player like Kobe would absolutely eat Walker alive, and not through athletecism.

I just don’t think there’s a high ceiling for a player with a low IQ.

Had we pursued Bowen, I’m not thinking he would have played much until later in the season, anyway. You only go after Bowen for the playoffs; save his legs until then. Giddens and Walker would have had almosy as much an opportunity to get playing time with Bowen around as without.

It sounds nice to have a perfect mix of experimental development and nba finals caliber play, but they don’t co-exist on the court. Any development happens in practice & d-league.

It is important to have a mix of youth and vets though, but the youth has to be ready for the position. Rondo & Perk are ready, which is why they start. These team is starting the best 5 in the league. If they start putting players out there on the court just to see what they can do, then it trivializes the contributions of the starting 5 and everyone else.

I hope to not see us rely at all on Walker or Giddens.

If we had a free roster spot for Bowen, one of the appeals would be that he would seem to be OK with not necessarily getting a lot of PT in the regular season. Younger guys, even if they’re buying into the whole team concept, are still going to want to be on the floor as much as they can, if for no other reason than to maximize their own value. I could easily see Bowen doing the quasi-Cassell role, not being on the active roster but maybe taking the kids under his wing, teaching them how to trip players up without the refs seeing, teaching them how to kick and push and grab and do all those dirty little things that can keep them in the league for fifteen year. That would be the value of having someone like Bowen around.

With Tony Allen still on the squad, we just don’t have the roster space for him. Too much redundancy, too many wings, not enough PGs.

I’ll pass

For reminding us about Grant Hill.

I mean jeez people, we don’t want Bowen cause he’s 38 but we were willing to take Grant Hill at 37? Please. Bowen at 38 is still better than the remaining SFs at whatever age in the 20s they are. It’s not like we’d be looking for him to play extensive minutes anyways.

Oh, and give the “dirty” talk a rest. He was a Celtic once upon a time anyways, and the current roster we have is considered “dirty” by everyone outside of Boston, just in case you forgot. If anything at this point, it’s another reason Bowen would “look good” in Green. Stick to the “old” talk and you won’t sound like Phil Jackson complaining about fouls and what not.

One can be tough on defense without popping opponents in the mouth, smacking them in the groin, or a half-dozen other things that can be categorized as dirty play. A really tough defensive player is probably taking more punishment than his opponent, although he’ll complain less about it.

Bruce Bowen is certainly a tough player… but at times he’s also been a dirty one.