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2009 Celticsblog Draft Finals: Portland CrotoNats vs. Toronto Raptors

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For those who don't have a clue about what the Celticsblog draft is, see here: (Celticsblog draft rules) and here: (Celticsblog draft picks).

After two long months of drafting, trades, debate, campaigning, more than a little drama, and voting, the finalists in the 2009 Celticsblog draft have emerged:  the Toronto Raptors (managed by Rondo2287) and the Portland CrotoNats (managed by Edgar, and assisted by yours truly).  To determine the winner, any registered member of the forums may cast a vote in the dedicated voting thread, linked here

Remember:  Voting ends Wednesday at midnight, so VOTE NOW!

Introduction of the Finalists and statements from the participating GMs, below the fold:

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Introducing the Finalists:

Toronto Raptors

GM:  Rondo2287
Press conference / introduction to team:  Link
Path to the Finals:  #3 seed in the East.  Defeated New Jersey Nets (bdm860), Chicago Bulls (johnnyrondo), Philadelphia 76ers (Kwit10)

Roster: C: Marcus Camby / Zydrunas Ilgauskas            
               PF: Kevin Garnett / Hakim Warrick / Taylor Griffin
               SF: Ron Artest / Michael Finley
               SG: Francisco Garcia / Marco Belinelli
               PG: Andre Miller / J.J. Barea / Eric Maynor

Portland CrotoNats
GM:  Edgar
Press conference / introduction to the team: Link
Path to the Finals: #2 seed in the West.  Defeated Golden State Warriors (Evantime34), Houston Rockets (The Walker Wiggle), Buffalo Braves (RebusRankin)

Roster:  C: Shaquille O'Neal / Brad Miller
                PF: Jermaine O'Neal / Ronny Turiaf / Taj Gibson
                SF: Rashard Lewis / Ryan Gomes / Quinton Ross / Jared Dudley
                SG: Michael Redd / Manu Ginobili / Fred Jones
                PG: Mike Bibby / Delonte West / Jrue Holiday

Statement from the Toronto Raptors:

First I would like to thank everybody that put up with the Toronto Raptors throughout the CB Draft.  Secondly I would like to congratulate both Philly and Portland for a great series in the ECF and looking forward to a great series in the Finals.

In the Finals a few changes will be made to Torontos Starting Lineup.  We will be running out a lineup that looks like

Big Z
Kevin Garnett
Ron Artest
Michael Finley
Andre Miller

We are moving Big Z into the starting lineup because during the series we will always have Z on Shaq.  They play eachother evenly on the stat sheet over recent memory, and we like Z's bigger body to cover the huge Shaq as well as Z's ability to space the floor and draw shaq away from the basket on defense.

Finally although we in Toronto love Francisco Garcia, we are going with Finley and his experience here in the finals.  After coming off the bench Finley will be rested and ready to give us one more great series.  We feel that with Finley's age being a factor and Redd's Knee being a factor they will both be slowed from what we are used to but should be able to compete against each other.

The other matchups we will get into later on in the weekend but see this as an exciting final series to this game and as always, Go Raptors!


 Statement from the Portland CrotoNats:

Two words:  Vote Delonte!  Seriously, though, thank you to Donoghus (aka, The Commish) and everybody else who made this entire draft experience a lot of fun.  We look forward to a great series with Toronto.

We know it's going to be hard to get votes on Celticsblog for any team opposing KG in the Finals.  We all know what #5 can do.  However, we think we have the pieces to slow KG down, and we're confident that we can win this series.

First, the CrotoNats are slightly changing their starting lineup, and are going with Rashard Lewis at PF, with Michael Redd moving to SF and Manu Ginobili taking over at SG.  Why?  Because Rashard gives KG fits.  In the last seven meetings between the two players, Rashard has averaged 23.6 points per game, as opposed to 14.9 for Garnett; only once in those games has KG outscored Rashard, and Rashard has scored 30+ points twice.  Garnett is the better player, but maybe no other player in the league is as hard for him to handle as Rashard Lewis. 

We can't go into every matchup in detail, but it should be clear that Shaq vs. Big Z and Manu vs. Finley are big advantages for Portland, while Redd vs. Artest and Bibby vs. Miller are, at worst, a wash.  Also, bringing quality players like Jermaine O'Neal, Delonte West, Brad Miller, and Ryan Gomes off the bench is just too much for Toronto to handle.  Also, of course, five of Toronto's top six players are 33 years old or older; the youngest player in the proposed starting lineup will be 30 in November.  Rondo2287 has put together a good team, but he can't compete over the course of a seven game series.  Lastly, remember:  Vote Delonte!  He's Edgar's boy!


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To comment on the matchups, go here. Both teams will be posting further thoughts on the series.

All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino

by Roy_Hobbs on Aug 24, 2009 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Delonte's my boy!

So I vote for my Little Girl Edgar……NO CAPS!!! Hola Amigo…..

Is it Soup Yet?

by Master Po on Aug 24, 2009 12:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Haha.

Just make sure your vote counts, Po, by posting it in the forums.

http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=31379.msg569334

All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino

by Roy_Hobbs on Aug 24, 2009 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, for anybody who still hasn't figured out the forums yet...

You can register for them here: Link.

After registering, you can log-in and browse them here: http://forums.celticsblog.com

All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino

by Roy_Hobbs on Aug 24, 2009 12:21 AM EDT reply actions  

yawn

"....you can't handle The Truth"

by kheeko on Aug 24, 2009 12:36 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm sorry we're boring you. ;-)

But, some statistics on this year’s draft:

826 pages of discussion
12,152 replies
91,957 views

So, somebody is interested.

All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino

by Roy_Hobbs on Aug 24, 2009 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Front Page Love

For the Fake Celticsblog Draft? Come on…Who cares about two long months of earth shattering trades, intricate and multi-layered team building philosphy and endless debate about players strengths and weaknesses from the best basketball nerds on the web? I mean who cares about this? I know I don’t. I know, I put in like 2000 posts, 5000 PMs and 300,000 words into showing the (unappreciative) world just how good and underrated the Fake Phoenix Suns are, but really, who cares?

Sure, the draft had drama knee deep, conspiracy theories, and one actual fist fight that was put on youtube, but who cares? (one of those things was a lie)

America cares, that’s who. Vote in the finals, or the terrorists win.

Reporter: About a year ago I asked about the Celtics-Lakers thing and you said you'd really only seen it on TV. Now you've been through it, can you talk about playing the Boston Celtics for the NBA championship?
Kobe: It Sucks.

by Tom Bellinger on Aug 24, 2009 12:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Close to 100,000 views...

We must be doing something right.

All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino

by Roy_Hobbs on Aug 24, 2009 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Come on this is an epic match-up. Sure it would have been better with Buffalo in the Finals but our bench did us in (curse you Linas Kleiza). Of course, people would have wondered why Buffalo was in the finals.

by RebusRankin on Aug 24, 2009 12:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Just like people wondering what the heck a "CrotoNat" is . . .

All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino

by Roy_Hobbs on Aug 24, 2009 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Both teams suck

by LarBrd33 on Aug 24, 2009 11:43 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Well, they certainly do compared to the team you had at the end of Year One

All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino

by Roy_Hobbs on Aug 24, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would have gotten both starting 5’s for my 3rd round pick and some tommy points.

by LarBrd33 on Aug 25, 2009 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hahahaha WHAT?! i thought i was a basketball nerd because i was watching old games on NBA TV!! Wow, this is funny.

by Lasky21 on Aug 24, 2009 5:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Celticsblog: We're the nerdiest

All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino

by Roy_Hobbs on Aug 24, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

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