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Could Lester Hudson run the 2nd Unit?

So there's been a lot of discussion about the backup PG situation, and understandably so.  I thought  this would become a moot point 14 months ago when Mario Chalmers somehow fell all the way down to us in the 2008 draft, but Danny apparently saw something in JR Giddens that, well, I sure haven't.

So the result is that we don't yet have a clear-cut way to get Rondo the rest he's gonna need come playoff time.  With Rasheed, House, and Marquis in the second unit, we don't seem to need a backup PG who can score - just one who can run and distribute.  As the free agent supply gets thinner and thinner, it's worth asking whether Lester Hudson could be the next best option?  Has anyone actually seen this guy play?  I've read that he has a good shot - but could he penetrate and dish for 12 minutes a game, too?

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when that happened i prayed that danny wuld pick chalmers and when he didnt i knew he would regret it, and now he is mario became a very servicable nba player and we got a guy that hasnt played more than a few minutes in any game this season

by celtics94 on Aug 30, 2009 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

If anyone is going to be the backup for Rondo, it’s going to be Hudson. Danny has said he doesn’t want us getting any older, and there isn’t anyone desireable available in the free agent market. looking for someone young and cheep? Hudson is the one.

by KY Celts fan on Aug 30, 2009 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s possible Hudson can be up to the job by playoff time, but not now. I keep hearing people dream for Chalmers stop it, Doc would not have played him just like Walker and Giddens. By mid season Giddens will be better than Daniels

by tyquinton on Aug 30, 2009 11:56 PM EDT reply actions  

If Hudson's up for the job by the end of the year, that's a success.

And I think Danny might be intrigued by a Daniels/Hudson backcourt at some point, while he hopes that Walker will be able to step in at the 3.

by clover on Aug 31, 2009 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Giddens >> Daniels?

Chalmers not getting the chance to shine with Boston I MIGHT buy, even though BBD found playing time has a rookie. I’ll just leave that has a “you never know”.

Giddens being better than Daniels, though? You’re just insulting Daniels, unjustly at that.

by Tai on Aug 31, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

what makes you say this? becuase he had some dunks in the summer league?

by jesse_stoneham on Aug 31, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

That means Giddens would finally be better than someone. Right now, he is better than no one, though he is older than plenty of players.

There is also no reason to assume Chalmers would not have received minutes. Baby received minutes in his rookie season. Even Walker was given minutes, but failed in his minutes. Considering how underwhelming Walker was in his appearances, Giddens must have been pretty bad to be passed over (at age 24).

Giddens, sadly, wasn’t good enough to get minutes, even in our desperation at times. Daniels entered the league younger than Giddens, yet contributed more in the Playoffs for the Mavs as a rookie than Giddens did all last year! Hopefully Giddens can eventually contribute, but there is no reason yet to be optimistic.

by guava_wrench on Sep 1, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hudson is a strong, athletic street baller— there is a chance his game will fit the NBA, albeit a small one.
Personally I think anyone who believes Giddens will be better than Daniels “ever” either has not seen Daniels play or is Giddens’ cousin.

by feckless on Aug 31, 2009 1:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Daniels is certainly not top 10 in the nba, but he is a very decent player. I think we are really going to like him, way more than people realize. I think he is a huge bench upgrade, and will have more impact than anyone on the bench did last year. Not to mention that Sheed is on the bench as well.

by stevenfuzz on Aug 31, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

hudson i think has more value and potential than giddens. giddens cant shoot the ball at all period hes a bigger tony allen in my opinion, with no work ethic. walker and giddens are really playing for the same spot release giddens and sign hudson giddens to me has no value on this team at all

by celtics94 on Sep 16, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hudson can score, but can he pass?

The YouTube highlights of Lester Hudson show him scoring a ton, but I have yet to see a video of him passing. I think we’ll have plenty of scoring in the second unit, so I just want a guy who can get ‘Sheed, Marquis, Eddie, and BBD the ball. There’s rumblings about Carlos Arroyo coming to town, which would be fine, but if Hudson can pass just as well, I’d rather go with the younger guy. The big question is, then, can he pass? We don’t need another Eddie House masquerading as a PG and getting stuck when teams press full court.

by InTheFace on Aug 31, 2009 6:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Hudson At The Backup Point A Win/Win For C's

In the very little bit that I saw of him in Summer League action and clips from his time at Tennessee-Martin, I think adding Hudson for the final spot makes the most sense. Here’s why…

1- He Can Do It All. In college, as the best player on the team, his main function was to provide the scoring while keeping the opposing guard under wraps. The fact that he was the #2 scorer in the country (small team or not) proves that he did it quite well and his nearly 3 steals a game shows, at the very least, active hands. He also averaged just about five assists per game over two years and showed better than average court sense. So he’s at LEAST as good an option as House right now, and we haven’t even played a game yet!

2- He Knows How To Pass – Rondo is going to get the lion’s share of the minutes at point – period. Hudson will be playing with veterans when he runs the point. In the second unit, they just need someone to – as was previously stated – “bring it over half court without getting stripped” and give it to one of the many options he’ll have on the floor. The fact that he can put it in the hole is just icing. We only need 15 minutes from him…less depending on the situation. How much worse than House (as a point) or TA (as a point) can he be? He’ll be developing along the way and we can afford to let him learn in limited stretches as we go.

3 – Youth On An “Old” Team – If he turns out to be any good – and he definitely has the POTENTIAL to be good (think as good as Tim Hardaway with better “D” or no worse than Terrell Brandon) – he will be yet another young cog in a formerly great team easing into rebuilding mode after winning back-to-back 18th and 19th Championship trophies. Besides, we can always trade him as part of a package, right, Danny?

4- You’ll At Least Save Cash – And, you’ll be able to say goodbye to him if he can’t cut it here in just a couple of years (depending on what you sign him for). If you, say, re-sign Marbury (I admit…I still have feelings for the guy being a real threat here with a full training camp under his belt – even after he went all “Insane-adu” on the net) you’re definitely paying more than what a first-year player will require.

Now, I know what people are saying…if he can be any good, why did he slide all the way to #58…the answer is here:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?id=3252464

Once you’ve read about how messed up his academics were and the fact that he didn’t want to do the school thing…at all…(unless it meant coming in to play basketball and leaving), you can start to imagine all of the GM’s and colleges taking a pass for less financially troubled players.

I will go out on a limb here…I think Hudson can be a major steal for the team that gives him a real fighters chance to play basketball. Not just play the point, but play basketball with the kind of freedom that comes from not being labeled a “Pure PG” or an “SG” or an “SG in a PG’s body”. The final reason to give the kid a chance…you still have House and Daniels (and TA for that matter) to resume the role AND two expiring contracts (whoops! Sorry TA) to trade for an open roster space and cash to sign Marbury (or Lue, or name your free agent guard) in February, provided he stops smoking the green so he can start smoking FOR the green.

by PistolPedro on Sep 1, 2009 10:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm sold

Well argued. Thanks. I’ll sleep better once this guy is signed.

by InTheFace on Sep 2, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

I pray for it every day! That would be the happy end for the off season…

I asked god and he said: L.A. will lose again next year!! ^_°

by greenmech on Sep 15, 2009 4:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Completely Agree about Hudson...

Also, here are profiles for Curry and Hudson. I don’t see a glaring difference other than Davidson playing a few more top D1 teams, but still other than FT attempts for Curry they look pretty even considering Hudson was drafted almost dead last.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/gamelog?playerId=37439&year=2008
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/gamelog?playerId=32284

by StealthB on Sep 11, 2009 12:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Is Curry 25 years old?

by guava_wrench on Sep 11, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope

Eddie House + Marquis Daniels are better point guards than Lestor Hudson. They’ll be the 2nd + 3rd string point guards for the Celtics next season.

Hudson should be concerned a long shot just to make the roster … nevermind seeing court time.

by Who on Sep 14, 2009 7:31 AM EDT reply actions  

how can u say theyre better point guards than lester youve never seen him play a minute in an nba game ur just making stupid assumptions

by celtics94 on Sep 16, 2009 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

they might as well sign him and if its not working then they deactivate him send him to the d league and sign a vet pg if they have to

by celtics94 on Sep 16, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Give Hudson minutes and lets see what he can do

I always loved point guards that could also score, like Isiah Thomas, Joe Dumars etc.

If Hudson who we know can score can also dish the ball and bring the ball up under pressure that would be great.

There would be no defenses slacking off him as they do on Rondo.

Imagine a back court of Allen and Hudson on offense.. wow all teams would have to play them honest leaving them not able to double team Rasheed, Perk and Pierce which would allow them alot of easy scoring oppurtunaties.

So lets just give Hudson a bunch of minutes especially in training camp to see what he can do.

If he can do the job let him be our back up for the season.

If he can not cut it, then we can always go out and sign a veteran point guard.

by fordescort on Sep 24, 2009 9:52 AM EDT reply actions  

If Hudson can do the job great .................

Then great we have our point guard.

At the same time he will save the Celtics money also.

If he does not work out we can always pick up a point guard down the line as they are a dime a dozen in the NBA.

Can’t wait to see him on the court though to see what game he brings to the court as a Celtic.

by leothetiger on Sep 28, 2009 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

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