Baby Gets A Low Offer From C's

Well just because the Davis camp didn’t like it doesn’t mean it was “low”. Unless we have details, it can’t be characterized accurately..

Did he really think he was going to get the full MLE?

I would have simply said, come back with an offer sheet and we’ll take it from there.

I don’t recognize the name of Baby’s agent, but is he really helping his client? When Baby signed his original contract he purposely wanted it for two years so he could be a free agent. The Celtics obliged. Compare all this with when Perk signed his contract. A more than reasonable salary was agreed to fairly quickly by both parties. To me Perk is worth more than what he is getting now. Perk seemed to be looking for some security and I think he really wanted to play here. Baby immediately said he was out for the money. Baby has nothing to complain about, but he is setting up a bad situation of a disgruntled player. Maybe that is their tactic. He has shown constant improvement, but no long term success. At this point we can compare him to Blount, who had one good contract year and got overpaid, because there wasn’t much else on the market that was reasonable. Danny said at the start he would let the market determine Baby’s worth and that is exactly what happened.

I can’t imagine how Davis and his agent are thinking he’s doing himself any good by sending off dumbass tweets to a Boston Herald reporter. Part of the reason for having an agent is to keep the emotional player away from the media, and to avoid needless insults directed at the team’s management. It also doesn’t help to sound like a moron to the fans.

the market decides. big baby should be happy that he has two good knees and a legitimate offer.

hey baby – if you could play above the rim and did not have potential weight issues – you’d be offered more, either by the celtics or another team.

before the season finish he was asked about his future and he said “it’s a business”

well he can call himself unfortunate under this economy and teams are not willing ot pay him what he is looking for… and the celtics is only taking care of its business…

its a business big baby… no need to be frustrated

Stop being a big baby, making little baby tweets on baby twitter and complaining like a big baby about your Big Baby offer and Be a MAN!!! Like when you pushed that baby kid out of the way after your big baby buzzer beater. “I’m just playing Celtics basketball, Doc knows I can play this game, everybody knows I can play this game” Sign the contract and win your multiple titles. Baby’s career is similiar to Bill Russell’s right now. Title in 1st year, missed in 2nd and then ran off 8 straight like the C’s are about to do!!

He’s really a “Big Baby” after all.

Big Baby should ask to meet with Doc and Danny together or separately and discuss this without his agent present. He will get his best advice from there. Baby should let his feelings be known privately as should Doc and Danny. Doc and Danny have the reputation of being honest and straight forward and Baby should understand this. Then let Baby decide what he wants to do. The Celtics have seemed to have made a decision. They want Baby back at a certain price and probably length of contract. I’m sure there is wiggle room here. Baby really has no choices. I don’t even know if he can go to Europe having been given a qualifying offer. There’s really not much to do except to mend some fences (if any have actually been broken) and move on to a solid career for Glen Davis. I say “solid”. Davis will never be a “franchise” player.

Get over it BBD and sign the contract, crying and pouting will not get more money.

I love him but he did say “its business”. If he was getting offered 6- 8 million from other teams he would be spouting his " its business" song over and over, smilling and happy to leave town.

So he is learning the hard way, it truly is a business.

When he calms down and signs the contract, no one’s going to care anything about what he said during the negotiations. With other guys, we might be recalling the remarks for years. But with him, it’ll be dismissed as Baby just being Baby. So he’s got that goin’ for him. Which is nice.

-For letting BBD shot himself in the foot. Those tweets look like a 2nd grader wrote them.
-for not helping to facilitate a sign and trade. It was obvious that that was how he could get the most money AND playing time to better his future value.
-for claiming all of this interest in BBD when in reality Danny openly called his bluff.
-for not talking to his client about keeping quiet during the process.

size we need length(height) at the PF positions, not just scorers off the bench. if he was 7’ feet he could get the MLE from some tean thus a sign and trade option for the Celtics He is a Corless Wiliams type player. PF are tall and quick now a days thus Davis is on the wrong side of the trend

Even if he returns, he won’t be a happy camper. Why bother?

but he probably will only sign for 1 year. if he was smart and his agen had been smart they would have took into acount of the 2010 free agent class. ihave noticed that a lot of players that wanted to get paid this year didn’t examples former laker ariza, carlos boozer (though he signed is option in utah). next year their will be a lot more money (msaybe not as much as teams originally thought because of the economy) next year will definetly be a better offseason or free agents. look for been to either sign the origanl offer sheet of 1 year.

As talented as the guy is, he’s not gonna be happy, Some players play well with chips on their shoulders, Davis is not that type, he thrives positive reinforcement, “rah-rah-rah”, “you can do it”. He’s good. He’s probably worth more than the offer, but not for this team. I miss Leon Powe.

http://twitter.com/bigbabybball/following <—- Interesting list….

BBD is in a tough spot. The C’s can match anything he gets offered and the jury is still out is last year was really a breakout or just the case of a guy playing above his capabilities….

BBD needs to focus on his game, play out this year at whatever terms and then see where’s he at next year. This year he has no leverage…

they sign sheldon, with a vet minimum, and are now ready to make Baby an offer. With Sheldon on board, Baby clearly does not have the Celts over a barrel. With Scal, you already have 5 bigs. Frankly I almost think Frazicas is better than Baby.

I haven’t read the tweets but I’m sure you are all right that he sounds immature. But 1. he’s a young guy who got minutes in year 1 from a coach who doesn’t go young much. 2. He came back in year 2 with an improved jump shot. 3. He showed that even lacking height he could body play well against Duncan and other good low post players. I could care less about his rebounding per vs Mark Blount. That is an insult to Big Baby.

Here’s a flat out rule of business that has been drilled into me over the years….It is much better to hold onto a customer than to try and win them back. Same with NBA talent. If someone offered him the MLE, I’d match it. I agree with everyone that he’s not worth that but you don’t let talent go. Losing Big Baby, age 23, and signing Joe Smith, for ex, is not smart.

It has made for interesting blog comments but the fact is Blount was selling in a seller’s market and Big baby is selling into a buyer’s market. I’d vote for 4 years $12 mil.

i hope we keep baby. he’s got his upside and his downside but he knows our system and he fits in with his play. he also hustles. not enough is being said about his smarts and passing ability.

   He sets a HUGE pick!

   He can guard HUGE opposing centers – EG: Howard, Shaq etc.

   If left alone, he can hit a mid-range shot (and supposedly has worked on extending his range this summer).

  He can’t rebound. He can’t defend a quick or tall forward. EG: Orlando’s R Lewis ate him alive in the playoffs. He is prone to making ill-advised fouls. He can’t get a shot off when he is right under the basket if any of the opposing bigs are guarding him.

I’d keep him because of him being able to guard the big guys. Name how many other guys can do that?

Baby has the skills of a solid all around Forward coming off the bench. His offensive touch is above average. Holding him back will be the weight issue and what he gives up in height.

2.5 for 2 years is a huge raise and a fair deal in this economy.

Baby should get permission to talk to another team about a sign and trade. Let that team determine a salary and then see what Danny will want. In other words, let Baby do the work to initiate a sign and trade. Maybe that way he’ll see that he has a good deal here, whatever it is. Baby should realize he has no choices left and it seems we will have a disgruntled player on our hands. Danny has been good about this sort of thing and might be able to get draft picks in return, at a minimum.

First off, I like BBD…as the season went on I liked him even more…I don’t this twitter crap though!

He just isn’t the typical PF who can play the inside game, and more importantly above the rim! I don’t know how many times last year, I couldn’t beleive he didn’t flush it, and instead missed or got blocked.
A PF needs to be rebounder, and able to play D on the “new age” PF with quickness (like Lewis). I question if he can cover Shaq, as Dipper mentioned mainly due to hieght, but agree with his body, he’s valuable against some bigs….He really needs to work on foot speed more than anything at this point…

Having said that, he proved he can be a force and would be a valuble piece off the bench this year. He forces the defender to cover his mid range shot (except when he hit the buzzer beater against the Magic) which opens it up for the bigs, or for the slashers.

Going foward I’m also not sure he should/can be a starter but could make a living be a 6th man for a long time…any comments?

I think 3 million a year is fair…but if you look at what TA and Scal are making…is 3 enough?

I don’t think Mr. Davis is pouting. I think his agent is. They are starting the dance. Everything will be fine by October. And that is why people have agents.

Bottom line is – most of that additional money goes to his agent and taxes.

If I’m Danny, the years are almost as important as the per-year figure. A 3 year/$12M deal – I think they match, but 4yrs/$16M, he lets him walk. Shorter contracts = more flexibility, which we all know Danny prizes. BBD seems to be the kind of guy who’s going to perform best in a contract year, anyway.